Daily Show: 1994 Dick Cheney vs. Post-9/11 Dick Cheney
By SilentPatriot Wednesday Aug 15, 2007 11:02am
Jon compares the eerily prescient Dick Cheney of 1994 with the Dick Cheney of today.
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It's really amazing to contrast these two Cheneys. The latter Ceney would argue that "9/11 changed everything," but what did Saddam have to do with those attacks? According to President Bush, nothing. Whatever else you might say about Dick Cheney, he is not a dumb guy. The 1994 Dick Cheney was dead on about what would happen if we toppled Saddam Hussein. Hell, even Bush 41 and Brent Scrowcroft advanced the same argument back in 1998. Other than having a President whose strings you can pull, what else could have changed Cheney's world view since then? I wonder....
Check below the fold for part of the 1994 Cheney interview:
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Q: Do you think the U.S., or U.N. forces, should have moved into Baghdad?
A: No.
Q: Why not?
A: Because if we'd gone to Baghdad we would have been all alone. There wouldn't have been anybody else with us. There would have been a U.S. occupation of Iraq. None of the Arab forces that were willing to fight with us in Kuwait were willing to invade Iraq.
Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein's government, then what are you going to put in its place? That's a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off: part of it, the Syrians would like to have to the west, part of it -- eastern Iraq -- the Iranians would like to claim, they fought over it for eight years. In the north you've got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey.
It's a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.
The other thing was casualties. Everyone was impressed with the fact we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action, and for their families -- it wasn't a cheap war. And the question for the president, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad, took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth?
Our judgment was, not very many, and I think we got it right.








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Fristed by Dick.
I think Dick is seriously paranoid. Maybe it began with his heart troubles and peaked on 9-11. Sure he's evil and all, but there seems to also be a mental problem as well. Either that or he has gone batshit crazy.
Alien pod person. The real Cheney has been Raptured.
Cheney is a puppet of the Wolfowitz gang and has destroyed a great democratic nation of the U.S.
After reading Richard Clarke's "Against All Enemies," my conclusions are that Wolfowitz and Armitage were defensive and scowled..."Well, I just don't understand why we are beginning by talking about this one man Bin Laden. You give Bin Laden too much credit." Perhaps, Wolfowitz knows who was behind 9/11?
They had ignored Clarke's warning since Wolfowitz gang wanted to attack Iraq and in my view used Bush/Cheney to do their bidding.
I can imagine Clarke's position; he is supporting the president's agenda as a loyal citizen and taking the brunt from the opposing party.
One can envision the scenario after 9/11. Bush was making a desperate case to go after iraq rather than the Al-Qaeda networks. Bush's loyalty to the Saudi monarch or the Israeli networks blinded from bringing those who were responsible to justice.
And now we have the Iran fiasco. Did Iranians attack us to go after them?
This is not democracy; this is a power grab.
This is an easy one...In '94 he was Secretary of Defense under some 'relatively' clear thinking guys like Scowcroft, Powell and (yes) Bush 41. This time he was the f*cking Evil Shadow Puppetmaster POTUS...See the difference?
Wow. In 1994, Cheney was a freedom-hating, terrorist-enabling pansy democrat.
What changed?
Easy answer to that one:
Dick became EVP of Halliburton.
Now he had a chance to make some real profit from the chaos.
And he is you know.
Who stood to make some money is what changed, the rest of us be damned.
Haha. now we know what he keeps in that man-sized safe.
The cool, calculating sophistry by the Dick, belies the Diabolical Genius at work.
We shouldn't underestimate our opponents.
Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld etc. have been playing Chess for 30 years while progressives have played checkers.
At this point, with their criminality in plain view, it would not be unsportsmanlike to flip over the board and start a new game.
Personally, I prefer Go-Fish.
In 1994 Cheney was merely staying on message as was his job in the Bush I administration.
From 1995-2000 Cheney was the CEO of Haliburton and saw first hand all of the money that could be made servicing the military. As a former Security of Defence he knew intimately that an army at war would be a better client then an army at peace. For five years he tooled Haliburton for the job.
When the opportunity to make himself a potential VP came along then all the pieces fell into place. Once in power over 7 billion dollars in no-bid contracts were given to Haliburton, for which he still owned stock and was receiving other severance payments. This man made tens of millions of dollars while in power.
Win in Iraq or lose, who cares when you're a war profitter?
the good lord took a likeing towards this prick but that was before bush started to eat the peanuts out of his shit!
equilibrio @ 9:
If progressives have been playing checkers, most Americans didn't even know a game was being played.
Dale @ 6:
Lol.
Cheney...
Strong and wrong
and still worshiping his own ego
And watch out for that Romney character...
and his Blackwater Connection..
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/05/359872.shtml
And while Mr Belligerent ( Bush ) is trying to 'deceive' US into 'yet another war'
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_administration_trying_to_deceive_...
...And while Mr. Belligerent is trying to block general from testifying on Iraq
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/White_House_may_prevent_general_from_0816....
And while Mr. Belligerent's ally trained, and armed the Taliban
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Pakistan_provided_military_aid_troops_to_0...
--> Mr. Belligerent inks another arms deal with Israel, $30b
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_envoy_signs_30_billion_dollar_Is_0816200...
History... A mass--murder mystery...
Shine on.. all the good people.
You Americans just don't get. Your country has been hijacked by
a cabal of war mongering gun salesman. You just sit around with
your thumbs up your assess. Where's the outrage. Where's the march on Washington.
What's happened to America.
Take your country back.
EZ - exactly HOW was Israel involved in 9/11? You got half the equation correct -- the majority of the hijackers were our "allies" the Saudis.
What changed since '94?
1. (say it with me) HALL-I-BURTON
2. board member of Zionist neocon war mongering think tank
a. Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs
b. Project for a New American Century
3. Enron
I think if this is the best we got, we're fucked
Cheney, with all the gravatas of a black hole.
To #15, I can't disagree with you. Thom Hartmann had some interesting answers as to why Americans are in the state of mind that you describe. Summed up to one word: demoralized.
All the good people are trying to figure out how.
"And so once again Oh, america my friend
..How did you come To trade the fiddle for the drum"
We have all tried to let the spirit of peace shine through all of us. We have all tried so hard, though sometimes weary. As we all watch across the world, we still hope that we can peacefully stop an out of control train.
Give us all the courage and the grace
To make genius of this tragedy unfolding
The genius to save this place.
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"Everything changed at 9/11"?
Terrorist attacks has been happening in the world for decades, at 9/11-2001, it happened to mainland U.S under an incompetent/corrupt administration, as opposed to the WTC bombings the previous decade.
That was the only thing changed.
Canuck @ 15:
Would you like to come here & help?
I've been protesting for 30 years and am not now in good health. The last time I demonstrated in DC--and it will be the last time--a DC cop tried to run over my feet as I sat resting on the curb.
OT but Jose Padilla verdict to be announced at 2 eastern time. You remember him. The guy they arrested and tortured for a crime he wasn't even tried for.
I've heard a lot about what coronary surgery can do to cognitive function. Hmm.
Janet #23 @ showthepresswedocare,
We are all waiting too..
something IS and has been VERY rotten within Cheney's homeland security apparatus.
only in america ! i could make a fortune if i just had a gallon of elvis prestlys piss, after bush and cheny wed buy anything not made in china! im all shook up!
War profiteering, connections to the military industry, etc should be a huge prominant talking point for Dems in the run up for '08 and ever after. Middle America loves businesspeople, though they loath those who profit by the war and death of their kids and neighbors. Make these war profit connections clear and documented on easy to read web sites. Make the repubs explain their relationships with Blackwater, Halliburton and the likes. Get them on record to discuss how much they have made and divide that by each death, to find the exact value they place on American life (not to mention iraqi life). Turn this number into a talking point. Make war profit tracking of candidates a science and commonplace part of politicking.
Someone please forward this comment to candidates.
With respect and kindness to all.
So put this together with the Larry King interview from a couple of weeks ago and you get this conclusion: To Dick Cheney, it has been worth 3600+ American dead and hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq to topple someone who has been proven to have posed no immediate threat, AND he'd do it all over again. He would actually rather get into this quagmire again than do something that actually protects our country! And WHY? Three letters: O-I-L. "America is addicted to oil" and SO ARE YOU
D to the Izzle @ 29:
Don't forget W-E-A-P-O-N-S also...
In 1994, wasn't Bill Clinton President? I don't think Cheney was in his administration.
Yet one more 'revelation' to surface AFTER the 2004 election that may have very well influenced the outcome irrespective of the vote fraud in Ohio. Who's been keeping this 1994 interview under wraps for 12+ years. Surely, the person who conducted the interview knew of its existence, as did others. You have to admit, these guys are really good at covering their tracks, at least temporarily.
We already know that Dick is a dick.
Tom Rodeheaver @ 31:
That's actually an excellent point. Clinton was continuing the Iraq policy set forth by Bush 41 and Cheney (if you think about it, Cheney was the real VP, not Quayle). A great case against the 2003 invasion was that we had Iraq under our thumb. Whenever they turned-on a radar, we bombed the hell out of it. We dropped an average of 1 bomb on Iraq each day during Clinton's two terms.
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Tomorrow at 7:00AM EST C-Span's Washington Journal will discuss this video to get callers and emailers' reaction. Even they've noticed that this has been a hot number in the bloggersphere.
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Videos not working?
Had problems with the video too. Have yet to view them. Waiting for traffic to die down a little perhaps?
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I keep thinking about Hitler and how the German people were not able to change within, or work up enough resistance to stop millions from being slaughter in the concentration camps. I keep thinking that the torture to the undesirable of our country and the kidnapping and repress media coverage, is pretty much the way it was for Germany. People are not going to care much for those that are painted as enemies, just as the Jews were painted as the blame for everything that was wrong in Germany.
After we go invade Iran, will the world unite against us? I think its apparent that the check and balance is gone and with unconstitutional spying among our leaders. Our representation is compromise, and the whistle blower of the intelligence organization no longer protected, and thus the unspoken 4th branch of govt is no longer protecting us in the media.
I am not the only one that said this! I have heard others say "Can the country even be saved at this point?"
After seeing Russia fall, and regroup, the question remains is that after this is all over will America be the same? will it be Amerexico? Canadexico? or split the country off to Mexico and Canada?
TheGreek @ 30:
Oh! When did we find weapons there? I must have missed that on Fox News.
This just gives credence to the notion that the NeoCons have known what they were doing all along in Iraq.
If they knew the outcome of invading Iraq and still did it, doesn't that mean that the current outcome was what they wanted?
NOTHING CHANGED AFTER 9/11!!!
What of what Dick said in '94 changed after 9/11?
(sorry to preach to the choir, just blowing off steam. *pant, pant*)
Halliburton had a good deal going in Iraq in 1994. The UN had given Halliburton a monopoly there.
Saddam Hussien in the late 90s started talking about the day when Halliburton would get booted from Iraq. Saddam mentioned Halliburton's (and Dick Cheney's) involvement in the oil for food scandal and the skimming that was going on under Dick Cheney's direction.
In 1999, (I think it was), the UN started holding meetings to discuss lifting sanctions and allowing competition to enter into Iraq's oil industry.
Dick Cheney wanted Halliburton to keep a monopoly on Iraqi oil. So keeping Haliburton in Iraq is worth killing over a million people in Dick Cheney's view. I think Dick Cheney would gladly sacrifice the lives of a billion people to keep Halliburton in Iraq.
Sadly, Comedy Central will probably be the only 'network' playing this 1994 Cheney interview. I'd like to hear ABC, CBS et al. explain why they never played this interview during the selling of the Iraq War in 2002 & 2003.
everythin chayenged with nane eylayven.
Has chainey ever had a stroke?
One side of his mouth never seems to move much.
Maybe as he got older and fatter, he just got dumber and greedier..
Naaaayyyhh, I suspect he's always been that greedy... Still not quite sure if he's
extremely clever and smart or extremely dumb and clueless...I'll have to cede crafty...diabolical even.. But those aren't exactly great traits.. Especially as he has utilized these particular attributes...
Either way, his views, advocated policies and inappropriate use of the
office of vice president in pursuit of whatever the fuck his final objective is/was
(money and power for its own sake???), has caused the ruination of our country...
One can no longer use the term 'great' in connection with our nations name
under present circumstances... I remain, perhaps naively, hopeful that IF we citizens of this country can possibly rid ourselvse of these criminals and the pox they have visited on us... Perhaps down the road and after reparations, we may once again proudly use the phrase 'our great nation' in self descriptions....
One can only have and probably must have hopes and dreams that this sick reality can be changed. That in fact, given an honest opportunity 'we the people' can undue this horror..............It's the only thing we Americans who are sick of this shit can cling too in order to fight the demoralization that has taken hold in recent years..... To all the canadians and other posters from other nations who are/have been taking us to task wondering when we were going to take action???
I want to say the sleeping giant that is the vast percentage of Americans outraged by the last seven years, are awakening... But the reality is I can't say any such thing until the events of this year play out......Please stayed tuned and don't bail out on us just yet....... JD
Actually, Dick Cheney is a dumb guy.
Great speaking voice. Convincing, obviously. Absolutely stupid.
I honestly believe that the weight of Cheney's imminent, and likely not too distant mortality has twisted his mind.
If 5th graders watched this and then stack them up against the 28% it would be a shut out. How can anyone in their right mind not come to the conclusion that they knew we would be in this mess. America is a bunch of sheep.
Was he lying back in 1994 or is he lying now? Al we can go by, are his own words. "I was never so bethumped by words" Shakespeare. Who are you going to believe,,,Me... or your lying eyes?
This video if nothing else should prove what a cold twisted man dick is.
What changed since 1994 was Oil, and the need for an established military base in the middle east to guarantee we will still get oil in the future as it runs out and as the Chinese make their resource power grabs throughout the world.
9/11 did a lot more than kill 3000 Americans and destroy a bunch of buildings. It seemed to destroy our ability to think rationally. Many of our reactions thereafter were of the knee jerk variety.
There are people in high places who can take advantage of those kind of situations. Rather than seeing 9/11 as a tragedy, they saw it as an opportunity to further an agenda. I'm not sure that Cheney was one of those but he certainly fell in with a bad crowd. Based on his 1994 tape I think Cheney was quite rational then.
9/11 did change everything, and one of the things it changed was our natural distrust and skepticism about what government tells us. We were vulnerable and in many cases gullible. The few skeptics remaining in the media were filtered out leaving a bunch of stenographers who basically pass out government handouts. I was never a Phil Donohue fan but his firing is a clear case of what could happen to anyone who asked too many questions. Most of the reporters who cover the Whitehouse and the Pentagon now should probably be called spokesmen for the department they cover. Rarely do you see actual journalism taking place.
In 1991 I was in the military and listening on the radio to the news that Bush(41) stated there was no need to advance into Iraq and remove Hussein. He emphatically announced that it was not part of the UN agreement and it would risk additional lives of coalition forces. At that time I thought to myself, "Incredible. The guy actually has a heart." But then I thought back on 41's CIA ties and all the lies of Iran Contra and the October surprise in the 1980 election.
At that point it struck me as horribly chilling the calculations and patience this group has with regards to get what they want and how to go about it. He/they knew at that time it was not good timing, would be difficult internationaly to try and parlay this into an invasion and ouf course there was that pesky election to worry about in '92.
So they wait and do it a different way - line up a fall guy in the opposite party just in case the economy tanks (it did) and 41 loses (he did) and subject the Democratic president to scorn and ridicule, then blackmail him with sexual liasons and force him to resign in disgrace, thus making it a cakewalk to put in another Republican puppet. And it made it nearly unanimous that our moronic electorate embrace an absolute moron from the same loin of the "Read My Lips" father.
Damn, whatta country! And we wonder why we're in this mess.
One more thought. Remember back in the late 60's/early 70's when there was a seemingly endless abundance of protest marches and draft card burnings and so forth? And a guy named Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali said "I ain't going" when he was supposed to report for duty in Vietnam? Remember any of that? I do.
So where is everybody?
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Gotta love the meaningless response from Cheney's office: "That was after he was Secretary of Defense and before he was Vice President."
The implication is that he had access to better and/or more extensive intelligence (slam dunk), which we know was nothing more than a turd polished by Wolfowitz, Feith, et al.
So we should consider that they really DID know this would happen, but didn't give a whit because they would be reaping other rewards - no-bid contracts for Halliburton, significant degradation of Constitutional protections, the opportunity to re-do the Imperial Presidency of the Nixon Era (only not get caught, perhaps) - and perhaps they couldn't imagine that the body count would average 1K a year.
If they did it because of greed, they're corrupt bastards who need to be indicted.
If they did it because of stupidity, they're idiots who shouldn't be trusted with the carte blanche of the AUMF and warrantless wiretaps.
If they did it because they think they're doing God's work and bringing about the Rapture, I hope they like it in Hell.
Actually, I shouldn't have said made it "nearly unanimous that"...we elect a Republican, but rather, unanimous that the Republican straight ticket voter would pick ANYONE the RNC put forth - even a dumbass son of the former President who couldn't manage his way out of wet paper bag.
Why am I not surprised. Cheney's comments have exposed the mother of all flip-flops!
I'm puzzled why this clip is now appearing all over the place. I remember reading the quote back in 2003, so it's not exactly some suddenly rediscovered treasure. But don't get me wrong -- I'm delighted to see it re-exposed. Also, I'm not sure that the original version I remember reading included the last line about how many dead Americans Saddam is worth.... I don't know about you, but for me that line provokes a whole new dimension of outrage.
You've got to wonder whether he believed this whole spiel, or if he was just loyally spouting Bush (Sr.) doctrine. If it was just the former you could almost forgive him... except that his analysis makes so much sense and was proved so right.
I agree. Dumb he's not. Evil, corrupt, disgusting, unpatriotic, hell yeah.
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Funny how this asswad and Idiot Boy labeled Kerry a flip flopper during
the 2004 elections...fucking amazing!
hadenuf @ 22:
I understand your experience, american police are extremely violent and merciless...you americans need to learn from the spaniards....remember when millions of spaniards went out to the street and expelled their president because he was supporting Bush's war in Iraq? What the american police can do if 2 or 3 millions of citizens go to the street and demand to stop the war in Iraq? ......or better....to demand Bush to resign.....
RMack @ 58:
I thought everyone forgot about the lies that Daddy Bush supported. Remember the whopper about the 300 premature babies who were taken out of incubators by Iraqi soldiers. Supposedly the incubators were sent back to Iraq. Of course it was all a lie. There weren't even 300 incubators in Kuwait. That didn't stop Daddy Bush from using the lie to drum up support for the first Gulf War though. The daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador even lied to Congress pretending to be a nurse who witnessed the event. When it came to how to use lies to promote a war, George Junior had a good teacher.
Tom A. @ #56 gets the cookie. Saddam was jerking with the oil supply out of Iraq. One week he's putting out 2 million barrels/day, the next week the spigots are turned off. This drove the Saudis nuts. They were used to being in control, and Saddam was toying with them. It was one thing for him to take over the bordering oil fields that Kuwait was slant drilling into, even though his taking the entire country was not what they expected. But creating instability in oil production, despite the sanctions, was intolerable.
Paranoia @42 also brings up an interesting comparison. Back on the late 20's and 30's the nazis screamed "The jews!. The jews!". Then during the cold war it was the capitalists screaming "The communists! Today we have a similar group of people screaming "The muslims! The muslims are coming to get us! Same fear mongering, different era. And we keep taking the bait.
TheGreek @ 30:
Oh yes, we are selling/using lots of those as well.
You weren't seriously trying to mention WMD were you? I mean, that would be disingenuous since it has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt that they didn't have any when we kicked out the UN inspectors in the middle of the search and invaded their sovereign nation.
royally LIAR!
IMPEACH....America's biggest blunder.......WE the PEOPLE deserve justice!
You need to ask what could have changed Cheney's worldview? That should be fairly obvious: ministrokes causing dainbramage tops my list. What drugs does that old fogy take? What are the psychological side effects?
Then there is always "absolute power corrupts absolutely". HE is the puppetmaster holding the strings in this Admin. It has driven him insane, much the way it drove Caligula insane.
Dick Cheney, the dynamic douchebag of 21st century politics.
The difference was that, in 1991, there was still a Soviet Union. IIRC, Gorbachev was in charge of it. The Bush 41 administration didn't feel like they had a free hand to just take over countries whenever they wanted. There was still a balance of power in the world.
What changed was that the Soviet Union was dismantled. And then PNAC (Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, et al) got into the woodwork of the White House, and insisted that, now that there's no more USSR, the USA can do whatever the fuck it wants, wherever it wants, whenever it wants. The "Bush Doctrine" of pre-emptive and unilateral war in Russia's backyard (the Middle East) would not have been possible during the Cold War. So Reagan and Bush had to remain content with doing their unilateral pre-emptive wars only within its own backyard (Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada, etc).
I remember reading the quote back in 2003, but I never dreamed there was video.
thank you liberal television news!
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the only thing that has changed since 9-11 is that now cheeney is bringing home his money in semi's ..driven by Mexicans i'm sure
What hasn't changed at all since 1994 is that Cheney's still covering his ass. In '94 he was defending the decision not to take down Saddam Hussein three years before, which Bush I didn't do because people were sick of the war and wanted it over (sound familiar?), and forget those Iraqis who were ready to rise up against Saddam. (You know, the ones we left high and dry?) Now he's defending the exact opposite decision.
He's the same lying, ass-covering, unAmerican shitbag. He's just richer now.
The real question is that during the '04 campaign, when Kerry was accused of being a flip-flopper, why didn't he use this little beauty ...
To any of you out there that like Dick (not you girls) please state his human qualities that make him so fucking enjoyable. For sale: Dick Cheney voodoo dolls $4.95.
And why the hell has this video taken so long to come to light? Liberal Media my ass!
[...] Here’s Stewart reviewing the video, and here’s Stewart working over the guy who just wrote the new puff-piece bio of Cheney. [...]
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Dr. Acula Says:
EZ - exactly HOW was Israel involved in 9/11? You got half the equation correct — the majority of the hijackers were our “allies” the Saudis.
Both halves are our allies.
[...] an old interview was found and broadcast again, in which Cheney clearly stated that it would be total madness to invade Iraq, the White House immediately replied in their usually robust manner, showing that denial is still [...]
Why did it take 5 years to find this clip?
I heard Bush 1 say the same thing That Cheney said about 2001. They knew what was going to happen. They sold it to the American public anyway. What was the motivation? Enriching themselves and their friends?
Here is the transcript of Darth Cheney on Tim Russert in 2000.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/elections/cheney_nbc0827...
" RUSSERT: Do you regret not taking Saddam out nine years ago?
CHENEY: I don't, Tim. It was--and it's been talked about since then. But the fact of the matter is the only way you could have done that would be to go to Baghdad and occupy Iraq. If we had done that, the U.S. would have been all alone. We would not have had the support of the coalition, especially of the Arab nations that fought alongside us in Kuwait. None of them ever set foot inside Iraq.
In conversations I had with leaders in the region afterwards, they all supported the decision that was made not to go to Baghdad. They were concerned that we not get into a position where we shifted instead of being the leader of an international coalition to roll back Iraqi aggression to one in which we were an imperialist power willy-nilly moving in to capitals in that part of the world, taking down governments.
So I think we got it right. So I suppose it's one of those things that will be debated for some time. But I thought the decision was sound at the time, and I do today. "
Who actually broke the story of this interview, and why did it take so many years after the invasion to break?
Jesus, where was this in 2004? Or 2003?
Seriously, this should have been in the public consciousness as soon as Cheney began to advocate invading Iraq.
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