Randy Rhodes in Detroit: Was Conyers listening to the Kucinich/Cheney Impeachment issue?
By John Amato Thursday Nov 15, 2007 7:15pmCurt Guyette (Metro Times) reported that John Conyers had a few words with Randy Rhodes after she gave a keynote speech in Detroit---Peace Action's 50th anniversary--and the topic of their chat was: Impeaching Dick Cheney! Go to the 19th minute of the vid...
C&Ler Carol emailed me this article:
After her talk, Rhodes knelt alongside Conyers' chair and they had what looked to be a friendly chat that ended with an embrace. We then collared the always-congenial Conyers and asked him what was going through his mind as he heard Rhodes endorse the call for impeachment and saw the crowd of lefties stand and give that endorsement thunderous applause.
"I can't tell you," responded Conyers.
We pressed him, pointing out what he'd told us in the past about impeachment being counterproductive. But that was before Republicans voted to make this an issue, Conyers explained.
"Events have changed the situation," he said.
But, if what Rhodes told us is accurate, it's up to us to force the hand of Democrats on this issue. As longtime activist Al Fishman told the assembled crowd at the Westin, the name of the group being celebrated had two components, peace and action...read on
I talked to Curt Gayette today and he thought we have a chance to move the impeachment ball forward....Email and call John Conyers office early and often and ask him to proceed with the bipartisan support of Kucinich's impeach Dick Cheney resolution! Phone: (313) 961-5670 Phone: (202) 225-5126
Bernie Sanders and Russ Feingold have been saying on the radio that they haven't been hearing from the public on Kucinich's proposal so they don't think we want Shooter impeached...If they get calls all week we may get some movement on this...Go here to find your Rep's info...
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I have always wondered why the WarPigs were allowed to stay in power, last night I ran across this little jewel:
'Regarding President Bush’s commitment to the sanctity of constitutional processes, Congressman John Olver expressed the prevailing view in government circles when he told twenty of his constituents at a private meeting in Massachusetts on July 5, 2007, that he could not support a movement to impeach Bush. According to an attendee, the reason the Congressman gave was that, “The President would declare a national emergency, institute martial law, and suspend the 2008 elections.”'
Crisis in the U.S.: “Plan B”?
by Richard C. Cook
Global Research, November 11, 2007 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7307
Maybe if we get the same process going that got DiFi to turn her thoughts on Telecom Immunity around something can happen here.
Here we go. Here. We. Go.
The Republicans say they want a fair airing of the issue? Good! Any fair-minded person would. Surely, they'd like to see Bush and Cheney vindicated by history and this is one way to accomplish that, if you really feel they are being unfairly sniped at.
The Democrats want to bottle up the issue? Of course they do. Heaven forbid they should have to actually make a case with the other side their protected by procedure in their right to make the counterargument. It's obviously much better for the party to keep sniping at the administration on the campaign trail.
But, see, again, this is where we must stop allowing both sides to just use rhetoric WITHOUT ACTUALLY BACKING IT THE FUCK UP.
So, good. Democrats say that Bush and Cheney are corrupt and perhaps criminal. Republicans say the Democrats are distorting the issue.
Take it to the crucible. Both sides should want it.
I don't expect Cheney or Bush to be convicted. I can bloody well count. And, of course, once you get into the ring, your opponent is going to land some blows, no doubt.
But, the question is, what will hurt your more in the long run? Standing up for what's right? Or ducking the fight altogether?
people aren't calling because the msm is ignoring the issue and making it sounds like a bunch of weirdos are the only ones who want it - so we gotta get the issue on the front pages
I wonder what ever became of the last Randi Rhodes story.When she either got beat up or she was hammered and fell or she was hammered and tripped over her dog.....inquireing minds want to know.As for impeaching DC ..HELL YES!...now...as for Feingold and Sanders not hearing it on the radio........that's a piss poor excuse.Hey Russ.......internet.
mudshark @ 5:
“I’m with you," Boortz agreed. He said graciously, "I hope that Randi Rhodes is back on the air soon. Sean, I think you agree with me. We need liberal, left-wing talk radio out there. Now, not everyone can do it as well as Alan does, but we need it and I want her back on the air as soon as possible.”
Hannity agreed perfunctorily before hastening to continue with his smears. “Listen, I’m with you. Let them have their stations. They already have the rest of the media."
Ya gotta love Randi Rhodes. She went to a bar, got shitfaced drunk, blacked out, smashed her grill on the concrete, then claimed she was assaulted by violent phantom rightwing Ninjas. The only thing missing from this story is a mugger asking her - "What's the frequency Kenneth?"
Randi has a brilliant mind and the best cleavage of any woman in talk radio. She can do no wrong in my book.
That was a superb speech. We need people like Randi to run for congress.
Hey what the hell let's all make some more calls- if it brings justice to this country....and FOR ALL OF US....let's do it...I am intrigued enough with conyers responses that I think we have a chance...
L.A. Confidential @ 6:
Reason they need liberal left wing radio is because without it their careers would crash and burn overnight.
Where would Rush be if Clinton was never president. Probably spinning discs at some radio station for $500 a week.
JerryO @ 1:
Holy Shit!!! Even the Ron Paul scenario seems possible. We are fucked. No wonder they are pushing HC so hard.
this 'read on' link leads to the Jena 6 story from earlier today. I don't think that's where you intended it to lead.
"“I can’t tell you,” responded Conyers.
"We pressed him, pointing out what he’d told us in the past about impeachment being counterproductive. But that was before Republicans voted to make this an issue, Conyers explained."
Which vote? You mean when the Rethugs voted to bring down the office of the presidency and drag the nation through the mud over the impeachment of Clinton over Lewinsky?
Hypocritical lowlife common thugs that they are.
Again, I'd like to see a thorough investigation in committee (or at least a patient attempt to break through the stonewalling) and have this one done right... yes, even if it takes a few months.
The more they either uncover in committee (or show that Cheney is covering his ass knowingly against crimes) the more likely the Repubs are to vote for the impeachment.
We'll see more action after the Dem nomination, I'm sure. Of course, Dick has already achieved his goal for the most part of restoring the powers of the presidency to those of a monarch despite Hamdan v. Rumsfeld.
In a sad way, that old bastard Tory Dick is really no different than those that worship Brittany Spears for lack of an American royalty. It is a sad and pathetic insecurity, and an unwillingness to appreciate what the Constitution really affords us, in my opinion.
Janet @ 11:
A dozen agents arrived Wednesday morning and seized gold, silver, platinum and nearly two tons of recently delivered Ron Paul Dollars.
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2007/nov/15/liberty-dollar-office-raided/
Amazing. It's as if everyone forgot about Conyers' Constitution in Crisis.
mrogi @ 7:
care to show me some proof....and try to post an unbiased link....not a rightwing site.....but i suspect you can't.
We should just pay Bush $50 Billion to quit.
Imagine the Headlines
U.S. offers Bush $50 Billion to Quit.
I found out that today that on her program, Randi Rhodes was advocating a Clinton/Richardson ticket. This coming from someone who is considered one of the most progressive voices on the airwaves. Simply another reason why Kucinich is not being heard often enough on the liberal programs, much less on the mainstream media.
The Big Encyclopedia of Republican Hypocrites, 2006, (ISBN 1-4013-5248-0) (to be released August 30). While the book was supposed to have been released by the end of August, Rhodes has stated on her show that she was unable to finish it due to all the findings making her sick to her stomach.
I can relate to that.
L.A. Confidential @ 18:
So long as we don't tell him he will have to go into exile after he quits, because otherwise he may not enjoy spending the money from San Quentin. Come to think of it, he's probably already getting $50 billion from certain profiteers to stay. Might have to have a bidding war between the citizens and corporations...
How about we just declare a War On Bush?
rhodes has become an apologist for the dem candidates
im sick of her and the candidates...not one is a true progressive, and that includes kucinich...and he proved that when he said he supported drivers licenses for illegals
illegal immigration does nothing but kill the unions and destroy the working man
mrogi @ 7:
there...that's better.
How about:
mrogi meant to say @ 7:
What vid?
Otay @ 25:
yeah...I think your right....
Vivek @ 16:
No. It's like Conyers forgot it.
If yo know that crimes have been committed and you don't exercise your power to prosecute the crooks, then you are an accessory to the crimes. It's that simple. Congress has a constitutional duty to pursue this issue. Otherwise, they are party to the crimes for their laziness and fear. If it brings on Plan B, SO BE IT!!!
What happened to Randi Rhodes when she got hurt?
It sounds like she got drunk at a bar and then went outside and passed out and fell hard and knocked a bunch of teeth out.
Pretty sad.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 22:
Well if that is your only test, wouldn't Edwards fit you? Union guy, says no on illegal drivers licences...
And lay off of Conyers, he said way back in august:
Meaning Democrats that refuse to support impeachment, despite the obvious appropriateness of it. He is absolutely ready to go when there is a realistic chance of success.
He is not the enemy here. Seek out those "other" Democrat DINOs instead. Apply pressure. Repeat.
JerryO regarding the link and quote in # 1. I recall, but can't find it anywhere now, a quote Pelosi made before the "off the table" rule. She said she can't impeach because bush will "escalate" the war. I do think a threat of some kind was made, most likely by Cheney.
So if we tell these fucking SOB's what thier job is they will do it? That is fantastic, we are saved.
Finally Rhodes Connects The Dots
It was liberating to see someone acknowledging the past events of this country as real and a matter of fact and not debate. We have been living in a fog of unprecedented apathy. Fact after fact has been overlooked, law after law has been broken, and the people in this country have failed to place events in their proper perspective.
The war, the killing of innocent men, women, and children, and the untold ransacking of our nation's treasury have been the norm for the last five years. Randy Rhodes did the unspeakable, the unacceptable; she spoke the truth. With the blinders off, she can connect all the crimes of this president and see the obvious non rational way this criminal administration have been running this country. How refreshing this was to see Rhodes stand up for the truth and hear her tell the truth.
If one of the Democratic candidates would speak this kind of truth to the Democratic Party, they would label him a extremest. Case in point, look at where Denis Kucinich is within the Democratic presidential hopefuls: Dead last. Does this speak to the our denial concerning what this administration has done, or is the elephant in the room too pink? It sounds like we need a truth Party. Not an extreme Party; we need someone like Rhodes who is willing to let the facts drive them. If I never see a debate concerning the breaking of a law already on the books, it will be too soon. Its time for a truthful change. Thank you Randy Rhodes.
Joseph
Congressman Conyers made the statement that he supported Impeachment before the Republicans made it an issue.
I want to ask him and I will call his office to ask, when if ever the good Congressman ever depended on Republican votes.?
I'm really getting sick and tired of Democrats making this weak excuses of worrying about what the Republicans are thinking because as they can see, over and over and over, they do not give a dame what the Democrats think or the American people and if they are just to scared to do their jobs, then step down and let someone that will, do it.
These people are simply distroying the lives of American people and to us, that is worth more then him or any of the rest of them staying in office to keep this shurade going.
We have a whole year to put up with Bush and all the crap he can pull, and that is a long time to endure him and these right wing nuts.
I am personally for them blocking the funds, more then the Impeachment for the reason it will cripple him and the right wing red necks in the house and senate.
Sinto @ 30:
It sounds like?
It sounds like, to me, that Southpark's Mr. Hanky has a brother Sinto, the Thanksgiving turd.
These people know we want impeachment but are afraid of the beltway bumpkins at the Post
Excellent speech!
Bernie Sanders and Russ Feingold have been saying on the radio that they haven’t been hearing from the public on Kucinich’s proposal so they don’t think we want Shooter impeached…
they are both full of shit.
I really hope people can start to see the state of our country now. (the world for that matter.) Did anyone catch the debate last night? Do you really want to vote for ANY of those people? Republicans are the scum of the earth but so are Democrats. Does the constitution mean anything to anyone anymore? I would say that Ron Paul speaks the truth but he will not distance himself from the Republican Party. (Why would he want to hold on to this corrupt party? Why does anyone want to hold on to the corrupt Democrats? How long can they spit in our faces before we stand up and say enough? People are not made to server their government; government is made to server the people. If your government no longer serves you, you get rid of that government or you will be put in bondage.)
Do we really still believe that if we could only get a Democrat back into the oval office that everything will be O.K.? There are two sides to a coin; you have been seeing the dirty "tails" side of the coin lately, just because one side looks better than the other doesn't mean all parts equal the whole coin.
We the American people have had our civil liberties eroded all in the name of security, but I think we all know that we are no safer now than the day before we were attacked on well, you know "that day."
The current administration is positioning themselves to strike Iran as we speak, the day draws near and you know it, you can feel the tension rising.
What are our so called "leaders" doing to stop this? Nothing. Key Democrats have been bought and paid for and you know it. They are now on the pay roll of the Military Industrial Complex.
If we have spent 1.6 -1.9 trillion dollars on this war so far, what do we have to show for it? Nothing. (Nothing but death, destruction, lies and more lies. Broken families, broken dreams, hatred, disgust, sadness, separation, heart break, loss of freedom and the loss of our way. All this is been bought for with our hard earned tax dollars. Heck it isn't even paid for yet is it? Just tack it onto our 9 trillion dollar debt, or is that now 10.6 trillion? Oh who is counting anyway? I wonder if that 10.6 trillion includes the 2.3 trillion that Rumsfeld reported missing on 9/10/01? )
Why is this, you know the answer. , because it is all by design. The beast walks among us now as we speak, and we are all acting like blind fools.
If you would be honest with yourself you would be able to allow yourself to see that we are all being lied to, we are all being manipulated and we are all in essence being controlled.
There is but one way to freedom my friends, there is but one way to truth. Seek it, and when you find it never look back.
Once more the Republican Party doesn't have significant members of Congress who are legitimately wondering whether Bush's decisions are moral or even lawful. I've written this before ... when historians write of this era, what they will find appalling and disgusting is that the Republican Party lined up like lemmings behind the most unpopular President in history to support policies that were a disaster. They will wonder aloud about the foolishness and utter stupidity. Yet, this is what's happening. We have Republicans in Congress who have no moral compass and who do nothing except obstruct any real progress.
Impeach.
everything else aside...
randi did local miami, fl. talk to radio for years. i moved out of there 7 years ago. personally, she's a breath of home for me, always. she's calmed down a lot since her younger days.
larry king too came out of miami radio. i didn't miss him.
i live in oklahoma city now. y'all wouldn't believe the nonsense in the media here, i kid you not. supposedly it's easing up. and i do see fewer W bumperstickers around. but it's got a lonnnggg way to go. if it weren't for the net and sites like this, i'd go nuts.
i never seem to manage to catch randi's broadcasts. i sure would love to know of an MP3 archive of her shows. (she's the only one on air america i'd listen to. god knows why they haven't assembled a different sort of line-up.) praps i should search around...
It does not matter anymore. The public has gone fatigue pressing the Democrats elected officials to do what WE ask them to do...to fulfill its duty.
It is no longer about asking Conyer, Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer or any of te spineless dems and the treatorous repugs to proceed with IMPACHMENT.
WE the PEOPLE are PASS begging Congress to do what is RIGHT and Lawful; AMERICA has made its PLEA and now it is time for SILENCE and time to reflect on OUR collective power to make CHANGES to our body govenment in 2008.
Its time to reflect on what is good for AMERICA.....not what is good for a particular political party. WE have lived through a long list of serious betrayal from our representative and it is time to look AHEAD rather than wasting pushing the issue at POLITICIANs that don't listen. Lets make our SILENCE so loud until 2008 that NO political rhetorics will ever be effective once their time to act has run out of time.
I am so mad that the basic rule of LAW; our Constitution is being disrespected by he least of people we expected OUR CONGRESS, OUR PRESIDENT and VICE PRESIDENT and their cronies.
Zuma @ 43:
You...
You live in the land of Inhofe and Coburn? Whoah. I'm sorry. Good luck there...
You know what pisses me off? Republican Senators just can't do math... how can "teh gays", "teh a-rabs", "teh messicans", "teh libral media", AND "tearists" all be "the greatest threat to our freedoms" at the same time?
Reminds me of the movie, the Jerk... "and this pothole! This pothole is the greatest threat to our freedoms! ...And this here scratch on my car! It is the greatest threat to our freedoms today!! ... and the color orange!! It hates us for our freedoms! If we don't fight it there, it will follow us back home!! And-... Aaaarrgh! What's that?! An ant?! Oh no! Ant's are the greatest threat to our freedoms today!!11one"
Neocon Republicans: the most terrified white men you'll ever see in your life.
i love rhandi
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hey if you need it a simple and straight to the point letter to all of the judicary Committy:
I had recently read that you had not heard from many Americans regarding the Kucinich Impeachment proposal. Well this is one American who is saying please proceed with hearings. We need at the very least to uncover the crimes of this administration and the only way to do that is with hearings and the only way to get past their Executive Privilege nonsense is with hearings on Impeachment. Please stand up to these people, for the good of our nation.
Thank you for your always great service to our country.
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 48:
Did Kucinich come up with this before or after the space-alien abduction? You moonies are rich. The most unpopular congress in the history of America and you are calling for impeachment? Why not start with something you CAN fix. Vote out the bums you have in there now. America hates THEM twice as much (9% approval rating) as our President. (by the way he ain't running the lizard queen is your girl... or man---> http://www.youtube.com/w
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First of all, John Amato, its Randi with an "i", not "y". Second #19 Erroll, Randi is not advocating a Clinton ticket. She's said repeatedly she'll support the Democratic nominee. Lately, she's been singing praise for Joe Biden.
My main point. We ALL need to be calling our representatives EVERY DAY! If you don't know this by now where have you been? Consider it like brushing your teeth or eating breakfast. Calling your reps. MUST be a part of your daily schedule. If we all do this, and enlist our friends and family to do the same, we'd take back our government in no time. Don't wait for anybody to remind you, or instruct you. Do it yourself every day.
The toll free numbers to the White House Switchboard are. Please program them into your cellphone etc.:
1 (800) 828 - 0498 1 (800) 459 - 1887 1 (800) 614 - 2803 1 (866) 340 - 9281 1 (866) 338 - 1015 1 (877) 851 - 6437
Ask the operator to connect you to any representative.
Today's goal. Call all the members of the House Judiciary Coimmittee and tell them to support HR333, the Impeachment of Dick Cheney. Let them know you're watching their vote and statement carefully. Also let them know you're a blogger and will discuss their vote with thousands of other people in the party. Flex whatever muscle you've got.
House Judiciary Members can be found here:
http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx
Yeah, funny isn't it Bert Convy, how the more the Dem congress has gone along with allowing right wingnut legislation and nominees to be passed, the more their approval has dropped, to below that of the Shrub.
What does that say about how America thinks of allowing wingnuts to have their way?
The buck stops with Conyers, and he has not followed thru on what was his initial movement - to impeah Bush and Cheney. Nobody will ever trust that jackass again. I don't want to hear excuses. It seems that Conyers only started this impeachment talk to get the democrats in charge of congress. That's all it was. A ruse. Conyers is just as bad as Feinstein in my opinion.
Sinto @ 30:
Sounds like projection to me, troll.
BERT CONVY @ 47:
Your caps key is stuck, stupid.
Seriously, does anyone REALLY know what happened to Randi when she got hurt recently?
Mugging? An accident? What?
I heard her on her show when she came back saying she spent a long time in the dentist chair having her broken teeth permanently reattached to her gums. Sounded nasty.
I just want to know the truth if anyone knows, no rumors.
My last post was misdirected. My mistake.
swarmofkillermonkeys @ 31 "He is absolutely ready to go when there is a realistic chance of success."
That's exactly Speaker Pelosi's perspective as well, and why impeachment is off the table.
Don't bet on the Chairman's words on this subject. He agrees with Pelosi, and he also knows that impeachments cannot be run (politically) during election years.
If you didn't know that the reason not to impeach and fail was that it would allow the War Party to further endanger the Constitution, then you are playing with half a deck.
Oh, and to the idiot who thinks that Chairman Conyers is the same as Diane Feinstain -- you are hilarious.
The whole world was created ten minutes ago. There is no history to consult. Anything is possible. Accuracy of analysis is a waste of time. Both parties are the same. If we hope hard enough, it will change facts.
And the same people believing that ROT deride Christians for being superstitious???
Concise, and direct to the pulse of most Americans. Randy Rhodes is beautiful both in and out; and as eloquent as many Americans wish we could be. Thanks Randy.
I guess when you sit in congress TOO long; the first to go is your hearing.
WE THE PEOPLE should give Conyers and the rest of the old-timers a hearing aide; perhaps we can DEMAND that they take a refresher course in civics; paticularly on the subject of U.S. Constitution and Congressional duties. It is obvious that the are not on the same page with the founding fathers and most of the AMERICAN people.
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