Gore claims his prize

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Al Gore was in Oslo, Norway, this morning to pick up his Nobel Peace Prize. If you have a minute, his acceptance speech is well worth reading.

For example, I didn’t realize it, but this week is the seventh anniversary of Gore’s concessions speech after the 2000 race.

Seven years ago tomorrow, I read my own political obituary in a judgment that seemed to me harsh and mistaken – if not premature. But that unwelcome verdict also brought a precious if painful gift: an opportunity to search for fresh new ways to serve my purpose.

Unexpectedly, that quest has brought me here. Even though I fear my words cannot match this moment, I pray what I am feeling in my heart will be communicated clearly enough that those who hear me will say, “We must act.” [...]

We, the human species, are confronting a planetary emergency – a threat to the survival of our civilization that is gathering ominous and destructive potential even as we gather here. But there is hopeful news as well: we have the ability to solve this crisis and avoid the worst – though not all – of its consequences, if we act boldly, decisively and quickly.

However, despite a growing number of honorable exceptions, too many of the world’s leaders are still best described in the words Winston Churchill applied to those who ignored Adolf Hitler’s threat: “They go on in strange paradox, decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all powerful to be impotent.”

He didn’t mention any names, but we could probably could come up with a few suspects.



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Oprah?!?

Good for him, but... come on, the Hitler reference is overused. Especially after Bush's cronies have used and abused it. Still, he does it better than any of them, no surprise.

"Does anybody with an IQ above double digits actually buy into Al Gore's horseshit?" -George W. Bush

Kudos to Gore. The global warming deniers like John Stossel can pound sand

Paging: Kathleen Harris...Kathleen Harris....we have an award for you too. The "How to Rape America Award".

I already admitted to crying today as I watched the tape of his speech on c-span. He was so good and every word he said needed to be said. Here's the irony of all this, his own country's leader refuses to take anything about global warming seriously. Refuses to join other countries who do. In the interview after the speech he mentioned that he hopes who ever is the next president will take it seriously, he said, they must.

Please tell me again how George W. Bush got even close to the same number of votes as Gore in 2000?

Congratulations, Al... glad you found a way to still make a difference in the world.

"I kill brown people"
-George W. Bush

sofla @ 7:

Please tell me again how George W. Bush got even close to the same number of votes as Gore in 2000?

He didn't.

JLee @ 2:

Good for him, but... come on, the Hitler reference is overused. Especially after Bush's cronies have used and abused it. Still, he does it better than any of them, no surprise.

JLee, did you read the quote? It was powerful and timely. I agree that "Hitler spectre" has been summoned so much lately that it looses its significance. However, the quote is significant: “They go on in strange paradox, decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all powerful to be impotent.”

mrogi @ 3:

"Does anybody with an IQ above double digits actually buy into Al Gore's horseshit?" -George W. Bush

Considering herr dubyah and every reich-wing cultist does not have an I.Q. above double digits, it explains why they refuse to accept global climate change.

Im CEREAL guys!!! I'm super CEREAL!!!

wisedup @ 5:

Paging: Kathleen Harris...Kathleen Harris....we have an award for you too. The "How to Rape America Award".

Hey, Buddy. Its "Katherine", Ok???? How quickly they forget knotted-up nutbag fascists with blue eyeshadow. Jeez.

Exactly what part of "wrong" is irresolute ?

I think Al Gore hurts this cause. Since the Larry King "debate" with Ross Perot on NAFTA, I don't believe a word he says .

Predictably, the conservative chattering class and its amen corner in the right-wing blogosphere are apoplectic about the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Al Gore. But their rage and angst about the Nobel Committee's "politicized awards" for "mass exaggerators" and "deceptive rhetoric" isn't merely a function of the inconvenient truth of the success of Gore's global warming campaign. No, the rugged individualists of the right are just hopping mad that they never win prizes designed to recognize contributions to, well, the rest of humanity.

To remedy this perpetual slight, then, here are:
"Conservative Nobel Prizes We'd Like to See."

Please tax everyone mr gore, please tax us.

When are you useful idiots going to wake up, Al was there for NAFTA, Chinese money etc, etc, there is not difference between him, Bush, Clinton, Rudy, etc, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME...
Good ol Al is using his new religion, aka, Global warming, to make millions, see Drudge on a story about him charging up the ass for speeches then boring everyone to tears. Al does not want universal health care or any other socialism, he just want to state relevant with this global whining crap!

[This is spamming. Knock it off-Sitemonitor]

Yeah, but Bush read five Shakespeares.

mrogi is gonna have to leave his Mom's computer now and spy on the neighbor's children instead.

Chris @ 19:

When are you useful idiots going to wake up, Al was there for NAFTA, Chinese money etc, etc, there is not difference between him, Bush, Clinton, Rudy, etc, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME...
Good ol Al is using his new religion, aka, Global warming, to make millions, see Drudge on a story about him charging up the ass for speeches then boring everyone to tears. Al does not want universal health care or any other socialism, he just want to state relevant with this global whining crap!

You're in the wrong place for Drudge promotion.

Thanks, Mr Gore, for your hard work and for bringing some good to the country.

The topic of Al Gore creates the wetspots on the blogs.

For president, I want someone with Gore's understanding, someone with Bill Clinton's hardshell and political smarts, and someone with Nixon's smarts and SOB-ness.

So when does Bush claim his war prize?

OK - now anyone who read that and reads this who still owns an SUV- know this: YOU ARE THE ENEMY. Democrat, Republican, whatever. And know this: If you live in a major city with working public transport, YOU ARE THE ENEMY. If you live in a city and don't have good public transport - GET INVOLVED AND FIX IT. If you live in some McMansion in the suburbs: KILL YOURSELF NOW. FOR THE SAKE OF THE PLANET. KILL YOURSELF NOW. YOU ARE THE ENEMY. DIE NOW. DO US ALL A FAVOUR.

Al Gore is for single-payer national healthcare just like Dennis Kucinich. Hillary, Barack and John are for insurance company corporate welfare healthcare.

Al Gore and Dennis Kucinich have much in common.

If you really wanted to vote for Gore a vote for Kucinich is your best bet.

Nobel Prize ceremony to be replayed on CSPAN (1) at 8:01pm EST tonight (Monday 12/10)...

... and again at ...
- 12:05am EST, Tuesday (CSPAN)
- 5:41am EST, Tuesday (CSPAN)

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

Chris @ 19:

When are you useful idiots going to wake up, Al was there for NAFTA, Chinese money etc, etc, there is not difference between him, Bush, Clinton, Rudy, etc, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME...
Good ol Al is using his new religion, aka, Global warming, to make millions, see Drudge on a story about him charging up the ass for speeches then boring everyone to tears. Al does not want universal health care or any other socialism, he just want to state relevant with this global whining crap!

I partially agree. I don't think Gore would have done any of this if the 2000 election had been accurately determined. Gore was very much a centrist and would have continued many of the policies of Clinton (Bill) that hurt working and middle-class folks. Of course, that would still put us in way better shape than we are now. There will eventually be overwhelming momentum to address healthcare and climate change, and Gore wouldn't resist as much as Cheney and Bush.

Your comment seems to imply that global warming is not happening. You are misguided in this respect.

mrogi @ 3:

"Does anybody with an IQ above double digits actually buy into Al Gore's horseshit?" -George W. Bush

WTF would Bu$h know about anyone having an IQ in the double digits?! His is singular as is most of his idiotic friends who surround him.

plooger @ 30:

Nobel Prize ceremony to be replayed on CSPAN (1) at 8:01pm EST tonight (Monday 12/10)...

... and again at ...
- 12:05am EST, Tuesday (CSPAN)
- 5:41am EST, Tuesday (CSPAN)

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

Thx.

Like the photo. Al Gore in Our Town.

Old Billy @ 31: I partially agree. I don't think Gore would have done any of this if the 2000 election had been accurately determined. Gore was very much a centrist and would have continued many of the policies of Clinton (Bill) that hurt working and middle-class folks.

Not sure this is an accurate recollection of history. Gore definitely had issues as VP, and was right there supporting NAFTA as a DLCer, but my recollection was that Gore began making a decidedly populist/progressive shift during the 2000 campaign. It's difficult, if not impossible, to say what a Gore Presidency would have brought.

As for his current emphasis on Climate Change, Gore himself said in the above speech that his loss of the Presidency is what instigated his search for an alternate way to "serve (his) purpose." It's inarguable that he would NOT have had as much time to focus on climate change from the White House, but... he could have accomplished much more.

Johnny2Bad @ 9:

sofla @ 7:

Please tell me again how George W. Bush got even close to the same number of votes as Gore in 2000?

He didn't.

Exactly what I was thinking...

Chris @ 19:

When are you useful idiots going to wake up, Al was there for NAFTA, Chinese money etc, etc, there is not difference between him, Bush, Clinton, Rudy, etc, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME...
Good ol Al is using his new religion, aka, Global warming, to make millions, see Drudge on a story about him charging up the ass for speeches then boring everyone to tears. Al does not want universal health care or any other socialism, he just want to state relevant with this global whining crap!

Thank goodness most of the rest of the world isn't as stupid as you and your ilk. Gore has brought some respectalbiilty to this country unlike the idiot in the white house and his thugs. I should read a derogatory story on Drudge about a guy who just won a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE from an international committee? That's a good reference.
Reagan did away with the fairness doctrine, and out came all the rats, drudge, rush, billo, etc. and the morons like you fall for every word they say. They have successfully divided this country so much that instead of being proud of an American who has been recognized with one of the highest international honors, you denigrate his work. You of course know so much more than all those scientists. How about doing a little fact based reading? You can start by seeing what Drudge gets for speaking engagements. They all get big money. It's what they do with that money. I'll take Gore spending money on global warming than Bush on making money on oil that happens to be in another sovereign country.

Kudos to Al Gore!

say the word Mr. President. just say the word.

You're damn right, Al, that your political obituary was "premature." You should have added "stupid." It didn't have to be that way, if your "advisers" hadn't prevailed on you to prematurely pull the plug on the (what should have been a complete) recount in Florida, not to mention if you hadn't listened to your advisers about how to run what turned out to be an abysmally mismanaged (one of the worst in history) campaign.

Here's what I'll never understand: in spite of presiding over one of the worst political campaigns in history, the likes of Bob Shrum and Donna Brazile ended up running Kerry's campaign as well, and guess what happened? What, do the Democrats not believe in the wisdom of the old "fool me once, fool me twice" bromide? Is their learning curve really that steep? My guess is it is, and the proof of that will come, yet again, when they nominate HLC to, once again, snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Kerry took a dive. They called him a coward and he curled right up.

Al Gore is an idiot because he is not mean and predatory, he does not play-to-win, we need thugs-not wise men.

or is that why I find him refreshing?

Oh boy!! An Al Gore lovefest!! I've watched the sly lines in an Inconvenient Truth. He slams and digs to promote.......al Gore....sorry, the message is very important, but Gore really did nothing to deserve a Nobel Prize. He made a movie. Important? Yes. Worth a Nobel? Nope.

ConcernedCanuck @ 43:

Oh boy!! An Al Gore lovefest!! I've watched the sly lines in an Inconvenient Truth. He slams and digs to promote.......al Gore....sorry, the message is very important, but Gore really did nothing to deserve a Nobel Prize. He made a movie. Important? Yes. Worth a Nobel? Nope.

Too bad the Nobel Prize Committee disagrees with you.

The WWII analogy is popular these days, first Donald Rumsfeld, now Al Gore? Nothing pumps up the fear factor like the Nazi's. But wait there's more! Then it's on to nuclear war, mutually assured destruction and a "carbon summer". Actually, not sure if "Carbon Summer" sounds scary enough, might want to flesh that one out in some more focus groups. Missing from the fright repertoire was "armageddon", I guess humans can't reverse from that precipice. This is a story of redemption afterall, without the element of redemption, the story is not very intersting.

Fox is going to have to turn themselves inside out trying to give this negative spin.

I think it's funny.

Congratulations Mr. President.
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JLee @ 2:

Good for him, but... come on, the Hitler reference is overused. Especially after Bush's cronies have used and abused it. Still, he does it better than any of them, no surprise.

This is an old speech.

But the Hitler analogies are NOT overused. As used by Bushbots, they are inaccurate - but in relation to current political shenanigans by the repiglican Reich wing - they are not used often enough. Any good understanding of the early politics of Germany in that period reveal that there is an absolute and clear pattern of following the Nazi strategies.

And the dems are merely monkeys to the repiglican organ grinders. They are also culpable.
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mrogi @ 3:

"Does anybody with an IQ above double digits actually buy into Al Gore's horseshit?" -George W. Bush

How would batboy know anything about horseshit?

The wimpy whiny brat is afraid of horses..

He's fond of frogs though - because he can blow them up.
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Bush's award after leaving office: 20 years to life in a Federal penitentiary ( tried in absentia)

drshatterhand @ 26:

So when does Bush claim his war prize?

He'll be able to pick that up from the Hague in a few years.
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As the American poet Robert Frost wrote, “Some say the world will end in fire; some say in ice.” Either, he notes, “would suffice.”

But neither need be our fate. It is time to make peace with the planet.

Hopefully, in 2009, such a thing will still be possible

you were our best hope. What happened?

Grachou, thanks for not addressing any of the issues I brought up, your boy is a fake...

If man made Global Warming is a scientific fact, and Al Gore has proved it with his research and documentary then why did he not receive the Nobel prize for physics???

Man made Global Warming is nothing but a tool to enforce more control and steal more money, it is BS.

Wake up and figure out that politics is nothing but the elite ruling the rest. Politicians, political parties, government are all bullshit. They are all just killers, liars, and thieves doing business at the barrel of a gun.

Keep lapin' it up sheeple...

AL GORE is my president too, and a Nobel Peace Prize winning one at that.

So come back and run AL!

Make the changes by ruling the US, only YOU can make it happen.

I'm not sure if Hillary or Obama will be as commited to making a CRITICAL change for our planet.

Run, Al, RUN!

Al recognizes that he can still serve a higher purpose and not be president. That maturity is absolutely missing in our current politics, with few exceptions, like Kooch, Dodd and Paul.

It's quite important that Gore recognizes and points out the type of political leadership we have today and the similarity to the time of Nazi Germany when poor leadership led to WW2.

Good germans like Howie Long ought to keep that kind of thought in mind.

SM @ 53:

Run, Al, RUN!

I'd suggest you put your focus on Kucinich. Al Gore is not going to run and Kucinich is as close to Al Gore as we'll get in this election.

To think what might have been? Instead, we are left to pick up what pieces remain of our shattered country, thanks to the boy idiot from texas, and vice president satan.

Would you like a side of corporate fascism to go with your endless destruction of the earth?

ConcernedCanuck @ 41:
Chris @ 18:
thesidster @ 15:
JLee @ 2:

Jealous your fuhrer has less stature than a non-president?

freeman @ 52:

looking for a brain, aren't you! :lol:

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah OH that had to make Bush's butt itch, an international standing ovation out of pure honor and respect for his efforts. Bush will only get that honor in hell.

Already some anti-Gore sentiment springs up, even here on "Crooks & Liars." Ladies and gentlemen, being a bit of a centrist isn't the worst thing in the world. Just because Al Gore, Bill Clinton, and whomever else leans a little more right than you do doesn't mean they're 'basically the same as George W. Bush.'

We will never know how a Gore Presidency worked out, but I hope Americans everywhere are shamed enough to learn from the example of the 2000 election. A simple 'Where Are They Now' of both former candidates is revealing. Gore is still as intelligent and articulate as he has always been, and as committed to his own academic pursuits. He is popular worldwide, a published author, and a Nobel Peace Prize winner. He is a straightforward man, though a little meticulous (which, in the U.S., is apparently a terrible thing to be - since there is no greater sin than being Smart and Boring).

Al Gore's continuing success amidst the spectacular failures of an unrepentant and unchallenged George W. Bush ought to make anyone living in the United States sick to their stomach. That's the long and the short of it.

If anybody's interested, here are the speeches from Gore and Rajendra as a streaming video from the swedish public tv.

http://svt.se/content/1/c6/99/78/20/NYH_NOBEL_AL_GORE.asx
http://svt.se/content/1/c6/99/76/35/NYH_NOBEL_RAJENDRA.asx

Speeches are about 20-22 minutes long and Rajendra's is very, very scientific.

It amazes me that Al Gore won the peas prize and it shows that the award has become completely political. Nothing has been published that actually proves the Global Warming Theory, and it is for darn sure that Montana is no warmer.
Greenhouse gas is good for the enviroment. It gives plants the carbon and cyanide they need to grow. That is why they call it Greenhouse gas, it helps plants. This talk about the Ice caps melting is also bull, we are just coming out of an ice age, and ice melts when you are in a thaw.
The biggest point of all is, that no one else in the world is doing anything about Greenhouse gas, so why should we? It would be like stopping the genocide in Darfur, no one else is stopping it, so doing anything would be wrong.
If anything is causing the world to warm up, it is probably the fact that the Sun is getting closer to the Earth. As the Sun orbits Earth, it is slowing due to space friction. Also man should have never landed on the sun as God never wanted us to go there. But that is another arguement for another day.

P.S. Vote fer Jeb in 08.

CoIntelPro @ 57:

ConcernedCanuck @ 41:
Chris @ 18:
thesidster @ 15:
JLee @ 2:

Jealous your fuhrer has less stature than a non-president?

Yep, those morons would rather listen to economists paid by ExxonMobil/AEI/CEI instead of the 2500 scientists that have dedicated their lives to the study of the earth, the insurance industry (you know...the ones that invented risk assessment), the pentagon, their own president that acknowledges its existence (wow...they're even dumber than him now...whew...), Fortune 500 CEOs that all came to a consensus to change their (except those in the Old energy biz - but including GM, Ford which have both joined climate protection associations since 2005) direction, Wolfowitz, John McCain (& the rest of the republicans that acknowledge the earth is older than 6,000 years...), and far, far too many more to name.

Put it this way, you wouldn't want to go to Vegas with these idiots...

And his 'Presidential Medal of Freedom' is only thirteen months away.

Greetings from Oslo.

We are proud to have a great American like Al Gore here, receiving that price.

I'm sad that some people have lost faith in ALL OF mankind, and cannot comprehend that there are still good people fighting a good fight out there. Remember that even the best people are only human too. Al Gore has never been all-mighty or all-knowing. He might have been more intertwined with the DLC Dems for a period, he might have listened too much to clueless, defeatist advisers during the 2000 Presidential campaign, and he might have given up the fight against the Bush coup too easily. However, like most of us, he didn't know then what he knows now. He didn't know how grave this takeover was. Neither did we. We learned. He learned.

Whoever has read Gore's latest book "The Assault on Reason" can't have any doubt that he stands for the good old American ideals and the Constitution.

It's so sad to see people claiming that ALL politicians, ALL businesspeople, ALL authority figures are corrupt and are only acting out of evil and self-interest and everything they say can be traced back to some Machiavellian scheme.

When I hear that I think; Idiots! That's exactly what all the bad apples want you to believe! They want you to give up all hope for any good to come out of anything. Not being able to see clearly and thus not recognizing good when you see it, is a sure way to the dark side. The apathy and passive aggression instilled by this notion is EXACTLY what they want from people. That way, they can do whatever they want while you all sit alone whining that you cannot trust anyone and that organizing your efforts are pointless.

If only more than 60% of people showed up to vote, Bush would never had been able to steal the Presidency. I'm 100% convinced that the majority of these voters lean any elections could be easily won by whoever could tap into the 50-40% of people that are too disillusioned to vote normally. (Let me be clear, Mrs Clinton is the last person in the world who could mobilize these people.)

It looks to me like both major Democratic and Republican figures are aiming for lowest possible voter turnout. That way, the 25% of the people that are bat-shit crazy Fascists and sadists always look like they make up 50%. While good men does nothing, evil prevails.

Al Gore is one of the last good men in American politics. I hope some day America will be ready for a leader of his caliber.

Don From Canada @ 62:

It amazes me that Al Gore won the peas prize and it shows that the award has become completely political. Nothing has been published that actually proves the Global Warming Theory, and it is for darn sure that Montana is no warmer.
Greenhouse gas is good for the enviroment. It gives plants the carbon and cyanide they need to grow. That is why they call it Greenhouse gas, it helps plants. This talk about the Ice caps melting is also bull, we are just coming out of an ice age, and ice melts when you are in a thaw.
The biggest point of all is, that no one else in the world is doing anything about Greenhouse gas, so why should we? It would be like stopping the genocide in Darfur, no one else is stopping it, so doing anything would be wrong.
If anything is causing the world to warm up, it is probably the fact that the Sun is getting closer to the Earth. As the Sun orbits Earth, it is slowing due to space friction. Also man should have never landed on the sun as God never wanted us to go there. But that is another arguement for another day.

P.S. Vote fer Jeb in 08.

Aaahahaha! That was hilarious :D

I would like to add that seeing how the climate has changed here in Norway over the last 10 years, there is no doubt that a global warming is happening. The winters down south are not what they used to be, and the weather has definitely changed. Ask anyone who lives here.

CoIntelPro @ 58:

freeman @ 52:

looking for a brain, aren't you! :lol:

Nice disinfo/propaganda tactic. No intelligent answer so you attack. No I am quite sure that my brain is quite capable to see through the lies and rhetoric. Can't stand Al Gore, Bush, Hitlery, Mitt, Ghuliani and all the rest of these traitors.

freeman @ 68:

CoIntelPro @ 58:

freeman @ 52:

looking for a brain, aren't you! :lol:

Nice disinfo/propaganda tactic. No intelligent answer so you attack. No I am quite sure that my brain is quite capable to see through the lies and rhetoric. Can't stand Al Gore, Bush, Hitlery, Mitt, Ghuliani and all the rest of these traitors.

Still no reason why you lump Gore in with these people. Please red my post above that was directly targeted at hopeless people like you.

JLee @ 2:

Good for him, but... come on, the Hitler reference is overused. Especially after Bush's cronies have used and abused it. Still, he does it better than any of them, no surprise.

I can think of another thing he did better than Bush...he LOST the election.

The Supreme Court threw the election of 2000 in violation of the US Constitution. In an election that close, it should've been the Senate who determined the outcome. The outcome would've most likely been the same, or hung up, since Congress was controlled by the GOP then.

However, if the Senate couldn't settle the matter the Presidential Succession Act would've kicked in and made the president Dennis Hastert, as the house speaker, until someone qualified.

8 Dr. Matt

I see dead people

georgie w boosh.

It is sad to see some of the personal,hatefull posts going on. Al Gore is not the issue, global warming is the real issue. Some of you morons need to take the time and effort to put your bullshit politics aside and read what the sceince says about climate change. Who cares if its manmade or not, the world is warming at a alarming rate and its your kids and grandkids who are going to pay. I find it stupid that people will shoot the messenger because of bullshit hatered of a man because of politics. Wakeup folks your kids lives depend on what we do or do not do.

DiamondMC @ 73:

It is sad to see some of the personal,hatefull posts going on. Al Gore is not the issue, global warming is the real issue. Some of you morons need to take the time and effort to put your bullshit politics aside and read what the sceince says about climate change. Who cares if its manmade or not, the world is warming at a alarming rate and its your kids and grandkids who are going to pay. I find it stupid that people will shoot the messenger because of bullshit hatered of a man because of politics. Wakeup folks your kids lives depend on what we do or do not do.

Wow. Who cares if its man-made or not? I care, and more specifically, I'd like to know exactly how much of the warming today is man made. No one really knows the answer to this, because no one can yet decribe with any precision the underlying dynamics of earth's warm/cold cycles (hint: it's not constant). When Al Gore gets away with apocalyptic rhethoric about AGW and no one can challenge him on it for fear of professional reprisal etc. - yes I do have a problem with that messenger. I have no hatred of Al Gore and outside of his fear mongering with AGW I actually admire him very much. I certainly wish he had been our President.

Nobel Peace concert just started
Unfortunately I do not have the means to record it to send it to you, I am sure some other1 will
I am proud of Al Gore. CNN's J. Mann had an interview with him yesterday in Oslo, and the way he answered the famous question "will you run in 08" had a hint that he may saying "I have not ruled out"

Imagine if Al Gore was our president right now receiving a peace prize, president of peace NOT war………
Imagine there was no war in Iraq and Afghanistan
Imagine......

WE the People are DOOMED
to the IGNORANCE we are.

NOTHING IS BEING DONE...

until the republicans are floating in rafts............

Don From Canada @ 62:

It amazes me that Al Gore won the peas prize and it shows that the award has become completely political. Nothing has been published that actually proves the Global Warming Theory, and it is for darn sure that Montana is no warmer.
Greenhouse gas is good for the enviroment. It gives plants the carbon and cyanide they need to grow. That is why they call it Greenhouse gas, it helps plants. This talk about the Ice caps melting is also bull, we are just coming out of an ice age, and ice melts when you are in a thaw.
The biggest point of all is, that no one else in the world is doing anything about Greenhouse gas, so why should we? It would be like stopping the genocide in Darfur, no one else is stopping it, so doing anything would be wrong.
If anything is causing the world to warm up, it is probably the fact that the Sun is getting closer to the Earth. As the Sun orbits Earth, it is slowing due to space friction. Also man should have never landed on the sun as God never wanted us to go there. But that is another arguement for another day.

P.S. Vote fer Jeb in 08.

Who the hell cares who's right. If any of this helps clean up the environment what's wrong with that. Please turn of FOX News

unfrozencaveman @ 74:

DiamondMC @ 73:

It is sad to see some of the personal,hatefull posts going on. Al Gore is not the issue, global warming is the real issue. Some of you morons need to take the time and effort to put your bullshit politics aside and read what the sceince says about climate change. Who cares if its manmade or not, the world is warming at a alarming rate and its your kids and grandkids who are going to pay. I find it stupid that people will shoot the messenger because of bullshit hatered of a man because of politics. Wakeup folks your kids lives depend on what we do or do not do.

Wow. Who cares if its man-made or not? I care, and more specifically, I'd like to know exactly how much of the warming today is man made. No one really knows the answer to this, because no one can yet decribe with any precision the underlying dynamics of earth's warm/cold cycles (hint: it's not constant). When Al Gore gets away with apocalyptic rhethoric about AGW and no one can challenge him on it for fear of professional reprisal etc. - yes I do have a problem with that messenger. I have no hatred of Al Gore and outside of his fear mongering with AGW I actually admire him very much. I certainly wish he had been our President.

I'll try one more time. I am less concerned with the who, as I am with what we do about it. If it is manmade or not we need to address the problem of climate change and try to alter it to the benifit of humankind. I do think that humans are part of the problem, but we are wasting time on that question. Everything I have read tells me that we have a global problem that needs answers now.

NPR's "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" had a great line: Dubya told Gore that perhaps if things had gone differently in 2000, President Gore might be receiving Gov. George W. Bush, who had won a Nobel Prize for clearing shrubs.

Do you think they gathered around the set to watch in the White House????????

freeman @ 52:

If man made Global Warming is a scientific fact, and Al Gore has proved it with his research and documentary then why did he not receive the Nobel prize for physics???

Man made Global Warming is nothing but a tool to enforce more control and steal more money, it is BS.

Wake up and figure out that politics is nothing but the elite ruling the rest. Politicians, political parties, government are all bullshit. They are all just killers, liars, and thieves doing business at the barrel of a gun.

Keep lapin' it up sheeple...

You are right.

A carbon tax? That sounds like a tax on breathing. Anyway. Since the global war on terror is'nt going to over to well with the populus the facists have to pass the batton to the Fabian Socialist and the "Man made" global warming tax scheme.

The Sun is causing THE ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM TO HEAT UP!

This carbon tax will do nothing about GMO crops that have hidden poisons being developed by Monsanto. This will not do anything about Cross species genetic maniplulation, heavy metal toxic dumping banded pesticides still being used and imported into the country. ect.

This is not a cave man talking. This carbon tax is a fraud and it is SUPPORTED by big business and will stop developement in the undeveloped world. If this passes and they regulate carbon dioxide which is the gas that plants breathe (crops grow stronger and more plentyful) The industries will leave the US even faster.

Its a farse. There is global warming but it is caused by the sun.

DiamondMC @ 79:

unfrozencaveman @ 74:

DiamondMC @ 73:

It is sad to see some of the personal,hatefull posts going on. Al Gore is not the issue, global warming is the real issue. Some of you morons need to take the time and effort to put your bullshit politics aside and read what the sceince says about climate change. Who cares if its manmade or not, the world is warming at a alarming rate and its your kids and grandkids who are going to pay. I find it stupid that people will shoot the messenger because of bullshit hatered of a man because of politics. Wakeup folks your kids lives depend on what we do or do not do.

Wow. Who cares if its man-made or not? I care, and more specifically, I'd like to know exactly how much of the warming today is man made. No one really knows the answer to this, because no one can yet decribe with any precision the underlying dynamics of earth's warm/cold cycles (hint: it's not constant). When Al Gore gets away with apocalyptic rhethoric about AGW and no one can challenge him on it for fear of professional reprisal etc. - yes I do have a problem with that messenger. I have no hatred of Al Gore and outside of his fear mongering with AGW I actually admire him very much. I certainly wish he had been our President.

I'll try one more time. I am less concerned with the who, as I am with what we do about it. If it is manmade or not we need to address the problem of climate change and try to alter it to the benifit of humankind. I do think that humans are part of the problem, but we are wasting time on that question. Everything I have read tells me that we have a global problem that needs answers now.

So if I understand you correctly, you believe that even if the change in climate is mostly natural - we need to figure out how to control our climate so it's stops changing? First, that's not possible. Learn about how man tried to stop hurricanes or cloud seed to see how we don't possess any ability to control climate and weather. Secondly, I believe you've fallen victim to media saturation on the topic which blurs the line between what is natural climate change and what may or may not be the result of CO2 increases. It's been drilled into everyone's head that changes in the climate are inherently wrong.

Whenever a natural disaster happens that is weather related, you see a massive discrepancy in the death toll between a developed nation and a non-developed nation. Katrina of course is the massive exception to this rule. If you were to increase the standard living, the death tolls from natural disasters drops exponentially. This is guaranteed. Whats not gauranteed is knowing the amount of natural disasters that will happen in the future (including possible sea level rises). Much, much more uncertain is even with technology advances, that somehow man will have some control over the climate. Improving global standard of living is the key - and this is going to happen because it has happen almost uninterrupted through the history of civilization. I wouldn't worry about your grandchildren, they will be fine. I'd be much more concerned with those that are suffering today.

celsius @ 69:

freeman @ 68:

CoIntelPro @ 58:

freeman @ 52:

looking for a brain, aren't you! :lol:

Nice disinfo/propaganda tactic. No intelligent answer so you attack. No I am quite sure that my brain is quite capable to see through the lies and rhetoric. Can't stand Al Gore, Bush, Hitlery, Mitt, Ghuliani and all the rest of these traitors.

Still no reason why you lump Gore in with these people. Please red my post above that was directly targeted at hopeless people like you.

celsius @ 69:

What evidence do you have that I am hopeless....zero....just another attack. Do some research, google Al Gore and Maurice Strong. Do you know who Maurice Strong is? Al's partner to scam money from people through the carbon tax. Maybe read this: http://www.mises.org/story/2795

There's a difference between Man made Global Warming, does not exist, and Global Warming caused by the sun, does exist.

What makes you think that this rich elitist prick is any different than the rest??? Because Al says so....c'mon. Time for a paradigm shift here fella.

Peace

unfrozencaveman @ 83:

DiamondMC @ 79:

unfrozencaveman @ 74:

DiamondMC @ 73:

Wow. Who cares if its man-made or not? I care, and more specifically, I'd like to know exactly how much of the warming today is man made. No one really knows the answer to this, because no one can yet decribe with any precision the underlying dynamics of earth's warm/cold cycles (hint: it's not constant). When Al Gore gets away with apocalyptic rhethoric about AGW and no one can challenge him on it for fear of professional reprisal etc. - yes I do have a problem with that messenger. I have no hatred of Al Gore and outside of his fear mongering with AGW I actually admire him very much. I certainly wish he had been our President.

I'll try one more time. I am less concerned with the who, as I am with what we do about it. If it is manmade or not we need to address the problem of climate change and try to alter it to the benifit of humankind. I do think that humans are part of the problem, but we are wasting time on that question. Everything I have read tells me that we have a global problem that needs answers now.

So if I understand you correctly, you believe that even if the change in climate is mostly natural - we need to figure out how to control our climate so it's stops changing? First, that's not possible. Learn about how man tried to stop hurricanes or cloud seed to see how we don't possess any ability to control climate and weather. Secondly, I believe you've fallen victim to media saturation on the topic which blurs the line between what is natural climate change and what may or may not be the result of CO2 increases. It's been drilled into everyone's head that changes in the climate are inherently wrong.

Whenever a natural disaster happens that is weather related, you see a massive discrepancy in the death toll between a developed nation and a non-developed nation. Katrina of course is the massive exception to this rule. If you were to increase the standard living, the death tolls from natural disasters drops exponentially. This is guaranteed. Whats not gauranteed is knowing the amount of natural disasters that will happen in the future (including possible sea level rises). Much, much more uncertain is even with technology advances, that somehow man will have some control over the climate. Improving global standard of living is the key - and this is going to happen because it has happen almost uninterrupted through the history of civilization. I wouldn't worry about your grandchildren, they will be fine. I'd be much more concerned with those that are suffering today.

Well I just don't know what to say. I think maybe you should take the time to read up on what science knows about the changing climate. Their are things we can do to soften the blow, clean energy,better cars ect, ect. Or we can do nothing and pretend we don't understand . Hell, maybe the earth is flat and god will protect us.

celsius @ 66:

Don From Canada @ 62:

It amazes me that Al Gore won the peas prize and it shows that the award has become completely political. Nothing has been published that actually proves the Global Warming Theory, and it is for darn sure that Montana is no warmer.
Greenhouse gas is good for the enviroment. It gives plants the carbon and cyanide they need to grow. That is why they call it Greenhouse gas, it helps plants. This talk about the Ice caps melting is also bull, we are just coming out of an ice age, and ice melts when you are in a thaw.
The biggest point of all is, that no one else in the world is doing anything about Greenhouse gas, so why should we? It would be like stopping the genocide in Darfur, no one else is stopping it, so doing anything would be wrong.
If anything is causing the world to warm up, it is probably the fact that the Sun is getting closer to the Earth. As the Sun orbits Earth, it is slowing due to space friction. Also man should have never landed on the sun as God never wanted us to go there. But that is another arguement for another day.

P.S. Vote fer Jeb in 08.

Aaahahaha! That was hilarious :D

I am glad you found it funny. Some have taken what I have said, seriously. I don't know if that is a statement about how dumb a republican can be, or if we Liberal types need to remember to take a breath and laugh in the face of outright stupidity?

It’s hard not to suspect you’re delusional when you think you’ve produced the video that may save the world. I suppose all I can do is put it out there and let history judge.

The ten-minute home video is called “How It All Ends,” and is the result of hundreds of hours of research and production, stemming from an earlier video I produced, titled “The Most Terrifying Video You’ll Ever See.” “The Most Terrifying Video”, posted on the web six months ago, made a novel argument for taking action on global climate change, and has garnered over 4 million views on various websites. Reading the 6000+ comments on that video—most of them critical—allowed me to hone my argument, so that now it is—as far as I’ve been able to tell—undeniable. Repackaged in “How It All Ends,” the argument is backed up by over 6 hours of “expansion pack” videos, anticipating and answering every single objection that I’ve been able to elicit from skeptics. Sounds impossible, yes. But then, I’ve been maniacally thorough.

So I submit it for your consideration. Perhaps after viewing it, you’ll be moved to publicize it. Because what we really need is nothing less than a change in our culture, to prompt large-scale policy changes, in order to reduce the likelihood of catastrophic climate change.

I think that the factors for a wholesale change in culture are in place. And I think the ideas presented in my little video may very well be the pebble that sets off the avalanche.

But then again, we agreed I might be delusional. ☺

Check it out at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_anaVcCXg
or wonderingmind42.com or manpollo.org and judge for yourself. (Those last two websites are not created or managed by me.)

The press so far:
* AM 940 Montreal (hey—it’s got to start somewhere, right?)
* The HuffingtonPost (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-tonello/you-tube-can-make-a-dif_b_...)
* The Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/article/281733)

Coming up:
* A feature article in The Oregonian (Portland)
* A commentary piece by me in The Oregonian (At their request! Cool!)
* A piece in the Christian Science Monitor (the reporter is meeting with me later this week)

Wouldn’t it be cool if this were the Rosa Parks moment? A long shot for sure, but what’s to lose?

I can be contacted at wonderingmind42@gmail.com

Really—isn’t it worth the ten minutes to check out the video that might save the world (I mean—us)? Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
Greg Craven (wonderingmind42)
Corvallis, Oregon

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