November 16, 2007 11:02 PM
Open Thread
from the delightful satirists at Headzup.
You can also read more on Cheney and the Iran NIE at ThinkProgress.
Open thread below....Happy Saturday.
from the delightful satirists at Headzup.
You can also read more on Cheney and the Iran NIE at ThinkProgress.
Open thread below....Happy Saturday.

first
skippy walks the wga picket line at nbc yesterday, and sees the top of john edwards head.
also, a newseek riddle: what's the difference between markos moulitsas and karl rove?
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poor kusinich...don't worry buddy, you got my vote!
Yea, Dennis knows he's being ignored cause he wants to speak the truth so badly, it is another indicator of the state were in.
And its Kucinich with a 'c'.
Dont Taser me, bro.. well, we all know how much cops like tasers, cops in Canada like theirs too
BUSH REFUSES PARDON OF THANKSGIVING TURKEY, ORDERS WATERBOARDING OF HOLIDAY BIRD
NYC Fire-Fighters planning anti-Rudy campaign.
Hopefully the media will obsess with this campaign as much as they obsessed with the Swift Boat attacks against Kerry.
Newest Army copter overheats in flight
I find this interesting, I worked on the AH64 when it was being brought into use and the defense contractors ALL made something very EXPENSIVE for these aircraft, and the amount of $$$ thrown at just replacement spare parts was mind boggling. Evaluate the multi-layered monster of equipment and then throw in a war that comtinually destroys this equipment and and rampant war profiteering and its too complex and out of control for any oversight committee to ever fully grasp, much less confront
Was Romney behind own phone attacks? The company that did the anti-Mormon attacks on Romney is Western Wats, which happens to be based in Orem, Utah. The founder is a prominent Mormon, and many of the employees of this company have donated (a lot) to Romney.
Karl Rove has not retired, folks...
"This is not a dictatorship but something more complex: the tyranny of popularity." - ALBERTO BARRERA TYSZKA, a biographer of President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela.
Why did Cheney sound like a bad Ted Kennedy impersonation?
Mr. Sifter @ 6:
Righto. I'm sure they will obsess on something negative about a rethuglican. Nice of you to think of it though.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... uhh.... uhh... we can't get fooled again.
Open thread - media for consideration:
History Channel
Baghdad Diary
CNN (?)
Broken Government - Waging War with the VA
KUCINICH 2008
George (~Bush) @ 8:
Of course not... he's also writing at Newsweek (!) now and Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal, besides his traditional "turd blossom" role in politics. Isn't Rove originally from the Salt Lake area anyway?
Tonight is a meteorite shower, and if you have an open enough sky, you might also catch sight of the new 'largest object in the solar system,' which is now larger than the sun (the cloud of a comet that exploded).
Dr. Know @ 14:
The Channel for Propagandizing Neocon Lies.
Did you, for instance, know that there was a PROPHESY that Baghdad would be destroyed, just before the End Times?
The only thing God would need then, would be a second pearl harbor.
Btw, do you know about this "Baby Moses Law"? I read that a woman leaving a child she couldn't care for next to a dumpster at a Fire Station did not qualify the child to be a Baby Moses, or maybe his mother would be prosecuted, whatever. I wonder if she'd like a 'drink' of water.
'Bush is the Baby Jesus' didn't go over very well. And no one is going to mistake him for Napoleon. But soon enough A Story Channel will have the proof. Fk 'em.
odanny @ 8 "its too complex and out of control for any oversight committee to ever fully grasp, much less confront"
The MIC is an active force that will require an active containment. One oversight committee digging into a mountain of turds can only reach so far.
RICO Act prosecutions against the RNC would help a lot. They're already under subpoena for massive vote-fraud.
Paul in LA @ 18:
Its called "The Hearstory Channel" . . . tonight's special . . . "Rosebud and the 8 pound baby Jesus".
Paul in LA @ 18:
I don't watch it 24/7, and can't say that I've ever seen any of the things you mention.
I do, however, watch the Modern Marvels series, and I saw nothing particularly out of reason in the aforementioned show. I am aware that the Hearst Empire owns the HC, but just as with all media, I hope to be enlightened enough to tell propaganda from reason.
When you get right down to it, if you want to totally avoid agitprop, you'll have to throw your TV off a tall building. Everyone has an agenda these days...
But I feel your pain... ;-)
AJFan @ 20:
What on earth would the baby Jesus need with a snow sled?
Dr. Know @ 22:
He doesn't really need it . . its just a memory that haunts him his whole life . . . represents the theft of his childhood and the loss of his innocence.
Report from FutureNews: Sept 11, 2010:
Presisident Hillary Clinton announced: "Thanks to FISA being passed by congress a few years back, MY NSA has captured five terrorists in our homeland. These domestic terrorists better known as: Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Tom DeLay, Michael Mukasey and Dianne Feinstein. Thank God for FISA. Beware American neocons; I have my eye on you too."
President Clinton continued with: "Thank God for enhanced interrogation; else we would never have learned their future plots to blow up the Hollywood sign and that gigantic cross off I-40 just east of Amarillo Tx. We stopped these evil doers dead in their tracks."
FISA and Mukasey said, "How do you like me now?"
This is the scenario I plan to offer my dumb ass neo con relatives on Thanksgiving.
AJFan @ 23:
Talk about your mixed-up metaphors... ;-)
I have never before connected the story of Citizen Kane with the story of Jesus.
Must need better intoxicants...
Beau Jangles @ 24:
A few corrections. Make that President Kucinich, roll-back all unconstitutional powers, and add Hillary to the terrorist list.
AJFan @ 20:
And don't forget CNN's dramatic buildup to the Endless War on Terror: "God's Warriors"
Dr. Know @ 25:
Its a contradiction . . . no connection . . . you are correct. I don't intoxicate myself but I really need to sleep.
Peace.
Dr. Know @ 27:
They had to round up some goat herders and put them in orange suits to play the part of the global "bad guys".
The so-called leaders all turn out to be drug impaired mentally ill people who are placed on stage right before the lights go on and the show starts.
Ah, my friend: I can only hope that Dennis becomes president, but chances are very low. Dennis would knock out wire tapping and waterboarding in an instant. I don't know about Hillary. However, Dennis would have these bastards tried and hung for treason. So in a Dennis way: we;re both right. :)
BTW. Kucinich has my full support till the primaries are over.
AJFan @ 29:
Ah, my friend: I can only hope that Dennis becomes president, but chances are very low. Dennis would knock out wire tapping and waterboarding in an instant. I don’t know about Hillary. However, Dennis would have these bastards tried and hung for treason. So in a Dennis way: we;re both right.
BTW. Kucinich has my full support till the primaries are over.
Check out this vid if you wanna see
Bush (W.) cry.Well sorta cry. Well, no, I think he might actually be thinking he's a real asshole (deep down inside where you can't escape the truth). You decide:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGvnZskX5Yc
PS If you comment and don't say, "God bless him", it won't get posted. I did give a lot of thumbs down though. (It's a pretty pathetic sight-- the vid.)
odanny @ 5:
I'm ashamed to be Canadian (except I'm anti-nationalism, so... I guess I'm just very disappointed). Those cops belong in jail!!
It's repetitive and redundant, but it must be said:
You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud
You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins
Israel is not interested in peace:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/925054.html
The upcoming peace summit between the Israelis and the Palestinians scheduled to take place in Annapolis, MD is a feeble attempt at propaganda.
Read more:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/925053.html
Berkley Point @ 37:
Well, yeah. And the endless farce/saga continues.
Most important place to watch right now is Lebanon.
Not that the so-called peace summit isn't worth paying attention to. Quite the contrary. It's just that the world tunes out after planned failures put us all to planned sleep. Especially in America where it is never news.
I don't think we've ever had a more evil, arrogant, reckless public official than Cheney.
Batocchio @ 41:
Daz right. Beyond anything imaginable. If humanity is still around in 100 years which seems relatively doubtful at this point, this insane mother fucker will have left an immediate imprint like a nuclear-nazi mothergoose in full view/cognito/carnival mask.
The general public doesn't have the apt health insurance to see or get around he who laughs while he decides what the decider says.
If your planning on flying to Canada you had better speak English and not have a panic attack or our federal police have the green light to kill you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh27BmXzodo&feature=related
These officers continued to serve for a month, until late this week when the video was forced back into the public domain.
TASER Intl. is taken down here.
http://thegallopingbeaver.blogspot.com/
Open Mouth, Insert Wattle: T. Boone Chickens
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http://www.baylor.edu/Lariat
It's time for us all to make a resolution, in the interest of World Peace and to preserve the United States.
Let us NEVER, NEVER, NEVER again elect, or permit to be appointed, to the highest offices in our land,
1. A craven, god-crazed coward, or
2. An arrogant, megalomaniacal bastard, or,
3. A demented doofus, or,
4. A psychotic freak who claims to take direction from other-worldly creatures, or
5. A hypocritical, mendacious, incompetent, publicity-hound, or
6. A lying, devious puppet who puts another nation's interest before those of the U.S..
Gee..............that kind of cuts down the field of contenders, doesn't it?
Maybe we need a new one.
Every time I see a picture of Cheney, Peter, Paul and Mary's 'If I had a hammer...', tune and lyrics, pops into my head.
Strange coincidence, or does anyone else experience this?
Blogs Save America
“If I ran this place” said that man with this face,
“I’d bring back honor, not sex and disgrace.”
So he ran to be leader but could not win fair
And waited around ‘till Supremes put him there.
And it wasn’t so bad; probably just luck;
It was going ok - until tragedy struck.
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We’ll search nooks and crannies in Afghanistan.
We’ll bring back Bin Laden dead or alive
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So forces were sent into Afghanistan
To seek out Bin Laden; hunt where he ran.
And after a while but not many attacks
The leader then said, “Let’s go bomb Iraq!”
“But why?” we all asked, “Bin’s not in that land!”
“Why, Saddam helped Al Qaeda; for that we won’t stand.
And he has those weapons and worst of all – nukes.
And I chatted with God - and he told me to.”
So in we did go with our Shock and our Awe,
Took over the country and locked up the oil.
But where are those weapons? Gone by the way?
“Why that’s classified info! You know I can’t say.”
But what of Bin Laden? Is he over there?
“I really don’t know and I really don’t care.
It’s about helping people and setting them free.
They’ll greet us with roses and dance in the street.”
We wouldn’t have known this just wasn’t right
Without internet bloggers and tell-truth websites.
They’ve told us of torture; our side using gas
On women and children - whoever might pass.
And hard to believe in this land of the free
They’ve told of him spying on you and on me.
He’ll do what he wants no matter the law
And for those disagreeing - beware Shock and Awe.
Those running these sites in truth do believe,
Believe we should know and not be deceived.
Believe in the power of folks who together
Can stand up to wrongs and make the world better.
There’s Crooks and there’s Kos and Clearinghouse, too,
Raw Story and Buzzflash to name just a few.
But if all else fails, we still have VOODOO!
Voodoo is found in all sorts of places
But our voodoo dolls will have neo-con faces.
Bush and/or Cheney and Condi’s there too
All with Black Hearts just waiting for you
To stick them with pins and make them do good
Or whatever else that you think they should.
We’ll make them and sell them to one and to all
And part of the proceeds made from these dolls
Will go to our heroes running these blogs.
More proof the "war on terra" is going so well.........
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21855920/
Oh ya, and the opium industry is now expanded...good work Bush...oh ya, and more Canadian soldiers killed for no good reason, except NATO being employed to do the US dirty work, cuz hey, not enough soldiers ya know.......
Many people, not just Fox News viewers, don't fully understand the need for impeachment of Cheney and then Bush.
I am writing a series of three articles that put forward the reality of that need in terms of world opinion, the crimes of this administration, and ultimately the danger of allowing this kind of behavior to continue unchecked.
This is the first.
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/so-impeachment-will-make-the-...
I just got back in from the mountains, and I'm glad I stayed until nearly dawn because the comet that exploded was in the sky (it rises early in the morning and sets soon afterward this far south...the further north the better) and it is HUGE. And bright. It's dazzling bright, and about the size of three Venuses or four Jupiters. A scandal of a astronomical observation, the --oh shit what's THAT-- moment of which you have long dreamt.
It should be showy for at least another couple of weeks -- well worth getting a chance to see it, since you probably won't see anything this big (not the sun or moon) in the night sky again.
Anybody able to make it through the Karl Rove "Long Distance Learning Class" on c-span.org right now? Could only take a few minutes of that lying crumbbum so didn't anything new out of it.
Beau Jangles @ 24:
Where did Clinton "get" the information -- about who to torture -- unless someone/something else told her "what info" existed? You're making a non-sense argument to "justify" illegal abuse of prisoners.
Think about this: If someone wakes up to you and says, "I know that person has information, go torture them," the right question isn't, "Gee, should I torture them," but to ask the person tell you this: "How do you know that this person has this information and should be tortured?"
American citizsens and state officials should work to pressure Congress to remove Pelosi as Speaker. There are enough GOP and DNC Members of Congress who despise Pelosi who would form a majority to unseat her.
Candidate for Congress announces intention to support removal of Pelosi as Speaker. [ See Comment ]
Congressional Candidate announces support for effort to remove Pelosi as Speaker, clearing way for impeachment: [ Contact information ]
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
Has anyone anywhere sat down and compiled a list of those globalist fat cats in this country who are actually profiting from the devaluation of the dollar? I've read a few articles about Wall Street parasites deserting the dollar in favor of the Yen or the Yuan or the Euro and just wondered how many are willing to sacrifice our own economy buy supporting someone else's in the name of "enhanced shareholder value".
Remove Speaker @ 56 "Congressional Candidate announces support for effort to remove Pelosi as Speaker"
Heinrich will wipe up the floor with Call.
Anyhow, even if Call were elected, he would sit in the next Congress, not this one.
Dr. Know @ 21 "I do, however, watch the Modern Marvels series, and I saw nothing particularly out of reason in the aforementioned show. I am aware that the Hearst Empire owns the HC, but just as with all media, I hope to be enlightened enough to tell propaganda from reason."
No, they outright lie and redact history, spreading false rumors as fact, fomenting war and hatred -- they are utterly despicable.
This show on how prophecy said Bagdad would be destroyed was on last week. Anything from HC, HC Int. or the other related channels (like A&E) which has a copyright date after 2000 is likely to be tainted propaganda.
It is not 'the Hearst Empire' that owns it, they are a part owner:
Sky News Corp is MURDOCH. NBC is owned by warmonger GE. Disney is the Evil Rat who doesn't give a hot damn if kids are turned into rat food in third world countries (and Disney owns ABC, and Lifetime, as well).
A&E Networks is: "A&E Network, The History Channel, The Biography Channel, History International, The History Channel en Español, Military History Channel, Crime & Investigation Network" (Ibid) which promulgate a great deal of negative propaganda.
"The formation of NBC Universal saw the establishment of NBC Universal Cable, which oversees the distribution, marketing, and advertisement sales for thirteen channels (Bravo, Bravo HD+ (eventually renamed Universal HD), Chiller, CNBC, CNBC World, MSNBC, mun2, Sci Fi, ShopNBC, Telemundo, Sleuth, USA Network, Weather Plus, and the Olympic Games on cable). NBC Universal Cable also manages the company's investments in A&E, the History Channel, History Channel International, the Biography Channel, National Geographic International, the Sundance Channel, and TiVo."
Add to that nearly all late-night shows, and most of the newspapers, and you have the behemoth that ate democracy.
Shun these stations for any kind of 'factual' historical or political information. Modern Marvels is not a problem, but for sure the next thousand History Channel 'documentaries' will be.
Jefferson didn't have sex with his slaves, Lincoln wasn't gay, Baghdad was destroyed by Bush, not God, and Bush is not Truman (yet).
Paul in LA @ 60:
Well hell, Dude, that describes most of the world's media - and always has. ;-)
And you know old bromide, "History is written by the winners."
Haven't seen it, as I don't watch TV that much - and most certainly don't look towards the tube or most newspapers for unrefutable news. I do, however, occasionally keep up with the enemies tactics. I'll keep my eyes peeled.
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