Glenn Beck: "Jesus and Hitler had a lot in common"
It's unbelievable that he said it, but it's not as bad as it sounds. It's just Beck's authoritarian mind at work, in a really bizarre false equivalency way. In a discussion that revolves around honesty, comedian D.L. Hughley bemoans the lack of a clear front-runner in the presidential race. Beck equates that with his notion of electing based on Cult of Personality:
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BECK: ...(Y)ou`re saying that people want somebody that they just think they have all the answers. I`m saying that...
HUGHLEY: No. That`s who we voted for, who we always voted for.
BECK: OK.
HUGHLEY: I`m saying that that seems to be who we vote for.
BECK: I think people want somebody who have room for doubt, but also have the confidence. I think Jesus Christ and Hitler had a lot in common, and that was they could both look you in the eye and say, "I`ve got an answer for you, follow me." One was evil; one was good. But they both could look you in the eye and have an answer for you. There are very few politicians right now that can look you in the eye and you believe it.
Again, with this kind of incisive political thought, I must ask the question: Why does Glenn Beck have his own show?
Holy Frist.
How in the world does this guy know Hitler's and Jesus' patterns of eye contact? It's awfully presumptious too. Besides, if you did a tally of all the people killed in the name of Jesus he might outdo Adolf. Now, which one was "good"?
greg white @ 2:
:( was about to make a similar remark.
///snark
He doesn't say which one was good and which one was evil.
Good point, Beck.
The only thing dearer to Hitler than the swasitka was his WWJD bracelet.
...and the point is?
Look at in another way. Christ forever embolized the spirit of foregivness and encouraging peaceful brotherhood, and at the same more people died in his name than any figurehead in history. Even Hitler.
I'm betting the religious right eats him alive for saying that.
Yeah, and they are both Aryan Blue-Eyed White Guys, according to
all the pictures you see in the Evangelical Churches?
What, Jesus was a JEW?
Did anyone tell Beck that yet? He's going to have trouble explaining
THAT to the base....
greg white @ 2:
Be easy on Beck. He's under the impression that Gibson's The Passion was a brilliant documentary film.
Beck should know...he has extensively followed Hitler's path for a long time...
I think he confused Jesus with his twisted megachurch god-for-profit blasphemous right wingnuttery kill em'all let God sort them brand of fascist christianity...
I love right wingnuts...they're the only morons that believe their messiah would have owned a .50 caliber, a useless Hummer, hated everyone not like him, and thought that pre-emptive war is what God wants....
See...what happens when you read the Bible and then allow yourself to believe the right wingnut noise machine and their 'biblical' interpretative justifications for all the evil they strive for or create....
Dude, Olbermann's got a shitload of material tonight for "Worst Person In The World".
greg white @ 2:
If I kill someone in your name does that mean you're to blame?
DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 12:
I'm betting the head of Iran gets 2nd and Beck gets 1st.
WashStateBlue @ 9:
owned!
Beck is a class a asshole most of the time, but he was right here. This was one of his less embarassing moments, which says alot.
Oh ... NOW I get it .... ?????????
How do such Dim-witted jerks get TV shows that pay them millions? WTF !
I do kind of agree with Joe ( #7 ) up above though. More have been killed in the name of Jayzus than hitler.
Jurassic Pork at Pottersville has posted something that looks pretty much like a suicide not. Might be a good time to go give him some support and compassion. NOW.
What about these parallels??
* They both were tradesmen. (Paper hanger/carpenter)
* They both the same logo. (Kinda)
*They both drew big crowds. (Sermon on the Mount/Nuremburg)
The internet(s) is full of good stuff on the subject. This guy agrees with Beck. There's even a film about it.
Gee, I think Beck's onto something.
Becks just dropping names to advance his own agenda. Anyone with half a brain knows that.
Glenn Beck has nothing to say, nothing.
please, no more of this chump. Even if he says something really mean and stupid. I can't take it I tell ya.
Let me explain something to Mr. Beck. Jesus was the Martin Luther King-Gandhi-every great soul there ever was all wrapped up into one package that spent all his life teaching the little guy, the poor, the inncocent, the condemned and the disenfranchised how to not let your soul be stolen from you by the corrupt of his time.
He wasn't working to advance the agenda of the Roman Empire.
AbbeyHoffmansGhost @ 21:
Hughley is right on the money. Character is what you do in the dark and by that measure Republicans are completely in the dark. They lie, cheat, steal, launch private armies to bully other nations in the name of the United States condemning innocent people to their deaths. I have no doubt that eventually Blackwater will be turned on us. They methodically rape the environment and, like a flock of vultures, gorge themselves on the spoils of war. The term "morally bankrupt" doesn't even begin to describe how corrupt and dangerous conservatives have become.
Jesus Hitler
Adolf Christ
Is this the second coming
Or the fourth Reich?
Of course if Beck has ever looked Jesus in the eye, he should consider staying away from the hallucinagenics.
bush & hitler have the most in common.
Listening to Beck is worse than fingernails on the chalkboard. I hate to even surf by the channel when he is on, it might give him a ratings bump for a couple of seconds.
Beck didn't just shoot himself in the foot - he blew his whole leg off.
And, of course, it's Clinton's fault.
Maybe this is a good thing in that it will finally get that idiot fired.
So was CNN line of thinking when looking at Faux Noise that Faux's success was because they had such total idiots as anchors so CNN went out and found and even bigger idiot than anyone at Faux?
My Gawd - you US Americans are hilarious!
Beck's comment was stupid and C&L reaction was just as stupid!
But great entertainment for those of us in a country with some adults in it - who are quickly realizing how completely irrelevant the US has become!
CD @ 8:
I'm betting all he has to do is tell a couple of tasteless fag-bashing jokes and all is forgiven.
The religious right is like your stupid friend who doesn't care how much you hate him. As long as you take him down to the Circle K for soda and gum every once in awhile, he'll do anything stupid you ask him to. Steal someone's bike. Beat some little kid up. Play chicken with a semi truck. Doesn't matter. He's fucking stupid and he's a joke to you, but he's got nobody else to play with. So every once in awhile you voice your true opinion. "Go jump in front of that bus, you dipshit!"
How else to explain their literally religious devotion to the GOP that has failed to put prayer in schools, abortionists in jail, and Darwin out in the gutter.
Boy, that guy's dumb.
Please post some of Olbermann's show from today so i can at least see a part of it.
slippytoad @ 32:
HEY ... Back Off ... They have done plenty of harm, Hell, they can't be perfect.
I keep thinking some one at a news network is going to realize that there is a large underserved market for progressives, of reality based news..
And that corporate group think is keeping them at bay.
Ted Turner, if he were dead, would be turning in his grave...
Actually Jesus and Hitler did have a lot in common. They both burn people they don't like.
Okay, that shyt should get him kicked off the air. With an assist from the comedian-turned-house-Negro, D. L. Hughley.
What would Hitler do?
Johnny2Bad @ 19:
Plus.......
Hitler was a mean Water Polo player (despite the horses always drowning)
and Jesus played Quaterback for the Jerusalem Jewsters.
If a liberal made such a comparison, the reich-wing MSM would be completely imploding.
Dr. Matt @ 39:
WWHD ... LOL
Johnny2Bad @ 19:
Neither ate pork.
Canuknotusa @ 31:
Unfortunately Bush has the Nuclear Football within reach at all times. Pointed at you. Even here though most of if not all of us are considered fodder, collateral, taking up space, useless eaters, the burden of the unorganized masses. What have you.
Judging the truth by the look in the speaker's eye ( a kind of informal polygraph ) is how the blind lead the blind. A physics professor friend of mine once said that the more you know the more you know you don't know. The scientists are being careful not to misrepresent the truth or speak about htings they don't know for sure. The reich wing just pulls feces out of their ass to throw at you.
Hitler had a better tailor and probably smelled nicer. Beyond that they were both charlatans (imo of course).
Things like stock market prices, miniature golf scores, post-drugged semen levels, and chronic back pain and flatulence can fluctuate naturally and may regress towards the mean and uncalled for. The logical flaw is to make predictions that expect exceptional results to continue as if they were the average, a representativeness heuristic if I ever saw one! People are most likely to take action when dissent, like morning wood, is at its peak. Then after results become more normal or less turgid, they believe that their action was the cause of the change when in fact it was not causal, wherein cohesion between objects of similar silly appearance is assumed. While often very useful in everyday life, it can also result in neglect of relevant base rates and volumes, an inability to play funk, and other errors. Another snag you may encounter involves describing some occurrence in vivid detail, even if it is an exceptional occurrence, to convince someone that it is a problem, when, throughout my garbled history, it’s been commonly identified again and again that, if the nuns of the order of Sisters of Saint Joseph are to be believed, I am the one with the “problem”. Though misleading vividness does nothing to support an argument logically, it can have a very strong psychological effect because of a cognitive forceful brainwashing called the availability heuristic. Another area that needs to be dealt with in a timely and thorough manner is several references in my late Elementary/Junior-high phase of mutational development, otherwise known as the "Parade of horribles", originally referred to as a literal parade of people wearing comic and grotesque costumes, rather like the Philadelphia Mummers Parade or my yearly family reunion. It was a traditional feature of Fourth-of-July parades in dismal parts of the U. S. in the nineteenth century without indoor plumbing. A 1926 newspaper article about July Fourth celebrations in the White Mountains of New Hampshire notes “Old-time celebrations are to be held tomorrow at Littleton, Lancaster, Colebrook, and Conway, with all the usual features of street parades of horribles and grotesques, brass balls bands, decorated automobiles and vehicles, dance exhibitions by fire departments, basket picnics in convenient small groves, finger-sniffing contest sponsored by the local Catholic diocese, and the regional dwarf tossing semi-finals...”. And to further enlighten and confuse, in Hesse’s “Steppenwolf”, the protagonist affirms that the men of the Dark Ages (see “Living at Virginia’s house”) did not suffer more than those of the Classical Antiquity (see “Attending Catholic school in the 60’s”), and vice-versa. It is rather those who live between two times, those who do not know what to follow, that suffer the most. In this token, a man from Virginia’s house attending Catholic school, or the opposite, would undergo a gulping sadness and agony.
Why does Glenn Beck have his own show?
Oh I don't know, could it be that he sounds alot like Sylvester the Cat??????
Ok! I call Jesus for the progressives and the conservatives can claim Hitler!
:)
I kid. Nobody is Jesus or Hitler except Jesus and Hitler.
Yeesh! C'mon, Beck; this is goofy even for you.
he sketch:
(Cut to a kitchen. A man and woman listening to a radio.)
Radio Voice: I would like to ask the team what they would do if they were Hitler.
Man's Voice: Gerald?
Another Voice: Well I'd annex the Sudetenland and sign a non-aggression pact with Russia.
First Man's Voice: Norman?
Norman's Voice: Well I'd do the Reichstag bathroom in purples and golds and ban abortion on demand.
Woman: (switching the radio off) Liberal rubbish. Klaus ... what do you want with your jugged fish?
Man: Halibut.
Woman: The jugged fish is halibut.
Man: What fish have you got that isn't jugged, then?
Woman: Rabbit.
Man: What? Rabbit fish?
Woman: Yes. It's got fins.
Man: Is it dead?
Woman: Well, it was coughing up blood last night. -from Monty Python's Flying Circus
Carl Gordon @ 47:
Dude. Up your meds.
Gabe @ 16:
Yeah... what he said was correct and spot on, but it was a shitty way of saying it.
People will always fall for a leader who is decisive and confident in what he believes in... even if what he believes in is total bullshit. This is why people get turned off by "flip-floppers", and why as many people voted for Bush in the first place.
Context Nicole! As usual, of course :)
LOL I just found out that Beck is a Mormon.
The LDS Church is going to be pissed off at Beck.
Johnny2Bad @ 51:
DEaL! How about more Python?
"Gavin Millarrrrrrrrrr [John Cleese] writes:
Neville Shunt's latest West End Success, "It all Happened on
the 11.20 from Hainault to Redhill via Horsham and Reigate,
calling at Carshalton Beeches, Malmesbury, Tooting Bec and
Croydon West," is currently appearing at the Limp Theatre,
Piccadilly. What Shunt is doing in this, as in his earlier nine
plays, is to express the human condition in terms of British
Rail.
Some people have made the mistake of seeing Shunt's work as a
load of rubbish about railway timetables, but clever people
like me who talk loudly in restaurants see this as a deliberate
ambiguity, a plea for understanding in a mechanised mansion.
The points are frozen, the beast is dead. What is the
difference? What indeed is the point? The point is frozen, the
beast is late out of Paddington. The point is taken. If La
Fontaine's elk would spurn Tom Jones the engine must be our
head, the dining car our aesophagus, the guards van our left
lung, the cattle truck our shins, the first class compartment
the piece of skin at the nape of the neck and the level
crossing an electric elk called Simon. The clarity is
devastating. But where is the ambiguity? Over there in a box.
Shunt is saying the 8.15 from Gillingham when in reality he
means the 8.13 from Gillingham. The train is the same, only the
time is altered. Ecce homo, ergo elk. La Fontaine knew its
sister and knew her bloody well. The point is taken, the beast
is moulting, the fluff gets up your nose. The illusion is
complete; it is reality, the reality is illusion and the
ambiguity is the only truth. But is the truth, as Hitchcock
observes, in the box? No, there isn't room, the ambiguity has
put on weight. The point is taken, the elk is dead, the beast
stops at Swindon, Chabrol stops at nothing, I'm having
treatment and La Fontaine can get knotted."
L.A. Confidential @ 44:
bubba @ 46:
I don't think we can even assume that much about Jesus. For all we know he was just a preacher who spouted metaphors and all the absurd miracles, claims to be the offspring of God and every other supernatural claim by Jesus was made up by his followers and reinforced by the church and councils of Nicea and from translations errors/changes.
They are both similar in that I wouldn't follow either one of them out of burning building.
CD @ 54:
But they don't believe in Jesus!... well, according to the knuckle-dragging drooling fundamentalists.
"Why does Glenn Beck have his own show?"
The same reason innocent children get terminal cancer and Dick Cheney continues to live.
If Beck heard a Liberal say that Hitler and Jesus had a lot in common he would ignore the context entirely and go straight for the jugular.This is where the difference lies in the "debate" between Left and Right.We still play fair-they DO NOT.
I'm much more interested in the quote: "Character is what you do in the dark" Wow... I'm gonna hang my hat on that one for awhile.
WashStateBlue @ 9:
Hitler & Christ were the only two people exempted by name from the Nazi laws defining Jewishness.
CensoredFan @ 48:
He's paid to distract. You don't think the media is actually operating to inform do you?
The bible is filled with bigotry against homosexuals and Hitler killed homosexuals during the Holocaust. Christianity spawned anti-semitism through blaming the jews for the cruxification during the dark ages, which was used as the rationale behind nazism. We don't know everything that Jesus believed, but it was irresponsible of him not to condemn slavery and homophobia among other things. He should have spoken more directly so his followers wouldn't get mixed messages.
L.A. Confidential @ 63:
This pic of Miss America distracts me. Glen Beck is paid to disinform me. Symantics, I know. But I've been wating for an opening to share that photo.
NiceNCool1 @ 37:
What the sh*t?
Explain that.
3waygeek @ 62:
I think there were a few other high ranking Nazis that were exempt but I agree with you're general idea.
well......he's right. just because it's glenn beck saying it makes it worthy of putting on this site? come on......
Blue Buddha @ 58:
Acording to the knuckle draggers virtualy no ones a Christian.
joe @ 66:
I think it's a dig at the theology that says that sinners/unbelievers burn in Hell at Jesus' command.
Canuknotusa @ 31:
But we still have The Stanley Cup.
And if you don't stop being pompous, we'll keep it.
Hitler fought back.
Jesus just took it.
Beck can have his own show because he knows how to get lots of free publicity, like he did right here, and people keep falling for it.
The cost of sandals in Judea circa 30 AD?
1 shekel
The cost of a swastika armband circa 1933?
2 Deutsche Marks
The cost of Glenn Beck saying, on tape, Jesus and Hitler had a lot in common 2007?
PRICELESS!
joe @ 66:
Hitler burned the Jews. Jesus is supposedly god who made the rules that leave a majority of humanity to burn for all eternity in Hell according to the Bible. Now that's not to difficult to understand now is it?
MR. Bill @ 70:
Thankyou, yes it is and it's a very valid dig to.
I hate to say it, but Beck was trying to make a point, though he mangled it somewhat. When Moveon produced their ad, Republicans saw nothing but "betray" so they lost the point. When we look at this, we only see "Jesus and Hitler had a lot in common" so we look like fools by twisting words out of context in a similar fashion. I don't want to get down in the "outrage" gutter by twisting words, I would prefer to be outraged over real things.
Wow, it's like Ralph Wiggums got his own show.
"Why does Glenn Beck have his own show?"
Because he's paid to squawk this inane bullshit.
For people who don't think this shit works. It distracts. It reinforces predisposition.
...
Tom (Not Tom) @ 77:
I can actualy hear Ralph saying what Beck said!
:lol:
Oooh look. the dipshit's trying to get his fat head around the concept of objective morality and why it poisons society.
And he failed miserably.
Hitler's Nazism was the culmination of almost 2000 years of Christian bigotry, ignorance and antisemitism. In addition to persecuting the Jews, Hitler also targeted the gays, atheists and the occult practicing Gypsies, basically the same people Christians had been persecuting for almost 2000 years. Like any "good Christian", he wasn't afraid to torture or murder in large numbers in order to promote his "righteous" cause. Christians often try to claim that Hitler was an atheist. No, no. He's one of your boys.
joe @ 66:
I suppose Hitler didn't really burn people...
Chris @ 82:
He had it done. There's little difference.
Wow, maybe Glenn Beck isn't such a fucking moron afterall. "Good" or "bad", there are indeed people throughout history who have a hypnotizing, magical effect on people... be it Jesus, or Hitler, or Jim Jones, or L. Ron Hubbard, or Robert Tilton, or Glenn Beck! Sure, there are charismatic people who can capture people's attention and will and what not... intelligent people can see them for what they are, learn what they can, and discard the rest. I think the real evil here is the whole, "I'll take this on faith" concept... Regardless of whether your ideology is "good" or "evil"...
Somewhere in the dark, backstage area, before the start of the show, O'Reilly leans toward Beck and says: "I know what we can do today (giggle) -- equate Christ with Hitler!". Beck: "Genius!"
He still has a SHOW?
And an AUDIENCE???
NiceNCool1 @ 84:
A little?
The whole Heaven/Hell thing is based on beliefs and beliefs can change.
Hitler murdered children based on race which can't be changed.
Again, just imagine left-leaning pundit/host making a comparison of Hitler and Jesus.
Ms. Malkin would publish his home address, Mr. O'Reilly would condemn him as the "worst sort of vile, liberal scum," and Glen Beck would say he was thinking about killing him.
Err...
GLENN: Okay... Take the fact that Jesus and The Riddler had a lot in common- they both spoke in parables and wore funny hats- right?
DL: Jesus didn't wear a hat.
GLENN: No?
DL: No.
GLENN: Okay... Take the fact that Jesus and uh... Jesus and the KKK have a lot in common- they both wore white sheets and carried around a cross- right?
DL: Just shut up, Glenn.
GLENN: Whoah! WWJD, DL! Why you say that? We're just talkin', rappin' it here my brotha. Havin' a bit of convo. Layin' it down in da real world my main man. Where's the love?
DL: It obviously died on the cross with Jesus you fool.
Anonymouse @ 90:
And then there would be the fans who would decapitate the pundit's dog, throw rocks at their children, make hundreds of bomb threats...etc.
What’s the deal?! Clearly Glen saw a pertinent and current parallel that need the dots connected. Some people never waiver from looking at the camera when giving a speech regardless their knowledge of contents. He sees this as a meaningful thing and potentially a method of not only judging character but more-so judging a human sole. Don't you see the relevance? Think lads think! Who else in the last few, ok more than few now, years has fit this bill? HA! OK, and what was the it the former of the two examples espouse? Clearly the later example applies to the present. No?
Is the message clear now or do you need more spelling lessons!
What if Jesus and Hitler had a stare-down? Who would end up following whom? And what does it say about me that I would not be fooled into following either one of them? Maybe that I'm not a total tool like Glenn Beck and all his Christian conservative -- followers?
Jesus is just like Hitler. I'm so with him on that one. As an atheist, I honestly don't see much of a difference between the two of them....
Jerry @ 95:
:|
So stupid.
Thank God a "Librul" hadn't compared Jesus to Hitler, because we all know the 25%ERs® would all be clutching their pearls and issuing fatwahs against the "Librul" responsible for such blasphemous remarks.
Why does CNN hate America?
Dear CNN,
How does it feel to have this mouth-breather on every day? Do you like getting the same ratings as a test pattern?
repugs can look you straight in the eye and lie.
He should be banned from making analogies for life.
Only in this idiot's pea brain.
I just got here and i am too tired to read the thread so forgive me if this has already been said, but...
A leader can lead you to the Promised Land or over a cliff. Trust me when i tell you this is NOT an equal 50-50 chance. Your best bet is to stop following.
Wait a minute...let's be fair though.. He said "one was evil and one was good." Assuming he meant Hitler was evil, what's actually wrong with saying that they were both leaders? They did have that in common, actually. Also, I don't watch this guy on telly, only on C&L, but didn't he agree with Hughley that W was incompetent, with a little Hmm Hmm? Not all bad this time IMHO.
Martin Caidin, in addition to 'Cyborg', on which 'The Six Million Dollar Man' TV show was based, also wrote 'The Messiah Stone'.
Martin alleged Jesus had it. Hitler too.
Patent fiction.
I'd dinner with him in 1991 at a fly-in in Lakeland, Fl, and asked him about the stone.
He wouldn't fess up that it was fiction. I enjoyed trying to get him to.
In his books, it ended up with Doug Stavers -inside him actually which made him the power source of an interplanetary starship. ahem.
The Jesus-Hitler comparison of charisma isn't new.
Martin was a well-entranched card-carrying member of military culture. That seems to be a common factor... (Doug Stavers would've been Dick Marcinko's best friend and made Erik Prince his poodle had he been real.)
Undermining military culture is the wrong tack, i.e.; highlighting buffoonery.
Rather, highlight it's real and patent dangers first and foremost, and so undermine it's promotion by anyone, buffoon or not.
I'm glad Martin Caidin isn't here to see these days.
On the other hand, I have to wonder what he'd do.
He had tremendous charisma himself. I liked the guy and enjoyed his many many books, both the serious and the silly.
Jerry @ 95:
The main difference is Hitler killed countless innocent people. Whereas Jesus's followers like Bush and the Eric Rudolph's of the world kill innocents in their crusades and in Jesus's name.
OxyCon @ 97:
...and they would all be wetting their beds over God's impending wrath.
The truth of the matter is that Jesus was probably some poor homeless person who helped people...you know, the kind of person conservatives pass on the streets everyday without even giving the time of day let alone any assistance...and now all these mega christian churches have sprouted up like kudzu across the country whose parishioners drive to in their planet destroying SUV's worshiping this guy,
Kinda funny....and sad....when you think about it.
Ruthless People @ 105:
You do notice the followers part right?
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It's great to see some forward-thinkers on here unabashedly labeling *all* Christians, conservatives, and republicans as (a) completely synonymous, (b) "planet-killers", and (c) ignorant. I'm sure many of you will feel the great urge to reply with a simple "they are". Aren't you just so witty!
Note: Jesus was a pacifist. He advocated very communist-esque policies. And to my knowledge, he never addressed homosexuality, and if that's the case it would be pretty presumptuous to say you know what he thought about it. And, the Bible is one of the most historically corroborated documents of the ancient world. Sorry, it just is.
Mr Beck has his own show because he, like Hitler or Jesus can look you in the eye and give you an answer, it may be a batshit insane answer but he'll give it, with a straight face and no apologies.
I can do it too, I just cant shake my self respect.
... Ok, he just managed to offend me not just as a liberal, but also as a believer in Jesus Christ. That's just...
... wow.
Why DOES Glenn Beck have his own show?
Ben @ 110:
Right on.
Jesus was the one who said "If a man strikes you, turn and offer him the other cheek" - if that doesn't scream 'man of peace'; I don't know what does. And yes, Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. In fact, there is only *one* place in the Bible where Homosexuality is expressly forbidden, and its in Leviticus, a book where almost every other stricture is ignored, because they're simply asinine. Every other instance, including the infamous Sodom and Gammora - rape, incest, and abuse.
There was ONE time that Jesus ever became violent. And that was at the moneychangers in the temple, the people essentially trying to sell God's grace. Look around at the modern church and you'll see A LOT of moneychangers.
Beck's comments reveal a lot, that in the right's conception of Jesus, there is actually not much difference.
As a non-Christian a I wholly appreciate Jesus's revolutionary message that not just undermined the very basis of violence, but also the idea of power over other people. It is this repudiation that marks him as the most radical figure of the era, more so than the zealots who were just trying to replace Roman temporal rule with their own parochial group.
It is the greatest evil that this prince of peace was turned into a holy warrior. It's time take Jesus back, IMHO.
I ran into Glenn in the Union Station in DC this last Saturday. All I heard him say was "American values," although I think I caught him saying "I'm going to rape and sodomize American values until we all speak German." Something like that.
"I think Jesus Christ and Hitler had a lot in common"
me too, both were men of faith
Jesus had documented anger management issues. Awkwardly enough for the American religion business the instance that comes to mind was when he drove the moneychangers out of the temple.
what a maroon.
Actually, this appears to be a rather simplistic restatement of Carl Schmitt's concept of the 'Sovereign dictator' as an expression of truly democratic government. It is perhaps not so surprising that Schmitt became - for a time - the Nazis favorite philosopher, though as an intellectual he still wound up in a concentration camp. As to comparing Hitler to Jesus, well, Hitler rather routinely (and heavy-handedly) projected himself as an devout Christian, so I'm sure he'd be pleased at the comparison:
“My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross." -- Adolf Hitler (speech delivered at Munich, April 12, 1922)
Glenn Beck and my asshole have a lot in common.
This is how right wing ideas get floated. The next thing you know, all the right wingers will be saying the same thing. Jesus and fascism will be linked (in a good way, you see). It's Christian to be a fascist. It's American to be Christian. Therefore it's American to be a fascist. QED.
Cantor de Mambo @ 121:
Read between the lines and that's already being said by the Rush Limbaughs of the world. Then again, the original fascists (Mussolini, Franco, Hitler) were all saying it about their own nationalism (Italian/Spaniard/German) so it is not so new, just new to us.
CD @ 89:
Jewish isn't a race. It's a religion. Religions are beliefs and, as you said, beliefs can be changed.
Why do the desperate reslugs have Beck on being he is a complete ignorant, idiot.
You know, Beck is a total tool. But regarding this issue, he's also totally right. Assuming you believe that Jesus was a real person, he was a forceful, charismatic leader who could convince people to follow him with an appeal to emotion. Hitler did the same thing. So get over it. I think their are a million things to gripe at Beck about, this isn't one of them.
Beck is fixated on Hitler because. . .?
Jesus if he existed was a Jew.
Hitler did exist, and murdered Jews.
No equivalency and no need to compare relative values of views.
Dr. Matt @ 43:
So worship Him:
http://www.mlive.com/cgi-bin/prxy/weblog_photos/nph-cache.cgi/cache=3000...
Speaking as a former Mormon, they heavily identify with the Jews. They believe everyone in the world decended from one of the 12 tribes of Israel.
They believe the Gospels disappeared on Earth after the Ascension of Jesus, that there was a general "Falling Away," and a Restoration through Joseph Smith.
This guy:
http://josephsmithconferenceloc.byu.edu/Images/JosephSmith.jpg
I'm not getting what the fuss is about, either. Beck is certainly a lazy, ignorant and bigoted fool, but as far as the boldface statement goes, he was as right as he needed to be. He didn't equate Jesus and Hitler beyond supposing similar charisma.
LOL - wow, I say everyone who's upset here is exactly where the media wants you to be: reading way too much into every little word. If ya pull back and look at what he's really saying you'd see he meant both men were very influential to a large group of people because they inspired confidence. Bottom line is: I wouldn't wanna play against either of them in a game of poker. :)
For a controversial public figure like Beck to make a remark that looks so bad when taken out of context is indeed stupid.
But for so many people here to take that remark out of context is even stupider.
Beck had made the point that Americans want to vote for somebody who seems charismatic and sure of himself, and was now tempering it with the point that just because such a leader can look you in the eye and claim to have the right answers doesn't mean he's not horribly wrong.
If the voting public hadn't taken so long to understand that second point, the 2000 and 2004 elections would have gone much better. Bush still doesn't understand it; it's basically the exact opposite of "I looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul."
I actually agree with pecker head on this one!
Maybe Beck just listened to Terrell's "On the Wings of Dirty Angels" CD. Where it states this in song.
tell me, when jesus says (and i'm paraphrasing), "i am the only way to the kingdom of heaven," how is that not fascist?
beck's a boob at best, but i'd say it's the extreme followers of christ and hitler who have a lot in common
Well, yes, Christ and Hitler did have something in common...they were both insane. Hitler was a megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, and Christ was a schizophrenic who thought he was talking to imaginary supernatural beings.
And the world suffered and continues to suffer because of their idiocy.
Jesus was charismatic? Yeah, one can just look into those eyes and be totaly mesmerized. So who here was the last one to look into the Jesus eyeballs? Is Glenn Beck doing too much lophophora williamsii or what?
juanchopancho @ 137:
Talk about a mesmeristic Jesus
http://users.auracom.com/tournier/belajc.jpg
First of all, there's the whole stupidity of blaming Jesus for what evil assholes did in his name. Hitler caused the deaths of millions intentionally and knowing full well what he was doing. Jesus caused no deaths, and if you don't believe he is God -- which your crack leads me to believe -- then you can't blame him for what assholes did after Jesus died. You also discount all the good that is done in Jesus's name, when there was next to nothing good that happened in Hitler's name.
The next reason why it's a piece of shit comment is that Beck is a piece of shit himself. He's not even smart enough to put his comparisons in order. He mentions Jesus and Hitler in that order, then mentions bad and good in that order. His syntax indicates he is calling Jesus bad and Hitler good, which knowing Beck may actually be what he intended.
Doesn't Beck know you can't critize Hitler because he was in the German Military (in World War I as a corporal and World War II as Commander in Chief) ergo he's off limits to criticism according to the GOP?
and so does Beck and Hitler.
NiceNCool1 @ 123:
Really?
Then why are some people refered to as half Jewish? or a 1/4 Jewish?
When is CNN going to lose that asshat?? Seems like his 5 minutes of fame was up a long time ago.
So...were the Beatles more popular than Hitler?
CD @ 13:
Of course not. Christ's message was dumbed-down, because few were at the level he was, among other reasons (power, treasure). He would have been appalled at how the Church has used his name, since Constantine banned the Gnostic Gospels during the Council of Nicea in AD 325. Check them out sometime, if you want to see Christ's real message. He was a mystic, and few in the West get to that level and stay there. The Christian right is at a very low level of awareness, needless to say.
Beck is clearly lazy. He only takes his "insight" so far. He offers up the comparison and laments the fact that no current politician is on their footing. He virtually dares politicians to emulate these "heroes." So, tell me, how will you know whether the politician's eyes that are looking you straight in the face are the eyes of Jesus or Hitler?
Only in Glenn Becks' twisted mind could an analogy between Hitler and Jesus Christ be made. I mean really, where does he come up with this shit?
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