House Judiciary Committee To Vote Wednesday On Charging Miers & Bolten With Contempt
AP Via Yahoo:
House Democrats on Monday targeted two of President Bush's longtime aides for criminal contempt citations, escalating a legal fight over executive privilege and access to White House deliberations on the firings of federal prosecutors.
Rep. John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said his panel would vote Wednesday on citing White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former Counsel Harriet Miers for contempt of Congress.
"It is still my hope that they will reconsider this hard-line position and cooperate with our investigation so that we can get to the bottom of this matter," Conyers, D-Mich., said in a statement after being told again by their attorneys that Bolten and Miers would not comply with the committee's subpoenas.
The administration showed no signs of budging from its position that the president's current and former advisers are immune from congressional subpoenas and that any White House documents related to the dismissals are protected by executive privilege. Read more...
First!
frist
Capt. Bat Guano @ 2:
Doh!
Capt. Bat Guano @ 3:
MWU-HAHAHAHAHAAAA!
How in the hell did this frist/first thing get started anyway?
harriet miers resembles the emperor from star wars
Blue Buddha @ 4:
Touche Blue Buddha!
Harriett more is like the commander in the first star wars who gets blown up in the death star.
Will be interesting to see what happens with this.
Whaa....Whaa.... What happened to monday??? I thought the line in the sand was today???? And so... what will the story be on wednesday??? I've said it a hundred different ways already.. IF congress is really serious about this shit and not just doing a song and dance for the purpose of blowing smoke up everyones ass, then just like the nike commercial says.. 'just do it'!!! Stop pussyfooting around with this administration... They sure as hell aren't going to willingly spill their guts... Christ on a crutch... This shit is sooooo friggin old... Get a clue congress.....JD
Hail To The Chimp @ 8:
Grandoff Tarkin.
"You may fire when ready..."
Capt. Bat Guano @ 5:
Its pretty petty.
YES, CONTEMPT charges are just fine. What else can you do, "representatives"?
Congress needs to WAKE UP before it's too late.
Two words: "Inherent contempt."
"I'd like to introduce you to the first of my zombie soldiers that we're going to send into Iran ... Iraq! Iraq! As you can see, she's gonna do a heck of a job ..."
The House should show chimpy that the House and the presidency are equal. chimpy is exactly why this is in the constitution, for nutbags like him.
I think I hear a frog...ribit! Time for the frog march.
BTW if chimpy uses the military to block these orders, maybe then repugs will know he's another hitler.
"Grandoff"?
Grand Moff Tarkin
Blue Buddha @ 10:
Inherent Contempt is what they gotta use. Don't need the DoJ for that, can haul both of their sorry asses in and confine them in the basement until they agree to co-operate. Yes, they have holding cells (of some kind) in the Capitol basement. The Sergeant-at-arms can take the Capitol Cops and pick them up.
It's already too Late - the dems are in on it.
Occam's razor.
I for one am getting really tired of this and I hope Congress actually follows through this time. Lock up Meirs and Bolton if found guilty of contempt and then go after the others. I am not going to hold my breath though. If the Republicans had any loyalty to America they would stand by Conyers and stand up to this administration. This Administration continues to make a mockery of the whole legal process and they do not even bat an eye.
"The administration showed no signs of budging..."
F*** that. Time's up. Time for consequences.
Toss her in the hoosegow. Congress needs to use their inherent power and stop depending on a reluctant Attorney General. If they don't have a cell anymore, they can lock her in the bathroom.
Okay, this time in the style of David Milch:
It's not this talk of contempt which sets the mind to fucking wonderment, but rather the gap, widening as it seems, between the bravery of our words and the determination of our actions.
To wit: contempt, so being found, demands swift, resolute, response, lest the contempt stand monument to its own historical inevitability.
Should justice today be meted for crimes long past, who profits? Concordantly, what profit lies in extending the writ of time across these acts, save exempting those extenders from the potential rebuke of history?
Ah, but there's the rub, for justice denied invites rebuke in greater measure than overzealousness, zeal being more forgivable to the eyes of posterity than inaction in the face of threat.
Hence our erstwhile "leaders" zeal for his various foreign misadventures and the great public support it enjoyed in the none-to-distant past.
Who can doubt that had his campaign borne the promised fruit, that this trifle, but one upon a heap of trifles, would to the wind like so much ticker tape in the victory parade?
Who can doubt that it was not his ZEAL but his fucking Guinness-worthy lack of foresight that has brought him low?
Which leaves us, not so lacking in the gifts of reason, to wonder...what stays OUR hand at this crucial hour?
Marc @ 13:
You beat me to it.
What classified information can the Bush administration be hidiing. Is this worse than white water or monica. Its gotta be something big thats for sure. Probably would take down the whole republican party.
Conyers will go to prison before Miers.
OK @ 20:
No sh*t. Enough already.
You want the truth? Is Congress serious?
Inherent contempt.
On with it!
Necadawg @ 24:
At the very least, Bush has implemented non-constitutional monorchical powers - no one questions or calls a king to account.
Good god she's one scary lookin bitch.
Enough. Call out the Sargeant at Arms and drag the wicked witch of the south and the flying monkey in by their ankles.
Hey, while we are at it, didn't Condosleaza Rice ignore a subpoena? Wha happened to HER? (Nothing)
Given that Conyers is a democrat, if he ignored a subpoena from Gonzales he would go to prison. Given that Conyers is black, he would go to prison with stitches in his head.
BUT!!!! Will they follow through? We've heard time and time and time and time and time again these tough words and in the end, they backed down. Will they have the balls this time?
Something tells me they wont.
Why don't the Democrats do everyone a favor and just roll over and play dead already?
How much more of this teasing are we going to have to take while this Administration just gets away with everything?
The Dems are useless as tit on a nun.
> The Dems are useless as tit on a nun.
More useless than that. You can tittyfuck a nun all day long and she'll walk away a virgin.
Greg @ 33:
If they won't, then We The People MUST. Does anyone remember what happened in the French Revolution to the despotic royals?
andrew @ 36:
You're right its time for a REVOLUTION !!!!
Diallo @ 37:
You'll have to fight Blackwater.
> You’re right its time for a REVOLUTION !!!!
With what specific agenda? Overthrow the constitution and replace it with...the constitution?
You don't rewrite city building codes because your contractors are all cowards and morons...you fire the cowards and morons.
JasonS @ 39:
You can't. They are all bought and paid for.
JasonS @ 35:
Pics or it didn't happen.
Marc @ 12:
it's too late.
anon @ 25:
Yes, probably. That is usually the reaction DICTATORS have to people who oppose them.
If we live to see another election in this country and a democrat wins, the republicans will rue the day they did not push back on Bush's power grab. In effect it means that the next president will have unchecked powers... Thanks Republicans for destroying our democratic republic.
CIU @ 43:
The Republicans will rue nothing. They will stop any Democratic president in his/her tracks in a heartbeat no matter what they have to do.
nyhmr @ 38:
the fact that the justice department will not do their jobs should tell us pretty clearly that they have been corrupted.
I hope the military has some sense of honor and will not allow a dicatorship in the USA... but I imagine it will take more than honor to save our democtratic republic now...
Raise Hands, please...
How many of you would like bush to look at you the way he's looking at Miers?
nyhmr @ 44:
that is why I said "If"...
we may be too far gone. DICKtator Cheney and his little Chimp-Boy have done what no other tyrants have succeded in doing for over 200 years. Goddamn Bush to Hell!
> it’s too late.
Too true. Bush is not the real threat. It's what some truly genocidal Coultergeist will do with the authority he's established that will bring us down.
If we let this precedent stand, a decade from now US attorney firings, Guantanamo, Iraq, FEMA and all the rest will seem as quaint and old-worldy as teapot dome, hemlines above the knee and Watergate seem today.
And it's time for this to stop being a liberal-vs-conservative issue. I like to ask my red-leaning friends if they will be comfortable knowing that President Hillary is standing behind the curtains that Dubya is hanging in the Oval Office.
Whatever happened to the right-wing demand for governmental transparency and accountability when Janet Reno got trigger happy?
Now imagine that Bill Clinton had declared the families in Ruby Ridge and Waco to be "enemy combatants" and any request by congress to review those disasterous operations as potentially treasonous breaches of executive privilege?
Fuck red and blue...it's time for a purple alliance. Conservatives believed that their "permanent Republican majority" would spare them the nightmare of a LIBERAL congress and president acting the way their people act.
With that dream in tatters, what recourse have we but to agree on truly fair and balanced standards.
Fair meaning all held to the same standard under the law...not investing all arguments with equal claim to veracity.
Balanced meaning lending weight to argument in proportion to its merits...not giving equal time to every crackpot.
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Sun Tzu said something about the best way to defeat an enemy is from within. Osama Bin Ladin must be laughing his ass off in a cave somewhere.
Bush had an approval rating of what? High 80's or 90's after 9/11? I was in the 10 percent who thought the "Running Man" was a punk.
Liberal AND Proud @ 30:
Please! She is from Texas, a WESTERN state. Don't blame the south for her.
JasonS @ 48:
Perhaps republicans take solace in the fact that "their side" won all the power.... I mean, that isthe name of the game isn't it? You don't think they actually believe in democracy and freedom do you?
Diallo @ 37:
We're going STREAKING!!!!!!!!!!!
Just forget it and impeach! indict! imprison!
I have come to the conclusion that Ms. Pelosi is right. Impeachment should be off the table. It is my opinion that the purpose of NSPD 51/HSPD-20 aka National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directve is to be a 'shot accross the bow', to warn Congress of the consequences of initiating impeachment proceedings. Congress has shown a total lack of ability to respond, let alone anticipate, the Administrations stonewalling tactics and abject defiance of Constitutional laws, and I have no illusions that they would be able to do anything to counter the Administrations responses to thwart their iimpeachment efforts. Furthermore, it would be all the excuse the Administrtation would need to cancel the '08 elections and remain in power indefinitely.
Prosecute them when they are out of office. We have too much to lose, now.
...she has the perpetual look of a woman who fears her first day in prison. oh...and mr. leahy, you have my permission to sack the whole lot of them.
> You don’t think they actually believe in democracy and freedom do you?
Lost that illusion with my baby teeth, though some small ember of hope glows within me, Tinkerbell-like, that they may still possess an instinct for self-preservation.
The next government is very likely to be all-Democrat, all the time. No vetoes, no filibusters, just an opaque rubber stamp for the full "liberal agenda."
Gay marriage by executive fiat? Done.
Suspension of the 2nd amendment? Done.
Government-funded abortion on demand? Done.
Tax churches to fund national health care and preschool sex education? Done.
Come on, Johnny Red State, get on the bus! Much as the aforementioned policies appeal to me, I'd just as soon see them implement by the will of the PEOPLE.
JasonS at 48-- you're dead right. These political elitists take care of their own & don't care about us useless plebs except briefly (as a pretense) at election time when we get the choice between Evil (usually ReThug) and Lesser Evil. I just heard Harry Reid on the radio saying that they don't need to impeach BushCo 'coz he'll already go down in history as our worst President. So he can run wild for another 18 mths. w/ no restrictions!
I hate to agree w/ the odious little Chimp on anything, but as to this "history" argument it's true, in that long run, we'll all be dead! It'll be no consolation to us if the world recognizes BushCo-Cheney-KKKarl Rove as a 2nd Hitler 50 yrs. from now (which, obviously, they will), if we all die in Haliburton-KBR concentration camps in the interim.
Restore the rule of law! "Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable"-- JFK
What a lovely couple in the picture.Two people who are just folks with souls as black as sin
> I hate to agree w/ the odious little Chimp on anything, but as to this “history” argument it’s true, in that long run, we’ll all be dead!
Yeah, I'd be careful with the "history will judge him" cop out. That's just the Dem version of kicking the can down the road.
Why should WE condemn Bush? Our children will do it!
Despicable.
The door of history's judgment swings both ways. Those who stand idly by and allow the republic to sink beneath the weight of these lies will be consigned to the same moral pauper's grave.
Or does the Ancient Roman senate enjoy some exhalted reputation today that does not extend to the Emperors?
Impeach the SOB....and his little dog too...
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INHERENT CONTEMPT
Put the bitch in jail for starters, lets get this show on the road already.
IMPEACH !!!!
From the looks of Bush in this picture I would bet he's thinkin about that stain on Harriet's blue dress.
Bush won't be dictator of this country although he would like to. Don't mistake his cravings with actual reality. He doesn't stand a chance. Even if he made a move, it would be very short lived.
Speaking of Harriet, isn't it obvious that she's been his lover for quite a few years. She has drunk the kool-aid and thinks she is protected. She is in for a rude awakening.
Hold her in contempt just for her staggering temerity to 'believe' that she was the best-qualified candidate for the Supreme Court when she readily accepted Bush's childish offer to his longtime friend and aide. Never mind she had to know there were clearly more qualified people than her for the position, she said yes anyway, as she could never say no to her idol, Bush. She showed astonishing arrogance with her acceptance of his offer. That act alone merits public humiliation by this contempt charge.
Capt. Bat Guano @ 5:
Where it started in the first place, I don't know, but has been around for years.
I like fark.com's stance. If "first post" appears at all in your comment, it gets changed to the word "Boobies" and has the time stamp changed to it is the last post, and all get to glory in your idiocy.
If they don't - then they stand for NOTHING.
Meirs strikes me as weak. I don't think she will handle questioning very well - she'll fold. I suspect this is why Bush is going to such lengths to "protect" her.
What we need is an exodus - en masse - from the Bush loyalists who still have a shred of decency in them. If they did they would earn the right to call themselves Americans again.
Excuse me - I'm delusional - forgive my momentary lapse. . . . .
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HulksHeroes @ 61:
LOL!
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I hope they get charged and there isn't any Ben Nelsonism
Why does he tilt his head so stupidly like that? He looks like a fucking ridiculous wooden puppet. God, I can't stand the sight of him.
Whats wrong with Tuesday!
Bush has his hand up Harriet's ass but I can still see his lips move.
Imagine her on the Supreme Court.
Better to imagine then to have it as a reality.
Harley @ 75:
Bush got Alito in her place. He simply switched one unqualified reich wing crony conservative activist judge with another.
miers was the person who gave the texas lottery back to the man who could blow the cover on bush's military records. it was to pay for his silence and now the nomination to miers for her part, and silence. if miers gets on the stand there may be questions about that little affair and there's the possibility she'll fold. She probably demanded he site exec. priviledge.
see 2nd edition of armed madhouse for the names, etc
Wow, what a contentless comments panel -- you should all feel sorry for wasting the electrons.
Contempt against Bolten and Miers will pass the committee, in spite of the rampant defeatism in evidence here. Speaker Pelosi has already approved that process, and it will succeed.
Then all the backbiters and disaffiliated leftists can attack Conyers for doing it on Wednesday instead of Monday, and for being actually IN the Congress, instead of outside lugging brickbats around in the hope of revolution.
Some apparently have just discovered the existence of the August recess. Wow, when did they come up with that method of destroying the country, huh? Hard to know who to trust -- guess trusting some commenters in a mutual defeatism party is as good as a drink down at the corner, these days. So, cheers! Hope the persistent drinking of defeatist circular logic quenches your thirst for apocalypse instead of politics.
Each time we are tasked to go down this road, it brings us closer to the reasons why Bush and Cheney need to be Impeached.
Understandable, it is very painful and frustrating for American people to have to continue to endure all the crap we are witnessing, but it is so important and necessary to educate ourselves as well as our young people. We have to follow through and hold these people accountable for the destruction of this country and the murder of our kids. If we have to uncover every rock and hole in the ground, these evil bastards are hiding in, we need to do it.
If we are really paying attention to these republicans , It would be clear to all of us that Senator Reid was right to spring that all night slumber party on them and here's the reason.
In the last few months we have all these Republicans running all over this right wing disgusting media, many of which are running for office, speaking out against Bushes illegal war policy, some even spoke of his actions as boarding on criminal activity even to the point any intelligent person would believe that they would be more then ready to join the common sense group of Democrats that have learned how serious American people are about getting our young people out of that hell. You would think they would simply walk the talk, but not these cheap bastards, they were simply lying and playing games with the lives of our young people hanging in the balance as they have done the entire time this crap has been in play.
The American people got an opportunity to see these fools for the continued liar's they are, when Reid and the Democratic party forced their nasty hands. Now this sick media is all over the place talking about how disgusting it was and how bad it failed. Not true at all and that is the reason they are doing this to attempt to embarrass the democrats into not doing it again so that they can prevent exposure on the republicans that are pretending they are actually human.
We have to continue to remind these folks that Impeachment is just not an option any of them have a right to decide weather they want to follow through with or not, but it is a very necessary and vital part of their duties and responsibilities and when they continue to deny this function, they are all derelict in their duties and in violation of the constitution and I am not just speaking against the Democrats, but Republicans also.
The Democrats need to re-schedule these parties every week and even some weekend events to tie these bastards up in knots, until they bring our kids home and while they are at it they need to start the Impeachment process of Cheney first Gonzales next and then get Bushes and put a snatch to Condi's ass too. These bastards need to feel some real pain and worry for a change and I hope the Democrats start exercising the power they have and cut off the funding except enough to bring these young people home and stick firm and fight these evil fools in the same manor they are fighting us.
Please stop backing down folks, we have your backs
Can't help but picture the chimp with a rope around his neck in this photo. Shame on me. That's an evil thought, and I certainly don't want to suggest that, but he looks sorta like he has an invisible one around his neck...don't you think?
They'd better goddamn charge them with contempt. That's the least they should do.
Fingerbo @ 81:
Why are you angry at them? It's not Chairman Conyers' fault that Bushco are traitors, or that they are stonewalling during a trillion dollar war for their backers.
Chairman Conyers, I salute you. I don't really understand why the disaffiliated think you're to blame, but most likely they don't know either.
Another worthless exercise in futility. Contempt charges----so what! More political posturing and mental masturbation to appease their egos and blow smoke up the public's ass.
Paul in LA @ 78:
We are reaching a point of no return, where the executive is allowed to operate free from any legal constraint or oversight. If you wonder how many could be cynical, consider how bad things have gotten. If you had told me six years ago that the US would suspend habeas corpus, trample the bill of rights, run the government in secret, and deliberately trick us into an unnecessary war I would have though you were paranoid. The conservatives see the left as the real enemies, because we have the ability to expose them for what they are. Their excuses sound more and more ridiculous, so they HAVE to adopt these methods simply to survive politically. To do otherwise is to confess to criminal behavior. They are cornered like animals and that is why they are so dangerous right now.
Congress must enforce the law if we are to resolve this crisis peacefully.
SpankyTheMonkey @ 83:
You obviously have no appreciation of the gravity of the situation. Bush is asserting his executive privilege in order to run the government in secret. If he gets it there is virtually no crime he can not commit and get away with. His defiance of the subpoenas is an act of desperation from a criminally insane administration. If Bush is above the law, we are all under his heel.
Meirs has that goofy light of love look that Condi gets when she's around the Shrub Makes you wonder if Bush actually had to rape Margie or she gave it up
Bush looks like he just farted.
Kevin Simms @ 28:
I agree. Tammy Faye Baker looked better during her last interview with Larry King.
Contempt or INHERENT CONTEMPT?
If it's merely Contempt of Congress, the Dems are just farting in the wind.
Knock knock
Who's there?
Sargent-at-Arms
Knock knock
knock knock
They'll just ignore it like they do everything. Geeze.
Kevin Simms @ 28:
You goddamn right.
She goes first. Then Bolten. Then KKKarl. Then Gonzo. Then DICK. Then Dumbya. IN THAT ORDER!
Enough hollow threats, Dems. Put up or shut up time.
The Champ is out.
Jack Damage @ 9:
Jack: I could not agree more totally an completely. WTF? The line in the sand was drawn
on July 20th(4 days ago) when Conyers sent the letter to Fielding/Bolton giving them until
YESTERDAY at 10:00AM to shit or get off the pot....Well, here it is Tuesday and now they
are given until TOMORROW..."or else" Or else what...we'll give you until Thurs. or Friday,
or Monday of next week. What a farce and disappointment.
Now we understand why repugs think ann coulter's good looking.
Charge them both with contempt because that's what it is. Enough already of this dickin' around.
Remember when she was the shrubs choice for Associate Supreme Court Justice?
What a joke that would have been.
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