Defense Motion To Ban George Bush's Name At Trial Of Anti-War Protester Defeated
Apparently President George W. Bush is now so unpopular that some lawyers believe the mere mention of his name in front of a jury could tip the scales against them.
Attorneys Michael P. Laffey and Robert P. DiDomenicis of Holsten & Associates in Media, Pa., are defending Upper Darby Township, Pa., in a civil rights suit brought by Harold Lischner, an 82-year-old doctor who claims he was falsely arrested for displaying an anti-war sign at a Bush campaign event in September 2003.
With the case set to go to trial on July 23, the defense lawyers recently filed a flurry of motions, including one that asked Eastern District of Pennsylvania Judge Gene E.K. Pratter to prohibit the plaintiff from mentioning Bush's name. Read more...
It's a sign of the times. You can read the particulars (PDF) here.
So what, big deal, Bush is unpopular. Of course he is. So why oh why will not the Democrat Congress do the one effective thing that it can do right now WHICH IS SIMPLY DEFUND THE WAR IN IRAQ AND THERE IS NOTHING FOR THE PRESIDENT TO VETO.
frist! (maybe)
I hope they say George W. Bush Republican candidate for president as often as possible during the trial.
Maybe the republicans should go back and read our constitution the whole country is a free speech zone dumbasses
I am afraid that I have to agree with the attorneys at this point. Hearing the name of George Bush, seeing his face, hearing his voice and anything to do with is corrupt fascists administration makes me slightly physically ill. So if I was on the jury I would want to rule for the plaintiff just by hearing his name.
Well, hope to goodness hell doesn't freeze over, but imagine if the guy lost!!! This is basically a trial of the people V a precedent that could take us that much closer to a poice state. THis is Fascism people, THIS IS NOT AMERICA!!!!!!
I'd rather go to trial defending OJ than Bush.
Johnnie Cochran invoked Hitler's memory at the OJ trial and this guy's gonna drop the Bush bomb!
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Well the Republican talking heads still seem to be happy enought to associate themselves with his name. More selective applications of our Constitution here at work? I wonder what Philadelphia conservative talk-radio dickhead Michael Smerconish will have to say about this one? What a bunch of lying, manipulative, facist, hypocrites.
Arrested for having a contrary opinion. Isn't that cute. I would say invoking hitler in this case would be more appropriate than bringing up the chimp.
The motion in Lischner v. Upper Darby Township said that according to the latest Newsweek poll, Bush has "the worst approval rating of an American president in a generation," and that 62 percent of Americans believe that Bush's handling of the war in Iraq shows that he is "stubborn and unwilling to admit his mistakes."
Bush's identity, they argued, "in and of itself, presents the danger that the jury will favor plaintiff."
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Pretty good.
I saw it through the grapevine . . . . . .
“This is such a lovely place to work. Packs of sweating and desperate Republican Congressmen coming in and out, trying to talk to Bush and get him to at least make some kind of promise (of course never to be kept) about withdrawing or at least to stop snarling at people. Pointless. Bush is constantly in a rage here and yesterday, I had to deliver something to the West Wing. After I had dropped of my files and was heading back to my office, someone opened a door and I could hear, very clearly, Our Beloved President screaming with rage. He said, and I quote: “Goddamit! I said to quit bugging me about Iraq! I will never withdraw a single man from there and when I leave here for good, my successor can handle it.”
This case mirrors countless others where people have been arrested or mugged by the police for wearing or displaying anti-Bush/Cheney materials when those 2 criminals come to town. It also focuses on the unConstitutionality of "Free Speech Zones" (funny, I don't recall anything in the constitution about either free speech or the freedom of assembly being dependent upon government approved location).
L.A. Confidential @ 11:
Another suprise! ;)
Congress defund the WAR, DO YOUR JOB. Look this CRIMINAL is so unpopular that they do not even want his name mentioned in court because it will go against those that support this delusional CRIMINAL. Put IMPEACHMENT back on the table the GUTLESS SPINELESS right are just going to be OBSTRUCTIONIST about it this lets them SIGN THEIR OWN DEATH WARRANT DUH! Remember the RACIST NAZIS COMMITTEE (RNC) has NO BACKBONE just lip service and lots of saliva (terrible on the zippers tho). CONGRESS DO YOUR JOB.
I have to agree with the defense team's claim that the mere mention of GW's name is prejudicial, but their side is in the wrong in the first place, and the case should go to the plaintiff. If they can't overcome something like that, then what kind of legal team did the Township hire?
You know you're a failure as a President when the mere mention of your name throws the case.
tjb @ 3:
Well, that may backfire. They might find some more shit to change to fit their needs.
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Keeping his name from being spoken is a fair request since there is proof that saying it is like a curse that conjures up evil demons.
Bush Bites @ 6:
Isn't that the truth?
Navy Vet @ 15:
It's not necessarily a matter of the legal defense bein' bad, NV. The policies and actions of the township seem, to me, pretty indefensible. The lawyers are simply clutchin' at straws because they have no other options.
bill w @ 13:
Has he started on the amphetamine (spelling) already?
He whose name cannot be spoken. It is Yahweh.
What's next, no graven images?
Fucking demi-god criminal.
IMPEACH NOW!
Defense Motion To Ban George Bush’s Name At Trial Of Anti-War Protester Defeated
Apparently George W. Bush is now so unpopular that some lawyers believe the mere mention of his name in front of a jury could tip the scales against them. Harold Lischner, an 82-year-old doctor, brought a civil rights suit charging that he was falsely ...
♠ BUSH ♠...The New Four Letter Word of this Century.
Bush Bites @ 6:
Yep, I'd love to see Bush in a long L.A. style Bronco ride down the roadway.
What's the defense's position on the use of 'Asshole President'?
Peptic Skeptic @ 23:
Haha, I like where you're going with that. If someone slams their finger in a door they could scream "BUSH". If someone is insulted they can retort "Yeah, well Bush you, buddy". If a lady is lustful she could request "Bush me right here on this table".
Eamon @ 26:
So, then we would be saying, "Bush Bush!" :)
And SNAFU would become SNABU!
The fact that this went to trial is very scary. Wait until this regime starts freezing our bank accounts and our assets because they suspect us of being a destabilizer of Iraq. Everything this regime does is a step towards dictatorship.
Targa @ 28:
BUBAR (Bushed Up Beyond All Recognition)
hehe, I like this game.
For god's sake don't make Bush try on the glove!
Hell, if mentioning Bush's name could help Harold's case then mention Cheney's and its a slam dunk!
That picture says it all. Clueless beady-eyed Chimp praying to the lord (presumably asking forgiveness or all the death and destruction he has brought into this world)
Eamon @ 26:
Eamon, I agreed with you right up until 'The Bush me right here' comment. The thought of Bush and any positive sexual connotation...oh ick, just ick. I'm puckering and clinching as I type. Blah. Heeeerk. Oooooooooooooo.
Stirfry at #16 is spot on.
How is it possible that people are herded into Free Speech Zones in this country? How is it possible that this case could go to court in this country? How is it possible that this man would even have been arrested in this country?
Oh, wait a minute...Sorry, I was caught in a time warp and went back to when we had a Constitution to which we paid some attention.
Strawberry @ 33:
Agreed.....
And still LMAO at your comment.
Now that would probably be the best way, ever, to promote abstinence, eh?
Ruthless People @ 33:
He's probably praying not to get caught for sticking his finger in the icing. He can't ask forgiveness for something he doesn't think is wrong.
That's a great idea Wayne, to prevent AIDS instead of giving people condoms, let's just slip them a picture of a naked Bush with an erection....OK, now that I've mentally and emotionally scarred myself, I'm going to seek some professional help.
CafeenMan @ 37:
In that case I guess I can assume Bush isn't praying for forgiveness for calling himself a Christian as he works towards destroying God's planet by backing out of Kyoto and turning the Earth over to big polluters.
Ruthless People @ 39:
I'm sure it wouldn't even occur to him.
Hahahahahaaaaa,
that´s the best joke I´ve heard during my entire life.
Those lawyers are really desperate. In an absolutely indefendable case but willing to earn a truckload of money
"Taken together, they argued, the defense motions were asking the court "to preclude testimony on all of the important facts in this case and apparently envisions a presentation during Dr. Lischner's case limited to testimony that Dr. Lischner was displaying an unspecified sign in opposition to an unspecified political candidate."
I hope this will badly hurt their reputation as lawyers. I mean they could just have told their clients to give up fighting because there is nothing to fight.
Talking about greed ....
Strawberry @ 38:
Surely the picture of a naked Bush with an election would fuck your head even more...oh wait, too late.
You're screwed.
Wayne @ 36:
The BETTER way to promote abstinence...
Make your partner wear a mask of Cheney.
umm, sorry, should read "indefensible case"
Not to mention this is pointless. How many of the Doctor's peers on his jury are going to be so ignorant of recent events to not know who the fuck was in town that day? Are they going to obfuscate the date too? Were there sooo many candidates blowing through the Upper Darby Township on the day of the arrest that the jury can't figure it out? The only this will accomplish is the defense convincing the jury that the attorneys think they are stupid.
Eamon @ 27:LOL! I like it too. Someone pisses you off: "Kiss my Bush" Someone has BO: "You stink. Go clean your Bush"
Sounds as if the judge ruled on the side of reason, favouring plaintiffs claim that both Bush and plaintiff's respectful sign are admissible in the proceedings. The good Doctor should be grateful he is not a high school student, however.
Peptic Skeptic @ 24:
I like that. Language is a very organic thing, with new words being created all of the time. What would "Bush" mean? Maybe it could grow from another use "Bush League" which I think means amateur. Perhaps we could expand it to mean amateur evil.
That was really Bush. Why did you set fire to that rabbit?
Anyone have a better definition of the 21st centuries newest obscenity?
Bush........random cruelty
Bush........??????????????
Bush Bites @ 10:
It certainly doesn't get must better than that.
"Apparently President George W. Bush is now so unpopular that some lawyers believe the mere mention of his name in front of a jury could tip the scales against them."
Ya know where else the President's name has ALREADY been banned? GOP candidate campaigns! And for the exact same reason as above. The mere mention of Bush's name will make many Republicans put their vote elsewhere.
Like the moron judge that won't allow the word 'Rape' or the the phrase 'Sexual assault' at a RAPE trial...
http://www.ketv.com/news/13650680/detail.html
These guys must have thought in light of that stunning [activist judge's] decision, they'd have no problem getting 'George Bush' excluded from their war protester's
presecutiontrialThe name 'George Bush'-legally linguistically on a par with the word 'Rape'...in the prosecutor's teeny tiny mind.
me-oww!
RayC @ 4:
Ditto. Revulsion is the word.
Arresting a man in his 80s for exercising his free speech. Pretty fucking sad. Tax dollars hard at work.
Welcome to your countries "Darkest Hour" Where you may start world war three and may your god have mercy on your country cause all the goddless masses who care about each other and the planet just can't give a shit anymore.
When they went in on this pice of SH*T and did the removal were they able to see any of his brains.WOW! Thanks guys and Gals I thought I was the ONLY ONE that literally sick at the sight sound of the TALKING MONKEY and his GUTLESS,SPINELESS,COWARD and TRAITOR VP. I mean sick to the point of throwing up. Thanks for assureing me I am not loseing my mind.
Bush is the "Kiss of Death".
One evidently forgets that ALL lawyers are certified by the Bar and The Bar is ran by the government. So in reality all lawyers, are compromised, because they can be Disbarred by the Bar. So if the bar just so happened to send a 'confidential' letter to all lawyers saying not to mention so and so in any court case,,,, and that if they do, or disclose what is in the 'confidential' letter they may be disbarred and face legal action, they may just not do such a thing and in fact use a court case to set precedent in such a matter to stop further such things from ever happening.
Law is a weird and manipulative thing.
Many people do not know it but all cases since about the 1920 or 30s fall under the uniform commercial code and all court cases are, believe it or not about commerce, and in fact many conspiracy theories abound about why court law prior to 20s or 30s may not be sited in or as case law. Others say The Uniform Commercial Code started as a secret treaty made in 1930 which put the United States and other countries around the world in "bankruptcy" with the "international bankers" being the "creditor/rulers", who prefer commercial law to common law. An alternate theory, claims that the Uniform Commercial Code and NOT the constitution is now "actually the supreme law of the land".
It's all real fascinating and I recommend the study of the beginnings of the U.C.C. to any who have the time to study such things.
But the thing to remember is that if we chained and threw all the dirty lawyers in the ocean, the sea level would probably rise three feet.
Peanut,
My goodness peanut, you sure don't think much of lawyers. As one, I can assure you that we do not get 'confidential letters from
the bar' giving us 'orders'.
Believe me, if such a thing happened, most lawyers I know would be howling...in public... loud and long. But, then
that's just what my 'orders' tell me to say in public as part of the grand conspiracy we have going to undermine
all that is bright and good.
-Mr Dave.
Mr. Dave @ 58:
It's amazing what one can learn on teh internets, isn't it, Mr Dave?
:lol:
What kind of country is that ?
... so even lawyers are using pre-emptive strikes now ?
Sounds like the defense wanted to defend themselves, without that pesky, biased thing called "context."
Sounds a lot like people who want to discuss how we "go forward" with Iraq, without any mention of how we got there and who got us there.
What's the point of being at all rational if you're going to ignore or gloss over all of the relevant facts and arguments?
Before ya know it you won't be able to use terms of endearment like:chimp,chimpy,village idiot,dumya,bushevik,dunce because they all refer to the idiot in the WH.Anyone care to add to the list?I'm sure i've missed some beauties that my beloved american public has come up with.Call your reps daily and do not stop until this idiot is impeached.
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