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Huckabee, behind in the polls and not wanting to be outdone by the "we must go to war with Iran" Giuliani campaign, went on Late Edition this Sunday morning and tried his best to prove he's just as capable of starting an unnecessary war based on bad intelligence as any other Republican candidate. Repeating the lie that Ahmadinejad said he wants to destroy Israel, Huckabee swears he will do "whatever it takes," and will not even rule out using tactical nukes in doing so.

Huckabee: "I think the President's right with trying to bankrupt them before we bomb them. That's a good way to start."

He also thinks that Saddam really did have WMDs. Just because we never found them yet doesn't mean he didn't have them; and if he's elected President, the first thing he's going to do is dig up the end-zone in Giants Stadium to look for them. (OK, I made that last part up, but not by much).



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Better put up my umbrella!

And the sound of crickets echoes across the country as the Huckabee sings it's swan song.

What a complete muppet .......

Why are a bunch of rotten to the core decrepit old men destroying our future?

This Huckabee guy is a piece of you know what. He seems senseable with his tone and not cut from the same cloth that Romney, McCain, Thompson are cut from but he is the same lifeless antichrist antichristian Zionist cult member like the reset of them.
He is a fake warmonger.

Wolf: If you had to rape a woman, get her pregnant, and then abort her unborn unborn child, would you do that to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon?

Huckabee: Blah, blah, blah

Wolf: What if Jesus the reincarnated Ronald Reagan were being held hostage by the Iranians, and the only way to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon was to bomb the site where they were holding Jesus and Reagan ... would you do that to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon?

Huckabee: Blah, blah, blah
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Does anyone have definitive information regarding the whole "wipe Israel from the map" issue? Of course the hawks say it was meant literally. But some argue it was meant to refer to redrawing a map with no recognized state of Israel because their statehood had been taken away by some other means than nuclear annihilation.

“I think the President’s right with trying to bankrupt them before we bomb them. That’s a good way to start.”

Good strategy...only backwards.
The middle east has already bankrupted America.

What a blatant panderer. Sickening. But par for the course for the party of bankrupt, cro magnon grovelers, the Neocons.

If I was an Iraqi and heard Huckabee say what he said to the Americans and Ron Paul recently "We bought it because we broke it" I would probably hate a nation of presidential hack candidates like that till death and beyond. Now this person wants to "break" another ancient nation Iran and speaks of it, speaks of igniting 70 million Iranians causing death and destruction in a manner a true f*****g mindless US Christian should be real proud of. What a difference 6 years make. I wonder which dropped bomb shows the sign of a nation breaking as defined by the Right, the hundredth or the thousandth.

PurplePatriot @ 6:

Does anyone have definitive information regarding the whole "wipe Israel from the map" issue? Of course the hawks say it was meant literally. But some argue it was meant to refer to redrawing a map with no recognized state of Israel because their statehood had been taken away by some other means than nuclear annihilation.

Isreal has one of the most advanced militaries in the world (thanks to us) and it is believed to have nuclear weapons. Isreal has also shown that it will take action if it feels threatened. It seems pretty clear that Isreal is quite capable of taking care of itself.

Huckabee is a dirtbag necon shill.

Just a quick comment from the UK.

How on earth is this idiot even considering running for the office president?

Oh, and thanks for bringing your 20 stone steroid abusing idiots to run around in different directions wearing padding and helmets after an egg shaped object. to MY COUNTRY'S soccer ground! To all those from the USA who attended and spent piles of cash and ate your national dish of burger and fries washed down with a strawberry milkshake - thanks - now go home. Oh, and don't come back.

Did you notice that? Soccer. It isn't - it's Football. But not the type you lot play.

Does it scare anyone as much as myself that we aren't guaranteed that one these idiots wont be in the White House on January 22 2009? If it happens, We're all gonna die!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Huckabee: “I think the President’s right with trying to bankrupt them before we bomb them. That’s a good way to start.”

Thanks to Bush China could do the same to us.

PurplePatriot @ 6:

Wolf: If you had to rape a woman, get her pregnant, and then abort her unborn unborn child, would you do that to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon?

Huckabee: Blah, blah, blah

Wolf: What if Jesus the reincarnated Ronald Reagan were being held hostage by the Iranians, and the only way to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon was to bomb the site where they were holding Jesus and Reagan ... would you do that to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon?

Huckabee: Blah, blah, blah
=====================

Does anyone have definitive information regarding the whole "wipe Israel from the map" issue? Of course the hawks say it was meant literally. But some argue it was meant to refer to redrawing a map with no recognized state of Israel because their statehood had been taken away by some other means than nuclear annihilation.

I have seen on the internet that the Farzi interpretation of what he said "The zionist regime has to be removed." Again,the MSM not doing their job.

Military service http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/1998/states/AR/G/mike.huckabee.html none. Another brave chickenhawk who will kill from the safety and security of his air conditioned office but not serve.

Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy here, a would be presidential candidate advocates using [nuclear bombs] too allegedly prevent the spread of nuclear bombs, if anyone doubts the insanity, ignorance of republicans these idiotic statments from men who would kill millions too gain power ought too wake up people in general...., the danger of world war III is not via some backward 3rd world nation like Iraq but by someone gaining power in one of the major powers who is insane enough too think using nuclear weapons is a option...., world war III has always been something that is possible and only nations who really can do it too any degree of danger are USA, United Kingdom, France, Russia, China, and some minor countries do have capacity too become causes of these conflicts which will not be about terrorists but about oil and natural resources which is what all major multi-nation conflicts start over..., if republicans gain presidency [which is unlikely unless they can pull off another voter fraud scandal as they did in Florida in 2000], we all ought too make our peace with god and get ready too meet our makers since these idiots truly are going too think they can start nuclear conflicts and win, one thing most sane people realize once major powers unleash nuclear weapons everyone is a looser, no winners will exist, the few who survive will not be worrying about politics, nationalism, but how too survive the nuclear winter, how too keep from starving too death, and avoid the radiation sickness and death too come. Albert Einstein the famous genius once predicted world war III would be fought with nuclear weapons, but world war 4 would be fought with bows and arrows, so keep on voting republican if your ideal world is we all go back too the stone age...

I love how these 'christians' are really into the bombing thing. Lot's of blown up kids. Choice! Hey, if you can't insure them here, why not just kill them over there!

noitaluspacne @ 10:

PurplePatriot @ 6:

Does anyone have definitive information regarding the whole "wipe Israel from the map" issue? Of course the hawks say it was meant literally. But some argue it was meant to refer to redrawing a map with no recognized state of Israel because their statehood had been taken away by some other means than nuclear annihilation.

Isreal has one of the most advanced militaries in the world (thanks to us) and it is believed to have nuclear weapons. Isreal has also shown that it will take action if it feels threatened. It seems pretty clear that Isreal is quite capable of taking care of itself.

Huckabee is a dirtbag necon shill.

But to answer your question... I don't know.

There was a discussion about it in the NYT a year ago.

"Does anyone have definitive information regarding the whole “wipe Israel from the map” issue? Of course the hawks say it was meant literally. But some argue it was meant to refer to redrawing a map with no recognized state of Israel because their statehood had been taken away by some other means than nuclear annihilation."

Who has Iran invaded and attacked lately? Seems the map wiping in the middle east is being done by the christo-fascist warlord George W. Bush.

Ron at 14 said,

I have seen on the internet that the Farzi interpretation of what he said “The zionist regime has to be removed.” Again,the MSM not doing their job.

Hannity has said in reference to Iran's democratically elected leader "Israel must be wiped from the map" 200 times in 5 H&c programmes - haven't you got the message yet Ron?

At least Ahmadinejad has been elected once. Your idiot hasn't. Never mind twice.

PurplePatriot @ 6:

[...]
Does anyone have definitive information regarding the whole "wipe Israel from the map" issue? Of course the hawks say it was meant literally. But some argue it was meant to refer to redrawing a map with no recognized state of Israel because their statehood had been taken away by some other means than nuclear annihilation.

Maybe try clicking the link in tho post?
Repeating the lie that Ahmadinejad said he wants to destroy Israel, Huckabee swears he will do “whatever it takes,”...

I'm just sayin' ;)

The sad truth is that Israelis should never have been resettled in the Middle East, in land belonging to Palestinians. The western powers knew that Israeli presence would forever keep the region in turmoil and from growing into a unitary power. Israelis have behaved for years against Palestinians like South Africa did toward blacks. Abuse begets abuse. The Jews were abused in Germany, now they abuse Palestinians in Israel. I think I understand what people like Ahmedinejad mean when they say Israel should be wiped off the map. They mean the Jewish state should not be where it is, that it should go elsewhere, anywhere out of the Middle East. It should never have been set up in 1948. It could have worked as long as Jews and Palestinians worked together. But as soon as the eye-for-an-eye, chicken-and-egg, cycle got started, the Jewish State has behaved in as cruel a way as South Africa did during its apartheid.

Huckabee is an unstable christo-fascist loon therefore he may have a WMD in his basement. Should the US take him out first then check his basement afterwards. Isn't that the position he is advocating with Iraq and Iran?

Russ Mason UK @ 20:

Ron at 14 said,

I have seen on the internet that the Farzi interpretation of what he said “The zionist regime has to be removed.” Again,the MSM not doing their job.

Hannity has said in reference to Iran's democratically elected leader "Israel must be wiped from the map" 200 times in 5 H&c programmes - haven't you got the message yet Ron?

At least Ahmadinejad has been elected once. Your idiot hasn't. Never mind twice.

Hannity repeats everything at least 200 times. If you misinterpreted what I said, read comment #18. And that is not my idiot. I claim no responsibility.

Battlefield Earth

It's ok for israel to have hundreds of nukes?
There goes Huckabee's chances to be elected!

I hope that he doesn't end up as someone's Vice-Presidential candidate. He seemed more intelligent than that when I saw him on Real Time with Bill Maher, but he obviously has the same information deficiency as the other Republican candidates when forming opinions about weighty matters.

Insanity seems to be a feature of the New World Order.
It used to be a bug, but they patched it.

Huckabee needs a vacation.

Ron at 24,

The idiot remark referred to Bush, not Hannity. Though hannity is an idiot as well. Thankfully, hannity doesn't have a nuclear weapons capability. Bush does.

Russ Mason UK @ 30:

Ron at 24,

The idiot remark referred to Bush, not Hannity. Though hannity is an idiot as well. Thankfully, hannity doesn't have a nuclear weapons capability. Bush does.

They are both scarey. If some kid comes to my door with a mask of Bush or Cheney or Hannity they will be in dire straits.

I agree with RH@16 It show great hypocrisy to say you will nuke them to prevent them from getting nukes. Pakistan has them and that is where bin Laden is (?)
Israel has them and after their recent bombing of Syria I wouldn't put it past them to use them. The first one to set off a nuke in todays world will be the one responsible for ending the world as we know it.
Hick-a-bee went on to talk about how precious life is. Make up your fucking mind. Life is precious or bankrupt them and bomb poor people. You can't have it both ways.
When will someone in the msm ask how these nitwits compare those two things?
I want them to ask how they feel about the precious lives of the children killed in Iraq.
Why do they keep voting for more of it?
We are doomed if someone doesn't stop the idiot puppet in the WH and the snearing asshole that pulls his strings.

This is not correct: "starting an unnecessary war based on bad intelligence as any other Republican candidate"

It should read, "starting an illegal unnecessary war based on bad intelligence as any other Republican candidate"

Janet @ 32:

I agree with RH@16 It show great hypocrisy to say you will nuke them to prevent them from getting nukes. Pakistan has them and that is where bin Laden is (?)
Israel has them and after their recent bombing of Syria I wouldn't put it past them to use them. The first one to set off a nuke in todays world will be the one responsible for ending the world as we know it.
Hick-a-bee went on to talk about how precious life is. Make up your fucking mind. Life is precious or bankrupt them and bomb poor people. You can't have it both ways.
When will someone in the msm ask how these nitwits compare those two things?
I want them to ask how they feel about the precious lives of the children killed in Iraq.
Why do they keep voting for more of it?
We are doomed if someone doesn't stop the idiot puppet in the WH and the snearing asshole that pulls his strings.

If your an American, that someone is you ........

Wow @ 33:

This is not correct: "starting an unnecessary war based on bad intelligence as any other Republican candidate"

It should read, "starting an illegal unnecessary war based on bad intelligence as any other Republican candidate"

Illegal?
"When the President Does it That Means That it is Not Illegal"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGBNkxBEG0o

I used to just write this guy off as a Republican loser.

Now I see that he's also dangerously delusional!

"We just haven't FOUND them Yet?"

Gimme a break.

Check this out. So bizarre that Petraeus and his hacks must have been drunk when they wrote it.

Salon.com. Glenn Greenwald. SUNDAY OCTOBER 28, 2007 07:18 EST
“A bizarre, unsolicited email from Gen. Petraeus' spokesman”

If only drunkenness would explain WAPO's Hyatt's behavior, but sadly his behavior is more insidious-- deliberate deception and corruption.

Ron @ 14:

PurplePatriot @ 6:

Does anyone have definitive information regarding the whole "wipe Israel from the map" issue? Of course the hawks say it was meant literally. But some argue it was meant to refer to redrawing a map with no recognized state of Israel because their statehood had been taken away by some other means than nuclear annihilation.

I have seen on the internet that the Farzi interpretation of what he said "The zionist regime has to be removed." Again,the MSM not doing their job.

Juan Cole says this:
So, I have a suggestion for my readers. Every time you see a newspaper article that alleges that Ahmadinejad said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the map, please write the editor. Say that this idiom does not exist in Persian, and that what Ahmadinejad actually said was, "This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time." And you can cite me.

If enough people do this often enough, the press will get tired of the propaganda line they are carrying, which is intended to whip up a manufactured war, and drop it. And that would be the most fitting response to Hitchens and his Neocon puppeteers.

this whole country is full of MORONS. i am tired of the do nothings.
what will it take short of a WW to get Americans off their fat and selfish asses?

Mike Huckabee and all the leaders in America who are threatening war on Iran are war criminals in the same way Hitler was when he used to threaten and invade other nations with military force. The people of America are living under an international criminal government-syndicate not much different than the Nazi regime from the days of Hitler in Germany. What I am saying may sound harsh and dramatic, but threats against other nations and citizen populations which will bear such burdens of attacks should not be taken lightly by any peoples with a conscious or "higher moral standing" as we are always be told that America "has over other nations." I am tired of the brainwashing of "American exceptionalism" when I hear leaders of America always threatening other populations of the world with military force using bombs from above to be used on innocent men, women, children, below those taxpayer-paid for bombs America uses.

I am against any attack on Iran.

The problems America's elite leaders have with Iran are of their own doing from the 1953 covert overthrow of a duly elected leader named Mohammad Mossadegh after he announced that the oil industry would be nationalized. Both the British and the United States said no to that and ordered a covert coup d'etat, using the CIA, to do so. Eisenhower was the president who ordered the coup in Iran in 1953. I am so tired of everyone praising Ike's "military-industrial complex" speech when he so utilized the CIA to overthrow Iran and Guatemala using the same war instruments used during the Cold War years. The CIA came under its own during the Eisenhower administration. Eisenhower's decision to overthrow the duly-democratically elected Mohammad Mossadegh still has ramifications to this present day.

So the next time anyone points to the "military-industrial complex" speech of Eisenhower, just understand, he too was a hypocrite, and his (Eisenhower's) remarks were directed at John F. Kennedy.

America has never been honest about its own international wrongdoings over the years, thus learning nothing. America uses its power in an irresponsible way, as well, which most of you likely know, by now.

Once the bombs drop as Iraq has shown, there is no turning back, as the chaos begins. The war aims of Germany in WWI, with their overwhelming power did not turn out in the end how they had it written down.

America for what its worth did not win either WWI or WWII all by itself. When America has tried to do wars against nationalist populations in the last 50 years for a prolonged period of time by itself, the end result has been continuous failure. America needs to wake up and join the League of Nations at the United Nations and stop acting like the world's bully and the world's last rogue power.

Hello, I'm Mike Huckabee. I'm not just a theocrat. I'm also a neo-con! And I'm fucking insane!! Check out my new campaign platform:

1. Life on the moon is a threat to us. Moon creatures have no respect for our freedoms. They hate us for our freedoms. We must be prepared to fight the moon people. I know we haven't found them yet. But just because we haven't found them, doesn't mean they don't exist. (If you want proof, just think of Jimmy Hoffa. Nobody EVER SAW Jimmy Hoffa, dead or alive. Not ever! But would you say he never existed? How do you explain his kids then? Oooh, snap! Gotcha, commie-pinko Islamo-fascists!)

2. Let bygones be bygones. Whether what we did in Iraq was the right thing is in the past. It doesn't matter anymore. And there are no lessons to learn from mistakes. Except maybe to make sure that we have the right intelligence before acting. Which isn't that big of a lesson. Watch out for the moon people!

3. We must do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to keep Iran from getting a nuke! ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING. (Please don't ask for specific examples. I'm not sure of any. Just know that it's ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING.)

Captain Kangaroo @ 38:

Ron @ 14:

PurplePatriot @ 6:

Does anyone have definitive information regarding the whole "wipe Israel from the map" issue? Of course the hawks say it was meant literally. But some argue it was meant to refer to redrawing a map with no recognized state of Israel because their statehood had been taken away by some other means than nuclear annihilation.

I have seen on the internet that the Farzi interpretation of what he said "The zionist regime has to be removed." Again,the MSM not doing their job.

Juan Cole says this:
So, I have a suggestion for my readers. Every time you see a newspaper article that alleges that Ahmadinejad said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the map, please write the editor. Say that this idiom does not exist in Persian, and that what Ahmadinejad actually said was, "This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time." And you can cite me.

If enough people do this often enough, the press will get tired of the propaganda line they are carrying, which is intended to whip up a manufactured war, and drop it. And that would be the most fitting response to Hitchens and his Neocon puppeteers.

The press doesn't get tired of telling lies. If they did, how would they get you to believe that Iran has nukes

Russ Mason UK @ 11:

Just a quick comment from the UK.

How on earth is this idiot even considering running for the office president?

Oh, and thanks for bringing your 20 stone steroid abusing idiots to run around in different directions wearing padding and helmets after an egg shaped object. to MY COUNTRY'S soccer ground! To all those from the USA who attended and spent piles of cash and ate your national dish of burger and fries washed down with a strawberry milkshake - thanks - now go home. Oh, and don't come back.

Russ, it could have been worse. Our country could have shipped over the New York Yankees to show you blokes how the American ripoff of cricket -aka "Baseball" is played. You ever see baseball on TV, Russ? It's the video equivalent of shooting a dime bag of heroin.

Did you notice that? Soccer. It isn't - it's Football. But not the type you lot play.

Does anyone have definitive information regarding the whole "wipe Israel from the map" issue? Of course the hawks say it was meant literally. But some argue it was meant to refer to redrawing a map with no recognized state of Israel because their statehood had been taken away by some other means than nuclear annihilation.

Let Ahmadinejad tell it like it is.

January 2, 2006

"[The creation of Israel after World War II] killed two birds with one stone [for Europe] … [The objectives achieved by Europe were] [s]weeping the Jews out of Europe and at the same time creating a European appendix with a Zionist and anti-Islamic nature in the heart of the Islamic world …Zionism is a Western ideology and a colonialist idea ... and right now it massacres Muslims with direct guidance and help from the United States and a part of Europe ... Zionism is basically a new [form of] fascism."
(In written answers to questions from the public reproduced in several Iranian newspapers)

You can thank Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity for the UN-THINKING- Republican "twenty-seven-percenters" out there. FOR YEARS these two, especially, in REICH-WING Hate Radio have been filling gullible people's brains with ANTI-LOGIC GARBAGE... and passing it off as Heil-Bush patriotism. Now most of the Republicans seem to think they have to pander to the LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR of "BASE Republicans" to get elected.

"Yer a GREAT AMERICAN, Rush!"
"Well, Thank you... and Yer a GREAT AMERICAN, Sean."

Let me say it here... You're BOTH a couple of IDIOTS.

It's funny (but not in a haha sort of way). The GOP freaks running for President just don't get it. The crazy-ass talk is just driving voters AWAY from them. Why do you think the chattering idiots in the main stream media kept talking up Fred Thompson? Huckabee, Brownback(since dropped out), Giuliani, McCain are all batshit crazy and scare everybody but the most hardcore of the 29%-ers. The funny thing is, Fred Thompson is turning out to be a complete dud. The GOP has nowhere to go, no candidate to turn to except these lunatics who just won't shut the fuck up about how they're everybit capable of starting wars as the next guy. Watching the Republican Party implode - tis a beautiful thing, no?

what a fine christian minister--a pathetic hypocrite!!

gene214 @ 46:

It's funny (but not in a haha sort of way). The GOP freaks running for President just don't get it. The crazy-ass talk is just driving voters AWAY from them. Why do you think the chattering idiots in the main stream media kept talking up Fred Thompson? Huckabee, Brownback(since dropped out), Giuliani, McCain are all batshit crazy and scare everybody but the most hardcore of the 29%-ers. The funny thing is, Fred Thompson is turning out to be a complete dud. The GOP has nowhere to go, no candidate to turn to except these lunatics who just won't shut the fuck up about how they're everybit capable of starting wars as the next guy. Watching the Republican Party implode - tis a beautiful thing, no?

I almost want to agree, but in the back of my mind I can't help but wonder wtf happens if we are attacked again like 9-11 or worse even shortly before the '08 election? How will the media play it? How will the sheeple react?

Nothing beautiful about that.

the more I bomb

the more the republican base

will love me

heh...

This link explains in very simple terms, the reasons behind the war in the middle east
and the Neocons basis for their "war on terrorism".

The only thing that is not mentioned is the role, U.S. President, Harry Truman, played in promoting the
Jewish cause at the U.N. for his Zionist buddies.

Below are quotes from http://www.mideastweb.org/zionism.htm which covers Truman's involvement.

'Despite his plainspoken ways, Harry S. Truman had a sweeping grasp of geopolitical realities. He was also a friend of the Jews who had made clear his support for the Zionist cause before WWII. He was strengthened in his resolve to help the Jews following the revelations of Nazi atrocities'.

'Truman was inexperienced in foreign affairs and initially felt he was out of his league and crushed by the burden of his new office and responsibilities. Nonetheless, he did not forget the Palestine question as soon as World War II was over'.

Americans in 1945-47, helped create the bed we all now lay in.

WATCH THIS!

Palestine Israel 101
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1300690147358876696&pr=goog-sl

After all that time spent on bringing Libby to justice for the Plame gate, they think the WMD is still there! Just unbelievable! It is almost as if they wish the magic bean would bring them a WMD just to be able to say "told you so" after 6 years.

They leak plans for nuclear weapons, and unguarded the weapon depot in Iraq, as they did everything to incite and provide weapons, just to say there is violence in the middle east.

justabill @ 48:

gene214 @ 46:

It's funny (but not in a haha sort of way). The GOP freaks running for President just don't get it. The crazy-ass talk is just driving voters AWAY from them. Why do you think the chattering idiots in the main stream media kept talking up Fred Thompson? Huckabee, Brownback(since dropped out), Giuliani, McCain are all batshit crazy and scare everybody but the most hardcore of the 29%-ers. The funny thing is, Fred Thompson is turning out to be a complete dud. The GOP has nowhere to go, no candidate to turn to except these lunatics who just won't shut the fuck up about how they're everybit capable of starting wars as the next guy. Watching the Republican Party implode - tis a beautiful thing, no?

I almost want to agree, but in the back of my mind I can't help but wonder wtf happens if we are attacked again like 9-11 or worse even shortly before the '08 election? How will the media play it? How will the sheeple react?

Nothing beautiful about that.

Justabill, if we are attacked this time, I'd like to believe that Americans (except the hardcore 29%-ers who STILL swear that Saddam was behind 9/11) would be much more skeptical about what the government tells us. Kudos to Keith Olbermann for bringing to light the Nexus of Politics and Terror. At least, I'd like to believe this is so.

justabill @ 48:

gene214 @ 46:

It's funny (but not in a haha sort of way). The GOP freaks running for President just don't get it. The crazy-ass talk is just driving voters AWAY from them. Why do you think the chattering idiots in the main stream media kept talking up Fred Thompson? Huckabee, Brownback(since dropped out), Giuliani, McCain are all batshit crazy and scare everybody but the most hardcore of the 29%-ers. The funny thing is, Fred Thompson is turning out to be a complete dud. The GOP has nowhere to go, no candidate to turn to except these lunatics who just won't shut the fuck up about how they're everybit capable of starting wars as the next guy. Watching the Republican Party implode - tis a beautiful thing, no?

I almost want to agree, but in the back of my mind I can't help but wonder wtf happens if we are attacked again like 9-11 or worse even shortly before the '08 election? How will the media play it? How will the sheeple react?

Nothing beautiful about that.

I'm more worried about an attack shortly after Nov. 08. Or perhaps, shortly after the inauguration of a new Democratic president.

Cries of "See! See! See what happens?!?!" Then, a still divided Congress goes a little crazy, moves to impeach.....who knows?

But anyway......not much use pondering those kind of possibilities. ;)

Which is worse, that he has lost his mind, or that he no longer misses it?

bornking @ 26:

It's ok for israel to have hundreds of nukes?
There goes Huckabee's chances to be elected!

Israel has nukes, biological weapons and chemical as well. I know because doctors at Gaza hospitals have been complaining of "mysterious" diseases they haven't been able to treat after protesters were gassed with what they at first thought was tear gas, but later turned out to have some severe effects on the nervous system, triggering convulsions, high fever and heavy sweating in patients (especially children).

Bollox Ref @ 17:

I love how these 'christians' are really into the bombing thing. Lot's of blown up kids. Choice! Hey, if you can't insure them here, why not just kill them over there!

It's amazing how the religious folk are always the most blood thirsty. Basically, they want to kill all of the infidels.

Very unChristian.

gene214 @ 52:

[...]
Justabill, if we are attacked this time, I'd like to believe that Americans (except the hardcore 29%-ers who STILL swear that Saddam was behind 9/11) would be much more skeptical about what the government tells us. Kudos to Keith Olbermann for bringing to light the Nexus of Politics and Terror. At least, I'd like to believe this is so.

Well, here in red-state land, you have to get the premium package of channels to get msnbc (unlike Fox or CNN). most people around here have never seen the channel or have ever heard of KO. It's amazing Countdown has risen so far as it has in the ratings considering. I don't know how common that is across the rest of these red-states, but I'll bet it's not uncommon to find CNN and Fox News down in the low teen channels and MSNBC buried up in the 70s for the few who want to pay extra to get'em like it is here, and that KO's surge in popularity is statistically limited to audiences that electorally already favor the Democrats. There's a reason Murdoch kills all the other networks in the ratings, and just because his audience is older holds no promise for the short term. At least for the next decade or two. Seniors are much likelier to vote than KO's targeted age group, and I don't know that we will be able to recognize this country if we have to go through another 8 years with a Republican in the White House.

Huckabee is the good-christian republican candidate. Have I got that right?

Anti-Iran rhetoric worries U.N. nuke watchdog

WASHINGTON - The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog said Sunday he had no evidence Iran was working actively to build nuclear weapons and expressed concern that escalating rhetoric from the U.S. could bring disaster.

"We have information that there has been maybe some studies about possible weaponization," said Mohamed ElBaradei, who leads the International Atomic Energy Agency. "That's why we have said that we cannot give Iran a pass right now, because there is still a lot of question marks.

"But have we seen Iran having the nuclear material that can readily be used into a weapon? No. Have we seen an active weaponization program? No."

The rest is some scary shit. Rhetoric over evidence.

gene214 at 43.

Russ, it could have been worse. Our country could have shipped over the New York Yankees to show you blokes how the American ripoff of cricket -aka “Baseball” is played. You ever see baseball on TV, Russ? It’s the video equivalent of shooting a dime bag of heroin.

Thanks for the comments. No I haven't watched baseball. Your summary is correct.

You lot have taken so much from the Brits and given us what in return? Nothing.

I am utterly sick to my stomach that we (the Brits) are being used by an illegal stolen presidency (x2) as your 51st state.

Sorry, but the time as come for the UK to name you lot, the usa under bush as a terrorist state, and stop all communications, all transactions etc and name your country an enemy of mankind.

In other words. PISS OFF UNTIL YOU CAN GET A DEMOCRAT BACK THE IN THE WHITE HOUSE!

thanks for reading - remember we are 8 hours in front of you retards!

Strange: If the GOP "doesn't bomb Iran" they fear "being called weak"; yet if the DNC "doesn't impeach" they fear nothing.

liberalbiasboy @ 58:

Huckabee is the good-christian republican candidate. Have I got that right?

Well, he's a minister, or a former preacher or something like that, turned politician, and yes, he's a Republican. The 'good' part, I don't know about that. If he means what he's saying here, I'd say no.

Another point on this:

Wow @ 61:

Strange: If the GOP "doesn't bomb Iran" they fear "being called weak"; yet if the DNC "doesn't impeach" they fear nothing.

Why isn't the "DNC fear of being called weak on impeachment" something that inspires impeachment? The RNC lost the election: Why would the GOP 'concern about being called weak' be relevant?

"Being called weak" is another argument used to justify illegal invasions of Czechoslovakia in WWII and Iraq in 2003.

Another point: Why isn't the "fear of being called weak on the rule of law" or being called "weak on the Constitution" enough to moblize the DNC to impeach, fight for the Constitution, or prosecute the President for war crimes?

Wow @ 63:

Another point on this:

Wow @ 61:

Strange: If the GOP "doesn't bomb Iran" they fear "being called weak"; yet if the DNC "doesn't impeach" they fear nothing.

Why isn't the "DNC fear of being called weak on impeachment" something that inspires impeachment? The RNC lost the election: Why would the GOP 'concern about being called weak' be relevant?

"Being called weak" is another argument used to justify illegal invasions of Czechoslovakia in WWII and Iraq in 2003.

My frustration is that the "concerns of the GOP" about some arbitrary standard appears to be something the public has to be "concerned with". Who cares if the GOP is "viewed" as being weak: They are weak on teh rule of law; but that is not defended or justified by then expanding those illegalities.

The GOP has no plan to credibly invade Iran and prevail; nor does the GOP have a credible plan to clean up the mess in Iraq -- why would anyone take seriously their "military solution" to something that is not an imminent threat?

Where in the Constituation or Laws does it require Americans to be sacrificed for the 51st State?

(From tonight's 60 Minutes) How many dead civilians is a bad guy worth? This is called 'proportionality' by the US Military. They figure out how many civilians could be killed depending on the value of the target. Saddam was worth up to 29. Anything more would require authorization from Bush or Rumsfeld.

Macabre - if you ask me

Before the invasion of Iraq they planned on 50 high-value targets. They got 0, but killed upwards of 200 civilians in doing so

Russ Mason UK @ 11:

Just a quick comment from the UK.

How on earth is this idiot even considering running for the office president?

Oh, and thanks for bringing your 20 stone steroid abusing idiots to run around in different directions wearing padding and helmets after an egg shaped object. to MY COUNTRY'S soccer ground! To all those from the USA who attended and spent piles of cash and ate your national dish of burger and fries washed down with a strawberry milkshake - thanks - now go home. Oh, and don't come back.

Did you notice that? Soccer. It isn't - it's Football. But not the type you lot play.

Hey, Russ....too bad you can't try and appreciate a different sport. I'm a die-hard American football fan. I have visited your country a few times, as well as India, and have spent portions of my visits with my friends learning and trying to understand your "great national pastime", cricket. And I must say, it has its high points. I used to be like you and "pooh-pooh" cricket, and rugby, and other European sports, but I don't anymore. Because I made the adult decision to try and LEARN the other game...

Maybe you could try it...you might find things about American football that you can enjoy. Peace.

Ron @ 14:

Juan Cole says this:
So, I have a suggestion for my readers. Every time you see a newspaper article that alleges that Ahmadinejad said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the map, please write the editor. Say that this idiom does not exist in Persian, and that what Ahmadinejad actually said was, "This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time." And you can cite me.

If enough people do this often enough, the press will get tired of the propaganda line they are carrying, which is intended to whip up a manufactured war, and drop it. And that would be the most fitting response to Hitchens and his Neocon puppeteers.

Wait, I may believe in Iranian engagement (with the populace, diplomatically) but how is that substantively different? OK, so they'll keep the name "Israel" but just kill all the jews? Please. Whether you disappear from time or space your still disappeared. I know what he meant. He is a hate filled radical at least as much as Bush and possibly as much as the right-wing Israelis. I would probably like the average Persian on the street, but if they are serious about opposing their two "leaders" then they must move against them, or at least make more noise about it. Same here in the U.S.

Russ Mason UK @ 11:

Just a quick comment from the UK.

How on earth is this idiot even considering running for the office president?

Oh, and thanks for bringing your 20 stone steroid abusing idiots to run around in different directions wearing padding and helmets after an egg shaped object. to MY COUNTRY'S soccer ground! To all those from the USA who attended and spent piles of cash and ate your national dish of burger and fries washed down with a strawberry milkshake - thanks - now go home. Oh, and don't come back.

Did you notice that? Soccer. It isn't - it's Football. But not the type you lot play.

He's not really running for president. There's no way he could be elected. But this is a LOT of free advertising for his business (he's a minister... big bucks in that these days).

Well, contrary to the impression you seem to have, most American males only have 2 stones. I dare say finding twenty should warrant a doctors visit, not to mention making walking difficult. I always thought you British called them "bollocks". Huh. A fine word, which I endeavor to use more often (our Bullock is single and female). And what are you talking about? They had an NFL game in the UK? Odd, why? I'll assume it is payback for that incredibly crappy talking Mr. Bean movie you guys foisted on us. BTW, NOTHING can ruin a soccer pitch faster that those guys outside of a tactical nuke. Be prepared to play in a mud bog with grass chunks after them. I never played "North American Football" growing up here, just "Soccer". It does get confusing... I propose we compromise and adopt the Aussie term: GRIDIRON. Seems to work for the rugby folks.

Actually, I think our official dish is New York-ish pepperoni pizza, just like we'll let you guys claim chicken tikka masala instead of... what? "Boiled kidney chunks and eyeballs with no spices" or whatever. You guys were WAY smart to go with curry. But I do resemble one remark. Fresh sugared strawberries on a steaming buttermilk biscuit (like a soft unsweetened scone, not your cookies) with half-and-half cream.... mmmmmmmmmm. Strawberry milkshake for adults and pure heaven I swear!

Since you seem ticked, and have personally uninvited all Americans, I will personally bring you a chicken tikka masala pizza, with fresh strawberry cobbler for desert if I ever get to go see a premier league game (Blackburn most likely, my brother's been a huge fan and they're recently doing well). It isn't likely to happen for some time, however, as one must spend 27 days getting through security just to take a flight in the U.S., and who has that much time off work?

But more on topic, why DID the UK set up the Middle East like that? It doesn't seem to have worked out very well... (again, I kid -- we're all stuck with it now). ;)

Are we still a civilized nation.

What happened "Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer"?

Huckabee's wannabee Ward Clever shtick is wearing thin. Under his tax plan a grandmother in the projects would pay 23 percent sales tax and corporations would pay nothing

Agatha @ 22:

The sad truth is that Israelis should never have been resettled in the Middle East, in land belonging to Palestinians. The western powers knew that Israeli presence would forever keep the region in turmoil and from growing into a unitary power. Israelis have behaved for years against Palestinians like South Africa did toward blacks. Abuse begets abuse. The Jews were abused in Germany, now they abuse Palestinians in Israel. I think I understand what people like Ahmedinejad mean when they say Israel should be wiped off the map. They mean the Jewish state should not be where it is, that it should go elsewhere, anywhere out of the Middle East. It should never have been set up in 1948. It could have worked as long as Jews and Palestinians worked together. But as soon as the eye-for-an-eye, chicken-and-egg, cycle got started, the Jewish State has behaved in as cruel a way as South Africa did during its apartheid.

Holy Shit. Finally someone who isn't afraid of being labeled an anti-Semite by stating the facts. I do partially disagree that Iran's hatred for Israel is completely based on Israel's war mongering and it's treatment of Palestinians like Jews in Germany in the 1930's. There is a very large part that has to be attributed to the fact that Israel is the bootprint of Britain and the US in the middle east. I think that has as much to do with their hatred of Israel as Israel's documented torture, imprisonment and eradication of Palestinians.

But, getting back to Gov. Fuckibly, here are his words about why Iran should never be allowed to obtain nuclear power.

"We cannot allow Iran to have nuclear capacity... The destabilization of the oil market, the collapse of the economy that would cause an the instability to world peace... It is would be unacceptable, uh totaly unacceptable to ever allow Iran to have nuclear weaponry given the language, the tone and the direction of this regime."

Never mind that Iran isn't building nuclear bombs. Never mind that the IAEA agrees that they don't have the capacity or the intent to try to build bombs. Just listen for a second to the arguments put out by Gov. Fuckibly. Don't they sound like the exact same arguments you would make for the Bush regime not having nukes?

On a different note, would you lot happen to know if Dynasty is being aired in Iraq already? I know that when the communism collapsed it was aired pretty much all over the post soviet states such as Check Republic, East Germany, Poland and so on, to show the western values and stuff. Sort of like the first Must-See American TV show for the new democratic capitalist societies without a clue. So, does anyone know if the Iraqis have the license? It’s kind of funny during the transition when you think about it. Blake, Steven and the rest of the gang during the Reagan years of excess and glamour. I remember myself, the first intrigue and you’re pretty much hooked. Germans even dubbed the movie. I wonder if the Iraqis will follow suit.

FreeDUMB @ 54:

Which is worse, that he has lost his mind, or that he no longer misses it?

That's the clear winner! Concise, accurate, clear!

How about this . . . maybe if you made a stupid decision to attack Iraq, you might not be the best person to make the decisions. How ridiculous. . .There were a lot of people that didn't think it was a good idea. How about them making the decisions instead of the ones who can't do anything right???
Let's just give it a try. . .

What a bunch of complete morons ! !! ! ! ! !

STOP !

These religious people are the worst. . .
If Jesus Christ were to come back today, he wouldn't be able to stop throwing up. . .

Who does that Ahmadinejad think he is? Only the exceptional 'merica has the right to threaten the existence of other nations. Plus our god has a bigger dick than their god. Praise Jeezis!

I had to laugh aloud when I heard Huckabee compare not finding WMD to not finding the body of Jimmy Hoffa. WAIT....

I know, the WMD are at the bottom of the Chicago River, encased in concrete.

Yeah, that's the ticket...

What a rube!

Bush is trying to bankrupt Iran? Is that a joke? I'm sure the Iranian regime really hates having to sell oil at $90.

I'm certain the WMD's are actually encased inside the tomb of Jimmy Hoffa. I don't understand why the huckster fails to see this/

Bankrupt them by driving up oil prices to record levels.

bankrupt them before we bomb them?

Nazibee

What is really scarey is that he thinks the Iraq WMDs were probably MOVED somewhere else. If that is true ... then the Iraq war is an even BIGGER mistake.

Why? Because now we don't know where they are ... and that was the whole point of the Iraqi war ... to GET the Iraqi WMDs, not lose them to a 3rd party!

Can you imagine a sane society in which psychos like Huckabee would be allowed to roam around unattended?

When Huckabee was Governor of Arkansas, the toughest decision he ever made was to give up Velveeta. I lived through this man's "leadership" already during an interminable stay in my home state (he's part of the reason I moved away) and having seen them up close, I can safely say that his whole family is an example of inbreeding.

Who would Jesus bomb?

Iran is not a threat… sure they see an opening caused by Iraq to increase the power and influence of the Shia, which makes sense and I don’t blame them given the historic rivalry with the Sunni… Sure they are likely giving arms to Shia in Iraq as part of this, which are likely being used to kill Americans… although far more Americans are being killed by Sunni insurgents… also, name one instance where a Shia suicide bomber has killed Americans.. they are all Sunni and likely come from Pakistan, Egypt or Saudi Arabia..

Sure they want to be a bigger power in their sphere of influence…. that is their right…. as it is the U.S., China, Russian, etc….

And sure they may want a nuclear bomb (although not proven), as is their right like the U.S., Pakistan, Isreal, etc.

Before and after the Iraq war the Iranians actually reached out to America…. the Neocons shot them down… a big mistake…

Iran would likely be a far better partner with the U.S. than Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan… countries where all of the extremists come from…

It looks to me like Iran has had no part in the recent violence direct at the U.S. by Al Queda…. in fact they are likely also an enemy of this Sunni terrorist group….

And so they have a wacky President who on occasion says ridiculous things… but, that means nothing as he has no real power in Iran and even his own people, including the clerics that run the country think he is wacky and do not agree with everything he says…. you cannot attack a nation, who has shown no really aggression toward the U.S. because they have a wacky president who says stupid things…. sounds like another President we know…. who has a habit of saying stupid things…. I think he said something about World War III the other week…..

Iran would not even be an issue if it was not for oil and the Israeli lobby in the U.S……...

Huckabee with his statement that when it came to Saddam, " he used WMD in the past ".

This is a Republican talking staple. When does the media start confronting that stretch?

Saddam used chemical weapons we gave him on the Kurds back in the early 80's.

We used chemical weapons in WWI. We used the Atomic bomb on Japan. Talk about restraint, where is it?

So, Saddam used chemical weapons we gave him on the Kurds back in the early 80's is a reason to nuke Iran if a U.S. President becomes frustrated politically?

And I had thought if you were to Water board me with electrodes to my testicles, I would cave in under this torture and choose Huckabee from the GOP pool. After that idiotic statement be Huckabee, I think it would be torture to the death now.

How many times must we debunk the "Iran wants to destroy isreal" myth, i assume he is referring to ahemdinejads qoute, or mis-qoute, when he said said he wants "zionism to be wiped from the history books"., which has been used ad nausuem by a plethora of right wing evangelical republicans, the only sane man in the republican race is Ron Paul.

This guy is clearly insane and hugely misinformed.

Ahmadinejad said the Israeli regime would "vanish from the page of time", much like the USSR.

For the correct quote and context, see this article: "WIPED OFF THE MAP" - The Rumor of the Century

This is how much the Moron in Chief is supporting are troops who have fought so bravely for this god forsaken country..

"The 2,600 members of the Minnesota National Guard returned recently from extended duty in Iraq, which was reportedly the longest consecutive deployment of any outfit (22 months, counting extensions). However, the Guardsmen still do not qualify for government education benefits. The law allows the benefits only for those on "active duty" at least 730 days, but the Minnesota Guard's orders (as well as some other outfits' orders), were specifically written for "729 days." [KARE-TV (Minneapolis), 10-18-07]

It's official. Ron Paul is the only sane Republican candidate.

He's actually a closet environmentalist whose solution to global warming is nuclear winter.

All Republicans are "batshit crazy"

Well maybe not Ron Paul, but clearly all of the rest....

You get to know a candidate not only by his supporters, but by his opponents. The foul language of the replies on this page reveal such a lack of class that I'm giving Huckabee another look.

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