First

On October 7th, 2003, President Bush famously declared of the outing of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame, "I don't know if we're going to find out the senior administration official." Now we have more insight as to Bush's misplaced confidence that the truth would remain hidden. In his new tell-all book, former White House press secretary Scott McClellan claims President Bush himself played an instrumental role in the failed cover up.

For the details, see:
"McClellan Book Confirms Bush's October 2003 Plamegate Lie."

can that asshole NOW be charged with treason?

hope @ 6:

But that's just an itty bitty issue (one of 1,000)--not enough to begin impeachment hearings, right?

Actually it is a great big huge ass reason and one that even a conservative can embrace. It is out and out Treason to out a CIA operative in a time of war. A war created by those who outed her.

Agreed.. TREASON!!

xoites defends Constitution @ 7:

hope @ 6:

But that's just an itty bitty issue (one of 1,000)--not enough to begin impeachment hearings, right?

Actually it is a great big huge ass reason and one that even a conservative can embrace. It is out and out Treason to out a CIA operative in a time of war. A war created by those who outed her.

I know, I know. I wish Pelosi knew.

TREASON... and IMPEACHMENT...

Finally ON THE TABLE like a great big Thanksgiving TURKEY!
McClellan finally handed us a KNIFE.
START CARVING!

I guess this is when the neocons will chirp in again with the "she was never covert" talking point BS....

You guys are jumping the gun. While I personally believe these 5 men (and many more in the Admin) are guilty of treason, I would happily take convictions on perjury, fraud, conspiracy, you name it. I have been for impeachment for years, pick your crime, we've got plenty to choose from. What will it take Nancy?

Anyways, my question, is: why Scotty why? This is only a prereleased nuggest from a book that doesn't come out for 6 months April of 08 is very interesting timing. Why this book? What's he attempting to gain? He's no more a truth-teller then any of the other assholes he worked with every day. What am I missing?

There was a hearing waaay back in 2005 in which former CIA officials testified re: what grave damage the Plame outing did to US intelligence gathering, how many years it would probably take to recover, and the danger other operatives were exposed to as a result of the outing.
Nobody gave a flying f*ck. It is a pure pity that nothing has been done and I'll be surprised if anything comes of McClellan's disclosure.

rat bastahd @ 17:

You guys are jumping the gun. While I personally believe these 5 men (and many more in the Admin) are guilty of treason, I would happily take convictions on perjury, fraud, conspiracy, you name it. I have been for impeachment for years, pick your crime, we've got plenty to choose from. What will it take Nancy?

Anyways, my question, is: why Scotty why? This is only a prereleased nuggest from a book that doesn't come out for 6 months April of 08 is very interesting timing. Why this book? What's he attempting to gain? He's no more a truth-teller then any of the other assholes he worked with every day. What am I missing?

Patrick Fitzgerald has not finished his investigation. He can conveine a new Grand Jury, bring Snotty Scotty in and make him testify. Treason is what it is and being charged with and convicted of Treason is what they deserve.

Andy K @ 22:

xoites defends Constitution @ 12:

What i like about charging them with Treason is it is clean and simple and won't take thirty years to prosecute. I am against the death penalty but i think they should get life without parole.

Then we can go over all the other crimes when the corporate media is cowed.

Uhm...And I may be wrong on this...But I think that if Bush & Cheney were impeached and convicted the only penalty would be dismissal from office. And they'd have had their day in court and couldn't be tried later in a regular court- that would be double jeopardy. Hate to be a buzz killer.

However, I think, and once again I may be wrong, that if they weren't brought to trial until after their terms of office were up, Bush & Cheney might face harsher penalties.

Also, as far as Bush's then Chief of Staff (Card?) & Rove are concerned, none of the above is applicable. Expect them to be turned when facin' fraud & RICO charges.

I think when it comes to Treason whatever safeguards to a standing President are can be overcome.

Marc @ 24:

Judgement day is coming
They might not like what it’s gonna say
Judgement day is coming
The holy hypocrites are gonna pay

-Wackiavelli (written in '04)

Democracy is coming
To the U S A!

Leonard Cohen

The really important part of all this is how is the so called "watchdog media" going to deal with this information. Are they just going to act like it doesn't matter? My vote is yes and it tells a great deal about them and how they dealt with Clinton's fellatio problem with such intensity and devotion for so long.

Andy K @ 26:

xoites defends Constitution @ 23:

Andy K @ 22:

xoites defends Constitution @ 12:

Uhm...And I may be wrong on this...But I think that if Bush & Cheney were impeached and convicted the only penalty would be dismissal from office. And they'd have had their day in court and couldn't be tried later in a regular court- that would be double jeopardy. Hate to be a buzz killer.

However, I think, and once again I may be wrong, that if they weren't brought to trial until after their terms of office were up, Bush & Cheney might face harsher penalties.

Also, as far as Bush's then Chief of Staff (Card?) & Rove are concerned, none of the above is applicable. Expect them to be turned when facin' fraud & RICO charges.

I think when it comes to Treason whatever safeguards to a standing President are can be overcome.

Upon further study, individuals impeached and convicted are still open to prosecution through the courts.

Sometimes I'm glad when I'm wrong.

We can't get it right until we go over the details.

Plame Leak by White House Senior Staff: Treason

Bush's commutation of Scooter Libby now all makes sense, if he ended up behind bars, he might have squealed that bush and dick were ultimately behind the original plan to leak the covert identity of Valerie Plame.

That, my friends, is the textbook definition of treason.

Shorter McClellan: I Was A Paid Liar For Bush.
By: Christy Hardin Smith
Tuesday, November 20th, 2007 at 9:50 am

Former WH flack Scott McClellan has a new book coming out wherein he reveals that people in the Bush Administration had him fronting out lies to the public about the WH leak of Valerie Plame Wilson’s CIA ties. Color me shocked. From E&P:
..”The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.
“There was one problem. It was not true.
“I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President’s chief of staff, and the president himself.”
Do tell, Scott. How, exectly, were “Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President’s chief of staff, and the president himself” involved in your lying to the public? I’d like all the details, please. Including when you learned that these were lies and what you did to correct the public misperceptions, if anything, what sorts of discussions were had about this in the WH, and whether you questioned the information when it was first given to you — or just obligingly parroted as you were told unless and until you were confronted with the fact that you were telling lies. And I’m certain I’m not alone in that sentiment. For your sake, I do hope you were fully forthcoming about this with the FBI. I’m just saying.
I think Kevin Drum summed this mini-kerfuffle up nicely:
Now, Lord knows I don’t want to question McClellan’s claim that his book was “written with no agenda other than to record his experiences and insights for the benefit of history.” But would it be presumptuous of me to suspect that his explanation of Plamegate is somehow going to make it out as nothing more than a silly mistake that the press blew all out of proportion?
Nothing like a little game of pass the buck between the smarm merchants of Bushworld, is there? Note the utter failure to take responsibility for lying to the public, the shunting of said responsibility onto others who have also failed to take responsibility for their respective actions, and the working of “the President’s chief of staff” into the mix of players. Anyone want to place a bet as to whether Andy Card gets set up as the go to fall guy? Emptywheel caught the same Card reference, and mentions the Wells’ card and notes that “just as a reminder, Card and Scottie left the White House within a week of each other–both happening just before Turdblossom’s final grand jury appearance.” (Anyone else’s spidey sense getting a little tingle? And while we’re asking questions, will Scottie own up to being one of the sources for the NYDailyNews story on Rove’s bush league handling of the whole mess? Enquiring minds and all.)
Perhaps, Scottie will spill all the assorted beans to get even for the Bush Administration treating his momma so shabbily in her TX gubernatorial bid. Not bloody likely…but stranger things have happened in gooberville.
(Illustration entitled Free Manure By Mr. Fish via Commandante Agi.)

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/20/shorter-mcclellan-i-was-a-paid-lia...

xoites defends Constitution @ 23:

Andy K @ 22:

xoites defends Constitution @ 12:

What i like about charging them with Treason is it is clean and simple and won't take thirty years to prosecute. I am against the death penalty but i think they should get life without parole.

Then we can go over all the other crimes when the corporate media is cowed.

Uhm...And I may be wrong on this...But I think that if Bush & Cheney were impeached and convicted the only penalty would be dismissal from office. And they'd have had their day in court and couldn't be tried later in a regular court- that would be double jeopardy. Hate to be a buzz killer.

However, I think, and once again I may be wrong, that if they weren't brought to trial until after their terms of office were up, Bush & Cheney might face harsher penalties.

Also, as far as Bush's then Chief of Staff (Card?) & Rove are concerned, none of the above is applicable. Expect them to be turned when facin' fraud & RICO charges.

I think when it comes to Treason whatever safeguards to a standing President are can be overcome.

It would not be double jeopardy. The Senate Trial is not a criminal trial. The Senate can make it's own rules regarding the trial and all it's procedures. They don't even have to introduce evidence if that what they want to do. 'Course this is all for naught. Because the Neocons are still in power...Clinton,Pelosi, Weak Kneed Reid, Hoyer....

Many are asking why Scotty would do this. If I remember correctly, his Mother ran for office and the Repub party machine did not wholeheartily support her. Scotty goes with Petty. So maybe this is his way of striking back. If it is. He better be careful, he'll probably get suicided.
Peace.

Not just Valerie Plame, they destroyed the cover for Brewster-Jennings, too.

TREASON!

it could be Fitzmas all over again!

Straight Shooter @ 35:

Not just Valerie Plame, they destroyed the cover for Brewster-Jennings, too.

TREASON!

No one cares enough in congress...they don't give a sheet,

Andy @ 39:

Straight Shooter @ 35:

Not just Valerie Plame, they destroyed the cover for Brewster-Jennings, too.

TREASON!

No one cares enough in congress...they don't give a sheet,

If nothing comes of this i suggest we start sending our members of congress stuffed clowns with little notes asking them if they have any work experience.

nirak @ 40:

AGREED=TREASON
Off with Bush's and Cheneys HEAD

You have the tense right. Between the two of them they posses one head.

kudos to john dean -- he's one of the rare republicans who has consistently seen through these neo-con nutters and spoke out against it.

There actually should be a congressional hearing. Bring Scotty in and grill him. Find out all he knows, do it in public.

Then any member of congress who is in any way supportive of this President will either run and hide or march down Pennsyvania Ave and demand the resignation of the entire junta.

Then we can arrest them, try them and if found guilty imprisson them.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From The Declaration of Independence
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, It is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, Laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to Laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Every Democrat should be screaming IMPEACH now, it's on the table. Ironic, it's the Thanksgiving table with all the turkey Repugs as the menu.

“I had unknowingly passed along false information."

I don't buy it. I think he knew he was lying, thought it back then and upon rehearing what he said back then tonight I still think it's obvious. But even if he's telling the truth now, he lied back then (according to Merrium-Websters), as there's a definition of "lie" that goes like: Something untrue told by someone whether it be known to be true or not.

Stanley Rosenthal @ 53:

“I had unknowingly passed along false information."

I don't buy it. I think he knew he was lying, thought it back then and upon rehearing what he said back then tonight I still think it's obvious. But even if he's telling the truth now, he lied back then (according to Merrium-Websters), as there's a definition of "lie" that goes like: Something untrue told by someone whether it be known to be true or not.

Fine, Stan, but Scotty is not the real issue. He can get immunity as far as i am concerned. His testimony should end this travesty once and for all.

Sorry, i meant this quote:

FreedomOfInformationAct @ 49:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From The Declaration of Independence
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, It is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, Laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to Laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

xoites defends Constitution @ 36:

33 Human

In Watergate there was a straw that broke the camel's back; the Saturday Night Massacre.

This cabal of usurpers have been piling bales upon bales onto this poor camel's back and it can take no more.

I agree. Hopefully this straw will be a thick one.
Peace.

please no more merry fitzmass , never again , fitz knew this shit all the while , they just threw libby as a bone knowing hed get pardoned ,thier all in it together!

Haven't you guys heard? Impeachment is off the table. Pursuing this any further would only have "stunt" value. Nothing to see here.

JasonS @ 63:

Haven't you guys heard? Impeachment is off the table. Pursuing this any further would only have "stunt" value. Nothing to see here.

Fine, we will keep it off the table and put it on the floor!

Of the House where it belongs!

Andy @ 66:

tyree @ 61:

please no more merry fitzmass , never again , fitz knew this shit all the while , they just threw libby as a bone knowing hed get pardoned ,thier all in it together!

thank you...I saw this and was so pissed that this fat asshat admits to fibbing in a friggin "book" "to be released in April" while our country goes bankrupt and we plow money into a war sending our kids to a sand pit...maybe that orange on a toothpick head of his started getting too heavy for him to sleep at night but it's too late Scotty...you are still a cowardly arse.

given the spineless nature of the DINO's and Nancy's clean lemon pledged empty table...why anyone would even think that this is a meaningful story is beyond me.

I used to be cynical, but i can't keep up.

getalife @ 68:

Dodd wants to investigate w about this:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003675070&imw=Y

There you go, Andy. It is an election year! :)

getalife @ 68:

Dodd wants to investigate w about this:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003675070&imw=Y

AP reported this afternoon: "White House press secretary Dana Perino said it wasn't clear what McClellan meant in the excerpt and she had no immediate comment.

Not clear? LOL She must be crapping her panties. Her job just lost all credibility.

Our man Scotty in action!

Yo Fitz!....

Go do that Voodoo that you do so well!....

(Wahoo!)....

Impeach. Indict. Imprison.

...

AConfederacyofDunces @ 78:

Impeach. Indict. Imprison.

...

For TREASON

Amen

xoites defends Constitution Says:

Welcome! Glad you are here on the day that marks the end of the Bush Junta!

November 20th, 2007 at 9:20 PM - PST

Why do you say that? Is Bush going for a car ride with your mommy's friend?

Right, Bush, Cheney, Rove are all going to be indicted to which I say .....

Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.

I guess the jock sniffer has a new bean stock to climb since the Judith Regan news.

Keep punching up KO.

Nothing will come of this . . . at least from Congress. There isn't enough interest in Congress in pursuing Bush and Cheney as there was when they went after Clinton. There are just too many Bush apologists in office.

Maybe the Dems, being the liberals they are, are more willing to be somewhat tolerant and want to continue on with the nation's business, unlike the Republicans who go after those they dislike with a vengence. The leading Dems (Pelosi and Hoyer) seem to think dragging a nation through an impeachment process is too much to bring on a nation at war. I personally am not happy with Hoyer at all concerning his inaction against the administration and I don't plan on voting on him again. I voted for change last November and that isn't happening.

Hopefully, Fitzgerald hasn't closed the book entirely and maybe quietly continuing to gather more evidence for an air tight case.

But I'm afraid Bush will skate through this like he has everything else in his life. The man is made of teflon. Nothing seems to stick enough to bring the bastard down.

bean STALK! LOL :)

I can see it now.

Bush Administration explanation of McClellan revelations:

Well, you see McClellan has no credibility because he is a liar, we know this because that is what we hired him to do!

j swift @ 88:

I can see it now.

Bush Administration explanation of McClellan revelations:

Well, you see McClellan has no credibility because he is a liar, we know this because that is what we hired him to do!

That occured to me. It would be a really fitting end for this cabal to go down while using an argument like this.

TREASONTREASONTREASON
REASONTREASONTREASONT
EASONTREASONTREASONTR
ASONTREASONTREASONTRE
SONTREASONTREASONTREA
ONTREASONTREASONTREAS
NTREASONTREASONTREASO

The Fitzgerald - Libby trail was a dog & pony show, otherwise Rove would not have been allowed to change his testimony as many times as he did. They all new Libby would let off eventually scot free !

j swift @ 88:

I can see it now.

Bush Administration explanation of McClellan revelations:

Well, you see McClellan has no credibility because he is a liar, we know this because that is what we hired him to do!

lol...so true and FAUX will probably run with this..

xoites defends Constitution @ 97:
Of course we saw this before. Don't talk down to us. We saw this before you entered high school last year. What we did not have was someone who was there saying so. Now we do.

Oh yes, now you do. NOBODY before Scotty has given this kind of info. Do you remember the hand written notes by Cheney? Ever wonder where they went? Remember all the intentionally deleted emails? Not all of them were about Gonzo. What ever happened to those guys who gave the orders to break the law and use an RNC mail domain? That's right NOTHING.

I'm talking down to every idiot who thinks this is any different than the last 100 revelations of law breaking. You can scream TREASON as loud as you like. It's not gonna get you shit. The more you rant and rave, the more entertained they are. Why don't you pick up your phone and ask your representative what they intend to do about this? I'll give you a hint, NOTHING.

JustSickOfIt @ 98:

xoites defends Constitution @ 97:
Of course we saw this before. Don't talk down to us. We saw this before you entered high school last year. What we did not have was someone who was there saying so. Now we do.

Oh yes, now you do. NOBODY before Scotty has given this kind of info. Do you remember the hand written notes by Cheney? Ever wonder where they went? Remember all the intentionally deleted emails? Not all of them were about Gonzo. What ever happened to those guys who gave the orders to break the law and use an RNC mail domain? That's right NOTHING.

I'm talking down to every idiot who thinks this is any different than the last 100 revelations of law breaking. You can scream TREASON as loud as you like. It's not gonna get you shit. The more you rant and rave, the more entertained they are. Why don't you pick up your phone and ask your representative what they intend to do about this? I'll give you a hint, NOTHING.

Then, as i have said numerous times tonight, our government is not working and it is time to discard it.

xoites defends Constitution @ 100:

JustSickOfIt @ 98:

xoites defends Constitution @ 97:
Of course we saw this before. Don't talk down to us. We saw this before you entered high school last year. What we did not have was someone who was there saying so. Now we do.

Oh yes, now you do. NOBODY before Scotty has given this kind of info. Do you remember the hand written notes by Cheney? Ever wonder where they went? Remember all the intentionally deleted emails? Not all of them were about Gonzo. What ever happened to those guys who gave the orders to break the law and use an RNC mail domain? That's right NOTHING.

I'm talking down to every idiot who thinks this is any different than the last 100 revelations of law breaking. You can scream TREASON as loud as you like. It's not gonna get you shit. The more you rant and rave, the more entertained they are. Why don't you pick up your phone and ask your representative what they intend to do about this? I'll give you a hint, NOTHING.

Then, as i have said numerous times tonight, our government is not working and it is time to discard it.

Thank you. I'm sorry if I didn't see your previous comment. I completely agree. It's either going to take a lot of real fighting or a complete walk out on the part of the American public. I'm personally sick of killing and war, so would gladly opt for the second solution.

Oh, the NSA wiretaping is too secret for nyone to find out the facts.

Habeas Corpus is a good angle but would take years to fight through the legal system.

What we have here is simple and straight forward:

The President of the United States, during a time of War, exposed a covert CIA operative (which is an act of treason) to the world. The reason is irrelevant but in this case is also damning. He did it to further his agenda to invade a country that had done nothing to us.

His former Press Secretary says so. He sould be hauled in front of a Grand Jury and made to testify. If his testimony is relevant charges should be made, indictments handed down or this country and its rule of law are meaningless and we should immeadiatly stop any and all cooperation with it. No taxes paid, no flags, no pledge of alliegence. And a whole list of things i can't even come up with by myself.

xoites defends Constitution @ 64:

Reporters do not like being lied to unless the lies they have been told stay "the truth."

Reporters also do not like being made fools of.

Watch what happens next. I think it will be quite interesting.

I want to believe it goes down as you see it xoites, but I'm one of the cynics. The one possibility I do see is that it is an election year which means the underdogs like Dodd can and should run with it. I certainly don't see Mukasey or Fitz doing anything about it. I'd love to be wrong.

As for the reporters, they've shown for the last 7 years that they are ready and willing to be lied to, repeatedly, and they will do nothing to jeopardize their spot on the Insider Gravy Train.

I still dont' get McClellan's angle on this...

Is this the end of the line for Team Bush? Their karma finally arrives? Or more obfuscation? We shall see...

But it's going to be the end of the "Armitage Is The Leaker" meme...

xoites defends Constitution @ 104:

Oh, the NSA wiretaping is too secret for nyone to find out the facts.

Habeas Corpus is a good angle but would take years to fight through the legal system.

What we have here is simple and straight forward:

The President of the United States, during a time of War, exposed a covert CIA operative (which is an act of treason) to the world. The reason is irrelevant but in this case is also damning. He did it to further his agenda to invade a country that had done nothing to us.

You make a good case, though you left out that he pardoned Scooter Libby to cover his crimes.

I still think it will go nowhere though. The system is just too corrupted to function as it should. Hope I'm wrong.

Tshober @ 112:

xoites defends Constitution @ 104:

Oh, the NSA wiretaping is too secret for nyone to find out the facts.

Habeas Corpus is a good angle but would take years to fight through the legal system.

What we have here is simple and straight forward:

The President of the United States, during a time of War, exposed a covert CIA operative (which is an act of treason) to the world. The reason is irrelevant but in this case is also damning. He did it to further his agenda to invade a country that had done nothing to us.

You make a good case, though you left out that he pardoned Scooter Libby to cover his crimes.

I still think it will go nowhere though. The system is just too corrupted to function as it should. Hope I'm wrong.

Please do not miss my point. I know the system is corrupt. I am stating flat out that if it does not respond to this as it is supposed to it no longer has a right to exist. If it does not respond to this with indictments and convictions it needs to be removed, replaced.

The Nation

"If the president and vice president knowingly participated in a scheme to attack a critic of their administration -- Wilson had revealed that the White House had been informed that arguments Bush and Cheney used for attacking Iraq were ungrounded -- they have committed a distinct sort of offense that the House Judiciary Committee has already determined to be grounds for impeachment."

Jesus Christ!

Is Scotty showing signs of integrity? A conscious perhaps? Did he have some kind of bad dream (like masked dudes in orange jump suits visiting him in a dream perhaps like at Gonzo's speech in Florida) ?

This is so cool, all the rats have lost their focus and are turning on each other. I hope they gnaw each other to bloody messes and we can put them all into orange jump suits.
F**k the whole lot of them.

Anybody remember this clip, it is one of Scotty's better moments and also one of Don Imus's before his fall from grace. Dick Gregory plays a prominent role.

FUCKING IMPEACH THE TRAITOROUS BASTARDS

The funny thing is Pelosi will be really pissed off she was not for this from the start and will go down in history as one of the weakest members of the House of Representatives in US History.

xoites defends Constitution @ 119:

waterboarding for jesus @ 118:

Jesus Christ!

Is Scotty showing signs of integrity? A conscious perhaps? Did he have some kind of bad dream (like masked dudes in orange jump suits visiting him in a dream perhaps like at Gonzo's speech in Florida) ?

This is so cool, all the rats have lost their focus and are turning on each other. I hope they gnaw each other to bloody messes and we can put them all into orange jump suits.
F**k the whole lot of them.

Anybody remember this clip, it is one of Scotty's better moments and also one of Don Imus's before his fall from grace. Dick Gregory plays a prominent role.

i really don't give a shit what his motivations are, these assholes need to go!

xoites, you don’t see the humor here?
One Bush's paid liars just had a "I can't take it anymore moment", and could help bring down the Bush gang. You can't make this stuff up.

waterboarding for jesus @ 124:

xoites defends Constitution @ 119:

waterboarding for jesus @ 118:

Jesus Christ!

Is Scotty showing signs of integrity? A conscious perhaps? Did he have some kind of bad dream (like masked dudes in orange jump suits visiting him in a dream perhaps like at Gonzo's speech in Florida) ?

This is so cool, all the rats have lost their focus and are turning on each other. I hope they gnaw each other to bloody messes and we can put them all into orange jump suits.
F**k the whole lot of them.

Anybody remember this clip, it is one of Scotty's better moments and also one of Don Imus's before his fall from grace. Dick Gregory plays a prominent role.

i really don't give a shit what his motivations are, these assholes need to go!

xoites, you don’t see the humor here?
One Bush's paid liars just had a "I can't take it anymore moment", and could help bring down the Bush gang. You can't make this stuff up.

While i do indeed see the humor, in this particular case i want results. I think we all need and deserve them. The alternative is too awful and to necessary to contemplate, but contemplate it we must.

As some of you have said, but it bears repeating
They committed Treason

Are we going to let this go buy and do nothing-ITMFA(impeach the motherfucker(s) already, or Asshole(s).
Surely congress cannot let this go by with impunity.

The fire is here
This is the storm
Bush wants us in fear
He want a new norm

Tonight he quakes
Tonight he shakes
"Where is the darkness
"That held me tight?
"Why are my enemies
"Not afraid of the night?"

Down below we await the light
We do not lie here afraid
We are not unarmed
We will not be slayed

We awaited the moment
The opening came
Now we all SCREAM:
"Beam us up, Scotty!"

Bush the Liar @ 131:

Pelosi says fuck you America, we're not impeaching.

Now what you gonna do except bitch?

I have several ideas.

It is now 2:55 AM at the White House. Anyone want to bet Bush is awake and worried?

Glen @ 135:

IT'S TIME TO IMPEACH Before Iran war

He is done or the country is done. Take your pick. I choose Bush.

"Hope"

That's what we got...that's all we got....

Patrick Fitzgerald is not an attorney, he is a shit shoveler. He takes big steaming piles of shit from one room to the next. Then when the smell gets too overwhelming for the people close to that room, he shovels it to another room, where it will fester for awhile until it stinks too much there too. Eventually the shit will become fossilized, whereby the smell will go away, then nobody will know it was even there.

And why the fuck is McClellan waiting to tell all this in his book? I mean, don't you think something like this should have been told to the American people like, 2 years ago???????????

That McClellan is ALSO a lying piece of shit because he spent the better part of over 2.5 years lying to the American people on national television, and now he is saying it was Bush and Cheney that lied???

He should not be listened to by anyone. If he is, then you are HELPING him.

Olby's Wig @ 73:

Let me get this straight. Olbermann, aka the jock sniffer turned news guy, has towguests on to discuss this topic. The guests are David "I get my information from Jason Leopold at Truthout.org and Karl Rove will be indicted" Shuster and John,” the disbarred rat who subsequently admitted that his book Blind Ambition is a lie and inaccurate”, Dean as his sources on this. Let me guess, on tomorrows show the guest discussing this subject will be Professor Marvel. Keep punching up jock sniffer.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n5_v13/ai_19092299/print

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12703141/

Lets see, you link to a transcript of an Countdown and a story by Timothy W. Maier, who is a "fiction writer", er i mean writer for Insight magazine;

From Wikipedia;

The American Internet magazine Insight (formerly Insight on the News) was founded as a sister publication to The Washington Times newspaper. For a time, Insight was a newsmagazine included with The Washington Times, but its print operations ended in 2004. Now an Internet news magazine only, Insight is edited by Jeffrey T. Kuhner and owned by News World Communications, a media corporation owned by the Unification Church.

(snip)

A January 29 New York Times story commented on the Insight story. The article notes:

Insight editor Jeffrey T. Kuhner "whose Web site published the first anonymous smear of the 2008 presidential race, is hardly the only editor who will not reveal his reporters’ sources. What sets him apart is that he will not even disclose the names of his reporters."

In the article, Kuhner says that the article is "solid as solid can be" [7]. The Fox News Channel has since acknowledged that the story violates their basic rule of knowing "what you are talking about." John Moody, vice president for news at Fox, also included this in his daily editorial note on January 23: "For the record: seeing an item on a website does not mean it is right. Nor does it mean it is ready for air on FNC. The urgent queue is our way of communicating information that is air-worthy. Please adhere to this."[8].

After receiving so much media scrutiny, Insight defended itself as an online weekly "political intelligence report", and not part of the "mainstream print and broadcast news organizations," and therefore not required "to ferret out (more) facts and make judgment calls on relevance"

You are relying on some idiots fronting for Sun yung Moon, and even Fox Noise doesn't trust them ........

That is just way too funny dude, you don't think if Fox Noise says they CAN"T be trusted, they shouldn't be?

Bhawhawhawhawhawwhawawahwawawawwa, you are missing your calling son, you need a better outlet for your COMEDY writing.

xoites defends Constitution @ 109:

rat bastahd @ 108:

xoites defends Constitution @ 64:

Reporters do not like being lied to unless the lies they have been told stay "the truth."

Reporters also do not like being made fools of.

Watch what happens next. I think it will be quite interesting.

I want to believe it goes down as you see it xoites, but I'm one of the cynics. The one possibility I do see is that it is an election year which means the underdogs like Dodd can and should run with it. I certainly don't see Mukasey or Fitz doing anything about it. I'd love to be wrong.

As for the reporters, they've shown for the last 7 years that they are ready and willing to be lied to, repeatedly, and they will do nothing to jeopardize their spot on the Insider Gravy Train.

I still dont' get McClellan's angle on this...

Snotty Scotty's motivations are almost irrelvant. In any case if we ever do find out what they really are it may be a long time from now. Treason is a big deal in this country. Even reporters can get pissed off about it. We shall see. It has been less than 24 hours since Scotty has opened his mouth. It could be the begining of a flood. I certainly hope so.

I disagree, his obvious motivations (making tons of money on a book deal and seemingly selling his liar in chief for a sack of silver) are quite relevant. Scotty has been dripping with slime since he worked as Gov. Chimpy's deputy press secretary, and Candidate Chimpy's traveling press secretary. He has seen all the lies, back stabbing, and election rigging first hand. He is well aware of much more muck than what is being revealed now. I can tell you for a fact that he has the approval of chimpy and darth. Neither of these "men" are the least bit frightened by anything in this book. So why so little so late? This reeks of what is referred to in intelligence circles as a flame out. It's a technique that falls under the "create larger distracting stories" sub heading. Very specific, seemingly damaging info is released in a controlled way to stir up interest and divert it from the real story. Just like with magicians, you should never watch the hand that is moving.

rat bastahd @ 17:

You guys are jumping the gun. While I personally believe these 5 men (and many more in the Admin) are guilty of treason, I would happily take convictions on perjury, fraud, conspiracy, you name it. I have been for impeachment for years, pick your crime, we've got plenty to choose from. What will it take Nancy?

Anyways, my question, is: why Scotty why? This is only a prereleased nuggest from a book that doesn't come out for 6 months April of 08 is very interesting timing. Why this book? What's he attempting to gain? He's no more a truth-teller then any of the other assholes he worked with every day. What am I missing?

YES ! Exactly I ask myself every time some kind of news such as this hits the airwaves, What are they really up to? What's going on that they want to distract us from...still trying to find it.

Worse than that.............it SMELLS, REEKS of it! All the way around the world.

radiant @ 145:

Clinton is almost impeached for lying about an tryst and Bush/Cheney are getting away with lying about their knowledge in a CIA situation?

Sounds like a dictatorship to me.

Or a plutocracy, you know? Rule by the rich...

xoites defends Constitution @ 114:

Tshober @ 112:

xoites defends Constitution @ 104:

Oh, the NSA wiretaping is too secret for nyone to find out the facts.

Habeas Corpus is a good angle but would take years to fight through the legal system.

What we have here is simple and straight forward:

The President of the United States, during a time of War, exposed a covert CIA operative (which is an act of treason) to the world. The reason is irrelevant but in this case is also damning. He did it to further his agenda to invade a country that had done nothing to us.

You make a good case, though you left out that he pardoned Scooter Libby to cover his crimes.

I still think it will go nowhere though. The system is just too corrupted to function as it should. Hope I'm wrong.

Please do not miss my point. I know the system is corrupt. I am stating flat out that if it does not respond to this as it is supposed to it no longer has a right to exist. If it does not respond to this with indictments and convictions it needs to be removed, replaced.

Thats what my Father said when Nixon went down, that thank Gawd the system still worked, but I also think its broken now.
Its time for action or packing if nothing comes of this.