David Gregory Plays "Blame the Blogs"

So Helen Thomas asked fellow WH pressroom regular David Gregory who is responsible for polarizing American politics. Gregory responded:

I think it’s because of the internet largely. The polarized atmosphere in the internet and blogs and whatnot have been a major contributor to that.

Bless his heart*.

Words of Power has the appropriate response:

Yes, of course, it was the bloggers who polarized the US body politic. ...In 2000, the bloggers stopped the counting of the ballots ordered by the Florida Supreme Court, and installed the man who lost, as the counting, finished later by researchers, would confirm. ...In 2004, the bloggers made sure there weren't enough voting machines in the poorest and blackest districts of Ohio. ...The bloggers made Habeas Corpus and the Bill of Rights optional. ...The bloggers established a Gulag system, instituted torture and rendition, and started disappearing people. The bloggers stayed on vacation while New Orleans drowned. Read more...

*Get used to me saying that. It's the way Southern women use a common two-word put down containing a familiar expletive.

John Amato: Yea, and it was the blogs that spent millions of dollars trying to impeach and indict President Clinton for years and years and of course, we accused him of murdering Vince Foster. Didn't we? Or maybe it was Richard Mellon Scaife. Isn't he a blogger too?



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If Rove was Bush's brain, David Gregory is Rove's pud.

Another hack who would rather debase himself for The Villagers by dancing around like a buffoon instead of keeping aloof from them like Sy Hersch.

Gregory is a major league asshole.

-GSD

gregory is really hard for me to read. In the beginning of this mess i viewed him as championing the liberal cause right there alongside helen thomas. then chinks in the armor began to surface. he was on stage encouraging those louts and rove in particular as he mimicked a rap singer. And now this. he needs to make up his mind, is he for justice or he just another media whore.

Isn't "bullshit" one word?

This is simply a translation error.

By "polarized atmosphere," Gregory means "environment in which our typically shoddy and defective establishment 'news' products which universally favor hawkish ideals are no longer passively accepted as the default truth."

Given that correct translation, Gregory may be correct.

he's just pissed cause he don't have rove to dance with anymore.

The polarizing came from watching Gregory up on stage dancing with Rove. Yikes! Someone tell that guy that he can't dance even though he clearly thinks he can.

COS - did anyone notice at the Hadley conference yesterday that the only person he appeared to look at was Gregory? What's up with that...

GSD @ 1:

If Rove was Bush's brain, David Gregory is Rove's pud.

Another hack who would rather debase himself for The Villagers by dancing around like a buffoon instead of keeping aloof from them like Sy Hersch.

Gregory is a major league asshole.

-GSD

You're flat out wrong, man. There is absolutely nothing -- repeat NOTHING -- "major" about this asshole.

Little leaguer wearing big boy pants. Jesus, I'm fed up with the MSM bullsh*t!

Gregory has apparently never listened to the likes of shithead limbaugh and his ilk, or maybe he agrees with their hate mongering, which is really one of the main reasons this country is so polarized. Gregory lives in his cushy insider non-reality bubble.

Face the FACTS... the citizens of this nation are turning to the internet to BE HEARD and to HEAR EACH OTHER. Like myself, many of us are sick and tired of the PURE BULLSHIT that is shoveled out by the mainstream media who pander to the Whitehouse and the Pentagon. A BLOG is powerless unless it has a following, and the ONLY WAY a blog gains a LOYAL readership is when the stories it reports consistently pan out.

Cordier @ 6:

The polarizing came from watching Gregory up on stage dancing with Rove. Yikes! Someone tell that guy that he can't dance even though he clearly thinks he can.

COS - did anyone notice at the Hadley conference yesterday that the only person he appeared to look at was Gregory? What's up with that...

You had to remind me of that image, didn't you! I'm feeling nauseous.

But, yeah, you're right, the criticism of the blogosphere comes from a punk who, literally, danced with Karl Rove!

with crap like this coming out of the press your country is screwed. I just hope you only drag yourselves down and leave the rest of the world alone.

Gregory is the new "Timmy Russert".
Money trumps everything

"I think it’s because of the internet largely. The polarized atmosphere in the internet and blogs and whatnot have been a major contributor to that."

Yes, and that whole Civil War back in the 1860's was due to those nasty bloggers, too. There's never been any serious partisan conflicts, implies Gregory, before that nasty 'internets' came about...

hrmmm. pink tie. could be anther wide stance scandal in his future.

An unfortunately typical response to a serious question.
Why bother to ask these people anything? All you can hope to learn is how craven they have become. I think their strategy of mucking up the dialogue is working. I am so sick of having this sanctioned narrative forced down my throat that I actually prefer to just not listen anymore. They are winning not a war of ideas, but a war of attrition.

Serious Question..anyone have e-mail for Whitehouse Press C.
Dumb shit has evidently forgotten how Rove split this country along social issues strictly for votes...

Guns, Gays, and Abortion...This Pres. has done nothing to lead the entire country. Kept us split on the same issues the entire time.

Pisses me off that he would say such a dumb shit thing. Excuse me for the language but it really is something I don't want him to get away with...give me his e-mail someone..please

The bloggers must have put a gun to Hot Tub Tom's head and made him say and do mean things. They were responsible for the dirty tricks of Karl Rove. They're responsible every time Bush and Cheney appear and blame everything on the "Democrat" congress. It's the bloggers that encourage the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, et al. by hiring them to speak at their gatherings and put them on the air for all to hear (do the Democrats even have someone close to this lot?). Next we'll hear that the bloggers are responsible for the war in Iraq.

We did it! Bloggers put the bop in the bop--shoo--bop-shoo-bop.

The villagers and corporate media got nuthin' and they know it. Gregory deserves mockery, not even derision, and certainly not serious debate.

Blame the Blogs

The Blogs of War have met their match

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFMqV2FfPNk

more Pravdaism from a beltway bunny

Ron Brownstein was on Scarborough earlier, and I almost threw something at my TV set, I was so pissed at the sheer amount of bullshit this guy was spewing. The Democrats are "hyperpartisan" and have become more liberal? I suppose that's why they've rolled over for almost everything W wanted until now. All these calls for bipartisanship and cooperation have one object: to stop the Democrats from prosecuting anybody in the government who has committed crimes in the last 7 years. If they so much as subpoena somebody, we instantly hear the wails of the pundits about partisanship and witch hunts and how mean teh Democrats are to the poor GOP. And it's working.

What an idiot. There was a point in time when Hillary's declaration of a "vast right wing conspiracy" seemed a bit over the top. It was fun to be naive in the days of "irrational exuberance"!

Now it seems all the prophecies were understated. Remember laughing at the Nation's Alfred W cover "Worry"?

Chipping away at the "mongerers" (fear, war, whaddya got?) powers should not have to be this hard. Our system should have prevented this, and will still require a congressional spine to do so.

We were divied by these idiotic messianic oilpatch idiots that rule us against our will, for our own protection. May their deaths come slowly so that they may witness the rebirth of the Republic. Except Cheney, he can go whenever. Today would be good.

But this Norquist, Addington, Kristol, Yoo mindset must go. We cannot reclaim our place among nations with morons and AIE self-servers at the trough. And let history make no mistake about it, Gore won Florida. Not on some technicality, but here on the good Earth under the the clear blue skies, Al Gore had more votes in the ballot box than W. And we just have to live with that.

David, you got booted from my X-Mas card list a year ago!

The 'internet(s)' didn't even exist when the Milton Scaifs (or however-the-hell he spells it) started funding the 'hate-tanks' that took polarization to a whole new level...along with the rest of them - Coors, Waltons, and on, and on. Nothing new, hell Frank Capra made movies about them in the 30's and 40's, and in every case we knew they were the villains...Mr. Potter, The Taylor Machine in 'Mr. Smith Goes', same actor different story from 'John Doe' -funny how they never really got what was coming to them. The reason is that with their money, they'll always figure a way to survive...I'm not even sure a stake through their hearts would do it.

So now we have the internet to 'let off steam'...without it we very well might have been storming the castles with torches and stakes, so be glad it's there if for no other reason than to keep us out of the streets.

David Gregory should be upset.

The "blogs" are making his ass obsolete.

Just think of the size of the Roster of the Soon-to-be-Unemployed.

Richard Mellon Scaife.

He's recently been quoted as saying in hindsight Clinton wasn't such a bad president.

Poor David Gregory. He was once a reputable hack. Now he is a complete sellout hack with no idea of what's going on around him. Anyone who blames the "internets" for polarizing american politics is obviously a village idiot who refuses to acknowledge recent history (i.e. the Clinton impeachment).

The internet is dangerous. It allows the opinions of ordinary (and some extrordinary) Americans to state their ideas and opinions for other to see and read. This is contrary to the vision of the Corporatate Media, the Corporate Judiciary, the Corporate Congress and the Corporate Presidency. It is contrary to the idea of America speaking with one voice in support of goals and ambitions of those who rule us, those who exploit us and those who divide us so that they may use us to their own ends.

David Gregory is right. The internet blogs polarize Americans and its natural enemy: tyranny. It threatens Gregory's job and the jobs of others who profit from our ignorance and our sense of helplessness. Blogs throw up warning signals, refuse to lay down, shut up and die. They do not cheer David's seven figure salary. They somehow think justice and fighting for justice is more important than who cuts a candidates hair and how much it costs. They care about 6 kids in Jena when the Corporate Media denies anything is wrong.

Thank you, internet blogs for being diametrically opposed (dare i say polarized?) from the agenda of those who would enslave us.

My mother, rest her soul, a good Texas woman,explained the "Bless your heart" rule to me years ago. "You can say anything BAD you want about someone, as long as you precede it with "Bless their heart...". For instance. "That Karl Rove, bless his heatt, is a cheese eating son of a bitch..." or "George Bush, bless his heart, couldn't find his butt with both hands tied behind his back..."

You totally get it, R. Thanks. --BG

NEWSFLASH: Bush is LYING right now on the teevee!

Before 1994 Gingrich wrote a piece called "Language: A Key Mechanism of control" which advocated using the following terms (among others) to describe Democrats:

* abuse of power * betray * bosses * cheat * coercion * corrupt * decay * destroy * destructive * devour * disgrace * greed * hypocrisy * lie * limit(s) * pathetic * radical * selfish * sick * steal * taxes * traitors.

He pulled out the stops, too. Right before the 1994 election he blamed the Democrats for the fact that Susan Smith a troubled and abused Republican woman (with connections high up in the state party) had murdered her two kids. Completely senseless and vicious, he never apologized, and that's the election that made him the second most important man in U.S. government. And it didn't get better.

Gregory is so delusionary and corrupt that there's no possibility of his getting better. He literally doesn't seem to notice the world that he lives in. I'd have more respect for him if I thought that he were a conscious liar working for the Republicans.

And it's the bloggers who are backing George Soros ...

It was the blogs that forced Karl Rove to be divisive.

Exactly why does this corporate slut who is paid 2 million a year, yes two million a year for spluttering the propaganda with repiglican cum oozing from his lips everytime he speaks, mr swollen lips himself, deserve this amount of money while at the same time the teachers of our children for god's sake make about $30,000 a year ?

Greagory is just another of the White House press followers who would say and do anything this White House wants. He is just another asshole of the many in the White House media. "Don't takle my perks away, please"
people. They are the ones to blame by kissing Bush's ass at every opportunity. Just listen to them laugh during press conferences when Bush is trying. again, trying to say something funny. With the exception of Helen, the rest are just puppy DOGS!

Busholini is absolutely certifiable. Where are the men in the white jackets to take him away???

Wow! Just heard RANDI RHODES speak in Michigan.
Give her WE BELIEVE speech a whirl.

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/

Explains the patriotic duty to IMPEACH.

Meanwhile, as we sit here, the Chimp is lecturing us on what it takes to build a nuclear bomb, and how he and Condi have been 'working the phones.' Amazing.

Let me start by saying, I love C&L. I read it all day, every day to get my ire fired up. But, then that's the problem, see? I read C&L because it gives me what I want — lots of great clips of Bush being evil, Rove being slimy, Cheny being inhuman, Republicans being hypocrites, etc. My brother reads FrontPageMag.com to get his fill of how evil all Muslims are, how Democrats want us to "lose" the war, etc. The point is, that blogs, more than ever, enable us to find the things that reinforce our own opinions and beliefs. We're no longer forced to listen to a different opinion or interpretation of facts, reconcile them with our own beliefs and come to an independent conclusion. There is less and less room for open discussion and critical thought. Blogs, while awesome and needed, are a part of this cycle. Just like "personality news" like Bill O, and talk radio like Rush. I wouldn't say they cause the partisanship by any means. Our leaders on both sides of the aisle have been doing that for years. But I would say that blogs have increased the size of the echo chamber and made it harder for rational discussions to be heard.

Now, you mangy curs, have at me.

bigbuddy1980 @ 37:

Wow! Just heard RANDI RHODES speak in Michigan.
Give her WE BELIEVE speech a whirl.

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/

Explains the patriotic duty to IMPEACH.

Saw that. A very good speech indeed.

El Cid @ 4:

This is simply a translation error.

By "polarized atmosphere," Gregory means "environment in which our typically shoddy and defective establishment 'news' products which universally favor hawkish ideals are no longer passively accepted as the default truth."

Given that correct translation, Gregory may be correct.

El Cid is right on target.

Hacks like Gregory (and his kind) are exposed for their shortcomings.

I think his Gregory's point is, if I'm reading this correctly, is that the MSM completely fell down on the job, failed to report any real issue over the last seven years. In the vacuum created by ignorance, incompetence and complicity, the Blogs stepped in and did the real reporting they should have done. In blogging about those stories they naturally polarized the electorate into those who are painfully aware of what has happened and the rest whose only care is enough gas for their SUV.

Of course had the press DONE THEIR JOB in the last seven years they, and not the blogs, would be responsible for the polarization.

So you see, Mr. Gregory is correct in his assertion.

Bush caught in another lie and is having a hell of a time expalaing it. Iran was going to be the next target. They have known for almost a year that they had no nuclear weapons program and continued to make threats. Impeach!

Dhalgren @ 38:

Meanwhile, as we sit here, the Chimp is lecturing us on what it takes to build a nuclear bomb, and how he and Condi have been 'working the phones.' Amazing.

Dhalgren, you KNOW he's lecturing about a nuke-u-lur bomb.
:)

Check out the photo! Then fill in the caption.

OT, but is anyone catching goddamn Bush still railing on Iran? He's really pissing me off this morning...

BTW, Suck on it Gregory!

I love the way the word "polarized" is used by our media talking heads in reference to domestic politics.

They speak of the publics' outrage at the Bush Administration as if it existed in a vacuum, completely divorced from reality. They assume it's the same kind of manufactured, faux outrage that the conservative movement has run on for so long. Never do they stop and consider that the anger may be coming from the people themselves, simply responding to the reality they're seeing for themselves. It's like these media people just assume the sheep only bleat when they've been told to bleat.

The fact is that the general public is angry at the government today-- not because some well-financed noise machine told them to be-- but rather because the government is corrupt and authoritarian, and it has repeatedly lied to and hurt it's own citizens for profit.

iamanutjob has punked w on WMD’s just like Saddam. A reporter asks w if he has a credibility problem. Duh but wingnuts get punked every single day and ♥ it.

Geez.

"A moment, Sir, to ask about the economy ..."

CBS did not identify this reporter, and it appears that he is seated next to Dana Perino.

Somebody please explain to Busholini that we're not buying his ceaseless BUSHIT any more. Personally, I never have.

The smirking, winking, smiling and chuckling while discussing the most serious of matters is sickening.

Bush News Conf. 10AM Dec 4.

"I'm saying that before the NIE, Iran was dangerous, after the NIE, Iran is dangerous."

"The policy remains the same. I see a danger."

Huh?

Bush says he made positive gestures towards Iran.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVynnbx1Xsc&eurl=http://www.crooksandliar...

Is he overstating his winkie size again?

Thomas Stone @ 51:

Bush News Conf. 10AM Dec 4.

"I'm saying that before the NIE, Iran was dangerous, after the NIE, Iran is dangerous."

"The policy remains the same. I see a danger."

Huh?

"Huh?", indeed. What did you expect a mea culpa from the madman? An admission of being wrong?

I'm hearing lots of the old "hard work" rhetoric as well.

Stephen @ 39:

Let me start by saying, I love C&L. I read it all day, every day to get my ire fired up. But, then that's the problem, see? I read C&L because it gives me what I want — lots of great clips of Bush being evil, Rove being slimy, Cheny being inhuman, Republicans being hypocrites, etc. My brother reads FrontPageMag.com to get his fill of how evil all Muslims are, how Democrats want us to "lose" the war, etc. The point is, that blogs, more than ever, enable us to find the things that reinforce our own opinions and beliefs. We're no longer forced to listen to a different opinion or interpretation of facts, reconcile them with our own beliefs and come to an independent conclusion. There is less and less room for open discussion and critical thought. Blogs, while awesome and needed, are a part of this cycle. Just like "personality news" like Bill O, and talk radio like Rush. I wouldn't say they cause the partisanship by any means. Our leaders on both sides of the aisle have been doing that for years. But I would say that blogs have increased the size of the echo chamber and made it harder for rational discussions to be heard.

Now, you mangy curs, have at me.

As soon as i develope mange, we'll talk.

He must have gotten his pay off check in the mail. P.O.S. We'll remember your ass when the war criminals are put on trial. You don't have any credibilty.

David Gregory is not an Asshole, he is just stupid.

I don't understand his usage of "Internet" but,

If 'whatnot' = 'I don't know'
then Response =
'I don't know who is responsible for polarizing American politics. ' + 'Helen'

print

Blogs aren't solely responsible for the partisan atmosphere, but they certainly aren't helping. This blog for instance would be a whole lot more credible in my opinion if it payed more attention to the crooks and liars on both sides of the isle. Instead there a lot of times it just comes off as a site dedicated to smearing Republicans. There is corruption within the Democratic party too guys. Perhaps it's time for the blogosphere to grow up a little. Who's going to have the balls to take a good hard look at themselves and think about weather they're being part of the problem or part of the solution. A good many of us are sick and fed up with partisan politics in this country, and until those who play that game wake up to this fact they will continue to loose relevance and respect.

They're not just blaming 'The Blogs'.

This morning it got personal.

Karl Rove announced that is was C&L that caused the 'Shock and Awe' bombardment of Baghdad, years before the administration was willing to stop it's negotiations with Saddam for a peaceful resolution of the disputes, but once the C&L-inspired bombardment began, there 'Was nothing the administration could do but follow-up with an invasion'.

Oh, Oh. Is Amato, and everyone involved with C&L headed for Gitmo?

(There's not enough room for all of us there. They're gonna have to do rendition on some of us. I'm putting in a request for rendition to Aruba)

bigbuddy1980 @ 37:

Wow! Just heard RANDI RHODES speak in Michigan.
Give her WE BELIEVE speech a whirl.

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/

Explains the patriotic duty to IMPEACH.

Just like the tax code. SHALL does not imply a choice, but is a requirement.

Stephen @ 39:

Let me start by saying, I love C&L. I read it all day, every day to get my ire fired up. But, then that's the problem, see? I read C&L because it gives me what I want — lots of great clips of Bush being evil, Rove being slimy, Cheny being inhuman, Republicans being hypocrites, etc. My brother reads FrontPageMag.com to get his fill of how evil all Muslims are, how Democrats want us to "lose" the war, etc. The point is, that blogs, more than ever, enable us to find the things that reinforce our own opinions and beliefs. We're no longer forced to listen to a different opinion or interpretation of facts, reconcile them with our own beliefs and come to an independent conclusion. There is less and less room for open discussion and critical thought. Blogs, while awesome and needed, are a part of this cycle. Just like "personality news" like Bill O, and talk radio like Rush. I wouldn't say they cause the partisanship by any means. Our leaders on both sides of the aisle have been doing that for years. But I would say that blogs have increased the size of the echo chamber and made it harder for rational discussions to be heard.

Now, you mangy curs, have at me.

You're assuming the audience is stupid and can't make up its own mind.

But then again, so am I... :(

Rob @ 58:

Blogs aren't solely responsible for the partisan atmosphere, but they certainly aren't helping. This blog for instance would be a whole lot more credible in my opinion if it payed more attention to the crooks and liars on both sides of the isle. Instead there a lot of times it just comes off as a site dedicated to smearing Republicans. There is corruption within the Democratic party too guys. Perhaps it's time for the blogosphere to grow up a little. Who's going to have the balls to take a good hard look at themselves and think about weather they're being part of the problem or part of the solution. A good many of us are sick and fed up with partisan politics in this country, and until those who play that game wake up to this fact they will continue to loose relevance and respect.

It has, it does. I don't have time to quote you chapter and verse but i am guessing you are about to get hit with several examples by other regulars here.

OMFG! The ENTIRE White House press corps needs to be FIRED IMMEDIATELY! An NIE has just been released proving that Bush is a warmongering liar, and the press corps is letting him stand there and talk about Candy Crowley's cold virus. I've never seen such a bunch of lapdogs in my entire life!

david gregory is a (sorry, make that the) shinning example of what is wrong with the msm.

This 'Gregory' guy.

Isn't he just Gannon/Guckert with a different hairdo?

How many disguises does this freak have?

Sue @ 16:

Serious Question..anyone have e-mail for Whitehouse Press C.
Dumb shit has evidently forgotten how Rove split this country along social issues strictly for votes...

Guns, Gays, and Abortion...This Pres. has done nothing to lead the entire country. Kept us split on the same issues the entire time.

Pisses me off that he would say such a dumb shit thing. Excuse me for the language but it really is something I don't want him to get away with...give me his e-mail someone..please

Here's some contact info so you can share your thoughts w/ NBC:
NBC
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112

Web: www.nbc.com
Phone: (212) 664-4444
Fax: (212) 664-4085

Of course the White House Press Corps is just an amorphous group or reporters, but they do have their own website:

www.whitehousepresscorps.org

Just search under the "Contact" links at both websites for the email address you're wanting.

Rob @ 58:

Blogs aren't solely responsible for the partisan atmosphere, but they certainly aren't helping. This blog for instance would be a whole lot more credible in my opinion if it payed more attention to the crooks and liars on both sides of the isle. Instead there a lot of times it just comes off as a site dedicated to smearing Republicans. There is corruption within the Democratic party too guys. Perhaps it's time for the blogosphere to grow up a little. Who's going to have the balls to take a good hard look at themselves and think about weather they're being part of the problem or part of the solution. A good many of us are sick and fed up with partisan politics in this country, and until those who play that game wake up to this fact they will continue to loose relevance and respect.

Only a sock puppet would miss the routine trashing of Democrats amid the commments, or the encouragement of activism - from calling/writing elected representatives to supporting candidates through contributions.

Oh, so Busholini thinks he's explained the NIE. Iran is a DANGER to the world. Here we go again!

Impending danger! Ooooooooh, ooga booga, we're doomed!

Pericles @ 64:

... An NIE has just been released proving that Bush is a warmongering liar, and the press corps is letting him stand there and talk about Candy Crowley's cold virus. ...

yes, it is sad that the U.S. press is nothing but a propaganda arm of the government.

#1 threat to world security = our pRESIDENT!

Thomas Stone @ 69:

Pericles @ 64:

... An NIE has just been released proving that Bush is a warmongering liar, and the press corps is letting him stand there and talk about Candy Crowley's cold virus. ...

yes, it is sad that the U.S. press is nothing but a propaganda arm of the government.

Well, if it was nothing but a propaganda arm of the government what would it do differently, exactly?

:)

Republicans are scared sh**less of the blogs and the internet. They know there lies the truth. They have taken over cable, the networks and the newspapers and they can't get their hands on the internet YET. So yeah they are going to blame the bloggers.

Wouldn't it be nice if just ONE NEWSPAPER HAD THE GUTS to really tell the American people WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR.
The Nazism of America that's what.

Uhh... is he really that naive?

American politics is polarized BY DEFINITION!!!

That is what you get when you have a two party system... helloooo...

He says "polarization" as if it were a bad thing. Who knew?

It's also George Soros fault. Everyone knows that he personally finances every progressive blog.

In reality, the blogs are the one source of reassurance that we have not completely lost this country. With the failure of the Democratic leadership to do anything but behave like "Republicans-Lite", the blogs are proof that there are citizens that still care about Democracy, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

Oww.. Teh Stupid... David... it burns...!

Gregory is just another expensive haircut on the make. Every once and a while he pipes up a a White House press conference, but always at the flack du jour, never at the President. He's take the reverse route as Katie Couric, going from hard news to guest hosting the morning shows. But the giveaway was dancing with Karl.

The guy is simply a hustler looking for the big break.

Whew, back from the front line and dodging bush's flinging of bullshit on the tv. I had to laugh out loud when bush said it was hard to know what Iran was up to because, "Iran is not a transparent regime". And he would know that too because he patented regimes that aren't transparent.

If he believes in his heart what he said at that press conference this morning, then he is truly an unstable man. How in the hell does he intend to stop Iran from learning how to build a bomb? So we just blow the hell out of them because some day in the future they could be dangerous? Those aren't the thoughts of a sane man, a desperate man perhaps but not a sane one.

Yes David, you have a small penis and you can't dance.

I've done my own keen political analysis and observation, and I can only conclude one thing- David Gregory has nice hair. But not as nice as Mitt Romney's.

The polarization of American politics began when Ronald Reagan's admin did away with the Fairness Doctrine. Immediately after that all the right-wing radio bozos began the process. It was further expediated by the Republican Congress during Clinton's admin, who spent the better part of 8-years doing little more than publically slandering Bill while trying to find some way of impeaching him.

But really it's rooted in then entire structure of the GOP. They groom and nurture their leadership through the College Republicans, which has a rather sordid past going back to at least 1973 when Karl Rove proved dirty politics win, by claiming victory in a controversial campaign for the CR chair. He was sanctified winner by the direct order of the chairman of the RNC, George HW Bush. Then in 2002 the Finance Reform bill forced the CR to choose between either remaining linked to the RNC but give up its fund raising activities, or become a 527 political committee and rake in the dough. They chose the latter, naturally, thus solidifying the link between big money and rising in the GOP political ranks.

So now each new generation of future GOP leaders are baptized in money and polarized, Machiavellian politics. And they are supported by an organized right-wing media. The blogosphere for them is but a minor and new venue through which to get the propaganda message out.

After bush spoke, I believe it was David who said that much of bush's language was the same as the language he used in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. I gotta give David a bit of credit for admitting that.

How dare you Americans educate yourselves with the internet! You are to do our bidding, step for step and when we say jump, you ask how high! It's you bloggers that are ruining our plans.....er, I mean our American dream....yeah, that's it. It's unamerican to do anything but what we tell you to. Your an American insurgent if you question anything that comes out of our mouths and if you don't, we can LEGALLY lock you up and throw away the key and there's not shit you can do about it. So just shut up and drink your kool aid and let us handle the thinking. You are just here to show up for work, pay your taxes, and spend every last dime you make or ever think of making to us. Got it?....Good!

The media consists of total liars.

damn i am so stupid, here i am thinking it was karl rove's political philosophy of deviding the country and scarying just enough to gain or steal a slim majority. all along it was these damned blogs. well will someone in the blogs tell me who cut off gregory's nutsack, because at one time he actually seemed to have been growing a set.

Gregory has a point in that the Internet makes it easier for fringe elements to get their message out. However, the polarization started back in '94 (thank you Newt), long before the net was in wide use.

pissed off patricia @ 83:

After bush spoke, I believe it was David who said that much of bush's language was the same as the language he used in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. I gotta give David a bit of credit for admitting that.

Gregory has been highly critical of the Bush administration at times...

willie @ 86:

damn i am so stupid, here i am thinking it was karl rove's political philosophy of deviding the country and scarying just enough to gain or steal a slim majority. all along it was these damned blogs. well will someone in the blogs tell me who cut off gregory's nutsack, because at one time he actually seemed to have been growing a set.

Rove didn't start polarization in American politics. However, he did perfect it.

pissed off patricia @ 79:

Whew, back from the front line and dodging bush's flinging of bullshit on the tv. I had to laugh out loud when bush said it was hard to know what Iran was up to because, "Iran is not a transparent regime". And he would know that too because he patented regimes that aren't transparent.

I think Bush is secretly jealous of the lack of transparency that the Iranian regime has.

Maybe David it was being called a terrorist, unAmerican, and unpatriotic for 7 years polarized atmosphere . . .

Maybe the blogs and being able to meet like minded people, and be able to vent has been the only thing that has kept some people sane!

asshole!

Clytemnestra @ 91:

Maybe David it was being called a terrorist, unAmerican, and unpatriotic for 7 years polarized atmosphere . . .

Corrected
Maybe David it was being called a terrorist, unAmerican, and unpatriotic for 7 years polarized THEatmosphere

Perhaps Gregory "dated" Jeff Gannon [and the videos to prove it are on Karl Rove's hard drive].

What's David Gregory doing with his fingers, describing the miniscule size of his penis?

Gregory is just another high-priced whore for the MSM. The less gray matter the better, no self-respect and must get his vaccine of indoctrination and propaganda every month lest he develop a conscience.

So what happened to the FCC's attempt to further the consolidation of all media?

It's rather telling that the transcript of the um ... uh ... Iran is still dangerous, that's why we need t' ... t' work on bringing pipple t'gether ... 'cuz if Iran obtains the knowledge to enrich uranium, they could ... pass ... that on ... to ... uh ... a covert program ... news conference isn't on the White House website yet.

Someone has to run it through the uh ... um ... de-ummer.

The lack of major media oversight during this administration is exactly what has made the blogs so powerful. More and more people realize that they have been mislead by the media during this administration. How else could 76 percent of Americans have believed that Iraq was involved in the 911 attacks. More people have come to realize that the web is the only place you can truly get a fair and balanced view of what is happening.

We need to join together and get the message out to the people about who the candidate is that truly represents the American people. Together, we could make it happen.

Dennis Kucinich 08 - Americas hope

Whoops. I forgot to exclude Olbermann. Countdown does try.

xoites defends Constitution @ 71:

Thomas Stone @ 69:

Pericles @ 64:

... An NIE has just been released proving that Bush is a warmongering liar, and the press corps is letting him stand there and talk about Candy Crowley's cold virus. ...

yes, it is sad that the U.S. press is nothing but a propaganda arm of the government.

Well, if it was nothing but a propaganda arm of the government what would it do differently, exactly?

:)

Does anybody remember when the press badgered Richard Nixon so badly over a petty burglary at the Watergate that he had to run off the stage and literally SHOVE Ron Zeigler back into the thick of the fray to take the heat for him because he couldn't stand it anymore? Fast forward 34 years to the days when the President is incompetent and crooked beyond belief, has already been proven to have lied the country into one war, and gets caught in the process of trying to lie it into a second one, and the press corp just sits around GIGGLING at his half-assed puns.

What's changed in the last 34 years? The amazingly successful, coordinated attack on the press from the conservative movement, accusing them of having a 'liberal bias,' and intimidating them into mouthing the right wing agenda. What an amazing bunch of chicken s#!ts. "Ooh, we better not call Bush on his lies, or we might end up like Dan Rather!"

Is that gesture an idication for his penis size?

David Gregory started out with some principle, but a couple of White House black tie dinners and sharing the spotlight at $5,000 a plate dinners with Karl Rove and the Axis of Eegits sure taught him a thing about the 'good life.'

Gregory is a sellout douschebag, who was probably corrupted by the first jumbo shrimp cocktail the Bush administration laid before him! What an ass! When Helen Thomas goes, there won't be enough integrity in the White House press corp to save a drowning kitten!

Pericles @ 100:

xoites defends Constitution @ 71:

Thomas Stone @ 69:

Pericles @ 64:

yes, it is sad that the U.S. press is nothing but a propaganda arm of the government.

Well, if it was nothing but a propaganda arm of the government what would it do differently, exactly?

:)

Does anybody remember when the press badgered Richard Nixon so badly over a petty burglary at the Watergate that he had to run off the stage and literally SHOVE Ron Zeigler back into the thick of the fray to take the heat for him because he couldn't stand it anymore? Fast forward 34 years to the days when the President is incompetent and crooked beyond belief, has already been proven to have lied the country into one war, and gets caught in the process of trying to lie it into a second one, and the press corp just sits around GIGGLING at his half-assed puns.

What's changed in the last 34 years? The amazingly successful, coordinated attack on the press from the conservative movement, accusing them of having a 'liberal bias,' and intimidating them into mouthing the right wing agenda. What an amazing bunch of chicken s#!ts. "Ooh, we better not call Bush on his lies, or we might end up like Dan Rather!"

Just once I wish someone would stand up and say "So, Mr. President, what you're saying is you don't give a damn what the intelligence report says, you just want to go to war with Iran, is that right? And, you are going to use the same lies and rhetoric that you used to get Congress to agree to go to Iraq, is that right?" How I would love it if someone would just stand there and badger him and refuse to be silenced.

Well, it's a nice dream

R @ 29:

My mother, rest her soul, a good Texas woman,explained the "Bless your heart" rule to me years ago. "You can say anything BAD you want about someone, as long as you precede it with "Bless their heart...". For instance. "That Karl Rove, bless his heatt, is a cheese eating son of a bitch..." or "George Bush, bless his heart, couldn't find his butt with both hands tied behind his back..."

You totally get it, R. Thanks. --BG

Or you could say anything you want and end it with "Bless his heart" as Cheney is evil incarnite and has an empty space where his heart should be, but, well, bless his heart.

Barbara

In Wikipedia, under PUTZ should be David Gregory's face. He could also fit with WANKER. MEDIA WHORE is also appropriate but he would so many to compete with that one. I hold no respect and no confidence in this Bushco sell-out.

THE BLOGS BROKE INTO THE WATERGATE APARTMENTS!

Whatsa matter, David Gregory? Have the bloggers made it impossible to deny that ANYONE could do your cushy job, even people in pajamas? The blogs are the only thing that have prevented martial law and suspension of the constitution. More voices in a democracy is better, not worse than having the elite few wanker media elite having polite discussions that keep access to their subjects.

I have to agree with Gregory. Blogs like Crossfire and The McLaughlin Group have been a wedge since... oh wait, that's right...

nevermind

The polarization of American politics started the moment that Rush Limbaugh first flicked the switch on his talk radio microphone.

Bloggers made David Craig tap his toes in a Twin Cities toilet.

# 9 lists the facst of why the internet is effective,

They call it polarizing because they haven't implemented a concerted effort to control it.

once they do, everyone will suddenly be in aggreement (just like those state department reports using Fox News stories as indicators of success in Iraq, it becomes a redundant echo chamber of truthiness)

NBC Executives are cleaning house starting with Tucker and moving to others. Yes David is on the list of the pink slip or a demotion. He did start out telling the truth and asking the right questions. Then along came Karl Rove and David took the pieces of silver and sold out. The dance was one of many in the relationship with his new friends at the White House. David became a White House insider along with Andrea Mitchell and Chris Matthews. These groupies were proud they could get inside information from the White House first. Like all greedy people David, Andrea and Chris were used to report the White House lies. It was great when the truth was a secret but now that the lies have been leaked and the public and the World knows it was NBC reporters who used the station for the Bush Administration's propaganda. David is blaming the bloggers as the White House blames Bill Clinton. I hope David was paid alot of money by the GOP as he will need it when he gets his pink slip. But there's always work at the Post Office.

Actually, the best quote from Richard Powers' commentary was "If Tom Paine was alive today, he would, of course, be a blogger."

Yes...Tom Payne would be a blogger, and David Gregory would be a TOWN CRIER for King George III. Just imagine his nightly copy: "Oh yay, oh yay...by order of His Royal Majesty King George III, bloggers like Thomas Paine are hereby declared to be enemies of the peace..."

Whats sad is that if you accept what Gregory is saying as true, his point is better ignorant and united than informed and polarized. Ass.

David Gregory is simply pathetic, the internet randomly produces more journalistic intelligence and integrity than he has managed to achieve in his entire career. Fuck you David Gregory, righteously in the ear!

Shadowgm @ 97:

Someone has to run it through the uh ... um ... de-ummer.

So true and funny too!

Silly me; I worked hard to get a Master's in education, when I could have been a high school dropout and become a WH "reporter".
[no offense to honorable h.s. dropouts]

Why don't they just have one WH reporter? Other than Helen Thomas, aren't they all pretty much superfluous?

Bullpoop!! It was Poppy's hack, the one that died of cancer who started the current hate wars that have ragged ever since. Adding to that later was the evil right winger Scaife who spent millions trying to oust Clinton. Add to that El Rushmo who fine tuned hate to a higher level and spawned a plethoria of wannabee's in his fat ass wake such as all the fox boys and girls. The republicans not only lie they are evil!!

Lindy

Well, I was going to post a snarky sarcasm filled rant about our old buddy David Gregory's ridiculous claim... But then read the rest of the leadin and some of the posts and I see it's all been covered well, so I don't really have to add anything. Thanks Mr. Amato and all other posters for pointing out the painfully obvious.. And thank you too David Gregory, for confirming how clueless you either have always been or have become.. Man, and I used to think you had something on the ball too..... silly me.....JD

Blame the blogs? that's a big stretch.

Oh wait, that's Sammons. What a dweeb Lil' Stretch is.

duncanidho @ 111:

# 9 lists the facst of why the internet is effective,

They call it polarizing because they haven't implemented a concerted effort to control it.

once they do, everyone will suddenly be in aggreement (just like those state department reports using Fox News stories as indicators of success in Iraq, it becomes a redundant echo chamber of truthiness)

Bingo. When the internet serves their ends, it's an exciting new trend and technology that offers immediacy and interactive content.

When it's perceived as being chock full of rabble-rousing dissidents or other enemies-du-jour (pr0nographers, mol3sters, t3Rr0r1$ts), it's the source of all evil and must be denounced.

And it's also a threat to their livelihood. A six- or seven- figure hairdo like Gregory or Katie Couric is now competing against contrasting voices, and knowing that they're not all sixteen-year olds living in Mom's basement, but voters/consumers/parents and others asking pertinent and sensible questions instead of snorting the White House line.

no longer a proud american @ 2:

gregory is really hard for me to read. In the beginning of this mess i viewed him as championing the liberal cause right there alongside helen thomas. then chinks in the armor began to surface. he was on stage encouraging those louts and rove in particular as he mimicked a rap singer. And now this. he needs to make up his mind, is he for justice or he just another media whore.

ill vote hes a whore!

The "old media" are afraid of the blogs, because they can no longer control the flow of information (the job the elite status quo have given them) to the sheeple.

ANd of course, our less-than-useless Reps are out to help them with HR-1955, which tells us that the Internet is a bad thing, only useful for terrorists to plan their acts on.

They suck (MSM and Reps).

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 123:

The "old media" are afraid of the blogs, because they can no longer control the flow of information (the job the elite status quo have given them) to the sheeple.

ANd of course, our less-than-useless Reps are out to help them with HR-1955, which tells us that the Internet is a bad thing, only useful for terrorists to plan their acts on.

They suck (MSM and Reps).

No such bill as H.R. 1955. Were you thinking of S. 1959, the 'Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism' Act?

So wait... none of you have heard the rumors about Gregory and Sen Craig?

gregory was shortly after danceing the fertility dace with rove seen haveing his anus pummeled by roves flabby member to the music of the macarina, ride em cowboy!

Cheesy macarena dance pards.

Is this Gregory guy a motherfucker or a cocksucker?Or both?

The internets? I thought it was that Rock and Roll music that got the kids all rowdy.

Where's the schizophrenic Bush presser thread?

Bush presser transcript now on the W.H. website. The guy who asked the economy question is someone named McKinnon.

Gregory has been stroked by the Bush Adm. He probably had his feelings hurt when Dana took over for Snow (thinking it would be a good paying gig for him).

Gregory really doesn't ask questions that the Ameican people want asked. He is fully blown controlled from the inside news. His press employer should consider replacing him with someone that will ask questions that the people would want to know. Therefore buying those newspaper articles, watching the news. The American people are disinterested in Gregory and his close relationship with the President.

I will bet a cup of coffee that when a Democratic pPresident be elected, Gregory starts asking questions?
Unlike he does now.

It is always so hillarious to hear newspeople as Gregory talking about what the American people want and need to know. Gregory does act as an authority on what America news is to be provided to us peons.
Like I said, Gregory has been stroked by the President and he now feels more important. Great for him-bad for us.

We are the victims of a corporate media monopoly and a relentless years' long barrage of hate-talk on reich-wing radio monopoly, courtesy of the drugged fat man, hannity, and o'lielly.

Blame the victims is the only thing these corporations and people do well.

The Internet is where the truth leaks out, you pea-brain.

Gregory epitomizes the MSM that stood by while the Bush Crime Family raped the constitution and murdered hundreds of thousands. He is clearly willing to sell out the country to advance himself. History will not look favorably on this shill.

See Photo above....Gregory quote, " I was only this far from being the new WhiteHouse
Press Secretary, but they wanted a cute, blond woman; but I am still striving and
working to gain such an appointment."

Wouldn't you just like to see this ...?

"... and, um, that's ... that's uh ... our strategy is working. It's working. Stretch?"

"Excuse me, Sir. David Gregory, NBC News. Please don't use nicknames because you can't be bothered to remember our names."

"Well, uh ... I thought it sounded kind 'a friendly-like ..."

"My friends call me Dave."

What the hell, man! When did Gregory drink the poison and become an ass-hat?? You know he used to stand up to the WarPigs, now he's bending over for them. I thought being a reporter meant staying objective. You watch, one of these days the internet in this country will be controlled just like it is China with talk like that. Well I have officially written him off as a NeoCon mouthpiece.

Stretch is right. Before these pesky blogs started up, we were all one big happy family, hand in hand, liberal and conservative, Democrat and Republican. Oh for the days when the only place to get our news was from the MSM.

Okay, kidding aside, what the MSM refuses to understand is that their own failures have resulted in the success of the blogs. If the MSM were doing their jobs properly and researching and investigating the news and then reporting it accurately, people would be less likely to turn to blogs for information. Open up your eyes, David. If you want to beat the blogs, quit whining and start acting like a journalist.

Obviously he is right

before the blogs the press was never wrong
before the blogs people were dished the complete truth
before the blogs politicians were honest with the American people
before the blogs America was ran by upstanding individuals
before the bogs there were no pundits
before the blogs there was no partisan politics
before the blogs the people ran the country
wait...... arent the blogs the voice of the people??

Is David Gregory getting senile or was he always just dumb?

Dick Gregory was characterized as a whore..... he is more like a pimp for the whores in the white house.

*Get used to me saying that. It’s the way Southern women use a common two-word put down containing a familiar expletive.

I was raised in the South and we would always say "How lovely" for that common two-would put down.

"Dances with Rove" is a Bush pussywhip.

Let's put the polarization where it really belongs. November 6, 2001. "You're either with us or against us." Although the words were directed at the rest of the world, they resonated at home: Anyone who dissents is the enemy.
And I'll add this, if Mr Gregory and the rest of the MSM had done/would do their jobs, the blogs wouldn't be so prominent today.

GSD @ 1:

If Rove was Bush's brain, David Gregory is Rove's pud.

Another hack who would rather debase himself for The Villagers by dancing around like a buffoon instead of keeping aloof from them like Sy Hersch.

Gregory is a major league asshole.

-GSD

Add empty suit, pretty-boy, puta grande. If it weeren't for the blogs there would be no real news, just propaganda of which Gregory Dumbass dirtibutes on a regular basis...and he's a lousy dancer too. A stiff WASP who's never worked a day in his life. But what do I know, I'm just the help...expendible help.

lets not forget that Clinton had to be guilty of "something" all throughout the 90's.

the real story is , why do they let the repugs play dirty and dems have to play by the rules?
once the dems stand up and start to count again.....it's polarizing??????

it's all framing!

John,

I have a good friend from the South who says "Bless her heart" too. It really is accurate here as Gregory is totally ignoring what's been going on these past 2 decades. There's always an urge of these media types to create equivalencies where none exist between what the wingnuts have been doing to our country and the fact that we are just now beginning to find our voice and organize against them. We have every right to be angry. Any informed American should be.

Our position isn't partisan. John Dean and Bruce Fein are both true conservatives and they've been the loudest voices speaking against this mal-administration.

Nice take down by Richard Power. Susan G at Daily Kos also did an excellent job with Ron Brownstein's poor attempt to show how much the left acts like the right in this country.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/27/103137/79

My mama used to say "bless your heart" or "bless his/her heart", but it wasn't always a put-down. It works both ways, as the definition you suggest or as a sincere expression of sympathy for another's heartache.

What an insufferable dip stick.

Throughout history, there has been polarity of class, thinly disguised as ideology, sovereignty and other forms of territory which are ultimately related to resource acquisition and security.

If I need more oil, and you got the oil, and I can not take it from you under my own power, then I must enlist the help of others, and then it is important that you are wrong or guilty of something that the others will agree with and side with me to give power and strength beyond what I can produce. If I "cut-you-in" on the deal, then you will be even more likely to march with me.

That there has not been more polarity in this country, a country with a constitution that opens the prospect of identifying publicly, the deceptions for capital enhancement, is because of the relative wealth and security most in this country have enjoyed. Even in bad times, the rich and powerful have provided just enough material anesthetic and ideological preservative to keep their ball rolling.

Gregory and others try to float, ever more so weakly and lamely, that their north pole has an equatorial relationship with our south pole, and that we are the cold ones.

As far as I am concerned, "polar" is the soft end of my relationship with the Corrupt Bastards Club. That the blogs give us a world view glimpse, is an indictment of all other heavily censored and controlled forms of communication, even two folks getting together in the open and talking is now a threat.

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