Meet The Press: Giuliani's Crook and Liar
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Tim Russert asks his Meet The Press panel if Giuliani's BFF Bernard Kerik should be the proverbial albatross around the presidential candidate's neck. Especially since, as Giuliani responded, though Kerik "had issues," the end justified the means for Rudy.
Heather takes it from here:
Byron York gives some talking points from the campaign about how he hires a lot of people and unless there's some sort of problem they're not really going to pay much attention to them. Gwen Ifill calls him out and asks, "Do they really think that's going to work?" York tells the truth with his facial expressions and then says "It's one guy. I think obviously where he went to far was pushing him for homeland security."
E.J. Dionne: They've taken his name off the prison they named after him.....When it's a guy that was this close to him you have to ask a lot of questions.....This is the first time something out of Mayor Giuliani's record has really gotten traction in the national press."
Ron Brownstein: And in fact it is a reminder that if he is the nominee, time will begin again. It's the morning after and we will begin to explore the New York record and debate it and discuss it in a way that we haven't so far.
My question would be why not and whose fault is that?
Well, exactly. It's stunning to me to see how the media and Republicans will try to spin and justify everything to not detract from Rudy's frontrunner status. Can you imagine if a Democratic candidate had a such a high-profile relationship with an indicted criminal with mob ties? Would it take as much to gain traction in the MSM?
Fristed by Rudy. Ouch.
Yes, and people still think the MSM is "liberal"
We are doomed...
I'm sure Tweetie will just love him through his problems.
I'll bet he smells manly.
what can you expect from a pedophile priest harborer and protector.
if giuliani is president....fathers lock up your sons.
That quote from Rudy about Kerik is amazing. Would people accept if he said, "Sure I hired a pedophile to run a daycare, but look at how well behaved the children are now."
Crooks & Liars - the name of the site, yet it is surprising that any of them actually are crooks or liars? This is a system, worldwide and in play for thousands of years. That said, don't respond "What is the answer?" You and I are the answer, not a block headed diatribe or parroted solutions. Everywhere on this site I see one parrot answering another parrot with the lines handed them by one or other crook or liar. That is the situation, so start thinking what a solution would mean! When you have started doing that is when you should have the beginnings of the cheek to make a comment. Read your comment before posting and honestly consider where you heard it. Until then, we are doomed, because we have nothing to do with any of it, we are machines slaving for our betters sent to rule us; the ones whose words we spit back and forth at one another, in this deluded misery they call life.
RUDY PROMISES HOMELAND SECURITY POST TO KERIK, EVEN IF JAILED!
[Would it take as much to gain traction in the MSM?]
Wins the most rhetorical question of the week prize! :)
Yes, I agree, and no it would not! Corporate media is little more than a GOP marketing firm, and they are apparently willing to spin yarn after yarn of fabricated reality.
MSM = Marketing Swindlers Media
the 'day after' is going to be too late by then he will have pardoned bush and cheney.
Can I just say, that watching the 60 year retrospective today on Meet the Press reminded me, yet again, just how shallow that show really is. Canned and pre-packaged with Russert making trite intros, then each figure given a sound bite as an emblem of all that they are, vacuous and shallow. Sadly that is actually all the show is, even with or without a retrospective. Byron York? Are we really at that point in our times when we take Byron York seriously on anything? What a shallow and meaningless show.
fukkk timmeh! he's scum!
"Dimmi con chi vai e ti diro chi sei."
It's an Italian proverb: "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are."
The fact that Giuliani thinks our past foreign policy has nothing to do with the rise of Islamic extremism should preclude him from even being a candidate.
If you wald into a room with shiton you rshoes, peolle notice. When you try to rub it off, they notice. It still sinks.
Kerik is shit on Giuliani's shoes. It's that simple.
wow these guys really want us to believe that a lot of us like Giuliani, don't they!
Italian politicians linked to criminals in New York. I am shocked, truly shocked, I tell you!
just more of the same from the gop, we the gop crooks can do no wrong........
I think kerik should be guilani's running mate. That would be ideal. They could spin the crap out of that and people are dumb enuf to eat it up. except us here on this blog.
The MSM hasn't even mentioned the child rapist that Rudy gave a job to and continues to publicly support.
Imagine if a Democratic candidate sheltered and employed a child rapist.
I mean, Cackles, Boobies and Hand Clapping are enough to disqualify you from the White House, but having a Mafia BFF and a child rapist BFF...not so much.
Well, I actually would have preferred this to come out AFTER Rudy had won the nomination. If the primary debates eliminate the guys with the greatest vulnerabilities, the GOP might actually have to pick a candidate who could redefine the party and pose a real challenge to the Democrats. Ron Paul's promise to immediately pull the troops out of Iraq could pull a lot of votes from Clinton. Chuck Hagel could reestablish the party as fiscal conservative rather than social. It would be better to let the GOPers pick a man with feet of clay and then tear him apart.
"Can you imagine if a Democratic candidate had a such a high-profile relationship with an indicted criminal with mob ties? Would it take as much to gain traction in the MSM?'
Yes I can. One word Nicole - Hsu. While not having Italian mob ties he is a friend of a another Mob Family. The Clintons.
Peace.
For the fiftieth time, the way to silence people like Russert is to not watch MTP or his other lame show on Saturday--if everyone who complains about the content of the program suddenly stopped watching his ratings will tank. When that happens, advertisers complain and eventually they get cancelled. Same goes for Matthews and This Week with Stephanopoulos. Noone watches either of them in my family (which is large) because we have better ways to spend our time.
Jack Welch was host for a fundraiser given on Nantucket in August for Rudy--Matthews, Russert, et al were all in attendance. They are all pushing for him to be the next President because he has promised the business community that nothing is going to change under his administration--it will be 4 more years of Bush but Guiliani at the helm.
These clowns on television aren't even trying to hide their schoolboy crushes on Guiliani--they want him to be the nominee. They haven't been discussing the Regan vs. Newscorps lawsuit--why do you think that is? That should be topic A until there are answers to all the red flags that have gone up over this case. I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
Russert, Matthews, etc., don't in anyway influence who I vote for--I can more than make up my own mind--and I can see through their phoniness and that of the candidate that they are pushing.
If these bastards have the audacity to send this bastard out to represent the republican party as their candidate, we are going to have a fields day with his nasty, disgusting , crooked ass.
human@23, if you think the Clintons are a "mob" family, then what in God's name are the Bush's?
P.S. Hsu is not a word.
We expect Republicans to be corrupt, so it isn't really news when the evidence spills out into public view. The theme of their party is that the welfare of the few outweighs the welfare of the many. So why should we wonder when they deliver on their promises to take whatever they can get?
"Can you imagine if a Democratic candidate had a such a high-profile relationship with an indicted criminal with mob ties?"
I would expect that the Democratic party would regulate itself, no need for the MSM to rip them to shreds. From that aspect I think everyone is missing the point. Rudy Goul-iani has (not had, still has) very strong and obvious connections to organized crime. That is not surprising as he is a successful politician from NYC. It's nearly impossible to be a successful politician in NYC without making deals with the mob. The surprising part should be that the RNC KNOWS he has mob ties. They KNOW he let the mob run the city and he used his office to protect rather than prosecute "Rudy friendly" mobsters. They KNOW he continues to use mob influence and money in his campaign. So that says a lot more about the repug party than it does the MSM or even Rudy. Not only do they accept and condone mob ties, they put the guy with the greatest connections to organized crime at the head of the pack. That is the thing that dems should be playing up. It's the simple fact that repugs know about this and they still want ANOTHER president who is a criminal. Shout that from the roof tops and you'll do real damage, if anyone still gives a crap about this country.
This is the best the GOP can come up with so far? Rudy G. Sad thing is this man is leading the repub party at the moment and why? Scaring (brainwashing) people into thinking he'll protect them from TERROR. If he wins (doubt it but, God help us) think of the people he'll want to appoint to office. The man makes me sick!
Is he the best candidate for the GOP. Well nooooo, but he's the most electable! I love our country! Dimwits everywhere.
the media can go to hell for carrying Rudy's water. I'll vomit if I see his fanboys Matthews, Mike Allen and Chuck Todd suck up to him anymore
StCyrlyMe @ 25:
This assumes that the advisors to our nominee have the desire to win instead of being "nice" like we have in the past.
I have been saying that I wish that the GOP would nominate St. Rudy so we could tear him a new one. However, I really wonder if we have the will to use all of the ammunition Rudy gives us.
Frankly, I really tired of having "integrity" in the campaign process and losing. How did that work out for America and almost 4K Americans in Iraq?
Why all this concern about Giuliani?
Think how poor Kerik feels, being constantly associated with Rudy.
It sure isn't gonna help his cases with all the juries he's gonna have to face, to keep having 'Giuliani this, and Giuliani that', continually thrown in his face.
He's gonna have to break the habit of calling Giuliani 'Godfather', and kissing his ass and ring.
The Right Wing-Nut owned papers refuse to report or cover up for any crimes of their own party.
THE NEW AXIS OF EVIL: RUSSERT, WILLIAMS AND MATTHEWS...............
Giuliani is a criminal. Period.
Giuliani is a verb.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n22_v45/ai_14667462/print
Because myths die slowly and the echo chamber promotion of Giuliani , saying he's " America's Mayor " was an easy sell . Mayor walks down street " looking tuff" , therefore hey he must be a " hero" , look how he responded to 9-11 . Unfortunately , the real truth was lying just beneath the surface easy to find. From The location to his emergency response center , the awful radio equipment , his partnership with KERIK ( and it was MORE than a "mistake" ), framing the problem that way is more covering up and spinning , which most did in the MSM . They'll drag their sycophantic feet , avoiding a serious look at Giuliani until the corruption charges are so numerous , they can no longer ignore all of the sleaze between the new yorkers .
I think Giulliani is a great (9/11) big pile (911) of vile (911). If rudy is not (911) elected (911) than things (911) are improving by (911) default.
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