Why Is James Carville Still Considered A Legitimate Democratic Pundit?
By Logan Murphy Saturday Sep 01, 2007 1:12pm 
The strange bedfellows relationship between Mary Matalin and James Carville may have been considered a novelty at one time, but the novelty wore off a long time ago. In fact, it's painfully obvious that it's done nothing for Democrats for a long time -- and it's high time we put an end the notion that James Carville is an ally of -- or should ever be considered a legitimate spokesman for -- the left. He talks a good game, but let's not forget his support for Scooter Libby or the phone call he made to Matalin the day after the 2004 presidential election, alerting her to John Kerry's decision to contest the provisional ballots in Ohio which ultimately resulted in a call to Cheney and a heads up to Republican Secretary of State for Ohio, Kenneth Blackwell...and we know how that turned out.
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Watching this clip from this morning's Meet The Press there's no doubt who wears the pants in this relationship. Watch Carville giggle like a school boy as Matalin makes a veiled sexual reference toward him. James has been proven to put his relationship before his job time and time again. I have no problem with that, what they do in their relationship is none of our business -- until it becomes a liability and then we have to speak out and do something about it.
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This is a staged relationship for the cameras to provide a fable of how the two parties can get along.
The MSM needs a faux Dem to make their crap look fair and balanced.
talk about sleeping with the enemy.
"Why Is James Carville Still Considered A Legitimate Democratic Pundit?"
Is he? By whom?
He is and always was Republican Lite. Why this is still a mystery to most; is a mystery to me.
He's just a used car salesman. Whatever will get him the commission is the best thing since sliced bread...
Carville and Chertoff....separated at birth
Everytime she puts her hand down under the table you just know that she is squeezing the hell out of his balls.
On the other hand when Bob (0-8) Shrum makes you look bad, you're really out of it.
The make up sex must be friggin' hot.... oh God, sorry for the visual, folks. Don't hit me, don't hit me.
Mary Matlin makes my ass want to suck a lemon..........and James, I wouldn't trust him any further than I could throw Mary by her forked tail.
She had a bad
hairwig day.It reminds me of King George being Lynn Cheney's bitch!
It's obvious about who wheres the pants in the WH. And after Lynn's BS spectacle on a news show about 6 months ago, it's obvious who wears the pants in the Cheney disfunctuale gang( can a "moral values" family be seen as a family when the daughter is a sinner in the eyes of GD( Repug morality, not mine)?)
These are a bunch of sickies, and logically, if one is someones bitch, and that someone else is somebody else's bitch, doesn't that make "one" "somebody's" bitch?
I watched the whole show and thought James did well attacking the GOP hypocracy. He is in Hillary's corner and admits that. I have never seen him look scared to share his views that upset Mary.
carville is another one of those old school DLC type democrats, who want to just get along with republicans (i mean he apparently has sex with one on a regular basis, and shes almost reptilian) and just want to sit there and bend over while the neo-cons destroy the country.
sorry james, but your "cant we all get along" nonsense died when the neo-cons took over. you cant get along with people who want to destroy the country to make money.
Chris from Maine @ 15:
She's the one that makes sure he takes his viagra.
These people are all part of the Beltway clique. This is all just kabuki theater. These people are all on the same side, really. They're all shills for the establishment.
The thought that Carville is any kind of spokesman for the left in this country is laughable.
The Crypt-keeper and Shrum are both DLC "pundits", who haven't earned their keep since '94. No real Democrat would allow either of them to speak for us. They are rethugs lite and everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.
wijg @ 4:
Not me, that's for sure.
The whole DLC should just join up with the Repug Neocons and make a new party. Then the Cloth Coats and the Progressives could form a decent coalition and do something for the people.
Not to defend the guy, but I imagine the person who wears the pants in that relationship is the same person who wears the pants in every lasting relationship: the woman.
A recent study quantified this (as if we needed a study to prove it): statistically, "successful" relationships are marked by men who agree with their wives as quickly and enthusiastically as possible. The more quickly and enthusiastically a man regularly agreed with his wife, the happier the marriage was perceived to be by both the partners and the researchers.
Most marriages aren't a threat to the survival of the Republic, though.
You might as well ask why Tim Russert is still considered a journalist.
Beats the hell out of me.
wijg @ 4:
Not me.
The DLC should get together with the Repug Neocons. Then the Progressives and Cloth Coats form a coalition just maybe do something for the people...
It's like watching Lucy and Ricky, but I'm not sure who is Lucy.
Sorry to sound abrasive..
But about time you guys caught up to reality of the dubious scam these corporate, plutocratic bastards have been playing on us for well over a decade and a half now...
Now it is time to CLEAN up the Democratic party...
Yes...
No more party line nonsense...
From now it is People line...
And WE are the People...
If everyone ignored them- they really would go away.
jitter @ 23:
Well ..
That is what a large portion of the people in this country have been doing for years....
Ignoring politics... and staying home on voting day.
Look where that has gotten us... The Ghouls are in charge.. and they think they are elites...
Ignoring the tumor does not make it go away.
Cat Atomic @ 17:
boing!!!boing!!!boing!!!boing!!!
Matalin's smug spins on the facts is what no one on these shows ventures to reckon with or correct... and when they do, you can bet on a display of "I can yell louder than you can" back from Matalin.
Yep, it's spooky kabuki.
It made me feel better the last time I saw her that her face got increasingly older looking as the show went on. It was like the skin-tightener was giving out right before my eyes.
I heard their marriage wasn't doing so well either.
Blood sport is her thing, no different than dogfighting for other persons. If she thinks she is behaving civilized and smart, she is a fool.
As for her husband, I can't believe the public abuse I've seen him take in some of their past appearances. (And I never side with the man.)
Hells Bells, I quit listening to Carville years ago. "Republican lite" is too courteous -- "snake in the grass" is charitable, "traitor" is the shoe that fits in my opinion.
The truly progressive Democrats among us are already wise to Carville, but thanks much for the update. It's always good to know where the snakes are.
LongTooth @ 20:
Was Timmeh EVER considered a journalist?
Strawberry, I hope you have a good lawyer because I may have to sue you for mental damages due to your comment number 10. ;)
The thought of either of them having sex is awful but the thought of them having it together is just nightmarish.
I think Peter Griffin put it best...
"Did somebody open the Ark of the Covenant?"
Why do people STILL give Carville, Shrum and Bagala credit for Clinton's win in 1992? The only reason Clinton won was because PEROT TOOK MORE VOTES AWAY FROM BUSH THAN HE DID CLINTON. If it would have been a 2-man race, Bush would've won.
So any thought that the DLC was EVER effective is bullshit. These guys never got it and still don't.
That fuck sends me fundraising emails all the time - I'd like to know how he got my email address.
I briefly scanned "Meet the Press" this morning (I pretty much don't watch it anymore because I am so disappointed with Russert) and when I saw the Matlin thing next to the Carville thing, I changed the channel. I just don't see these two as credible spokespersons. It's like a marriage between and cat and a dog. Or, they're both the biggest hypocrites in politics.
He is an agent provacateur.
Regardless what his actual values are, he cannot be trusted - vis Ohio 2004. For this reason alone, he needs to be publicly destroyed as a spokesman.
Carville is a useful tool, just like Colmes.
The question is: what can we do about it? The kabuki serves a purpose. Audience numbers don't matter (Tucker, Beck). What's the leverage?
Karatist Preacher @ 34:
I sent it to him. Sorry about that.
/not really I've just got nothin else.
Carville is a
usefultool, just like ColmesFixed.
Disgusting. Many folks are upset at some of the Dems that seem to go along with the Repukes, but also complicit are the media. They are all in bed with each other and lie to the American people every day. Even Media Matters failed to notice that CNN failed to put the 'R' after Craig's name, I was surprised that Faux News did not put a 'D' there by accident.
The Correspondents dinner is a good example of this. Thank god that Colbert nailed them one year. Can't the media cancel that event for one year and say they will not joke around with a lying, murderous president? No, too much money flowing. Did Russert disclose how close he is to the Carville's? NO. There is alot of this incestuous crap between the media and the politicians that is never pointed out except by Media Matters and others on the internet, but you will never hear it on the TV.
The American public has a low literacy rate and cannot understand nuances and subtle differences in speech and words. Most people believe what they hear not what they read because MOST AMERICANS DO NOT READ!!
James Carville is arrogance and hubris personified. He lost whatever moral compass he ever had years ago--in fact, I doubt he ever had one. He's a whore who sold his dubious soul to that vile woman he married.
Cat Atomic @ 17:
Bingo.
They might as well be debating whether their luxury cars respond better to the premium gasoline or the normal stuff us little people pump ourselves. But no matter which gas they use, we'll still bleed for it.
Might as well change MTP name to "Timmeh's Treehouse" where all he does is invite his clique to come over and talk about their lawncare.
rduke @ 26:
They are not elites and their control is lost forever. Let the ignorant masses stay home. Let them watch Nascar, NFL, Oprah and other distracting elements that are part of the general design to keep the American people happy, design that was manufactured in the early XXth century, be it a moment of joy on a daily basis, weekly basis, in front of TV, on the stadium or in the park on weekends or movie theater. Another ironic thing is that the establishment thinks that dumbing down the Americans will let them control this nation (look at the SAT scores, the trend and Bush's "answer" to the problem). It won't let them control anything. We're looking at a self-weeding out democracy in the purest form. At the end of the day, when the election comes, those who cast the votes are those enlightened ones, those who care, those who want the change and normalcy. Ron Paul is the best example, but other independent Americans who speak their minds and make Americans proud (Gravel, Kucinich, Nader, Colbert) are as much heroic and iconic for the future history book writers as Ron Paul or whoever you find appropriate to compare to Paul. This link exemplifies my point. The control is over because it simply has become too transparent and evil to ignore. http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/09/ron-paul-delegates-experience-...
They must play some HARD S&M .
I agree, time for this traitor to go!
This is state media. No liberal is allowed on tv as bush is backed further into the corner. I thought Howard Dean was a good dem. spokesman...but he wasn't treated well by MSM. Joe Biden...Carl Levin are our spokes people...at least Lieberman ws retired. CSpan is a joke...I have clicked on for a second hundreds of times to see a military person talking..talking ...talking. Anybody EVER listen to the crap. If it isn't under secretary of something it is heritage foundation. Bob Novak is on now with a republican prez. with an approval rating in the 20's. Nothing democratic about our media..and it just gets worse as Bush's approval's go down. WE can not abide boring. I have taken to gardening and reading books.
People have been speculating about the relationship between Mary Matalin and James Carville for a very long time. Actually, its no mystery at all, they both represent the “corporatist” factions in their respective parties… the Repugs and the Dems who feed at the same trough filled by corporate lobbyists!
If your remember right after the 2006 elections there was a coordinated attack by Carville and the other corporate shill, Paul Begala, on Howard Dean and how he had nothing to do with the 2006 Democratic landslide… which was pure BS!
Dean upset the powers that be by doing fund raising from small donors across the country and putting together his “50 state strategy.” If you recall the early days when Dean began he was loudly criticized by the party elites for “not spending enough time in Washington”, the code phrase for he wasn’t spending enough time with the party elites and the lobbyist looking to fatten the coffers and buy influence.
These clowns had to back-off the attack when it was repeatedly revealed that Dean was setting records for fund raising by small donors. So then they tried attacking the way the funds were being allocated to build party organizations in all these states and get them staffed.
After 2006 Carville and Begala harped away that Dean deserved none of the credit and was actually harmful and it was all hail to Rahm emanuel and the DLC clique… which Hillary Clinton became the Chairwoman of:
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=85&subid=108&contentid=253475
The public didn’t buy it and began properly identifying and Carville and Begala as Clinton’s attack dogs and suddenly their attacks stopped.
Now Hillary has been repeatedly called upon to defend her stuffing her coffers to the tune of $60 million dollars with lobbyist money and her buds in the “corporate MSM” continue to marginalize the campaigns or Jonathan Edwards and Kucinich, despite the fact that Edwards has pulled in the lead in the Iowa polls:
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_time_democratic_iowa_cauc.php
Despite Edwards 5 point lead over Clinton in Iowa and his beating out Obama for second place in South Carolina, the MSM continue to characterize this as a Clinton-Obama race.
No doubt… Hillary is the “anointed of Wallstreet” and her picture splashes prominently across the cover of Fortune magazine. Her war chest swells with their contributions.
So back to Carville and Matalin… their just a couple of opportunists who know who butters their bread, regardless of party affiliations… corporate lobbyists!
Where's her Elvira flower. I think it makes James' balls shrivel...
http://www.crooksandliars.com/images/Matalin-MTP.jpg
When are true liberals and people to the left of that - together, about half the US population - going to loudly DEMAND real variety in the viewpoints on these shows? A very big part of public opinion is almost completely unrepresented in MTP, This Week, Hardball, etc.
Gore Vidal has been callin them out as a propaganda couple for years & years.
He misses the old days. The problem is Clinton's conservative democrat paradigm really set this country up for te Bush years. Welfare to work, gays in the military. This is not the kind of country we want as progressives. Say goodbye to the centrists. Why bother with Hillary when there is Kucinnich?
Normal?
Give us all a break. If Mary Maitland is indictative of any of this country's norms, its no wonder we're swirling 'round a drain hole.
Hmmm, now I wonder what Fred Thompson's campaign slogan will be?
And Carville; he's always followed the money. Literally.
Can we get the video where Shrum get's Mary to throw a pen?
oops never mind .. didn't scoill down far enough
I gave up on Carville when he supported Lieberman against Lamont.
She is a......clearly uniformed neocon traitor......
Is it too much too ask that these clowns keep their pathetic sex lives private?
What we have here is two people thoroughly milking the system for all it's worth....they don't care about the country...they care about money.....atleast she hasn't been a traitor to her own party,country ..yes absolutley....Carville on the other hand is both.
Forgot an "n" but I think I made my point. Very few women qualify for that title but she surely does. Mary and her like and all the supporters of this administration will never get the blood off of their hands for what they have done during the last 6+ years. If there is a god I hope he/she/it shows no quarter for these people.
Whatta bitch! I'm sorry.
She can't open her mouth to talk, too Mucj Botox.
James does a good job on CNN.
They were in K Street on HBO, weird show.
James Carville's a pathetic character. He still thinks it's 1992 and he's still a mover and shaker in Democratic politics ( you know, the heady days of "The War Room" and all that) Nobody in the MSM has a heart to tell him that they keep him around pretty much for comic relief.
The core of any partnership is the belief of certain common values. To marry someone totally different from you on such a monumental issue as Social Justice, is nothing short of selling your soul.
OMG, I was saying the same thing to myself. Who picks the Dem’s talking heads anyway? None of them seem to be able to provide compelling arguments.
Again and again and again the Dem’s let them get away with the same old deceptions. Can’t we get anyone who is not afraid to take off the gloves and exchange with these people??????????????????????????
FreeDUMB @ 57:
Man, I really wish they wouldn't do that. Matalin and Carville - shit, now I have this image in my head of two warthogs fucking. Need alcohol - stat!
I just watched her toss her pin on DVR. That was hilarious! She didn't throw it at Shrum, she threw it at her Republican ally because he pointed out the obvious that Iraq is nothing more than a "cafe of bad options and we have to be adults to find the best of the worse solutions."
I got an email last week from him asking for a donation to one of the democratic national committees. I deleted it so I can't go back and see which one. I was surprised to learn he is working on a democrat committee.
I can't stand the sight of him after what he did to John Kerry and all our hopes and hard work in '04.
Is James Carville Still Considered A Legitimate Democratic Pundit?
In the same way the Fox is fair and balanced ok, yes I guess he is.
Any Democrat that uses Carville and expects confidentiality about their campaign now knows all bets are off. The man has become a legend in his own mind, and is irrelevant in today's political scene. He and Begala are old news. Mary Matlin, Cheney's mirror image is out of her mind and should get counseling for rage.
Yes Carvillle is very old hat and the democrats at least need to stop paying any attention to him. At all.
I think I'll skip the clip though - my stomach's a bit queasy today.
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I have been revolted by the James Carville/ Mary Matalin liason for years. This is political warfare at a level just below street confrontations and Carville is playing his pseudosohisticate ain't I cool, Mom, as if it were a happy barndance. I will never trust anyone who is an intimate of a key Cheney confidante. Cheney has murdered hundreds of thousands and his aides are complicit in the horrendous undertaking. Yes, I am talking about you, Mary Matalin and, YOU, James Carville.
mudshark @ 58:
Mary Matalin absolutely has been a traitor to her country. She was in the Valerie Plame affair up to her neck. Carville is a twerp, liberals should turn their backs on him.
Chris from Maine @ 15:
Right, and all the time he's making conciliatory remarks about the Cons on talk shows, he's writing books about how terrible they are so he can make a bunch more money.
Another pair I can't stomach is Bill Maher and Ann Coulter, just no rational explanation for that.
What is Mary wearing? I think she forgot her blouse. Not very Republican of her. Much more like Madonna ... but without the looks and talent.
Tim @ 14:
fool.
anyways, did anyone catch Mary Matalin saying that Hillary is running a perfect campaign?
damn that was weird
Tim @ 14:
It's more than just him...it's the whole apparatus of state-run media in which the corporations are essentially just troughs at which the appointed talking heads have no accountability, there is nothing they can say that will get them fired. But if Carville is a Dem, then Mitt Romney is a straight-shooter.
Tim @ 14:
That goes along with ETnGuy's comment at 5 about Carville being Republican Lite. Like queen bee, like drone.
they were going to park a mac truck up matalin's ass, but someone was already using it for commercial event parking.
The only way James and Mary could have stayed married for so many years is that neither one of them believe anything they say on camera. They must be blathering shills with no core values, otherwise how could they stand to live with each other? This two headed monster is perfect for MSM that presents dueling scripted talking points as genuine debate. Labor Day weekend must be a chance for the totally irrelevant to get face time and Timmy can phone in another show. And Bob Shrum? Was Walter Mondale too busy? Bob Shrum is more responsible for putting the Scarlet L (for loser) on the head of every Democrat. OY!
Not that it matters much, but even Carville's family says he's certifiable.
Hey, you guys, what's this crap about who wears the pants in their relationship??!! Does one partner always have to dominate over the other, and, apparently, preferably the male over the female? Come on, get over your sexist prejudices and come into the 21st century!
I am really proud of James Carville and everything he has done for our party, Clinton twice, forcefiul advocacy preblogs, I shudder to think what a Bob Dole Presdiency would be like. I appreciate that he is on our side and forceful advocacy, even when he is too the right of where I am.
....................And if you have ever slept with a woman whose ideas are 180 degrees from where your at, you know it can be really fun !
GO UGLY............... EARLY
Let us not forget, too, how Carville used his microphone to mercilessly deride and ridicule Howard Dean, in '04. I have not watched him since, and hope never to see his ugly mug, with that faux Louisiana accent in full bore. It is past time that the party officially rip the welcome mat from under him, show him the door and really denounce this clown.
Look both of these two are so tied into the CFR mainstream it is sickening. Of course they are both "pundits" and spin doctors. For what side is meaningless. they are spinning for the corporate side.
A Richard Head @ 39:
Oh, don't be stupid. Obviously he's not useful to the left; he's useful to the right-wing corporate media that hires him.
Why have all these so called talking head experts not been fired? They've been wrong on almost everything political for the past 30 or 40 years. If you or I did our jobs with this much incompetence, we would have been fired repeatedly. That's why I do not watch the Sunday Morning News programmes. The experts, are not experts at all. Just in bed with each other. How sad.
Unfortunately, Carville's stint with Clinton has caused Press the Meat and other Repug propaganda outlets to "use" him as a Dem pundit because they know he is nothing of the sort. His bitch wife can say any fucking nonsense and lie constantly and James just chuckles.
If my wife was lying and talking that hateful trash I'd tell her to shut her big mouth. James Carville is a Tool totally under his shrew's thumb. I'll bet she has cheated on his pathetic ass too.
Carville's jolly whipped, no doubt, but wouldn't you be too if you had to go through life looking like a gargoyle and sleep in the same bed every night with a warring witch like Mary Matalin?
Spare me your silly dominance and submission pants joke. These people are political operatives, performers for pay. They take turns being the snarky pundit and the snarky giggler for each other.
OMG shrill overbearing woman, pants on the woman means skirts on the man, and OMG girly man, girly man, pants, pants, pants. After sixty years of women wearing pants one would think we would be beyond this stupid shit. Criminy.
Did Mary Matlin's face look frozen. The only thing that moved was her mouth.
thebewilderness @ 89:
Apparently, Carville isn't, yet.
Hey, maybe he just changed sides but won't admit to it yet.
Matalin and Carville are nothing more than the greedy scum that have ruined ours and several other countries election processes. They are nothing more than hired guns, each either working their specialty script, or together to slime as many decent people out there as possible. They are the embodiment of what is wrong with electoral processes world wide in this generation. The sooner we can bring everyone to realize that, the sooner we can get rid of them and their ilk.
I never trusted Carville, and if I could understand what he's saying I'd probably trust him less. And you can tell she's the one running the show.
I guess I'm in the minority, I still like him!
GonzoD @ 95:
Yes, you are indeed in the minority on this one.
Lucio @ 75:
anyways, did anyone catch Mary Matalin saying that Hillary is running a perfect campaign?
damn that was weird
That's not weird--that's what all the repubs, media, etc., etc. are trying to make everyone believe. And I'm so damn sick of those people being the deciding force in who becomes the Democratic nominee.
As for Carville/Matalin...ugh, get them off my t.v.!!! I used to appreciate James. Now I cannot stand either one of them. And to think they have children who are going to inherit the world they helped screw up. I will never understand how people who have children think it's ok to enable evil.
GonzoD @ 95:
I especially like how talking heads just seem to inexplicably explode when Carville happens to be there in the studio, just seemingly minding his own business. First Novak's, and now his own wife's!
Okay, they're married. I don't care. Don't mean shit in the big picture. Bigger fish to fry than two talking heads no matter who they work for or that they're married to each other. Their relationship to each other means nothing to me. They get paid to yap their traps...no different than the rest of the pundits out there. I don't have the energy to care about these two.
dothehop @ 93:
"Electoral processes world wide" is perfectly fine. Believe me. The only questionable elections in "the past generation" that I can recall have taken place in the US and Iraq (though I don't quite know if Diebold was contracted in Iraq) If not, then the only totally f**ked and rigged elections took place exclusively in America, which is truly sad and disturbing. Please name any other nation. Venezuela, Russia, Germany, Iran, UK? I don't think so. Please let me know if you recall any media ever reporting volunteering retirees wearing God knows what IDs looking at the ballots to find the f*****g holes to count the f*****g votes? Have you seen any international news ever reporting the elections using machines that don't leave a paper trail, just a microscopic images that can only be viewed by the company that makes the machines using special magnifying machines, stores it, "certifies" it and ultimately destroys it (Ohio) even though any nation world-wide would be proud to archive such symbolic, democratic proof of a well functioning country, at local level, state level, or national level (We are talking about a f****g people's vote on a sheet of paper that strangely doesn't need recycling anywhere else in the world but in America) So what happens now? What can we do? The fact of the matter is the whole process is rigged starting at the straw poll then doctored through the primaries so, consequently and logically, the election next year will be a disgrace and travesty if it actually happens. Personally I don't think the people will buy rigged election results anymore which leaves an open-ended empty space to be filled by whatever time shall bring.
I have been bitching to my sister for many years about this idiot. He looks like a raving idiot when he appears on the news shows with his wife , and also looks as if he is scare to say too much around her. Remember when he also tried to out Dean from his current position with his BS and trying to take credit for the 2006 election turnout of democrats and Independents...
Why do the democrat party seems to find "republican democrats" or idiots for their spokesperson or candidate? The republicans not only get loyal personal for their party's candidate , they seems to find republicans to run on our democrat's ticket like Lieberman and the Blue Dogs.
..oh yeah ? Hillary seems to be a favorite among the PTB around here, and he's her closest shadow advisor...
Same old, same old ... for decades. Why, Matalin is still using her hands as a prop, same as 15 years ago. Yes, Mary, we KNOW you can grow your nails into claws. Yes, Mary, we KNOW you probaby use them to claw your hapless hubby.
This one is BORING -- outside DC, that is. Timmi seems to still love them.
Yawn. Time for a new show.
Lest we forget that he was a major cog in the Zell Miller election machine...
I have actually known and seen worse couples with fatal political attractions.
I am not sure what Carville or Matilan ever did for the their partys or what they actually have to say now that is relevant?
Blah blah blah. A group of bozos (with HUGE egos).
I am neither entertained nor informed by the Carville and Matalin roadshow. Simply put, I've had enough of the two of them. Nothing that comes out of both their mouths can be believed or trusted. And you can add Timmy Russert to that mix too.
Strange bed buddies. Either one can handle what the other says. One will end up strangled in the bedroom.
Carville is part of the same problem that the DNC/DLC/DCCC/DSCC and the commercial MSM are part of. They are all working for the same people that the Republicans are working for. Unfortunately, those people aren't the We the People.
i feel sorry for the bloggers-you actually have to watch these clowns wasting our precious airwaves-well, what USED to be our precious airwaves.
Come on!!!! Why continue to eat your own? You all know that James Carville is a true Dem! My god, look at the documentary "The War Room". Maybe Matlin was his first lay.
Howard Dean needs to come out often and disavow
any comments made by Carville and Schrum, and others
of their ilk. They in no way, speak for the Democratic
party, nor do they represent the views of likely
Democratic voters.
If they want to pontificate on the talk show stage,
there is little we can do to stop them, but somebody
needs to step up and declare that these clowns speak only for themselves and are in no way representatives of the
party or it's views.
These lame brains have been partially responsible for
two blown or stolen elections, take your pick,
who in their right mind would pay any attention to
what they say?
this pair is creeeeee-py! They both look like cadavers -- perhaps a reflection on thier political careers and their souls
yeesh!
Matalin and Carvile are a dog and pony show. Both are beltway insiders and too connected to all the power elites in Washington. Besides which, Carville always seems to defer to his witch of a wife, and often doesn't speak out strongly enough in support of Dems or democratic values because she's always sitting giving him a rash of sh@!t, and at the end of the day, he has to go home with her. I truly can't stand listening to Mary Matalin talk.
I'm not going to give much weight to the judgment of a man who would marry that hectoring harpy.
rduke @ 26:
Ignoring the party talking point messengers on tv will make them go away. Eventually. That's not ignoring politics or issues or the tumor.
That's ignoring spin.
Carville's books are superb -- filled with facts, figures, and arguments that hit the Bush Junta and the GOP right between the eyes; it's such a shame he developed Stockholm Syndrome being held hostage by that right-wing ****. Maybe he'll come to his senses when they divorce. Maybe he'll drop the DLC horseshit, too.
Thank you posters #81 and #89. I was hoping for higher quality from Crooks and Liars rather than the lame-brained "I guess we know who wears the pants in the family" comment. Please. Logan Murphy, there are now a few of your posts that I don't like. Try to be more insightful in the future and don't just pick the easy jab that plays off of long-dead beliefs and stereotypes.
not for nothing, but it's taken you this long that blood claws is the real man in that household? Hello. Just looking at her face and his face and you can tell she's drained any blood that he had in him, and just left enough to keep him to go on talkshows or whatever to keep their name in the press/pr and make some dough.
In regard's to vampire blood claws I figured out many moons ago who is wears the pants. and it ain't skull face.
Reason why I think she "wears the pants" is that he supposedly got Clinton into white house now, now he acts like a milquetoast. Also, guess she is going for neutral nail polish after everyone knows she is part of the Bush Criminal Administration, which, from Wolfowitz,Rummy and Cheney is nothing but vampires sucking everyone's blood.
Why should it matter if a woman wears the pants in a relationship? Fuck your patriarchy, C&L.
The whiners about the "who wears the pants" comment are repukelican trolls, trying to distract from the issue like they always do, since they have nothing of substance to say.
Carville occasionally has something of substance to say, but to prostrate himself before the likes of that disgusting whore Matalin, well, at least he can afford AIDS treatments. I wouldn't stay in the same room with the lying cunt, unless I was assured of an acquittal.
My husband has no problem with me wearing pants. I haven't worn stupid girly-fake-sexy clothes since I was forced to during dress reviews in the Navy. But he'd divorce me in a nanosecond if I ever spewed any of the sewage that slut Matalin does.
How does Carville keep finding time to appear on these shows, when he's supposed to be out trying to kill Harry Potter??
Mary Matalin absolutely makes my skin crawl. But I'm convinced that after 1 or 2 more face tightenings she won't be able to move her lips at all, and we'll never hear from her again!!!!
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