The Chris Matthews Show: David Gregory, put down the Kool-Aid!
By Nicole Belle Sunday Sep 09, 2007 12:37pm
After all this time watching and analyzing the media, I expect slavish devotion from Chris Matthews when it comes to George W. Bush. But not David Gregory, who has been as big a thorn in the sides of the White House Press Secretaries as anyone else in the press corps, save Helen Thomas. Clearly, I was wrong.
One regular feature of the weekly Chris Matthews Show is a question asked of a roundtable of 12 regular pundits/talking heads, known as The Matthews Meter. The framing of this week's question clearly speaks to Matthews' man crush: In 50 years, is it possible Bush will be rated an above-average president?
Four of the 12 bobbleheads said yes, including David Gregory. (You can look at the link and guess which of the others agreed with him, my money's on Tucker Carlson and David Brooks) Listen to Gregory try to rationalize such a delusional answer:








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David Gregory is becoming hackneyed and tired. These Bush pimps realize that their careers are on the fence right now so they are, essentially, fighting for their lives. Most of them will either be convicted of aiding & abetting or conspiracy when the international war crime tribunal kicks into high gear. They're running for their lives.
That must mean they think we're going to have some absolutely unbelievably shitty presidents for the next 50 years straight.
He's dancing with the Rove.
Does Kool-Aid mix well with Vodka?
sunset @ 1:
I discounted Gregaory some timme ago as well as NBC. I think the GE owneship has taken any possible resemblance of real reporting away long ago. I get 75% of my new3s from the Internet, as does most of the informed public. The problem is, most of the public is not informed.
This c*cksucker will do anything for access.
That guy really turned on a dime, didn't he? Seems like he dropped the whole journalism thing after one big state dinner.
Gregory's cashing in - he wants a seat on the gravy train.
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In 50 years time Jr will still be hated far and wide, this delusion that everything in Iraq will magically get better is plain stupid.
Greenwald is right - these people are idiots.
DG must have spent too much time dancing with Karl Rove. DG used to ask tough questions. Do you think he might have heard from someone "on high" to cut it out or risk losing his White House Press Pass?
I too was fooled by David's seemingly passionatte confrontations with the kool aid scoopers. When he attended the Queens ball, his mutually beneficial relationship with the white house came to the fore.
David is a facade. Gives the impression he is critical when he is not.
David - please get out of the way, justice is trying to pass through.
Just the sort of answer I would expect from one of the MC Rove Dancers. 50 years from now, when clips like this are played to explain our country's demise, Gregory's grandchildren will hang their heads in shame that they are related to this hack.
On second thought David, go ahead, drink ALL the kool-aid.
I can't take Gregory seriously anymore...especially not since that night he was on stage dancing with karl Rove! When he and his wife?/gorlfriend?/beard? were invited to the White House for that state dinner with the Queen of England, I knew Gregory had already sold whatever integrity he had and was more than willing to be a Bush lackey in exchange for the glitz and rubbing elbows with the elite!
marie @ 11:
He probably got a call from Jack Welch.
Maybe he just meant it is technically possible.
Whoa, off-topic I know but anti-war protesters were just dragged out of the Congress after Petraeus!!
meaning, "after Petraeus spoke"... now Crocker is up...
Doddering bobbleheads like these, sheltered inside the rarefied Beltway air, are exactly why the blogosphere has taken off. For decades, America would watch them and wonder what the hell they were thinking, why they weren't talking about the obvious elephants in the rooms. Now, with the Internet, you and I can be our own pundits. And we're better than these jokers are.
We need a separate thread for the Petraeus hearing!!! The disruptions and protests are pretty dramatic. There's a lot of screaming and agony in that chamber.
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I could NOT believe that answer either! Gregory forgets that this President has taken a big crap all over the Constitution! We'll never forget that.
"real time mistakes" OMG WTF
(Hey Deniz...I saw it too..and Annie Wright is there..good people are there holding these assholes acountable....Crocker looks scared to death...as he spews the propaganda...) about Gregory- pitiful really....so sad..that someone with a brain could still dance with the Devil.....I guess he really has not been rigth since he danced with Rove....
It's all a smokescreen.
A cloaking thing.
Pay no attention to the guys on the other side of the cloak.
Doesn't David Gregory know the terrorists are trying to kill his children, even though he does not yet have any? George Bush says so, and so George Bush knows that David Gregory will one day have children.
Seared in my memory: Gregory as Rove's dance partner or rather back-up singer-dancer (aka one of the Pimps, with apologies to Gladys K & Pimps).
I recall that he'd previously been taken to task (over a question or?) and came back as a neutered version of his former role as a more persistent pressman (not much competition and not saying much). Anyway, he's much less than he was and much more a tool wrapped in a veil --so we're to think he's part of the "liberal" press we hear about. They only fool themselves.
enigma4ever @ 24:
How can the Devil dance and fiddle at the same time?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qepv1mtYdx0
He's become assimilated by the Bush Borg.
Fuck the main stream media.
David Gregory has beltway dinner partyitis. He is a sell out trying to curry favor with the mouth-breathers
Why would anyone be surprised. Bush was a MSM darling even before he was elected (chosen). Bush is evil and stupid and the MSM is the same. Gregory is just another tool in this Corporatocracy.
We bash FOX all the time for NOT being balanced...
David Gregory of ALL people has gone out of his way
to go after the BUSH Admin... and you say he is Drinking the Kool Aid
That is BULL.
He could be correct ... i don't think that he is ... but it is not
a crazy opinion.
The same with the bashing of Chris Matthews .... people here seem
to pay NO attention when he goes after the Right but wine
when he goes after the left????
I saw that yesterday. They're wrong.
Even if Iraq does turn out okay (which would be a major miracle) it won't be because of Bush, it'll be in spite of him.
Interesting background....
All in the Family.
David Gregory is
married to --> Beth A Wilkinson
http://www.forbes.com/finance/mktguideapps/personinfo/FromPersonIdPerson...
Executive VP/Secretary/General Counsel at Fannie Mae
NW Washington, D.C. FINANCIAL / MORTGAGE INVESTMENT
Officer since February 2006
Beth A. Wilkinson, 44, has been Executive Vice President- General Counsel and Corporate Secretary since February 2006.
Prior to joining Fannie Mae, Ms. Wilkinson was a partner and co-chair, White Collar Practice Group for Latham & Watkins LLP from 1998 to 2006.
Notable Latham & Watkins attorneys
Philip Perry, was Department of Homeland Security, General Counsel, now a partner in the litigation department and chair of the Public Policy practic group.
-->He is married to Elizabeth Cheney, attorney, diplomat and daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney.
Notable Latham & Watkins alumni
--> Michael Chertoff, U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security
Before joining Latham, she served as a prosecutor and special counsel for U.S. v. McVeigh and Nichols from 1996 to 1998. During her tenure at the Department of Justice, Ms. Wilkinson was appointed principal deputy of
--> the Terrorism & Violent Crime Section in 1995, and served as Special Counsel to the Deputy Attorney General from 1995 to 1996. Ms. Wilkinson also served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of New York from 1991 to 1995.
Prior to that time, Ms. Wilkinson was a Captain in the U.S. Army serving as an assistant to the general counsel of the Army for Intelligence & Special Operations from 1987 to 1991.
steve @ 33:
With respect to you Steve, I ask
Do you believe Bush and friends have committed any crimes?
If so, then it is MSM responsibility to keep that out in front until their is resolution one way or another. That responsibility is both towards the accuser and the accused.
At minimum the MSM has a responsibility not to dance and ballroom with those they investigate for unbiased articles.
To be blunt I suspect in four years W will be at the White House for the unveiling of the Official George W. Bush White House Portrait Unveiling. With President Hillary and and the other members of the Ex-Prez club applauding when they pull the curtain back.
Rusty Shackleford @ 2:
Can they get shittier than bush? I doubt it.
I think he'll be the shittiest president of all time.
Well..."The Smiths go to Washington" of Comment 35, really nailed the Problem of What has Happened to David Gregory...he is married to the Change ...and to the Trouble...lordy....
Now I have to ask John or Nicole- anyone ? Are you going to out up an Open thread while we suffer through these insufferable Hearings...( please please...I won't even curse....)
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steve @ 33:
Yeah, it is. Bush will be regarded as a terrible President even if Iraq turns out great. It's not just where you end up, how you got there is important too.
Bush must call Davy "Stretch" because of the Stretch Marks around Dave's Anus. I'm Hoping that in Fifty Years they'll be Talking About All the War Crimes that Bush's Cabal was Charged With and How Ironic it was that Bush and His Supporters all ended up in the Detention centres that he Had Built for all the "Liberal" Dissenters.Now that would be a Nice read but sadly I won't be Around to read it. LOL
Will he be considered a good president? You mean, if we overlook the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq, and how that invasion and the ensuing bloody occupation of the country last for several years? Oh, well, maybe.
How could you have thought Gregory WASN'T a Kool-aid drinker when he was dancing with Karl Rove? C'mon!
My money is on Schuster. Suggestion: Watch what these freaks say ALL the time, not 40% of the time, or 60%, etc. Gregory punked you -- sure, he seemed hard, sometimes. But that was just to reel you in. And it worked.
It's so freaking amazing to me how mainstream discourse in the USA steers away from acknowledging that the invasion of Iraq was just plain wrong.
Suggestion for next Mathews Q:
In 50 years, will there be anyone left to remember Bush at all?
Well, thank heavens they were able to find a Negro to give an opinion. Now if they could just get themselves an Oriental and an Hispanic I'll feel much more confident that they've got their finger up the butt - I mean - that they're taking the temperature of mainstream media insight.
In fairness to Gregory, he gave some strong caveats and I think the phrasing "could be" gave him some wiggle room to suck up a little. Now, Kathleen Parker on the other hand is so far in the tank for Bush, she could be scrubbing his toilet seats as we speak.
Chet! @ 44:
All great ideas, concepts, art, inventions, what have you didn't come from the mainstream.
L.A. Confidential @ 48:
I have a pretty long mainstream after drinking a six pack of Guiness.
David Gregory is to journalism what Dennis Miller is to comedy.
Weaseldog @ 38:
Should we rename the White House the Out House?
Boring Scott @ 50:
Ooh! Burn!
enigma4ever @ 39:
I used to drink the Kool Aid re: David Gregory -- until something was pointed out to me, and I began watching more closely. As much of a "thorn in the side" Gregory was to press secretaries, strangely little of it made it to the NBC newscast of the evening. Maybe that is not Gregory's fault; perhaps more likely it is NBC News and/or their editors who decide what makes it on the air. But since that was pointed out to me, more and more evidence of Gregory's inside-the-beltway-itis has come forward, such as the MC Rove fiasco. So it becomes more of a question of how much Gregory really fought for his point-of-view to make it to NBC's nightly news, and how much was to make him a hero of Left Blogistan -- I do not ever recall him bringing up the more memorable confrontations at the Press Briefings, even when he was on live. I am probably not the best witness to this as I rarely watch any network news, but even casually there was a large gulf between the morning briefing and what made it to the air.
Oh, God, journalism. Wherefore art thou? And how to get the alternative sources, i.e. The Blogs, to the rest of Americans who don't know it's out there, or think it's some kind of commie conspiracy, based on what they've been told, but nothing that they've read?
Weaseldog @ 38:
In order to imagine it I have to shift my brain into a kind of science fiction mode, like when I'm watching a movie where people travel faster than the speed of light.
ManiaMaaan @ 30:
On MoveOn Targets Katie Couric's Stenography thread
Dominic P. Lucarelli @ 45:
Oh yeah
In 50 years, is it possible Bush will be rated an above-average president?
I can answer that question with a big fat NO FRICKIN' WAY EVER.
The question is not whether Bush will be rated an above average president in 50 years,
but rather will the U.S. be rated an above average democracy in 50 years?
Bushes legacy becomes Americas legacy.
proud liberal @ 59:
Hell, at the rate we're going, we won't even be a democracy in 50 years.
And, oh, yeah - there won't be any polar bears, either.
We lost David when he danced with Rove.
In the last week or so I've seen this reference to kool aid more than once...basically these guys need to be drinking the kool aid, not putting it down. ....of course I assume you are referring to the electric variety...just a note.
Curtilingus @ 3:
Ta da! That was my first thought also.
I've always taken the 'kool-aid' reference to be to the 'Electric Kool-Aid' made famous by Timothy Leary. Since that was spiked with LSD, it would be a hallucinogen, and putting it down instead of drinking it is the correct choice.
If it's a reference to Jim Jones and the People's Temple, then 'kool-aid' becomes a warning about groupthink to the point of suicide, and you would still want to put it down instead of drinking it.
Strange place for the video to end. How did Tweety explain the (mis)perception?
Shell5960w @ 43:
yup.
Will @ 62:
Will, the kool aid reference is not about Timothy Leary and the Merry Pranksters, but of Jim Jones and the Guyana massacre
Interesting. I always thought of Kool-Aid as the Jim Jones fiasco. Not Leary. Although I am old enough to remember Leary.
David Gregory has been inconsistent at best. Yes, he has frequently been a thorn in the side of the Bush administration. He has been one of the few critical voices in the press corp. But Gregory seems asleep at the wheel occasionally far too often letting clearly distorted, disingenuous and deceitful statements go unquestioned.
AF
Chris Matthews a devotee of Bush? OP must not watch Hardball at all because Matthews consistently challenges his guests who try to defend Bush.
Seeing as Mathews is aka "Tweety", from this thread, it appears a good handle for Gregory would be "Dances with Rove". All in favor, sigh...
Jones @ 70:
Matthews fawns over Bush, e.g. "sometimes it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility."
What the Hell? So seeing David Gregory being a sycophantic monkey at the White House Correspondents' Dinner wasn't evidence enough? This guy has spouted right-wing talking points since I can remember. Asking questions at press conferences doesn't automatically qualify you as a "thorn in the administration's side", especially when the person in question obviously has obvious Daddy-issues and hangs on all the "tough talk" from Republicans.
FUCK David Gregory.
The key word is "possible". Heck, that the earth will be hit by a meteor and we all go into extinction within a year is "possible", but not likely.
David Gregory is to MSM as Arlen Spector is to the Senate. Think about it.
I have to agree with conservative Paul Craig Roberts that Bush will be remembered as a mass murderer.
@74 - We lack the advanced exponential mathematics and computing power necessary to calculate the odds of said possibility. Whereas, calculating the possibility of a meteor strike is much simpler. Even flying pigs and a touch of frost in a certain hot place are in the realm of the "possible" by comparison to the future odds of El Senor Presidente Arbusto being seen favorably by historians.
As an aside, if I were a future historian I would be inclined to look favorably on Bush if he spent the rest of his life in Spandau Prison (re-opened specially for him and his special friends). But just barely.
Please feel free to let Chris Matthews know what you think of Mr. Gregory's answer. The more negative email they get on this one, the faster the press will know there are those of us out here who listen, who have followed this war and it's tragic, UNNECESSARY consequences, for a very long time. I wonder how Mr. Gregory would have answered this question if one of his children were serving in Iraq, on a 3rd or 4th tour, or if he were the father of any of the hundreds of thousands of good, INNOCENT Iraqi people killed as a result of a hand full of NeoCon's who lied and manipulated this country into it's most tragic performance of our history... Iraq and the killing of Native Indian tribes... a toss up for the worse time in our History.
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Interesting how 2 of the 3 pundits answered "no" to the question, but both of the guests were in the "yes" column.
So Bush's nobility is that he stubbornly believes that he can save America from threats from around the world by alienating the rest of the world. And there's nothing anyone can do or say, nor any event, that can sway his resolve. Is that a new definition of masculine leadership, or is it the same old thing?
Thirty-five years later, Richard Nixon seems like a good president in comparison to Bush Jr. Nixon's crimes were limited and perpetrated against a handful of other politicians-- the country eventually recovered. Bush has succeeded in limiting the rights of all Americans. Who knows where endless war and authoritarian government will leave us in 35 more years?
Swashbuckler @ 72:
Bingo! Let's also not forget that Matthews fell hook, line, and sinker for the Mission Accomplished aircraft landing.
david gregory showed himself to me when he danced on stage with karl rove as our kids in iraq sweltered.
he's no better than the rest of 'em. sad but true.
I heard gregory say that too. It doesn't surprise me because after I saw him and trud trying to rap and act yo, I knew he was meathead too. There's no such thing as being a little repug. repugs don't make sense at all, there's isn't any consistency to their bullshit.
What's going to happen in 50 years are US citizens will still be paying for chimpy's murderous rampages and the the other bs.
We still don't know what's coming down pike or what other aspect this fool has affected.
chimpy has ruin our government, our laws, the constitution, our freedoms, our institutions, our goodwill, our trust, our civil rights, you name it. And he wants to spread this madness around the world.
and just think: gregory is paid 2 million a year for his 'opinions' and his 'reporting' .. meanwhile the teachers or our kids make about $30,000 a year ... so of course this hemmroid called david gregory is now utterly bent over, pants down, squeaking 'next' to every elephant that passes behind him .. the corporate media in this country should be charged, tried, and convicted in mass for criminal fraud committed against the american people ... and frog marched out the the protection of their corporate studios ...
When Greg first got hooked on the Kool-Aid, his friends tried to conceal their shock. They pleaded with him not to drink the Lime, but to stick to the Cherry, and attend AA meetings.
He's doing the hardcore Lime Kool-Aid enemas now, twice a day...a lost soul.
(I hear he's moving on to 'cheese,' whatever that is. Apparently it comes from Afghanistan via Halliburton).
I'd comment on whether Bush will be viewed positively fifty years from now but my answer might lead the President to label me an "Enemy Combatant" under the Military Commissions Act and have me renditioned to Uzbekistan to be boiled in oil.
And since this fact is barely recognized today I can only hope fifty years from now the historians, unless they too have been labeled "Enemy Combatants", correctly label Bush and the neo-cons as the sociopathic monsters they were.
Biggus Diggus @ 20:
Well said.
Remember when chimpy p00-p00ed the internet? he was lost when he was caught in lies via hyperlinks. he's still lost and doesn't care that his voice and his opinions are useless.
Biggus Diggus @ 20:
Well said.
Remember when chimpy p00-p00ed the internet? he's lost when he's caught in lies via hyperlinks. he's still lost and doesn't care that his voice and his opinions are useless.
blue cayuga @ 78:
Don't forget about the "little stinkers" called slavery, jim crow, katrina.
Bush is an incompetent embarrassment.
Giuliani and Romney are saying that they will keep Bush's policies, but
do a better more competent job than the little Texan has.
Great. Inspirational in fact.
Gregory---yellowbellied panderer. Get a spine, coward.
Good grief wasn't Hitler picked as man of the year. Getting that titile doesn't mean you did good. It just means you made a big impact........and turning the world into a big pile of shit would qualify.
bmw 528 @ 92:
You're saying he's a Democrat? See below.
gregory has always been a stooge. nicole belle confuses standing up to wimps like tony snow to real criticism of the white house. what kool-aid is SHE drinking?
Dream on Tweety.
the only way Bush will be written about favorably is if we don't have a recognizably free country. If we have a repressive fascist dictatorship, then the official story will puff up Bush.
Its about the profiteering, the corruption, the partisan cashing in off terror and mayhem. Its about Blackwater and the oil fields.
Ever dawn on anyone that these guys could be suffering from blackmail?
Bring back Don Imus.
We may not be here in fifty years because of this president.
ALL these clowns work for the military industrial complex , and it's amazing how people are so easily FOOLED, when Gregory seemingly throws a few bones to the left, by questioning (doing his job occasionally ), the Admn.
Gregory " doesn't know how Iraq is going to play out ' , insinuating a good outcome is possible, he's FULL of CRAP.
He knows the Billion Dollar Embassy, ( which is really an CITY, w/ a high tech spying embassy) ain't GOING ANYWHERE, he KNOWS the several BASES, ain't going ANYWHERE. He knows how Iraq is going to turn out, into what it already IS, a fucking OCCUPATION. Waiting for the hydro-carbon laws to change so that U.S. Oil Executives, who are already put on the NEW Oil Ministry Council, are waiting to swoop in and control Iraqs OIL. HE KNOWS ALL THIS and he should KNOW, that Iraq's OIL Workers are on strike, and opposing the new changes forced by bush's henchmen. A fact gone unreported by NBC and the rest of the sycophants .
Or is he just gleefully waiting for a peaceful occupation, is that what these craven, imperialist are waiting for, for the Iraqis just to give up resisting the U.S. occupation.
Does this clown Gregory care that the U.S. is locking up Iraqis and entire cities, with barbwire, check points, ID cards. He reads the same fricken script as everybody else, the Occupation has little to do with the problem, when IT IS THE PROBLEM .
I agree with Kahoneez @ 101. Provided that we are not all blown off the planet in the end, the region that is now known as Iraq will probably at some point in the future prosper. It may be incorrectly attributed to the Bush war in spite of the fact that he and his friends are only in this for personal profit. And as hareli (98) mentions, it could be that the actors we now have pretending to be journalists could be victims of blackmail. Or possibly bought off? We will never know because we are just the little people that the elite use as pawns and will stay that way until we decide to do something about it much like the people who carved out the U.S. Constitution. To obtain and hold on to freedom and the rights that the original patriots gave to us, we will also have to continue to fight.
"But not David Gregory"... ?? What're U NutZ?!!
Anybody who shucks & jives with Karl Rove **ON STAGE!** is a hack!
That is all...
geez gregory at what point did you lose your moral compass and become such a tool of the bush regime. i thought you were bright, articulate and unafraid. clearly i was wrong. you went over to the dark side where you could frolic in the bush garden. what did they promise you??? what could they possibly promise a man to make him give up his soul.
maybe it's time to take off the gloves.
Future historians making the judgement that the Bush Administration was above average? If so, this would be a future much different from the one the founding fathers contemplated with their great experiment in democracy, and the one that each of us fights every day to preserve.
It is said that history is written by the victors. If a history is written that judges the days of the Bush Administration anything other than the blackest days in American democracy, it will be because the American people were not up to the challenge set for them by our founding fathers.
David Gregory was on stage when Rove rapped - I think that's a good indication of how firmly his lips are pressed to the asses of this Administration so I don't get how he's a big thorn - maybe b/c he doesn't give a reach around?
david gregory is just plain crazy. he knows these guys are lying about everything, he KNOWS it! and he doesn't like it. and he thinks they're great. and he supports them. crazy.
Sounds like a deep conversation about nothing of obvious value.
Or as they say in the industry "fiiler time".
Yes, Barney Rubble should put down the Kool-Aid and the microphone, and get back to dancing...
IN 50 years, who will come to the minds of those still alive, when the phrase" Worst President Ever" is said?
Bush.
Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 111:
Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 111:
To the minds of historians, yes. The rest will say "Bush? Isn't that our current president?" "No Bubba, our current president is G.W. Bush the 7th. They were talking about G.W. Bush the 1st"
Sorry, that was a little pessimistic. Let me try again: "Bush? I can't even remember who I voted for this time around. How the hell you expect me to know who Bush was"
Uh, I guess that wasn't so optimistic either. Never mind...
We bash FOX all the time for NOT being balanced…
David Gregory of ALL people has gone out of his way
to go after the BUSH Admin… and you say he is Drinking the Kool Aid
That is BULL.
He could be correct … i don’t think that he is … but it is not
a crazy opinion.
The same with the bashing of Chris Matthews …. people here seem
to pay NO attention when he goes after the Right but wine
when he goes after the left????
david gregory is a fucking zionist -- through and through. like perle, libby, kristol, koppel... etc etc etc. in fact, an enemy of the united states constitution and america's national security. and... as such: a traitor --- period!
I really can't think of any examples throughout history where something deemed a failure at the time, later turned out to be viewed as pretty good. Generally, the exact opposite occurs. Using this logic, Eddie Murphy's singing career will be viewed as a huge success at some point over the next three decades.
With this LUDICROUS LOGIC, one would suppose that Adolph Hitler (bite my tongue) should
also be considered Great., after all he had a vision, that put the world through one hell of mess (to put it mildly), and hey, we're still here. I suppose Vietnam would be considered one great success, never mind they are still under a Communist regime. --
It is not surprising to me, that those that will sell out their childrens' souls for a buck, let alone their own, namely Matthews, and this David Gregory, would say it is possible Bush would be remembered better. What the ...do they care? they'll be dead, as well, but live a good life until they croak. If their descendants, down the line don't fair so well, well, that
is too bad, and their descendans' tough luck. Mattthews even implies that he agrees that Bush has
a vision, similar to Churchill's. I don't think so. A) I don't buy the WWII comparison in any shape or form, B) I don't buy the WWII comparison in any shape or form. THIS IS A DISGRACE. But hey, all that matters now is how $$$$, sex, and $$$., remember the 6 miners decomposing in Utah anyone?
Reply to #116, you are correct! How about Paris Hilton, for God's sake, with this logic
she'll be considered another Beverly Sills in 50 years.
Answer To #104., Gregory went over to the dark side and now besides showing how
white men clearly cannot dance :) == saw the green "lettuce" waved under his nose.
Mucho dinero., more than we'll ever see in a lifetime of working/ that's what he is, or
will be making for going over to the dark side, in one year. Probably will trade up in trophy wife as he gets older, as well. That is the true American religion. $$$$$$$$ === Glad I never had children and fear for the future of my 7 month niece and children in the future...
One example, that matters to me: 'what was snow like?'......or rain, for that matter., while they have another corporate dunce head for president.
I watched this show live -- am I the only one?-- and after D. Gregory gave that answer, I swear I screamed to the screen: STOP DRINKING THEIR KOOL-AID!
David
David
David
What happened to you?
Cat Atomic @ 7:
Maybe he dropped it after THE President of the United States on camera at a outdoor press conference personally threatened David's children?
Gregory's comments about Bush's legacy are really sad. If Gregory is what passes for a liberal member of the mainstream press, then our nation is doomed.
Just as Bush made Nixon look good, without reform of the money and business influences in politics we will continue to have crap leadership, until people get sick of it and vote for change.
Gregory has been Bought and Paid for a long time ago.
He is nothing more then a ASS-Kissing Idiot!
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