Vladimir Putin: U.S. Wants To Dominate The World
By Logan Murphy Wednesday Aug 22, 2007 9:01pm
Via Reuters:
Russian President Vladimir Putin, in one of his harshest attacks on the United States in seven years in power, accused Washington on Saturday of attempting to force its will on the world.
The White House said it was "surprised and disappointed" by Putin's accusations but added Washington expected to continue to work with Moscow in areas such as counter-terrorism and reducing the spread and threat of weapons of mass destruction.
In a speech in Germany, which one U.S. senator said smacked of Cold War rhetoric, Putin accused the United States of making the world a more dangerous place by pursuing policies aimed at making it "one single master".
Attacking the concept of a "unipolar" world in which the United States was the sole superpower, he said: "What is a unipolar world? No matter how we beautify this term it means one single center of power, one single center of force and one single master."
"It has nothing in common with democracy because that is the opinion of the majority taking into account the minority opinion," he told the gathering of top security and defense officials. Read more...
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Putin is a prick, but at least he's a prick that tells the truth.
Putin calls a spade a spade ... its about time somebody call Bush out ... Congress won't.
If I was him I would say the same thing. Bush is encroaching on every front. They have every reason to be concerned.
Apparently Putin was the one better at looking into souls than Bush, because he's definitely got the number of Bush and his cronies!
How are we going to survive one more year with this pair of bastards in
the whitehouse. bush is delusional and a drunk.
cheney is just a fucking lowlife selfish bastard full of lies and deceit.
Think for a minute "just how many foreign military bases are there in the United States?" How many does the US have in foreign countries? http://www.tni.org/reports/militarism/outpostsofempiremap.jpg?
Did this thread disappear?
Bush and Cheney said as much when they stole the election in 2000. I hope Putin relays that message around the world so other leaders can stand up. Bush/Cheney had a plan to take over the world by first invading Iraq to control the rich oil rights and move on to other countries. Cheney thought he could use the Saudis as a player until he didn't need them anymore. Yes Iran was to be part of the plan but of course Cheney had to leak the CIA covert agent working in Iran just to make sure the American people wouldn't stop the illegal invasion of Iraq. Americans can be proud of the two term Liar-in-Chief and we will be paying for those mistakes for many years to come. Osama tried to tell the American people what was going on but the White House stopped releasing Osama's tapes. As for Osama he's doing very well as promised by the White House, he will never be touched. Yes the fake stories of looking for him has fooled the people but even the people overseas know that's a lie.
At lease Iraqis will have enough American cash to buy homes here in the US as millions of Americans lose their homes. Even Iraq children get the best health care even coming to the US if necessary but as for American children they get nothing let them die as Bush says we have to give more money to Iraq. Putin knew Bush was finished on his last visit and laughed all the way home after talking to the idiot Bush and his Daddy. Oh yes Daddy had to talk for his baby boy because George is an idiot. Barbara Bush made cookies and Putin put them in the garbage. Notice Mrs. Putin didn't attend the meeting just like the French First Lady wouldn't come to visit. Laura is the joke around the world for the First Ladies think she's a joke too.
Bush looked into Putin's soul and saw a good man.
Putin looked back and saw a fucking incompetent dumbass. The same thing the majority of Americans see.
What is he? Jealous? Yeah - we suck like a pile of Bush's rotting corpses - but Putin sucks too. Perhaps he just wants to suck the most.
I don't mind him talking about it one bit however.
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I don't trust Putin. But can someone convincingly say he's wrong?
Ruthless People @ 9:
...too bad we couldn't have seen it sooner.
We're better off being friends with Russia.
We don't want to fu*k with Putin.
You know, Valdimir Putin has always reminded me of actor David McCallum (e.g., "The Man from U.N.C.L.E."). You be the judge:
http://www.100tonsofstuff.com/images/Paper/TV-ManFromUncleBlonde-ws.jpg
Dick Cheney says that Russia is now on his list, right behind Iran.
Putin is wrong. This administration started this Iraq quagmire to loot the federal government of money for big business. It has nothing to do with ruling the world, it has everything to do with getting rich and keeping the spigot of money flowing into Iraq. This war has been nothing but a ways and means for federal contracts to be handed out to undeserving contractors who don't even have to supply the services they were contracted to do. The recent Rolling Stone article is sobering.....buts it's nothing that the 10%ers in this country didn't already know or suspect.
Loonie @ 11:
I don't trust Putin either. What's worse, I trust Bush and Cheney less. It's pretty bad when you distrust the leader of the former Soviet Union less than you trust your own "leader".
Haha, the joke's on us.
Russia & China in joint military exercises.
Russian missiles to Syria.
Huge indebtedness to China.
Yeah, it's jealousy.
I wish he'd kiss MY belly.
Russia took the turn towards Fascism when they rejected the intellectual statesman Gorbachev in favor of the corrupt, drunken common everyday lout Boris Yeltsin. Since then, it's been a slog down the tubes towards authoritarianism and oligarchy.
Kay @ 15:
Russia has nothing to worry about. Russia has nukes and can defend itself. Bullies only pick on those weaker than themselves. Saddam would be in power today if he had nukes which is why Iran is rushing to get them. Bush and Cheney have unleashed a new nuclear arms race.
Kind of reminds one of home.
Snowball @ 20:
You sure it's not us thats on a slog down the tubes towards authoritarianism and oligarchy?
Wanted to - wanted to dominate the world. They were oh so smart, they bet they could do it even with a monkey as President. They were wrong. The monkey drove the war machine straight into the first ditch barely out of the first gate.
America is strong and powerful but America with Bush at it's head is a just a Pinhead - all brawn, no brain. Capable of immense destruction but incapable of even the most minuscule construction.
Ruthless People @ 12:
Um...isn't there some unwritten code against quoting yourself?
Russia could annihilate the USA in 45 minutes. We seem to forget quickly the nukes never went away.
Putin is ex-KGB.
Elder Bush is ex-CIA.
"W" is ex-National Guard Flunkie and Skull & Bones.
Cheney is ex-Draft Resister.
Russia used to be Communist.
The United States usedd to be a Democratic Republic.
Bob Roberts @ 25:
Worry if/when he starts arguing with himself.
Snowball @ 20:
Don't kid yerself, snowball. Gorbachev never stood a chance.
Read the history. Russians love authoritarians. Tsars, commisars, whatever ya call 'em...Russian facism is Stalinism with a new name.
Snowball @ 20:
I have to disagree with this. Russia - prior to the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution - had a long, long history of authoritarianism and imperialism. Putin's consolidation of power (as well as Yeltsin's, to some extent) is consistent with a return to that tradition. In fact, it is Putin's opposition - the National Bolshevik Party - that should more accurately be labeled fascist. You decide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Natzbols.jpg
Yeltsin's problem, aside from alcoholism, is that he was in bed with the oligarchs who systematically looted state-owned assets to enrich themselves and create a gangster society. It is this Yeltsin legacy that Putin has effectively cleaned up by going after the oligarchs and restoring state-owned assets (e.g., Gazprom) to the state.
I'm not defending him but just trying to put things in perspective.
Sorry to quote myself, but
Russian facism
is, of course, Russian fascism.
I love all the smarty pants here.
Seriously.
We ALREADY HAVE authoritarianism and oligarchy.
Guess that get-together with the Chimp and his Old Man didn't take.
BTW: Putin's right.
Don't mess with him, the man is built like a brick shithouse. That said, he is every bit the thug Bush is, ask the family of Anna Politkovskaya.
eric @ 6:
Map is crap. Look at Australia....Totally black indicating "Countries with Significant
U.S. Military Presence"...and I see ONLY one (1) red circle indicating a US base location.
Also, the"Sources" used appear questionable.
Mr Pelicano-
Yeltsin’s problem, aside from alcoholism, is that he was in bed with the oligarchs who systematically looted state-owned assets to enrich themselves and create a gangster society. It is this Yeltsin legacy that Putin has effectively cleaned up by going after the oligarchs and restoring state-owned assets (e.g., Gazprom) to the state.
Ivan the Terrible vs. the boyars? Peter the Great vs. the Streltsy? And both of 'em through some nice little wars to boost the Russian ego while consolidatin' their powers...
Not only has Iraq tied up our military in one place so no other potential enemy has to worry about it, but it also exposed the myth of our invincibility. Before we invaded Iraq, no one was going to challenge our military, We did look invincible. Now that we are held in check by a bunch of poorly equipped and poorly trained insurgents, a lot of other potential enemies are probably seeing us as paper tigers. The idea that we might be invincible, true or not, was probably our best defense.
Andy K @ 29:
Well do the Russian people love authoritarianism, or have they never crawled out from under it? Hard to know what freedom is when you're a serf.
At any rate, I understand that Moscow is quite modern, as well as expensive.
Ruthless People @ 17:
Yeah, I never would have thought I'd believe the former head of the KGB more than I'd believe the President of the United States.
Weird.
Andy K @ 37:
Andy K: Sorry? What? I'm going to assume that we're in agreement here. Even as a Marxist-Leninist myself, I'll take Putin over the NBP any day. Those fuckers are scary and remind me of the Brownshirts and the National Front.
At least Gates can hear clearly calling Putin's comments "interesting, very forthright".
Russia calling Putin's remarks "an invitation to think" pitch-perfect.
Fuck this dangerous flock of imbeciles called the u.s. gov't. I'm ashamed every sane thought has to go through a scrambler.
Poppa Putin to little Putin sitting on his knee: "Son, if you want to be dictator then be the best goddamn dictator there ever was". Ain't honesty refreshing.
So now when stuff is deleted, there aren't even fumes left?
hadenuf @ 39:
Well, let's see...Revolution in 1917 exchanged the Tsars fer the Bolsheviks(after a few months of democratic Menshevik rule), the collapse of the Bolsheviks was followed by a few years of Yeltsin- who was tryin' to consolidate power himself-to the guy who now poisons his critics with polonium.
Admittedly, the Russians attempted a few other revolts(Pugachev, the Decembrists), but those movements never gained any momentum or gained much support.
What the Russians have never had is a Runneymede, a Bastille stormin' or a Boston Tea Party.
Ruthless People @ 12:
No offense - but some of us always knew.
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Kyle @ 35:
My sentiments exactly. No surprise that Putin is seizing the opportunity of the world's disgust with bush to bolster his own agenda for unbridled power.
I don't want him kissing my belly. I might end up carrying the Son of Satan in my womb. Putin is just as malevolent as Cheney, except Putin happens to be blessed with a startling degree of charisma.
"I like Hillary Clinton more and more. Obama? He looks good but there is no there there."
That is the recent opinion I've heard in the MSM and that's what the media will sell it from this moment on.
No f*****g there there!! And what some clueless, stupid c**t can know about Obama that makes her self-centered expert in the presidential candidate picking contest? Geez. Let the husband cheat on her in the most secured and transparent place on Earth, did nothing about health care, because these judgment skills, or lack thereof, led to weakening and disgracing any powers she might have had and used, and with these judgment skills she expect this nation to give her the free-pass to the White House to extend the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton American presidential dynasty for another 8 years?
How will she use these infamous judgment skills that one is born with and can't perfect them, learn them or train them, when it comes to Russia, China, Europe?
Are you kidding me.
There is "no there there" in the heads of most of the Americans who are about to make a grand mistake and that is what I fear most.
Mr Pelicano @ 41:
IMO, that's like comparin' Goebbels to Rohm. Two sides of the same coin.
And look at what happened to Rohm.
Andy K @ 44:
Again, I'm no friend of Putin but there is no credible evidence (i.e., evidence provided by sources not closely connected to neo-cons) linking him or his government to the polonium poisonings. The credible reports I've read point to Russian organized crime.
Regardless, Russia - Soviet history has been characterized by continual authoritarian rule as far back as one wants to go. Putin is no worse than most of his predecessors and probably better than recent ones. However, his refusal to find a compromise over Chechnya is unconscionable.
It's unbelieveably sad when our President makes the leader of our recently historic arch emeny look sane and reasonable. Remember when Putin said that if "Iraq is your idea of Democracy, I don't want any part of it?" (not quoting word for word, but that was the gist of it)
I don't like Putin, but he is observant.
Bob Roberts @ 25:
No
enemy.
Ruthless People @ 52:
No again.
Bush Bites @ 40:
If you lived in Russia you would think just the opposite I'm sure.
Ruthless People @ 55:
In other words I am agreeing with you....and for those who have a problem with me quoting myself, tough cookies!!!
Mr Pelicano @ 49:
Yeah, no evidence at this point, but combine the Litvinenko poisonin' with the Yuschenko(Dioxin) poisonin'....This has KGB- and its remnants- written all over it.
And if you were the leader of a state tryin' to assassinate someone, wouldn't ya throw in a little mis-direction?
Trittydi @ 45:
None taken. I saw it the day the loon was sworn in.
Doggiebobo @ 36:
The US also has troops in the home bases of other nations.
"Pine Gap is the commonly used name for a satellite tracking station at 23.799 S, 133.737 E, south-west of the city of Alice Springs in the heart of Australia that is operated by Australia and the U.S. It consists of a large computer complex with eight radomes protecting antennas, and has over 800 employees. It is officially called the Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap. It is believed to be one of the largest ECHELON ground stations and appears to be physically and operationally similar to the signals intelligence facilities at Buckley Air Force Base, Colorado.
"...Professor Ball...described the operational area as containing three sections: Satellite Station Keeping Section, Signals Processing Station and the Signals Analysis Section, from which Australians were barred until 1980."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap
Putin is like some character in Dune. Plans within plans. He's not far off the mark in calling Bush and his cronies on their megalomania, but I'd trust this fucker as far as I could throw him.
I can't be the only one that saw the Sith Lord in that picture.
I do not trust Putin but Bush is our responsibility.
Putin for Speaker of the House!!!!
A total dirtbag like Putin calls out the current maladministration for the same crap that the USSR pulled.
My my, how the tables have turned.
How dare Putin say bad things about the U.S?
Bush will no doubt invade Russia now. After Iran. Or maybe at the same time.
xoites defends Constitution @ 63:
Good luck with that.
Somebody's not going to get invited for cheeseburgers, banana pudding and onion rings anymore
Q: When pondering, "What would it take to get the Republicans to finally see Bush for the catastrophic failure he is?", I came up with one really good answer:
A: Undoing Reagan's legacy, pushing Russia back to Communism and the return of the Cold War.
To Conservatives, that was Reagan's great achievement. It is the justification they would use for adding his face to Mt. Rushmore.
Then we heard that Russian had hooked up with "Red China" and started flying spy planes again. And now we have Putin criticizing the U.S. in language that evokes "Cold War" rhetoric all over again.
If relations between Russia and the U.S. grow more chilly... even hostile... you can bet your sweet arse that even Bush's most deluded 22% base will abandon him.
anyone can hate him if they want to, but it's like stalin characterizing hitler as a bad man, as I see it!
I couldn't help but notice this post went without the usual self-righteous, snarky comment from C&L. I really hope the left doesn't retreat to its old days of only criticizing the US's hypocritical policies. Putin is a bastard who kills journalists and free-speech dissidents; Bush, for all his intentions, is still not as bad as Putin is. Human rights violations need to be pointed out wherever they exist, not just in our own backyard. It's the only way progress can be made, and not lose context for our own problems.
When George looked into Vladimir's eyes, maybe Vladimir should have looked back to see ... well he wouldnt have seen anything, he would have gone blind and died a slow death similar to polonium poisoning.
Vladimir, if you were in George's position, what would you have done? Anything different? George used anthrax, you used polonium. Its a difference with no distinction.
I love the way John Warner is "hopeful" that true democracy in Iraq should be pushed. John Warner, who supported the Military Commissions Act here at home; John Warner who supported the withdrawal of habeus corpus from America.John Warner, who thinks it's OK to have a dictatorship in America as long as we push for democracy in Iraq.
Say what you want about Putin, but what is clear is that he is not a sociopathic, low intellect, deluded asswipe like our own current Leader. He seems to have a better grasp of reality. At this point I would settle for leadership that just isn't mentally ill.
DefendHumanRights @ 71:
I'm an old guy. I dont remember the 'left' defending the thugs in the kremlin. I DO remember the thugs in right wing think tanks accusing the left of doing just that over and over and over.
mystic @ 73:
I kinda wondered about that too.
DefendHumanRights @ 71:
why are you attacking C&L?
Correction the NEO-CON's want to dominate the world, the USofA is just find being a peaceful member, but I would say that everyone in the world needs to worry big time if we get another Republican president.
Ruthless People @ 9:
Putin really saw a Skull and Bones allumnist, power crazy, imperialst warmonger driven for domination of the world - unfortunately for all the conspiracy stuff about about military and financial domination of the world the world will probably be largely uninhabitable by the time gedubyas dream comes true
mystic @ 66:
Yeah, but boosh's reason will be oil.
Ruthless People @ 55:
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 78:
shouldn't we be worried now?
Russia and China have checked the Neocons' plans to bomb Iran.
China's mention that they control US interest rates, joint military exercises and Russia resuming her long range bombing runs were all deterents to Bush Co. hint that there will be "strong consequences" for Iran for doing this, that or the other.
Let's hope Bush Co. heed these warnings.
"I would say that everyone in the world needs to worry big time if we get another Republican president".
Hellooo!!! There is no longer any distinction between our two parties. Hope I'm wrong, and you're right, but I truly believe that because Congress refuses to stop this madness, things are beyond reversal in our lifetimes anyway.
Mugsy @ 69:
Are you sure about that? I mean, these are the same people who can look at Iraq and look at Afghanistan and say that Bush is doing a heck of job and even imply that he's the best president on mideast matters. If Bush deliberately triggers a thermonuclear war (not saying that he would, just a hypothetical) you'd still have a few right-wingers saying that it would be better for both countries to be destroyed than for Putin to keep being a dick towards the President.
anon @ 75:
Well, it's much easier to accuse for the right-wingers to accuse the left-wingers of doing the same thing that they do instead of actually crawling out of bed with the fascists and authoritarians and pretend to have even a sliver of the democratic spirit that makes Americans what they should be.
anon @ 75:
If Putin calls the sky blue...and bush calls the sky chartreuse, would believing Putin be in "defense" of Putin, or would you be simply in touch with reality.
Mr Pelicano @ 49:
there is plenty of evidence, simply no adjudication of specific guilt. and since pootie is smart enough not to leave a trail of emails, there will probably be no direct connection.
Everything he saids is RIGHT!
To hear Putin talk about democracy is like hearing Bin Laden talk about the need to protect the innocent.
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 78:
until bush is NOT the president and until the representatives we put in the senate and congress execute the will of the people of the US and not the neocons, this country is exactly what others say it is.
BaScOmBe @ 90:
That's not fair. That's like saying that China enjoys killing animals and small children. Both statements might be true but that's no reason to say it.
It takes one to know one, doesn't it?
Anyone remember the very first thing that Bush did after he became president? He threatened China to release the crew of a U.S. SPY PLANE which had collided with a Chinese plane over the South China Sea? One response from China was:
"How is it that there is such an extremely rude and arrogant government in the world?"
Soon after that Bush hinted at going to war with China over Taiwan.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/apr2001/taiw-a27.shtml
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Que Bolton the 'stash slamming his shoe on the desk, "We're gonna bury you! We're gonna bury you!"
What a difference a few decades make.
So does Bush
Ruthless People @ 9:
Taking the "Super" Out Of "Superpower"
Be concerned; be very concerned about the long term implications connected to Putin's comments. The quote I chose says it all. The rest of the world does not have to accept Bush's propaganda and bully tactics.
The rest of the world can see, as a matter of fact, the realities we have delegated to debate. Take the Al Qaeda in Iraq claim; most of the world does not have a Fox news to spin the truth. Or, the rest of the world does not have two cable networks mimicking the popular conservative ideology of a leading network just because they want number one ratings.
Without a CNN and MSNBC in their country, the rest of the world can see things for what they really are, and they see a country doomed to fail. Have this nation ever been of the verge of being the world's new "bad guy?" Putin has put the thought out there; now lets see who will collect the facts to back his claim up. Remember, the rest of the world will not have to debate facts.
In affect, the media has put blinders on their viewers and have created an undesirable affect that could make the US look like the "new" monsters of the world. America what have you done to yourself?
Joseph
"U.S. Wants To Dominate The World".
The U.S.?
Do you suppose he really means George Fucking Bush wants to dominate the world?
Putin is, of course, right about the US and its grandiose ambitions ti dominate the world. However, his jealousy is showing. He only wishes his country had the funds at its disposal to impose its will on smaller less strong countries, as does bush.
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Even a cursory look at post-WW2 history will tell you otherwise. Cuba, Afghanistan, Cambodia, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Laos, Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, the Philippines... I could go on, and on, and on. He means the US. George W Bush is a symptom, not the cause.
"(Putin) only wishes his country had the funds at its disposal to impose its will on smaller less strong countries (like the U.S.)
But Putin is smart. The way to balance that is to make friends with a big nation like China. Bush has managed to antagonise pretty much everyone, except Latvia of course, oh and that country in the middle east.. The Latvians and that middle eastern country just love him to bits.
Why is that statement so outrageous?
It's only what the rest of the world's leaders and most of the citizens of the world have been saying since the UNILATERAL invasion of Iraq on false pretenses.
And the "unipolar world" is precisely what it became when the USSR split up.
As much as the US revels in the "fight to spread democracy," it's very clear merely from its complete disregard for the UN, that democracy is the last thing the US wants.
Would you bother installing an evil totalitarian dictator like Saddam Hussein if you were at all interested in democracy? Clearly no.
Would you take out the democratically elected Allende and install Pinochet, allowing him to torture and kill thousands if you were at all interested in democracy? Clearly no.
When you can get past the propaganda smokescreen and enter the realm of reality, it's very easy to see that the US wants a world that runs according to its will and its will alone.
Calling a spade a spade isn't outrageous.
hadenuf @ 18:
Haha, the joke's on us.
Russia & China in joint military exercises.
Russian missiles to Syria.
Huge indebtedness to China.
Yeah, it's jealousy.
You are so right. Putin is telling it like it is. No wonder
is pissed.
Darabos said he saw no danger from Iranian long range missiles and the United States should try for a different solution.
The Us will never shine again, thanks to chimpy and his gang.
Actually China doesn't even have to wage war on the U.S. All it has to do is stop covering our collective ass. We'd be brought to our knees overnight. Begging in the streets for food.
timmm @ 83:
It has been rumored that Rove left the WH because he can't stop Cheney from planning the attack on Iran.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 102:
The Us will never shine again, thanks to chimpy and his gang.
the 'shield' is a myth. remember the patriot missile was 38% accurate against 'scud' missiles? those missiles were clumsy and took simple paths to a target and were single warheads.
the chinese have missiles with 'evasive systems' and they have been sharing tech info with the russians; so imagine multiple evasive warheads . lockheed martin (an american company?) gave the chinese the tech used to knock out satellites.
So I ask, "What technological edge are we supposed to have here?"
The pathetic thing is that the Bush administration has actually completely ceded the moral high ground and has initiated an agenda of overt coercion of sovereign nations by force based on dubious assumptions and Putin may well be able to capitalize on the opportunity. Having lived through and been schooled in the ways of the cold war it would appear that many of our nation's current actions are vulnerable to being described by the rhetoric formerly directed at the Soviet Union and People's Republic of China. I'm not trying to make a value judgment here.
Read the Project for a New American Century's blueprint for world domination through force projection and consider how many PNAC zealots are at the forefront of American "policy", then examine the Bush administration's unilateral militaristic actions and rhetorical excesses over the last 6 years, add in what muddy puddle says at #19, and then try to imagine looking in from the outside and it's not hard to get to where Putin's rhetoric is defensible.
"Actually China doesn’t even have to wage war on the U.S. All it has to do is stop covering our collective ass. We’d be brought to our knees overnight. Begging in the streets for food".
One good thing that could come out of our impending bankcruptcy would be the picture of Barbara Bush begging for food from the top of a New Orleans trailer with 25 Katrina victims. Or even better watching her entire body being swallowed whole by an indiscriminate alligator.
Tony Snow @ 91:
It's not fair, I'll grant, but it is irrefutable.
Cheney and Bush have nothing to lose. The more you pull on the decider's cape , the more he shows his stupidity.
Actually, US has first strike primacy over both Russia and China at the same time. Basically, the US can annihilate the entire nuclear deterrent of both countries without suffering a counter attack.
Russia has very few serviceable bombers left, and it ICBMs are in even worse shape. The few that China has can be easily targeted and taken out.
It's not longer WarGames anymore where no one wins. The US can actually win if vapourizing half the world means winning.
Check this article:
The Rise of U.S. Nuclear Primacy
Keir A. Lieber and Daryl G. Press
From Foreign Affairs, March/April 2006
Today, for the first time in almost 50 years, the United States stands on the verge of attaining nuclear primacy. It will probably soon be possible for the United States to destroy the long-range nuclear arsenals of Russia or China with a first strike. This dramatic shift in the nuclear balance of power stems from a series of improvements in the United States' nuclear systems, the precipitous decline of Russia's arsenal, and the glacial pace of modernization of China's nuclear forces. Unless Washington's policies change or Moscow and Beijing take steps to increase the size and readiness of their forces, Russia and China -- and the rest of the world -- will live in the shadow of U.S. nuclear primacy for many years to come.
And the US has been developing even newer field nukes to extend the primacy. It's pretty grotesque.
Bush and his gang are lying, power hungry, fascist, scumbags who do indeed want to control the world. I deeply respect Putin for being honest and forthright in telling it like it is.
Scumbag Bush is a low life coward who can't do shit to Putin or the Soviet people, so three cheers for Putin.
This article is from February 10, 2007. Why was this posted today? It's not new.
george has already started...has anyone heard of the north american union? It's george's Idea for canada the us and mexico.
D. Thoits @ 111:
Soviet? Russian! Russian! Never use the S-word to describe our blue-eyed ice-breathing friends to the far East.
If relations between Russia and the U.S. grow more chilly… even hostile… you can bet your sweet arse that even Bush’s most deluded 22% base will abandon him.
I'm done betting when/if the 29%'ers come around. They won't. They are cultists with not an original thought in their few remaining brain cells. The fact that these dimwits can out-rhetoric the Dem capitulators is what scares me wrt our immediate future. We are BIG trouble, and the way I see it, even if Hillary (who unfortunately will be the Dem nominee) somehow wins, we won't see any drastic changes in U.S. behavior. As muddy puddle notes at #99 we have a long legacy that is not exactly "shining" and the world is a lot more educated about our history then Americans are. Deep shit, that's what America is standing in...
If Putin was NOT a prick, saying this particular truth would not have the impact that it has.
Notwithstanding that fact.
Putin is telling the truth.
Bush is a bloodthirsty maniac bent on world domination and he doesn't care who he has to kill to get there and he doesn't give a WHIT for our Constitution, therefore he cares not a whit for America. He is a traitorous monster.
Putin might be right!
Absence of Rove Frees Cheney to Pursue Iran Agenda (1 comments) "It was Karl Rove who had been consistently serving as the anti-Cheney with regard to expanding the Middle East quagmire into Iran," writes Karen Kwiatkowski at Lew Rockwell. "It seems Rove understood that nearly five years of killing people, destroying infrastructure in Iraq wasn't working -- and probably shouldn't be complicated by attacking the neighbors." Whoever thought we'd be sorry to see Rove go?
The United States does not want to dominate the world. It is only the bunch that stole the presidency that do.
When the United State's moral authority has been eroded away, quasi dictators like Putin actually are speaking the truth.
Could it be one day, our country could be considered a rouge nation? If the Dems in congress don't get their act together, I think we will.
Hey- when a guy who looks like a Bond villain starts talking about who wants to rule the world, you should listen. He probably knows.
The difference between Bush & Putin?
Putin - being a reasonably intelligent man - saw a wannabe dictator like himself.
Bush - with his intellect - saw the Tellytubbies!
Actually, this is probably a smart move by Putin. As bad as he is when it comes to domestic affairs, he is pretty good at handling international affairs. As crazy as it sounds, Putin may be the only threat that stands between Bush and an all out attack on Iran. Buckle up for another cold war era, my friends.
Russia has fuckloads of energy.
We have debt.
Kruschev might still be proven right after all.
This article is from February 10, 2007. Why has this been posted here today? And why are you erasing my comments?
The US has got to stop believing it is the cop of the world, from the pentagon on down. Things have gotten way out of control in this country and it has to stop.
L.A. Confidential @ 13:
No ... they don't want to fu*k with us -- don't be a b*tch.
I Am A Banana @ 120:
Do you really fret like this? you can't be serious...
Putin is scary -- he always looks like he's about to pull an ice pick out of his pocket and stab somebody right in the neck!
Since this article is from February, why is it appearing now?
hadenuf @ 39:
Actually the Russians do like a strong leader. They used to call the Tsar "little father". The Russians like to be a proud and strong nation, recognized by the world as such. Authoritarianism is better than being a weak nation, in their eyes. They want to "count". Of course this is a huge generalization, but my Russian History professor was tops in his field on the planet; excellent!!!
Besides, I welcome the rising strength of Russia. I sleep better at night knowing Russia and China are watching Bush and America!!!!!!
Oh, and Putin is absolutely RIGHT.
Putin is no friend of democracy at home but he is correct about the unilateralism that this administration pursues to hell or high water what the rest of the world thinks. That not only has not worked, made our country less safe and has turned many counties against us more then ever before in matter after matter. Sooner or later this type of policy will have a serious spillover effect into commerce.
Russia will soon be at a serious X-Roads itself depending on what Putin chooses. Hopefully the move away from democracy will end but the opposite may happen as well. Russia's becoming wealthy again and since they are the largest nation on earth, have the most natural resources and have a fairly large population it was only a matter of time before they became a great power again. I am hopeful that when the Dems take over in 2009 the relationship will improve.
geoffludt @ 127:
I think if would be a lot better if there was no fu*king at all.
Yep and you need a ready supply of oil to do that.
Stop looking at the last 7 years people.
I wonder why I have to actually say that?
Look what the US has done in the last 100 years.
Check all the dictators, oligarchies and totalitarian 'gov' that were supported.
The attempted rebellions, the phoney wars, etc.
I doubt there isn't a single country that the US has not tried to screw with just so that they will do what the US wants, even if it means supporting the scum of the world.
"What is a unipolar world? Nomatter how we beautify this term it means one single center of power, one single center of force and one single master."
Bush and Cheney are just figureheads. Think about who they serve.
mystic @ 84:
When Oabama and Hillary say that bombing Iran is still an option on the table, then I think there is really no distinction between the two. If Obama wants to get elected, surely, trying to appeal to that 30% segment of society will only make him look like a weasel or a hack.
Sean @ 138:
All I have to say is vote for Ron Paul
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1472615197793317647&q=ron+paul&t...
(4:25 on is the best part)
Yeah, I'm pretty sick of our congress not willing to call out our president or stopping this war...wait, isn't that what we voted them into office to do? Wonder why they have such a low approval rating?
The White House said it was “surprised and disappointed”
more like out of touch and clueless.
The Multipolar debate was described very very well in terms of how CHINA is dealing with the USA in terms of nuclear policy.
There's a brilliant paper on it from 2000 here:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/doctrine/pills2/index.html
Yeah, it's long, but it's REALLY GOOD and well worth reading. It will illuminate what's actually going on, once you read between the lines, and substitute China for (countryX).
We are going into a world of multipolarity - of regional hegemons. Deal.
There are a lot of things "wrong" with V. V. Putin. I lived there when he became PM, when he started the second Chechen war, and when he became President. That being said, there were a whole lot more things wrong with Yeltsin. Here in the States, we heard about Yeltsin as a "triumph of democracy", but that was a load of horseshit. He stole every election and all the Russians knew it. They hated the guy because he sold out what was left of the Russian economy to a handful of oligarchs and looting, western investment bankers. For example, i used to buy free newspapers from a man who spent his life as a nuclear physicist and a weekly grocery shopping trip exceeded the gross, monthly income of a lot of Russians that i knew.
Yes, the Russians "like" authoritarianism, but it is all they have ever known. Furthermore, they know how to work an authoritarian system. That is, they don't expect their government to take care of them, they expect it to take from them. A day in the life of an average Russian is all about gaming the system, bending, breaking, or working around the rules.
Mr. Putin is respected there because he commands respect. He has also given the people back their self-respect.
As a career spy, every Russian knows that you cannot trust him...but unlike our leaders, you can respect him. We--the West--need care, because Mr. Putin is carrying the chip for a whole nation on his shoulders. He has no fear, loaded with resources, cash, and military might. (yeah, Cheney, good idea thinking of going after the Russians it didn't work out so well for Napolean or Hitler...it didn't work so well for us either. We didn't invade, but we sold our soul and our economic might to arms race them into the ground, and we gutted our economy in the process.)
And at the end of the day, he is the only world leader willing to call this administration out. This administration calls back that he is destroying "freedom" in Russia...the word has no meaning to Russians, which is at least realistic. Here, the word is mythological...and that is all that it is.
Loonie @ 11:
Nope, I cant.
Ruthless People @ 12:
Some of us did, but we couldn't make ourselves heard. There was too much rejoicing amongst the idiot masses that the "adults" were in charge again and no one would listen to us.
Now I suppose next time people will listen to us and we'll be WRONG. What a world we live in. ;-)
Mugsy @ 69:
Maybe not. After the cold war the Republicans didn't have anyone to scare us with until al-Qaeda came along. Russia is a much better Boogieman if you want to support a massive build up of often useless military material.
Bush and Putin are dieological soul mates. Putin is every last bit of the totalitarian wannabe as is Bush and has, like Bush, absolutely no regard for any democratic or human rights principle. This smacks of being agreeably pre-arranged by the totalitarianists in both camps. Watch tensions be slowly ratcheted up, as we sink back into that mutally profitable state we used to know in the good old days as the cold war. It always starts by designating a boogeyman.
Loonie @ 11:
I trust Putin a hell of a lot more than bush. I don't agree with Putin but he seems to tell the truth - something W doesn't have any clue to.
elephantrider @142,
Nuts on assessment. Americans would probably be amazed by how many Russians swear that the only thing Russia needs is a good strong leader like Stalin. Yearn for it, even though it would work against having any kind of freedoms and would doubtless end in opression. They think that if one person is poor and oppressed, at least everyone would be poor and oppressed. Everybody is in equal straights, and they know how to deal with that. Everything is predictable, stable and thus safe. No matter that everybody in government is utterly corrupt and that government is little better than a brutish mafiatocracy. It the devil they know, and they percieve some kind of stable safety in that. This is one way that their entire history and especially 70 years of Stalinism turned them into a nation of near-children.
It gets the neocons all hot and steamy every time they think of it. A totalitarian mafiatocracy is their ideal.
This is news? The Bush Doctrine, enunciated many moons ago, relies upon the existence of the US as benign world hegemon.
Mark Richards @ 65:
Rootin', Tootin' Putin strikes again--I wonder if Chris Matthews will comment about his "shirtless" photos--the Cowboy look, 'ya know ?
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