South Park: Imaginationland
By John Amato Thursday Oct 25, 2007 1:45pm
Leave it to South Park to dig deep inside the mind of a Neocon-right wing warblogger:
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General: Do you realize what's going on here? Terrorists have attacked our imagination and now our imaginations are running wild.
Pure genius. The military uses fantasy as their ultimate weapon....Quick, give up your civil liberties---allow torture and rendition...You can catch highlights here...
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Here's some more fantasy. FEMA staged a press conference Tuesday, the only problem was they had FEMA employees acting as the reporters asking the questions. Dana Perino said the white house would never do anything like that. I guess she doesn't know about our old friend the male hooker/white house reporter.
South Park has been so far ahead of the general public for so long. That's the only thing about the show that isn't funny. When cartoon characters catch on before humans do, we got trouble. :)
South Park consistently puts out a right-wing message when it comes to Bush and the war. There's yet to be one questioning on the show of the wisdom of the Iraq war -- instead they've tackled issues like Ward Churchill and pretentious hybrid drivers. There's never a genuine satire of Bush's mistakes. Even the Simpsons is cutting edge in comparison. Matt and Trey seemed so angry at the LA liberals they live among that they gladly support the right's status quo.
Yes, Dana Purina is quick to tell you not to believe your lying eyes. Meow. I wonder if anyone ever told her that she lies when she's cute.
"All human actions are equivalent . . . and . . . all are, on principle, doomed to failure."
Theatre of the Absurd, to be sure.
I love South Park. But if there is anything they rarely do, it's go after the right wing. Even here they do it with subtlety. They've gone after Al Gore and Hillary Clinton much more obviously than this. With a treasure trove of things to parody about the Bush Administration, Matt and Trey haven't ever really gone after them. It kinda makes me think they're republicans ... which doesn't make a damn bit of sense. They did a great job with the Terry Schiavo case. But they've never touched Bush/Cheney.
pissed off patricia @ 2:
Like the election between the turd sandwich and the douchebag.
Mike @ 3:
I typed as you posted. I totally agree. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it. And you're right on about how they go after Hollywood. They're closet right wingers. But I'll take them over any of the rest of the right wing anyday.
PurplePatriot @ 6:
do they really have too? How can Bush and Cheney be more characterized than they already are? Besides, Bush and Cheney are easy topics. The "heart" of Wal-Mart (or whatever that store was), the homeless issue, battle between pseudo-religious groups, Pat Robertson... no one is spared. That's the beauty of the show.
They did do "That's My Bush" and "Team America" (but the second one got both sides too).
Bingo. Maybe the fact that South Park can avoid blatant Bush bashing and still be socially relavant is a sign of how ahead of the curve Matt and Trey really are.
Do we really need more stale Dubya comedy (Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, SNL, Mad TV, etc)? Bush is a shitty president but he will soon be gone.
PurplePatriot @ 6:
Both creators are libertarians, that would explain the right wing leaning of the show...
ThunderMonkey @ 9:
I looooved "That's My Bush" it was gone right after 911 though...which was a shame...and Team America...I haven't laughed that fuckin hard in a LOOOONG damn time...I was cryin I was laughin so hard...
PurplePatriot @ 8:
Actually they have tackled the war on Iraq. There was an episode in which the US wages war against heaven, I think. And when Bush goes to make his case against heaven to the UN he is asked "Mr. Bush are high or stupid?" And he replies "Let me assure you I am not high"
So... before making blanket statements about a show, it would be nice if you guys actually watched it.
And these are the types of people that are running our nut house.? Oh, I mean country. Great job South Park!
They're both libertarians although one of them said once that he was registered repug. I don't expect serious commentary from Comedy Central but when it happens, I'm pleasantly surprised. The first and second parts of this trilogy have been top notch. You really need to TiVo it and pause the group shots of the imaginationland. Ronald McDonald, HR Puffinstuff, Charlie Brown and don't even get me started on the evil toons. Every frame is solid gold. Soda almost shot out of my nose when I saw that jesus was on the imaginationland council. Too funny.
Full Metal Jacket - 10 Minutes of Boot Camp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Nf1MK7lts
ThunderMonkey @ 9:
Like I said, they've done a great job with a lot of issues; and I love the show. But I don't agree that nobody is spared. Bush has been waaay spared on this ratings-getting show. I don't think Cheney has ever been touched. And yeah, I think they really do need to go after the most corrupt, dishonest, constitution-shredding administration ever. Absolutely. I'm tired of this notion that we have to play fair by attacking all sides. Because those on the right certainly don't do that. Matt and Trey could really make resonating points with the younger crowd by doing what they do best to this administration. But they choose not to. I can only assume that's because they're more or less on their side when it comes to this war. It's their show; they can do what they want. But I don't think it's accurate to hold them up as great defenders of the liberal way as some (not you) may think.
PurplePatriot @ 8:
NOOOOOOOO!!!! Say it ain't so!!! Stone and Parker can't possibly be right wingers!!!!
I never woulda thunkit in a million years....as for them being angry at the LA Liberal set...maybe they're just angry at the pretentiousness of those folks, not necesarliy their politics...
The "Imaginationland" episodes are brilliant. I smell another Emmy.
I think they'd go after the right-wing more if they could make it funny enough. Problem is, the right-wingers are so evil now that it's got to be hard to draw humor from them.
JQP @ 14:
"Libertarians are just republicans that want to smoke weed and look at porn." — Thom Hartman
Dr. Who @ 12:
Screw you jackass. I've seen every episode. As you can see, I said given the treasure trove of material they have to work with, they rarely go after the Bushies. Of course there are exceptions. Piss off. And the episode about war in heaven wasn't about Iraq, Einstein. It was about the Schiavo case. So shove your blanket statement comment up your ass.
What about the episode where Saddam was building WMD in heaven according to intelligence from Bush? That was a pretty damning show back in 2002!
They're definitely conservative. But it's a cartoon and it makes me laugh, so I'm cool with it.
And the episode about war in heaven wasn’t about Iraq, Einstein. It was about the Schiavo case. So shove your blanket statement comment up your ass.
It was about both. The episdoes don't exactly stick to one theme.
I agree that they are libertarians ... and I agree with the Tom Hartman quote.
Before my above post gets censored, notice that I don't attack people for having opinions. I attack them for attacking me on false premises. Not once do I belittle or insult someone who doesn't do it to me first.
Yes they are Libertarians and usually gently parody the rightwing ideas. However, since Liberals use their brains differently than Conservatives they see the humor of it all,,,they have poked at jesus, bush, cheney, and several others. Right wingers who may watch the show miss the hilarity of those subtle pokings and relate only to the outright poking at hillary....watched the first two episodes and thought they were absolutely hilarious....betcha the cons missed the joke
Ronald D. Moore did a better job about outlining the occupation of Iraq on the new Battlestar Galactica series, than any other show on television.
In all reality... there isn't really a fictional show out there that spends a great deal to of time attacking Bush and his policies. The Law & Order series and "Boston Legal" (moreso on the second) tend to make the most anti-Bush statements out there.
Screw you jackass. I've seen every episode. As you can see, I said given the treasure trove of material they have to work with, they rarely go after the Bushies. Of course there are exceptions. Piss off. And the episode about war in heaven wasn't about Iraq, Einstein. It was about the Schiavo case. So shove your blanket statement comment up your ass.
The Schiavo episode was not about Bush, it was about Kenny fighting Satan and Saddam using a golden PSP. The War against Saddam and Heaven by Bush was a different episode that came out before the war in Iraq where anyone against the war was ridiculed.
ThunderMonkey @ 26:
I don't know if you saw the South Park episode this week, but the show starts with Cartman saying, "Previously, on Battlestar Galactica..." - Pretty weird coincidence if you didn't!
Justin @ 23:
Agreed. Fair enough. I love the show and will continue to watch it. My only point is that I wish they were more on our side and would just skull fuck this administration the way the deserve to be.
This has turned stupid. God forgive me for sharing my opinion in the first place.
Mike @ 3:
What about Team America or That's my Bush? Those two shows lampooned America, its political policy and Bush.
They have an episode to offend everyones senses. that's what I like about them. They consistently put out contrarian viewpoints in many directions. Politics aside, watch their episodes on religion. they have one on Mormanism, catholisism, Judism, Islam, Christian Science and the best, an epic two part episode on Athiesm, that features the voice and character of Richard Dawkins.
Parker and Stone most assuredly do not go after the right with the viciousness and baseless attacks they use to go after the left.
One word: Manbearpig.
Jody @ 31:
Agreed. Thank you.
By way of that secret portal to the imagination GW's great grandfather Sam Prescott Bush & his war-mongering buddies (aka "The Merchants of Death") lead the US into World War One.
And that secret portal to the imagination led Germany into World War Two .. gratis GW's grandfather Prescott Bush, his war-mongering buddies, their investments and manipulations.
And most recently GW, Cheney et al have led the US to the brink of WW3 .. gratis that secret portal to the imagination.
Powerful stuff ..
Moose @ 28:
Yeah, I caught that. Stone and Parker have shown to be huge sci-fi geeks. It makes watching "South Park" a little more fun for me.
What's with this false dichotomy that they must go after one or the other? Its a cartoon! It does not affect public policy.
curtilingus @ 35:
Agreed. But then neither should they be painted with a veneer of impartiality.
PurplePatriot @ 29:
You can share your opinion all you want, but other people also have the right to correct you.
And please, spare me the victim routine... you were the one calling names.
You obviously did not see the episode in which Bush wages war against heave, which had nothing to do with Schiavo. Before calling people names, I suggest you cool off... and thanks for proving my point.
curtilingus @ 35:
I disagree. Some of the best points to be made can be made using parody and comedy ... even cartoons.
Limbaugh, Hannity, and Malkin are cartoons who profoundly affect public opinion and policy.
ThunderMonkey @ 34:
I've seen them do that before. the stick extremely current references and events into their shows. Like things that happened just a week before the airdate. Its probably not a coinkidink.
Jody @ 31:
But didn't Bush use the phrase "human-animal hybrid" as a protest to stem-cell research in one of his State of the Union speeches?
What about the cute Christmas Critters? (to me that's all right-wing viciousness). They talk softly, then screw you in the ass when you're not looking.
Dr. Who @ 37:
You're 100% right. You nailed me. You corrected me for my opinion that they rarely go after the Bush administration by pointing out one example and suggesting I don't watch the show at all. Your brilliance is too great for me to deal with. Uncle.
Going after religion isn't the same as going after the Bush administration. South Park has always done a brilliant job with their parodies of religious stupidity.
Dr. Who @ 37:
IIRC part of that episode (the part that takes place on earth) involved people fighting over whether to pull the plug on Kenny, in a way that clearly echoed the Schiavo controversy. Meanwhile, Kenny's spirit or ghost or whatever was fighting the war in heaven via a golden PSP.
Or am I thinking of a different episode?
Breaking News:
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I give up too. The creators are not living up to their promise to keep South Park fair and balanced. Everyone please take your opinion and hand it to the person on your left.
ThunderMonkey @ 40:
Actually they piss HIV into your eye socket.
PurplePatriot @ 6:
As for the Al Gore ("I'm Cereal")jab, watch it again. Manbearpig comes from the real world this time.
antiparanoid @ 47:
Help me out. If I missed something there that would make me like that otherwise terrible episode, I'd like to know what it is.
Rusty Shackleford @ 46:
I didn't want to go there... that was just... nasty.
PurplePatriot @ 41:
It is not my problem that you are a pompous ass and can't even fathom to realize that maybe, just maybe you are wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Ladder_to_Heaven
That episode aired in 2002 before the run up to the Iraq war. Terri Schiavo came way later, South Park creators have some sort power which allows them to see the distant future, although I will just go with the more reasonable assumption that you did not see that episode. So please me the smart ass/victim act, OK?
PS. Stop building straw men, you may catch fire. I never doubted the shows right wing slant. If you read the thread, I know that the authors are libertarians. And as such, I am not surprised about the viciousness with which they attack liberals.
However, I have a sense of humour, so I have no problem laughing at the show. And taking it for what it is... oh, a piss off.
Dr. Who @ 50:
Man... you're beginning to take all the fun out of this thread. Next thing you know, you guys would be arguing over who Leia liked more: Han Solo or Luke.
Hans Solo.
I will end this for everyone. It is true that they don't necessarily go after right-wingers as much as they do left-wingers or whatever...but the few times they have gone after Bush it was pretty damning. I mean seriously, Bush attempts to BOMB HEAVEN!!!! HEAVEN for Christ's sake. And then in the Schiavo episode he is listening to the advisor of Satan. SATAN. They basically covered everything in those two moments. Bush is belligerent and stupid enough to want to bomb Heaven and he takes advice from the same "person" who gives advice to SATAN. Oh yeah, and what about the 9/11 truther episode where they simultaneously made fun of 9/11 truthers AND the Bush Administration by saying the BA had to make it look like there may have been a conspiracy so they could control EVERYONE with FEAR of them. Sounds pretty damning to me. Anyway, just my thoughts.
Dr. Who @ 50:
I think you meant "and piss off". But that's okay. I knew what you meant. Actually, I did see "Ladder to Heaven". I loved it. You're absolutely right. It did have a little dig at the end regarding WMD. Although I've completely forgotten the part about the U.S. waging war against heaven in that episode.
I wish I were truly as pompous as you think I am. In my experience, pompous asses are much more successful than I am. I immediately agreed that they are libertarians, as you can see in the thread. I love the show, laugh at it, but long for a more aggressive stab at the neo-cons.
I'm sure you're a bright fellow, no question. But don't you think it's just a little (just a little) dickish to say, "before making blanket statements about a show, it would be nice if you guys actually watched it." You really don't think that was the least bit dickish? I think that was a little passive aggressive.
I'll own my faults, including how I let that comment set me off. But do you really think you didn't intend a little passive aggression? Yeah, I have no problem countering passive aggresiveness with active aggressiveness. That's the beauty of passive aggression: You can then call the guy who responds an asshole for not being as passive.
But in any event, we probably agree more often that disagree even though our semantics are very different. Besides, this is a blog about a cartoon. Best wishes to you. Really. That is not meant as sarcasm. <--- Neither was that. Really. I mean it. Best wishes to you and yours.
curtilingus @ 52:
Piss off, you jackass. It was Luke!
Just as an aside, let us not forget "Team America: World Police". On the whole I have to agree that they aren't as direct in their attack of BushCO. , but I think it would be unfair to say they don't attack them at all. There have been a number of episodes that nibble at 1 policy or another. I personally would like to see more direct commentary on the white house, if they are taking requests lol.
Who knows, maybe they are waiting to make a movie a la "South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut", cept based in the now.
In the end, I respect their opinions enough to hear them out, simply because they criticize everyone, everyone. So I don't think they are working for someone else.
~Not all those who wander are lost~
PurplePatriot @ 54:
She'd be worth more if she stuck with Hans Solo. What does Luke do for a living these days? Dance with the stars? Some marriage counselor you'd be PP.
Y Next thing you know, you guys would be arguing over who Leia liked more: Han Solo or Luke.
Funny stuff!
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I wanted to put in that I notice this too. While they are not required to be on my "side" I do expect a shade of reality form them in a world that doesn’t even know what reality is.
That aside, I notice when they show Bush he is nothing of a parody, there is no joke, he is an upstanding, well spoken representation of the image of what I guess the right sees when they look at that puppet. I always thought that was strange and personally I have tried hard to spin that manbearpig episode every time it's on but I just don’t get the humor ... it really does bring the message that Al Gore is stupid, no one listens to Al Gore, AL Gore has no friends, Al Gore pursues meaningless, worthless agenda etc ...
Nothing more.
It really strikes me as odd because they usually have a real good knack for taking silly issues in the world and looking at it from a completely different angle and making you think about it different ... yet the war and the administration have been spared when the material practically writes itself.
And don’t get me started on the 911 truth episode. I'm not a die hard truther but I have serious doubts and, offend everyone or not, I took offence at them belittling my perfectly reasonable questioning
I'm positive they had all of the current administration in the "Mystery of the Urinal Deuce"....The best part is that they gave Bush a villainous voice, sounding intellectual, rather than Texas-doofus.
ThunderMonkey @ 19:
As opposed to Republicans that schtupp Senatorial Pages and cruise airport bathrooms?
Dr. Who @ 10:
Um, no their not.
Thay have stated in several interviews on their complete season dvds that they are conservative. They make that very clear and give examples of why the are conservatives. It's no secret.
Dustin de Wynde @ 44:
Off topic, but I initially read your post way too fast and thought that uber-hack conservative NYT columnist and wanker extraordinare David Brooks was in jail for being a fraud. Which simultaneously delighted and frightened me.
But this is just as good. Do we get our money back?
People here seem way too worked up over this.
South Park is, and always has been, about the freedom of speech. Nothing else even comes close to South Park's significance.
The freedom of speech, as we know, has been hailed by liberals far more than it has by conservatives. End of story.
Sounds just like somebody accidently tuned into Faux Noise.
Yeah, I know it's quasi off-topic here, (though it does fit the "Right Wing Stupidity, War Coverage" tags of this post), but I figured that this site is called Crooks & Liars, and this monster is Exhibit-blanking-A of just what that is, in the worst way, and also I wanted to get word out on this small victory out as quickly as possible to as many people as possible.
Dude's looking at life under these charges, and if you check out just how vile it is the manner in which he looted the American Treasury, literally over the bodies of our troops, to be able to fund his spectacularly lavish lifestyle, (forget the $10 mil Bat Mitzvah, he owns 100 thorough bred horses, among other things), I hope he gets it, because, wow does he ever deserve it.
Brooks makes Soviet era Communist Party Russian Kleptocrats look like ethics professors by comparison
Gotta feel for the daughter though.
I'll bet that this, like, y'know, totally blows her My Super Sweet 16 birthday party plans all to hell next year.
Poor thing.
As far as the Brooks NYT's columnist confusion that he having the same name as this creep goes, well, that's just an added frisson to be enjoyed in this mix, inn't it?
~nwa
slippytoad @ 61:
Dr. Who @ 10:
That's why I quit watching the show. The creators of South Park think Barbara Streisand and the Baldwin brothers are a threat? Especially now in the age of BushCo and the neocons?
I'll stick with The Simpsons from here on out thank you very much.
curtilingus @ 30:
The central message of Team America is that liberals are "pussies" incapable of defending America.
A lot of the right-wing blogosphere as so embraced South Park's conservative messages that there was even a book about it...
http://www.amazon.com/South-Park-Conservatives-Against-Liberal/dp/089526...
Anyone who thinks TEAM AMERICA was remotely evenhanded needs to revisit that film paying less attention to the puppet scat and more attention to the overall tone and message - those who've read Al Franken ought to be familiar with the phrase "kidding on the square" - that's TEAM AMERICA in a nutshell. Personally I have better things to do with my time than further fatten the pockets of these jackasses.
hmmm terrorists attacking the imagination? Fucking amazing and here little old me thought they attacked my city and killed my friend on 9/11/2001.
Anyway I sometimes watch SP. Mostly it's just fun and I try not to hear the "message" they try and push...granted I like that they are topical.
I point the finger at this site for sometimes undermining the actual threat terrorism is. Maybe things are different when you live in terrorist target #1.
I like South Park as well, but don't really take their messages very seriously (except for their case against Scientology). In fact, there are certain episodes that I really don't like because of their overtly right-wing message (the smoking episode and ManBearPig come to mind). What I think makes the show worth watching for liberals is their very nuanced humor that conservatives don't quite get.
The creators are libertarians - Trey Parker is a registered member of the Libertarian Party - which means fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
"spiritual war"-General Boykin
debaser71 @ 68:
I respect your opinion; but personally I've never seen the actual threat of terrorism undermined here, or anywhere for that matter. 9/11 impacted most of us in a visceral way like nothing before. It was horrible. The person responsible is still at large while billions get thrown into a war with a country that had nothing to do with it. The country that had the most to do with it is sitting on a pile of oil money while the Bush family holds hands with them.
What I think is being undermined is the ability of the right wing to shamelessly use the deaths of 3000+ Americans to scare everyone into thinking that we are on the verge of another attack ... and as long as we don't question the president, that attack won't happen. That is profoundly different than undermining legitimate threats. Profoundly.
In my opinion, it is the Bush administration, along with its army of pundits and their ministry of propaganda (FOX) who are truly undermining any effort to treat the terror threat as it should be.
Mike @ 3:
QFT! Haven't the commenters on this site heard of "South Park Republicans?" As funny as the show may be sometimes, comparing global warming to a mythical creature like Bigfoot (see: the Al Gore/Manbear-Pig episode), or generalizing Hybrid drivers as pretentious arrogant jerks who like the smell of their owns fart (literally), definitely soured me on the show for a few years. Thankfully, they haven't been as blatantly Republican lately, but come on... anyone who watched the show the last 4 years has been bound to have caught at least one or two explicitly pro-Iraq War or anti-Liberalism episodes.
As a parallel, has anyone ever watched Penn & Teller's Bullshit? Another Libertarian show; one episode, they're blindsiding right-wing Christian zealotry, and the next, they're telling you that environmentalists are all a bunch of dumb hippies who don't know what O2 is, and having shills from the CATO Institute "debunking" global warming.
I've watched SP for years and never gave it a thought about the politics. I don't care about the writers views or what they do outside of their creations. I always thought the show was FUNNY. I didn't stop to seriously internalise the message they were sending.
So, if you apply your political exclusion principle to entertainment, Walt Disney was an anti semite. So I hope all you principled my-cartoonist-must-think-the-same-as-me folks are throwing out everything that has to do with disney right now.
Jesse @ 74:
excellent example. I challenge anyone to say the completely agree or disagree with each subject bull shit attempts to debunk. Several of their shows I disagree with, and question their fairness in making the argument. But it is still very entertaining and informative and I never felt politics were behind it.
curtilingus @ 75:
I must have missed the Mickey Mouse as Hitler episode. Your comparison falls just shy of an apples-to-apples comparison. South Park does indeed inject their political beliefs into their product. Disney probably didn't so much. And it's good that you can watch, laugh, and not give a second thought to the politics. That's a good approach to enjoying the show. But they have done some very pointed shows where the politics are obvious.
Political exclusion principle. I like that. I don't exclude them. I love the show. Nor do I think they have to think like me. I just think some people believe that since they use the word "shit" and fart jokes, that they must be anti-republican. Hence the discussion we had here earlier.
The episode made me wonder:
Does "Terrorism attacking our imagination" mean that the threat of terrorism knows no boundaries...
OR
Does "Terrorism attacking our imagination" mean that the terrorist threat is a figment of our imagination?
I sort of seen it as both. The argument about South Park being Libertarian/Conservative or not, does it really, truly matter? Parker and Stone are pretty free thinking men with just a different ideology. I consider a person like that more of an equal to me than an off the cliff Liberal. I would much prefer a cartoon attacking every angle of political bias. It's good to laugh sometimes at ourselves. It's what makes us better than "them".
curtilingus @ 76:
I agree. I love this show, too. Sometimes I'm left wondering about the veracity of their message though. They do a lot of editorializing ... sometimes I can't tell where their opinions stop and their representation of facts begin. Did you see the episode on PETA. They made them look like the KKK and the Nazi's rolled into one. That one has me wondering about it's fairness. I know jackshit about PETA ... Bill Maher and Pamela Anderson, that's about all I know about them ... plus what I was told in that episode. Do any of the two people still reading this thread know any more?
Mike @ 3:
You are right about this, and it's one of the reasons I won't buy anything "Southpark". Matt and Trey have never, to the best of my knowledge, skewered the bastards occupying the White House. They refuse to do this, but Barbra Streisand is fair game.
Ask yourself who is the bigger threat.
Be careful about the "pure genius" label; their tacit approval of BushCo is not genius at all...it's as stupid as it gets.
PurplePatriot @ 16:
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I agree, judging by their past record it seems as though they might be card-carrying members of BushCo... That sucks too, because I always liked their show. I've decided to stop watching South Park because it's gotten way too slick and over-produced. I guess I miss the good old days when Sotuh Park first started, and it had a sort of innocent charm. Then, for some reason it got REALLY preachy and has been that way ever since.
PurplePatriot @ 6:
Matt and Trey *are* Republicans. Or at least voted for Bush. Matt was interviewed in Rolling Stone and said something to the effect he'd sooner drop dead as vote for a Democrat for President.
im certainly not among the south park scholars posting here but have watched the show. and im not by disposition a natural audience for the humor presented there, but find that despite myself, I respect the writing and point of view. it lampoons us beyond left or right, and particularly the conventional "wisdom" we solemnly embody in our unambitious response to the world, as we fence ourselves in by our breathless reaction to both right and left wing media stars, and politicians, who are often utterly unqualified to even have opinions, but who guide the parameters of our discourse, even on liberal blogs. to me, the show is about how we focus. i think the writers intentions are broader, and, strange as it may sound, more spiritual, than described in this thread. my modestly informed belief regarding the producers is that they are very smart, beyond liberal, and rich as gods, and deeply detest the administration. but are more interested in how we got here. i think they believe this requires responding with more individuality, creativity, and intellectual rigor than we have of late. their form of art isnt particularly suited for reversing our war policy, but its fairly deft at telling us we behave like cows. it isnt meant to flatter anyone.
Justin @ 23:
Yes, on that note, where is the current trilogy going with Cartman's contract? is this perhaps a statement on how obligated we are to contracts? or is it something personal the genius creator/writers are going thru?
harper valley pta @ 83:
Hear Yee hooray! so well written.
Imagination is being held hostage as well. What will the 3rd chapter reveal about us?
PurplePatriot @ 72:
I agree but I think that sites like this sometimes go out of their way to attack Bush and the neo-cons, and in the process these sites sometimes miss legitimate issues. The notion of terrorism being imaginary just to poke holes in Bush's policies and such is IMO foolish and wrong. I like this site, I am a liberal democrat (not that I'm on board 100% with each and every issue though), and I despise neo-cons. I don't make comments often so when I do it's usually when I disagree.
PurplePatriot @ 20:
Hey Moderator, are you sleeping?
To see an example where the Reich Wing claims South Park as their own, check out this link:
It's official: 'South Park' will save the world
http://gopvixen.blogs.com/gop_vixen/2006/04/its_official_so.html
Mike @ 3:
I hate to pull a Fox News on this, but maybe they see so many cartoons taking such a left stance that they need to balance it out by _not_ focusing on Bush.
Also, keep in mind that they've been around since Clinton's years, and largely stayed out of his controversies. Once again, they figure that other areas of the media do the job for them, and it's not even worth parodying.
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