I saw this segment...this administration is so utterly crooked...they make me want to smash things upon their heads...

What? We don't want "the terrorists" to hear about global warming?

Its all about precedent for these people, no matter how necessary to public good, they wont relinquish anything as to not undermine the of unconstitutional executive privilege they have been trying to cement for 7 years now.

"So yes, I think they’re hiding this. I think they’re hiding a lot of things - it’s their way, it’s their habit, it’s wrong.”

That's good, Barbara. Now what are you going to do about it?

Put up or shut up. I'm tired of hearing Democrats in Congress talking about how bad things are and then rolling over for the President.

THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT - YOU COMPLICIT BUNCH OF WEASELS!!!

IMPEACH PELOSI ALONG WITH THE GOP CRMINALS, FOR BEING NEGLIGENT IN HER DUTIES TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION!!!!

MAN AM I SICK OF LISTENING TO THESE MORONS WINE; WHILE HAVING TO WATCH THE BUNGLING, INCOMPETENT, FASCIST-IDIOTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE TELL 75% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO DROP DEAD ON A DAILY BASIS!!!

THESE DEMOCRATS ARE USELESS!!!!

Not exactly OT.

Take a look at how the wingnuts are skewing the vote for best science blog of the year by voting for a global warming denialist site:

http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/11/cast_your_vote_for_real_s...

The really weird part about this is that the unredacted version is available online for all to see:

http://www.scienceprogress.org/2007/10/redacted-testimony-of-cdc-directo...

It seems that this administration is evoking executive privilege simply for the purpose of hiding their partisan hackery.

Rowdy @ 13:

Barbara is no Feinstein or Pelosi... she is not one to mess around with.

Be ware, Repubs... you've been warned. I have no doubt she will do what it takes to get that information revealed.

Go, go Barbara!
Go, go Dennis!

I hope your right....these do nothing dems are really pissin me off. If they don't watch out...there is goin to be a democratic/republican backlash and a third party (hopefully the Greens) will take over, 'cause I think America's almost reached the boiling point with both parties, and will start voting do nothing incumbent out from both parties!

KUCINICH '08!!!!

How the f**k is this legal for the White House to withhold this kind of information? And how the f**k is it legal for the Pentagon to block the testimony of Lt. Col. Stuart Crouch on interrogation techniques? These bastards in the Whire House and the Pentagon are nothing but criminal trash and need to be treated as such!!! Time for some serious criminal trials!! Screw the Congress, they're not about to do their duty to the American people it seems!!

Well looks like vetos can be overturned .....

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/08/congress.water/index.html

[Wow. I am surprised you cleaned up your incredibly foul racist hate-filled screed posting style just enough to make it through our moderation filter. I'll have to fix that-Sitemonitor]

Piren @ 11:

"I sent a letter asking for clarification." Way to get tough, senator.

And they sent a letter back telling me to bite the big one.Those darn Republicans;all they do is lie and deceive,whatever shall we do?

"...it’s their way, it’s their habit, it’s wrong.”

Weeelllll, sounds like someone needs to send a sterner letter to them. Remember to express how disappointed you are. That might just do the trick. /sarc

TRUECRISTIAN @ 22:

po @ 21:

think we all know who was responsible for that, the Godless liberals who cannot stand having their immorality shoved back in their ugly face!! [Deleted post-Fake Christian] Jesus is opposed to all of these horrible things. [And He is opposed to your judgmental attitude, too. That's His dad's job. Read your bible, kid]
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let me get this straight...you're a crazy person...right? Takin time off from the meds are we? Hmmm? Got tired of weaving baskets and chasing butterfiles? Hmmm?
Now now, it will be ok...here have some more kool-aid...there...feelin better now?
Gooooood...
Suuure Jeeeebus will be here tomorrow, and take aaaaall you crazy bastards to that big WalMart in the sky....

chimpy was way too late in responding to this man-made disaster considering others told him the truth. This ain't the first time for johnny come lately if at all.

chimpy believes if he erase certain relevance contextual details so be it onto the power of thor. The loo.

TRUECRISTIAN @ 22:

po @ 21:

...President Bush was put in a position of leadership in order to wipe the devil's religion of Islam off the face of the Earth, so that the Christian God can fill the world with His message of peace and love.
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OMFG! That sentence made me involuntarily crap my pants.

TRUECRISTIAN @ 22:

[Deleted post-Fake Christian]

Jesus is opposed to a scientific theory that was not developed until 1800+ years after his death?

Borgs were rip-offs of Dr. Who's cybermen

Just like R2D2 was a rip-off of the Daleks, and C3PO of Maria the Robotrix in Metropolis.

>Piren @ 11:

“I sent a letter asking for clarification.” Way to get tough, senator.

And they sent a letter back telling me to bite the big one.Those darn Republicans;all they do is lie and deceive,whatever shall we do?

Take another run at the football, Lucy wouldnt dare pull it away again ....
What would you expect from this collection of spoiled, super rich, over priviledged losers?

Terrible @ 18:

How the f**k is this legal for the White House to withhold this kind of information? And how the f**k is it legal for the Pentagon to block the testimony of Lt. Col. Stuart Crouch on interrogation techniques? These bastards in the Whire House and the Pentagon are nothing but criminal trash and need to be treated as such!!! Time for some serious criminal trials!! Screw the Congress, they're not about to do their duty to the American people it seems!!

Short answer: it isn't legal.

Longer answer: it isn't legal, but the mechanism for ensuring that legality is maintained in the Presidency has been effectively eliminated.

The measure that the Founders wrote into the Constitution to ensure that the Executive did not abuse their power was -- say it with me now -- impeachment. The critical failing of the "checks and balances" system is being shown now: the President and Vice-President have made Congress so scared of what happens should they go against the Executive's wishes that the "threat" of impeachment has been completely neutered.

As long as Speaker Pelosi maintains her stand that impeachment will not be considered, President Bush and Vice-President Cheney have carte blanche to do whatever they want. The only thing standing in their way at this point would, quite literally, be an uprising of the people.

Rusty Shackleford @ 34:

TRUECRISTIAN @ 22:

[Deleted post-Fake Christian]

Jesus is opposed to a scientific theory that was not developed until 1800+ years after his death?

How many TIMES do I have to tell you people? Its Jeeeeeebus!!!

ysbaddaden @ 39:

32 drtoxic Says: TRUECRISTIAN @ 22:

OMFG! That sentence made me involuntarily crap my pants.

Why would you voluntarily?

Bwahahahaaaaa!!! Too damn funny!!!

Steven @ 46:

During the 2004 election, Sen. Boxer won a landslide victory in California gathering enough votes to be the no 3 in popular votes after Bush and Kerry. Cheney and Arnold spent millions trying to unseat her but failed miserably. If you look at her record, she's very consistent in her views and to me, she's one of the best senator we got out there.

I realized that many ppl here wants the democrats to take drastic actions against the Bush/Cheney. But do you realize the risk involved in it? At this status quo, the democrats will be bound to win the House/Senate and the Presidency. If you want them to jeopardize that given opportunity then we might not be able to win next year. Impeachment is a very very risky tactic. Just imagine if Cheney is impeached and Rudy replaces him, then Rudy becomes an incumbent seeking reelection. Just imagine if suddenly a terrorist decided to do something funny.... and that would really mark the end of our Bill of Rights.

What the democrats are doing now is to expose the cronism of the Bush administration so the public will realize how corrupt the Republican administration is. It's good for us to defeat all the real pro-Republican democrats but we should also appreciate the good democrats working hard in Congress.

Yeah, I guess that does balance out against killing a few million more people in an illegal occupation and a probable war against Iran, Syria and Turkey.

At least everyone is dying for a noble cause.

I've got a flash for ya, we (The People), pay a lot of people's lucrative salaries who are supposed to be representing us and they aren't. We need a better government.

Steven @ 48:

Weaseldog @ 47:

Steven @ 46:

During the 2004 election, Sen. Boxer won a landslide victory in California gathering enough votes to be the no 3 in popular votes after Bush and Kerry. Cheney and Arnold spent millions trying to unseat her but failed miserably. If you look at her record, she's very consistent in her views and to me, she's one of the best senator we got out there.

I realized that many ppl here wants the democrats to take drastic actions against the Bush/Cheney. But do you realize the risk involved in it? At this status quo, the democrats will be bound to win the House/Senate and the Presidency. If you want them to jeopardize that given opportunity then we might not be able to win next year. Impeachment is a very very risky tactic. Just imagine if Cheney is impeached and Rudy replaces him, then Rudy becomes an incumbent seeking reelection. Just imagine if suddenly a terrorist decided to do something funny.... and that would really mark the end of our Bill of Rights.

What the democrats are doing now is to expose the cronism of the Bush administration so the public will realize how corrupt the Republican administration is. It's good for us to defeat all the real pro-Republican democrats but we should also appreciate the good democrats working hard in Congress.

Yeah, I guess that does balance out against killing a few million more people in an illegal occupation and a probable war against Iran, Syria and Turkey.

At least everyone is dying for a noble cause.

This is life. We have to face consequences of our own actions. We have decided to give the Republicans the house and the senate in the 2004 election. So the guilt is partially in our hands as well. Now we can fix it by electing the right democrats into Congress next year to prevent future wars. What happens during this 12 months is the consequences of our inaction and sadly we got to bare with it.

How do you figure that Cheney would be impeached and Rudy would replace him? If Cheney is impeached, Bush will be impeached and Nancy Pelosi will be president.

This move will not hurt the Democrats. If Cheney is impeached, it will put the fear of the evangelical christian god in the rest of these retards and you'll see them straighten up right quick. That's what the Dems should be focusing on. If none of these people are held accountable for their crimes against the Constitution and the American people, then we'll never have an honest administration again.

Steven @ 48:

Weaseldog @ 47:

Yeah, I guess that does balance out against killing a few million more people in an illegal occupation and a probable war against Iran, Syria and Turkey.

At least everyone is dying for a noble cause.

This is life. We have to face consequences of our own actions. We have decided to give the Republicans the house and the senate in the 2004 election. So the guilt is partially in our hands as well. Now we can fix it by electing the right democrats into Congress next year to prevent future wars. What happens during this 12 months is the consequences of our inaction and sadly we got to bare with it.

I don't believe that the next President will dramatically change course. Mainly because I believe that the only candidates that are going to get past the primaries will be pro-war.

So we have 60 more months before we can hope that the slaughter of millions of people in our name, will end.

We are an empire in decline. And declining empires will continue to make all of the worst choices until they are soundly beaten by military might or severe attrition. There is no reason to believe that this time things will be different.

Before Bush leaves office, oil will be well past $100 / barrel and gasoline will be well over $3.00 gal in the cheapest locales. Food prices will continue to rise. Taxes will rise. Wages will continue to drop. The mood in the US will be angry and people will identify with candidates that scapegoat Iran.

These wars will not end because a President decided to do the right thing. They will end because our politicians have backed themselves into a corner and they believe that they have no choice but to withdraw from the wars.

There is too much money, and too much greed fueling the slaughter. It will not end in twelve months.

I was told a while back, that if the Dems won the election and gained a majority, the war would end. Even though I didn't believe this, even though I saw good reason to believe that most of the Dems were fakes, I voted Dem in the last election. I was right and we were lied to. Now you tell me again that this time will be different, that the liars aren't lying again. I didn't believe it in the last election, I don't believe it now.

Sure, I'll probably vote Dem again but I won't be a fool and believe in them. They need to earn my trust. And those that lied in the last election, will have to push that mill stone uphill to do so.

I lack your faith in people who lie to me.

drtoxic @ 32:

TRUECRISTIAN @ 22:

po @ 21:

...President Bush was put in a position of leadership in order to wipe the devil's religion of Islam off the face of the Earth, so that the Christian God can fill the world with His message of peace and love.
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OMFG! That sentence made me involuntarily crap my pants.

I'd offer to hand you the TP, but as a godless liberal type, I'm too busy pulling the pages out of the bible for the next time I have to use the ladies. Vellum or 16 weight? Gold print or Times New Roman? King James or New International Version?

Sadly, I think religion can really enrich our lives. These kinds of statements are made in ignorance reading the damn thing. (And, if you ask me, by the time you get through the Old Testament, you ought to feel a little weird about the 'love' in the New Testament.) The bible was originally translated from Latin so that the laypeople could read it and not be fooled or lead astray by their ministers. You can't make people careful about what they believe, I suppose, but it's a damn shame to see people harking back to a time when the mass (or sermon) was said from behind a screen, in a language they do not understand.

I don't know, Babs, maybe we should impeach them.

I don't get it. If Barbara Boxer needs information on climate change, why can't she not get the information. The United States has a monopoly on a lot of things but scientific data on health and climate change is not one of them. That being said, the Bush administration should not be redacting testimony on this issue. There wouldn't be any information in that testimony that hasn't been previously published in peer-reviewed journals. Try as they might, the Bush administration can't suppress information on this, so this is just plain weird.

Same sad old story.

Complain complain complain, but they never do anything about it.

The majority of Americans support impeachment.

Start with Cheney, then move on to Bush.

Steven @ 45:

I realized that many ppl here wants the democrats to take drastic actions against the Bush/Cheney. But do you realize the risk involved in it? At this status quo, the democrats will be bound to win the House/Senate and the Presidency. If you want them to jeopardize that given opportunity then we might not be able to win next year. Impeachment is a very very risky tactic. Just imagine if Cheney is impeached and Rudy replaces him, then Rudy becomes an incumbent seeking reelection. Just imagine if suddenly a terrorist decided to do something funny.... and that would really mark the end of our Bill of Rights.

Under the Constitution, impeachment is the duty of Congress against an executive who has engaged in high crimes and misdemeanors; it is not an option or a “tactic.” Refusal to impeach for such offenses is dereliction of duty on the part of Congress and far more dangerous. It flouts the law to which we all must be held accountable.

As for the prospect of a terrorist attack destroying our Bill of Rights, legally under this regime, one already has (its designed purpose, I would submit). I suspect what you have in mind, pending another such event, is declaration of martial law under NSPD 51. If one needs an extraconstitutional reason to impeach now, this qualifies.

For a Full List of Judiciary Committee Members, how they voted on the “Tabling” and then the “Send to Committee” vote….

and their phone, fax, and email addresses…

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/house-judiciary-committee-con...

(Conveys voted against tabling it, by the way)

If you have other direct email addresses I am lacking, please leave as comments. Please call and write!

This is our right to know. The CDC is obligated to tell the public. How can Bush invoke executive privelege? This man needs to be taken out & I don't mean by an election.

How many Americans are we going to allow these bastards to murder, in order to see that we need to remove this bastard from office or at the very least stop giving him funds to do all the damage he is doing.

I am dead serious that I believe these bastards are threatening democrats to keep all this shit in play.

One Word: Sue!

Take the MF to court over executive privilege - the are abusing the intention of the executive privilege claim.

I'll even start a freaking fund raiser to support the law suit. Congress take them to court.

70 totally Says: One Word: Sue!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M89c3hWx3RQ

To find out the real truth for yourself just go to:

http://www.globalwarmingtruths.net

I'm pretty sure were all missing the bigger picture here.

the fact is that all these issues that plague our society today are truly heart felt by the common man/woman and the working class. What we're too blind to see is that the people who push these agendas (right and left) could'nt give a rip if the planet froze or melted; if the borders fell tommorrow; or the the entire constitution was thrown out all together. All they want is that thing that only we can give them....power and control. And they're willing to say/do anything to get it. If you don't believe me just look at the congress.

Everyone Voted for the big D thinking everything would change, how much has changed. NADA!!! ZERO!!! ZILCH!!! they just wanted a job. It's no different than telling a lie on an interview to get it. we voted them in,they got the job, now there suckin the gov't tit waiting for 08' to do it again with the oval office.

The entire system is flawed. We need to make these positions have zero pay,benefits etc. all they get is a commission on how well THE PEOPLE believe they work. That would change some shit.

that's my rant, get over it

This is reflective of self-centered and moypic persons, catapulted in the corridor of power by kick of circumstance and Mchiavellian tactics of some wretched of humanity.This is so unfortunate in the world of 21st century with about seven billion people living, have the leadership of the only Super power with such a poor quality of essential traits of farsightedness, critical evaluation and second thought.
The irony of fate is they proclaim to be born again Christians,ordained by God to do what they are doing to make a mess of the future of humanity.

liberalNmoderation @ 28:

TRUECRISTIAN @ 22:

po @ 21:

think we all know who was responsible for that, the Godless liberals who cannot stand having their immorality shoved back in their ugly face!! [Deleted post-Fake Christian] Jesus is opposed to all of these horrible things. [And He is opposed to your judgmental attitude, too. That's His dad's job. Read your bible, kid]
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let me get this straight...you're a crazy person...right? Takin time off from the meds are we? Hmmm? Got tired of weaving baskets and chasing butterfiles? Hmmm?
Now now, it will be ok...here have some more kool-aid...there...feelin better now?
Gooooood...
Suuure Jeeeebus will be here tomorrow, and take aaaaall you crazy bastards to that big WalMart in the sky....

waaaaa haaa ahaaa haaa haaaaa!!!! lmfao!!! You make me think of the Pied Piper when you bring GD into things like this. So people who don't include GD in every second of their lives are like the kid that wasn't lured into the cave and never seen again? Whew!! Well..... thank you lord! for giving me a brain to make decisions on my own and use your name in vain in every retarded opportunity i can.

NO 'Consensus' on "Man-Made" Global Warming