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Give Dodd Material For His Filibuster, Part 2 Updated!

UPDATED: We'll leave this post on top of the page for the time being.

FISA Retroactive immunity passes 76-10...Dodd is arguing against a 60 vote requirement needed to pass his amendment by Reid... Boxer gives a nice speech and she voted with Dodd against the bill. Here's the list:

Boxer - D/California, Brown - D/Ohio, Cantwell - D/Washington, Cardin - D/Maryland, Dodd - D/Connecticut, Feingold - D/Wisconsin, Harkin - D/Iowa, Kerry - D/Massachussetts, Menendez - D/New Jersey, Wyden - D/Oregon

UPDATE #2 As for the other Democratic presidential candidates, although they have all released statements that they support Dodd’s efforts, Obama’s and Clinton’s offices have given conflicting information as to whether their respective candidates will come to D.C. Biden is sadly one of the 76 who voted to proceed with the bill. Correction: Biden voted "present". My apology for the confusion.

DiFi introduced two amendments, one with limited immunity to telecoms. Kennedy is speaking now…

Here’s a flow chart that helps makes sense of the procedure.

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We've asked you to come up with some suggestions for things that Senator Dodd could read on the Senate floor in his filibuster of the FISA/telecom immunity after Harry Reid's dirty dealings (and betrayal to his party).

You've all done a great job. Lots of you recommended that he read the Constitution, a document of which I think many in Washington must be reminded.

But now, in this fresh thread, I'm asking you to write a letter to Sen. Dodd. Tell him how you feel about his principled stand and what the erosions of our civil liberties has meant to you, especially with the compliance of Congress. Please keep them profanity-free, so that Senator Dodd can read them on the Senate floor and let's have our voices heard by these elected representatives who have forgotten that it is WE who are in charge and they work for us.

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Going Terrier's picture

Suggestions? You mean besides growing a pair and impeaching this corrupt administration?

Mindfire13's picture

Impeachment is too good for them.

huck dumond's picture

How about the Constitution of the United States?

I'm sure he hasn't read it in a long time, if not ever, and it'd do some good for both he and his colleagues to hear it again too.

DJ Green's picture

He could read all the laws, or as many as needed, pertaining to the NSA, and/or the transcripts of all court cases concerning illegal searches, wiretapping etc. That should do it.

Nicole Belle's picture

huck dumond @ 3:

How about the Constitution of the United States?

I'm sure he hasn't read it in a long time, if not ever, and it'd do some good for both he and his colleagues to hear it again too.

It's been suggested at least 50 times in the previous thread.

What I'm hoping that you'll do is to actually give words of encouragement to Sen. Dodd for actually showing the leadership and principles that the leaders of his party will not.

Don't be snarky, don't be profane...but give a heartfelt note on why you don't feel that the telecom companies should get retroactive immunity. Let him (and the others too cowardly to show this kind of leadership) know that we have his back for representing us and not giving George Bush another blank check.

Bruce M's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

In 1980, I was giving money to the Republicans and G.H.W. Bush, back when his son was still acting "young and irresponsible," as he phrased it. But now I have grown up and I am going to be voting in the Democratic Primary out here in Arizona. I believed strongly in the U.S. Constitution back in 1980, and I believe in it more strongly than ever, now.

What makes the US different from middle-eastern dictatorships is not our security measures, but our reliance upon principles of law and fairness in justice.

The US Bill of Rights became part of our Constitution in this week, in the year 1791. All true Americans accept and revere and support our Constitution and its Amendments. Our leaders and military have sworn oaths to protect and defend them.

The fourth Amendment states:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, pa-
pers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall
not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable
cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describ-
ing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

To be an American is to respect and support this ideal, which clearly means that there should be no warrantless wiretapping.

I don't yet know which Presidential candidate I will be supporting next month. But I know it will be someone who agrees with you about supporting the US Constitution, including the Fourth Amendment.

I trust that the Honorable Majority Leader, Nevada Senator Harry Reid, will also recall that he supports the Constitution and the Fourth Amendment, as we do. Senator Dodd, you have my strongest respect and admiration, and my appreciation for standing up for the true values of all Americans.

Best wishes,
Dr. Bruce Martin
Arizona

Nicole Belle's picture

Thanks, Bruce. Great letter.

Matt's picture

Senator Dodd,

I have to admit that what are you doing is being well received by those who care enough to not stand idly by as their government molests their civil liberties. I want you to know, in a polite manner, that you are not the candidate that I intend to support for President in 2008, but the action you are taking today gives you many points in the honor and respect departments. This shows that you WILL fight for what is right in this nation and that you WANT to make a positive impact on this nation.

While I find your move to be honorable, this doesn't change much in the grand scheme of things. Your ONE POSITIVE action that you are taking is still masked by the many errors that this Congress has made in the past and DOES NOT shed the light of hope that we need to feel comfortable with our government once again.

This is a small step in the right direction, but it's too late. We can't expect real progress from this Congress until 2008. It's not about not having enough Democrats to make a true majority or Republicans stonewalling. It's about the backbone that is missing from the people who should be standing up to this corrupt administration, being the 535 elect, and you're losing. While this one moment is actually a moment of respect in your direction, I know it will be forgotten when this sentence is finished and you will go back to passing more and more legislation that will lower your approval rating further.

I challenge you, prove me wrong. Show me that 2008 will be a positive year for America. Perhaps if Congress moved into the 21st century and read the SOURCED and CITED articles that we read about our government on the internet, maybe they'll keep a job into 2009.

little davey's picture

Senator Dodd,

FISA? Fine. How about doing it legally? Is there anyone that has a problem with that?

It is 3 am as I write this about "civil liberties" and me.

I'm tempted to suggest that you just ask my internet service provider; they already HAVE information on how I feel about my civil liberties.

But even at 3 am I can make an impressive list of the impact to me personally that our so-called security has had. While I still feel able to post this comment on a blog, I can say that my commute to Offutt Air Force Base is longer due to security. Due to security, we are now able to use only ONE computer at a time at work. Our email is now converted to "plain text" when we view it. We have to remember to manually click a button to view any images, maps, graphs, charts, or other actual information that would help in our effort for our customer, "the warfighter". Forget the button; miss out on actual information that may have been in the email.

The big metal "pop up" barrier just inside the base gate accidentally went up and "totaled" an innocent contractor's car last month. He had to visit a chiropractor. So far the Pop-Up barrier has injured one, the terrorists none. I missed a plane flight because I purchased a one-way ticket to take care of a deceased relative; I got "flagged" by the counter agent.

My congressman is helping the Global War On Terror by telling MoveOn.Org not to use any more hurtful puns when referring to the names of military generals. I headed straight for his office and told his staff that he was free to do so, but I didn't think much of it. The congressman next door is running around Iowa on some kind of crusade wondering why every last congressman can't just come out and say that they support Christianity.

On one of the Sunday news shows, the conservative commentator keeps telling Americans falsehoods about the proper handling of secret and government information. While tens of millions of government employees handle secure information every day, evidently the Vice President doesn't have to, and neither does the CIA. But us civil servants had darn-well better do so.

So I now have a lot less time of my own now, less time to PONDER my civil liberties.

FISA? Fine. How about doing it legally? Is there anyone that has a problem with that?

-- Dave Keller --
Civilian, Dept of Defense
Offutt Air Force Base

eastcoasty's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

I'm what used to be an ordinary middle-class person. I come from a line of people who were farmers, small business owners -- and if anyone thinks that makes people rich, it usually doesn't. It might make you loved in your community, for the services you offer, but it doesn't make you rich. Of course, plenty of us have worked various places owned by other people, management, teaching, writing, many different careers.

So we're decent people, creative people, hard-working people -- who used to feel we could get ahead in this country by working hard and following the rules.
One of my aunts who'd lived in Europe for decades told me, 20 years ago, "America is becoming more a country with two classes. The middle class is being wiped out." I had no idea what she , meant.

I do now.

I cannot believe the piles of laws the current administration has ignored, changed, trampled. I am appalled by the (quote) signing statements (unquote) of President Bush, no doubt usually crafted by Richard Cheney and/or David Addington. Those two men who love hiding in the shadows while they turn this country into some version of the nightmares that must inhabit their own brains.

I can't believe the direction this country is going -- or, wait. I can believe it, because I have no choice. I know far too much. I've been spending far too much time reading about politics since the year 2000. And make no mistake about it, I'm far from isolated. There are hundreds of thousands, indeed, there are millions upon millions of citizens of this country who are VERY AWARE OF, and EXTREMELY APPALLED BY, SICKENED BY the increasing lawlessness, the trampling of our constitution, carried out by this Republican administration.

And what is the Democrat-controlled Congress or Senate doing to rein in these lawless thugs currently in power? To return us to a rule of law? With few exceptions, nothing. Nothing!

It would appear that you all in the Senate and Congress have decided that we do not know, and we do not care. Nothing could be further from the truth. It would appear that you have decided that WE DO NOT COUNT -- and while that may indeed be true today, IT SHOULD NOT BE TRUE!

The will of the majority of the American people is to have this country continue to uphold the ideals upon which it was founded, and that should matter. We should go no further down this path of becoming a rogue nation, stomping around the globe attacking nations who have never attacked us, launching "pre-emptive wars".

We should immediately reverse the recent insane tax laws, which now funne welalth upwards from over 90% of our citizens to a tiny percentage of individuals at the top -- who careen along with an apparently insatiable need for tawdry power and wealth.

Political self-service is the name of the day for these people who are incapable of caring for the health of their country as a whole. They are incapable of caring for anything except increasing their ability to rule over others unchecked. Their brand of politics makes a mockery of political service.

Most ironic of all, these power-crazed leaders, too, will lie one day in their graves, and the number of homes they owned, the number of dollars they wrested from those who could ill spare them, will not help warm them then.

The number of people they impoverished, the nation they gutted for temporary gain, these things will be remembered about them. The glory they hope for? That will not be how they are remembered.

Millions of American people are waiting with bated breath for SOMEONE in the Senate, SOMEONE in Congress, to stand up to those currently in power in our country. Billions of people around the world are watching also. Waiting to see the rule of law returned to our country. Wondering how far we will slide towards the abyss.

We ordinary citizens wonder, "How bad will our futures be?" "How bad will the futures of our children be?" "What new restrictions will be placed on our freedoms next?" "Which laws will they break next?"

For heaven's sakes, in this great nation, we now have people DEBATING whether or not we should torture. Who would have believed that 20 years ago? That we could sink so low.

And we wonder if anyone in the Senate or Congress will stand up for us against these barbarians who lead us ever further into the dark. Are they threatening to blackmail you, is that why you are not standing up to them? Threatening something worse than blackmail?

Well, life can be hard, get over it, stand up for us anyway.

And if that isn't it, what on earth is it?

As an ordinary citizen I ask you, WHEN are you going to stand up for us? WHEN will you say the damage has been enough?

You MUST rise now -- not next year when it suits your schedule -- to do what you can to stand up in this one case. Start somewhere. Start here.

Start now.

Thank you for reading this for me, Senator Dodd.

Crystal Rutherford's picture

Dear Senator Dodd:

Thank you so much to standing up for Americans and our Constitution. It appears that the Demoractic leadership has lost their way by allowing retroactive immunity to come to the floor. For us, which I believe to be in a majority, the timidity of some Democrats to allow this administration to continue shredding the rule of law, civil liberties and the foundation of our existence as a country, is reprehensible. I suspect that in the next elections, some "moderate democrats" will be tossed from their seats and replaced by those willing to take a stand for the principles that made this country what it is. For example, there is nothing more Un-American than torture, which this administration has embraced. The cult of personality has replaced the rule of law which has set us on a dangerous path. My suggestion for reading materials is the works of Tom Paine. Shame them with letters from our founding fathers regarding the danger of consolidating power, the separation of Church and State, and others topics that the Federalist Society blithely ignores. I will be watching and cheering you on, Senator Dodd, as I am sure will be many others.

eastcoasty's picture

Senator Dodd might find many of Granny D's speeches to be a good fit for this time and place. Here are a few of them:
http://grannyd.com/speeches.html

When she was 96 she wrote me that she'd stopped buying green bananas.

Likewise anything from the testimony of the whistle-blower who broke open the wire-tapping equipment in place at the hub in CA.

Hazy's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,
So often in the past few years I have seen people ostensibly stand up against the insanity of the executive branch. Every time, when the stakes are real, for whatever reason they crumble. Thus I am cynical. I extend my support for your efforts notwithstanding this.
A C&L Reader

Batocchio's picture

Thank you, Senator Dodd. It's extremely shameful that fighting for rights so essential and central to our nation's founding puts you in the minority. On the other hand, I find your actions extremely inspiring.

The current situation pains me, because there's very little real question of what's right here. Privacy is no small thing. The Constitution is no small thing. Why have other senators lost perspective? Are they just out of touch with the privacy concerns of average citizens? Are they too beholden to the telecom industry? Do they really believe it's impossible to fight crime and terrorism and follow the law at the same time? (It's not.) Have they forgotten the core values of our country, and why we have a Fourth Amendment in the first place?

Why won't Senator Reid forward the Senate Judiciary Committee version of the bill instead? Why not honor the wisdom of his colleagues on this matter? Why honor a Democratic hold? Telecom amnesty is the wrong thing to do, and the politics are bad as well. Won't the Democratic leadership please take a stand?

How can any responsible lawmaker say, "We don't even know what was done, but we're sure it was okay anyway"...? Why not at least find out what was done first? The recent Iran NIE is simply the latest reminder that "just trust us" is not the way to deal with the Bush administration. Abandoning oversight and bypassing investigation into this essential matter is also a dereliction of duty.

Senator Dodd, please never doubt that what you're doing is important, and know that it's very much appreciated. Public polls, the law, morality and basic common sense are all on your side. I hope more of your colleagues join it as well. We'll do our best to make sure that happens. Thank you once again.

(And Bruce, what Nicole said.)

Alessandra's picture

Dear Senator Dodd.

Thanking you in advance for doing what we elected the Democratic Party to do in 2006, that is to say to stand up to the Bush administration and their desire for a unitary executive.

Thank You

Alessandra.

humphs75's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

I want to thank you for your efforts in opposing the FISA/telecom immunity measure that is pending in the Senate. The lasting damage to this nation's civil liberties, which lie at the core of our democracy, will be incalculable in my view if this bill passes and becomes the law of the land.

As an attorney in private practice for 17 years, I have watched with dismay as the Bush Administration has heedlessly and unnecessarily compromised our Fourth Amendment rights to be safe from unreasonable search in the name of national security. While I agree that it is in our national interest to be vigilant against future terrorist attacks, and to take appropriate investigatory measures to detect and prevent those attacks from occurring, I am concerned that the current approach of this Administration and its supporters in Congress to employ measures that effectively amount to quite literally spying on our own citizenry has all too willingly surrendered that which terrorist groups like Al Queda reportedly seek most to undermine -- our liberty.

While to some it may seem a regrettable but necessary step to compromise this country's hard-won Constitutional freedoms in order to protect ourselves against an unseen enemy, the bargain, I fear, is a Faustian one and could lay the groundwork for future administrations to unravel those freedoms altogether. In the event of a future crisis, who is to say that the tools that are now being claimed as necessary in the so-called war against terror could not be used by those in a position of power to gain political advantage or even worse?

The telecommunications immunity measure likewise would do great harm to nation's system of protecting our civil liberties by creating, in effect, a safe harbor for corporate involvement in governmental abuses of power. To place beyond the reach of our civil justice system the conduct of those telecommunications companies who knowingly participated in the disclosure of information about their customers, and over which those customers clearly had a reasonable expectation of privacy, is foolhardy and smacks of collusion to an extent repugnant in any democratic society.

Let us not sacrifice on the alter of fear and suspicion of one another the very foundation of this country's astoundingly successful experiment in self-government. Yes, we must be vigilant against those who would seek to attack us, but we must also be vigilant of protecting our own identity as a people governed by laws, not by men who are prone to the many weaknesses that history has taught us come with unbridled power.

Please continue in your efforts to oppose this legislation.

Respectfully,
Steven Humphreys
New Jersey

Matthew Mixon's picture

Senator Dodd

There have been precious few lawmakers who seem to understand what their job actually is. There have been even fewer who seem to remember that they took an oath to defend and protect the constitution.

I grew up in the last decades of the cold war. I was taught some very simple differences between governments that spelled out quite plainly who the "good guys" were. I was taught that in some countries, the government could listen to your phone calls - even if you have done nothing wrong. That made me grateful that I lived in a country where my privacy was respected, because we were the good guys.
I was taught that in some countries, the government could take you out of your home in the night and simply cause one to "disappear". Lucky for me, I thought, in America we are secure in our homes, and have a judicial process that is intended to protect me, because we were the good guys.
Other, less righteous countries would torture prisoners, forcing them to admit to even imagined crimes, to make the torture stop. Thank God, I thought, I live in America where the rule of law guides and protects us.

Over the last decade I have seen the erosion of all of these things that told me that here in America, we are the good guys. It takes more than insisting we stand for freedom, and the rule of law, we must actually behave in a way that demonstrates this, and we have failed at that task. Since we now are a nation that conducts torture, believes in warrentless spying and limitless lawless detention for those never charged with a crime. How do I now explain to my children, that here in America we are the good guys.

I am shocked and disturbed that the Senate Intelligence Committee would put forth a bill providing amnesty to corporations that willingly broke the law at the governments demand. Do your colleagues not care that the actual function of their job is to to "provide vigilant legislative oversight over the intelligence activities of the United States to assure that such activities are in conformity with the Constitution and laws of the United States." (S.Res. 400, 94th Congress)

Harry Reid should be ashamed of himself. Anonymous holds on bills like the Identity Theft Enforcement and Restitution Act of 2007 are honored. A disgusting hold on a bill to ban torture is honored. The only hold that Sen Reid will not honor is one that actually defends and protects the constitution.

Does no one realize the Democrats hold the slim majority they have now because an overwhelming number of Americans want the congress to stop the destruction of our constitution and rule of law that have served us for so long. Harry Reid has rolled over and accepted every single threat of filibuster that the Republicans have made. Except for the one instance of forcing them to pretend to filibuster for a few hours, the only time Reid forces a Senator to actually filibuster, is when it is now, when that action that actually defends and protects the constitution.

Every Senator here who has thus violated their oath of office should be ashamed. This is every-ones chance to actually do their jobs. Stand up for the rule of law. And thank you, Senator Dodd, for being one of the few member of our government who seems to believe in our system of government.

Matthew Mixon
Washington

nitehawk's picture

War and Peace, Its long and has a message. Hopefully Cheney will leave the building screaming in the middle of it.

Also he could read the transcript of the Nuremberg trials.

Russo's picture

I've been reading about this for a while, and decided that Harry Reid needed a piece of my mind.

"Dear Senator Reid,

Recently, our beloved country was privy to an international convention decrying the need for environmental safeguards. As you know, the Republican administration has spent the greater part of the last 7 years belittling these efforts. As the only industrialized nation that has not ratified the Kyoto treaty, we have shown the world that our nation based on the betterment of society through democratic means was the sole roadblock in these talks. Only at the behest of Papua New Guinea was our country so ashamed of itself that 7 years of stonewalling crumbled like the Berlin Wall years ago. The words that ultimately led to this change? “If you are not willing to lead, then get out of the way.”

Senator Reid, with all due respects, your continued cowardice in facing down threatened filibusters has been one of utter nonsense. Following your current standards, the moment you were challenged running for Senate, you should have dropped out, to ensure that you were not challenged. However, your penchant to cowtow to the minority has lead you to force one of your own highly respected party members to filibuster a bill that does not have popular support. Your reasoning for this is not explained, and your actions are cryptic, leading many to question what your motives are at all.

Sir, I leave you with the statement that the educated ambassador of Papua New Guinea left our delegates. Perhaps my party, and the United States of America, the country who you have sworn to defend, and laws you have sworn to uphold, can benefit from real leadership dedicated to bringing about change in both this travesty in Iraq, and the multitude of travesties done in the name Republican interests.

Mr Reid, if you are not willing to lead, then get out of the way."

raker's picture

Dodd should read Orwell's 1984 from the Senate floor. Expose the template of Bush's vision-thing for destroying the US.

Gayle's picture

Senator Dodd,
Thank you for being among the few with spine. For suggestions on what to read in your filibuster, read our children's letters from Iraq...these are the children who returned in coffins from Iraq...in my case, my only child. These children were betrayed by their Commander in chief who first sent them looking for WMD's and ever after has imbued the entire quagmire with the ever-anaesthesizing word: freedom. If they went to fight for the freedom of the Iraqis...why are our freedoms being restricted?
www.gsfso.org
Respectfully,
A mother who lost everything

NevadaBlue's picture

Nearly 1,300 words into Sunday's New York Times article revealing new details of the National Security Agency's domestic eavesdropping program, the lawyer for an AT&T engineer alleges that "within two weeks of taking office, the Bush administration was planning a comprehensive effort of spying on Americans’ phone usage.”

In a New Jersey federal court case, the engineer claims that AT&T sought to create a phone center that would give the NSA access to "all the global phone and e-mail traffic that ran through" a New Jersey network hub.

The former AT&T employee, who spoke on condition of anonymity to the Times said he took part in several discussions with agency officials about the plan.

"The officials, he said, discussed ways to duplicate the Bedminster system in Maryland so the agency “could listen in” with unfettered access to communications that it believed had intelligence value and store them for later review," Times reporters Eric Lichtblau, James Risen and Scott Shane wrote. "There was no discussion of limiting the monitoring to international communications, he said."

“At some point,” he told the paper, “I started feeling something isn’t right.”

"Two other AT&T employees who worked on the proposal discounted his claims, saying in interviews that the project had simply sought to improve the N.S.A.’s internal communications systems and was never designed to allow the agency access to outside communications."

AT&T's spokesman said they didn't comment on national security matters, as did a spokesman for Qwest, which was also approached but apparently rebuffed the plan. The lawyer for the engineer and others in the New Jersey case says AT&T's internal documents would vindicate his clients.

“What he saw,” Bruce Afran, a New Jersey lawyer representing the plaintiffs, told the Times, “was decisive evidence that within two weeks of taking office, the Bush administration was planning a comprehensive effort of spying on Americans’ phone usage.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/washington/16nsa.html?ei=5065&en=03d7b...

army193's picture

I just fax my letter to Chris Dodd

KayKay's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,
Thank you for taking the lead in this fight to keep me, my family and my future family safe. When our Constitution is treated as irrelevant, our rule of law ignored and our elected officials place politics and greed over country, We the People are no longer safe from tyranny, despotism or autocrat rule.

This is a democratic republic where the job of the President and Congress is to protect our country and all its people, not just the rich or the "connected," all the people. The government providing protection for the telecoms is like the mob providing protection for the people who help further their crimes.

If I could stand next to you and help you filibuster I would, proudly. You, sir, are what this country once believed in, and for the sake of our future what we must believe in again.

Thank you for your bravery, courage and love of this country,

Kryten42's picture

What a great idea Nicole! :D It's a great opportunity to be heard as you said. :) I hope you readers do the smart and sensible thing.

A few people seem to be confusing Sen. Dodd (the good guy) with Sen. Reid (the chickenshit traitor). Ahem. :) I am beginning to suspect there is little difference between Reid and Lieberman and the people who elected Reid were conned.

Oh well.

Good luck with this! And best of luck and God's speed to Sen Dodd! Hope he gets a great night's sleep, he will need it!

Cheers!

And Yet...'s picture

Faxed Senator Dodd my letter just now.

Thank you for standing up for us, Sen. Dodd!

oldgringo's picture

Senator Chris Dodd:
The " UNMENTIONED elephant" in this room is to me the most frightening one of all, and rehashing all the things both wrong and evil perpetrated by this administration would only grow that elephant bigger.
That elephant is the probability of the United States becoming not only a rogue among nations but an ungovernable one which is in ever increasing danger of nation destroying CIVIL WAR!
If the Bush administration is allowed to continue unchecked upon the course they AND THEIR ENABLERS IN CONGRESS and the world of CORPORATE AMERICA have chosen, the downward spiral into chaos that we are now witnessing in the lawlessness being propagated and perpetuated by the "government" in Washington, D.C. must inevitably reach such a pass.
The vast majority of the American people will no much longer tolerate this abomination to continue!
With all due respect for what you are now undertaking, my humble blessing, and best wishes for the best of good luck: THE WORLD NEEDS IT!

Mr. XXXX's picture

Joe Lieberman is gonna announce his support for John McCain as president today in New Hampshire.

Max-1's picture

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I have a few phone books to read. Maybe Dodd can borrow some.
(sorry, never saw part one, lazy.. I guess)

Dear Senator Dodd,

WHEN HAS WARRENTLESS EVER BEEN LEGAL?
WHEN HAS TORTURE EVER BEEN LEGAL?
WHEN HAS FRAUD EVER BEEN LEGAL?

Sincerly,
Spencer Dow

WIDEPART's picture

after the reading the Constitution, reading the complete transcripts of all of Keith Olberman's "special Comments" should be interesting and informative, and after those gems, a reading of select pieces from Jon Stewart's, 'Daily Show' should add information with humor to keep the attention all in attendance, of course he'll need a hand held "bleeper" to mask some of the words used. Then after that, reading the names of all the Republican party office holders that have been arrested or indicted along with the crimes they been accused of would fill the next few hours. Then the names of those wounded and killed in Iraq.

Janet's picture

17 Matthew Mixon

Powerful letter. It actually brought tears to my eyes. I remember those days of feeling secure in our country of laws.
How indeed do I now explain to my children and grandchildren, that here in America we are the good guys?

Dahgrostab'ph-r-i's picture

I sent mine yesterday on the first post. I basically told him that in a nation of laws it is critical that we hold everyone to the same standard and not just turn a blind eye when it's a telecom company that's "just obeying orders", there were certainly some companies who knew better and did not give in to the pressure coming from a corrupt White House, the ones who did give in should be held to account, as well as the criminals in our government who ordered this surveillance.

PHI's picture

The End Of America
Letter of Warning To A Young Patriot
by Naomi Wolf
would be a relevant read for this filibuster Mr. Dodd

Max-1's picture

Mr. XXXX @ 28:

Joe Lieberman is gonna announce his support for John McCain as president today in New Hampshire.

And to think he thought himself good enough for the Dem. V.P. candidate.

"Turncoat Joe" so shall he be known for the various colors he dawns to suit his mood.

I'm personally waiting to know what Congress defines as a High Crime and Misdemenor. Does Pelosi's obstruction of Justice count, too?

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Smgumby's picture

What else can we do?

Call Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and ask them why the hell they are still in the midwest! It is time to get themselves to D.C. and support our constitution!

crazytown's picture

The senate just shot down Dodd's filibuster. Voted for Cloture.

Clearly we have to do this ourselves.

Old Billy's picture

GambitRF @ 339:

People who are dumb enough to think the "We need the immunity clause because the companies did nothing wrong" argument makes sense should not be allowed to hold public office.

I totally agree.

How could we grant immunity to these people when we don't even know what they did?

Mel's picture

Dear Senator Dodd, Dear Senators;

I am glad, I am privileged to add my one voice to the choir of thousands who support this filibuster. I am disheartened that America has come to this that We the People must fight more than 200 years later for what our founding fathers so clearly established for the people. Certain rights and expectations come with your office, dear Senators. You must protect our liberties. You are duty and honor bound to protect our liberties. You must not legislate away accountability for those who tread on our liberties and mock the Constitution and laws that make our nation great.

I note with distressing irony this filibuster corresponds with the sale of the Magna Carta at Sotheby's. This document began to forge a seemingly inherent notion into a grand reality: No man, no woman, no king, no legislator is above the law. The Constitution made this idea a reality for Americans. No company, being so much less than an individual human life, is above the law either. Gentlemen, Gentlewomen, will you sell out and sacrifice the birthright of the American People? Will you? Has patriotism become so jaded in the atmosphere of fear-mongering that loyalty to the 4th Amendment is cast aside?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures remains paramount to the American people. Why would the Senate violate the trust of the American people with a bill that places Telcomm companies above the law? These companies have done nothing that should put them outside the parameters of legal accountability. Are they greater than a single life or a single liberty? Are they greater than the creation of the 4th Amendment? The American standard was sealed more than 200 years ago. It should not, must not, be violated.

We the People, and our children, expect you to uphold the ideas and laws we cherish, not to dismantle them, not to mock or invalidate them. We elect you to uphold our ideas and laws. We elect you to legislate in a manner that preserves the virtue imbued in our Constitution. We expect you to honor the heritage that makes an American. This is your contract with We the People; this is your promise and your covenant made with our votes. You exercise your power at the pleasure of the American people. If you choose to violate our trust and unmake our most sacred traditions, we will nullify our covenant with you. You will lose the power we gave you at the polls.

Here in the year 2007, we are in the throes of a soulful, intellectual, and heartfelt revolution. I say Revolution because revolution implies a victory. We Americans do not trade off freedom for security. Frightened by September 11, 2001, we experienced the temptation of valuing safety more. That is done. We live free or die. That makes us American. That is how we press forward. We live free or we die. We are far too fierce in spirit to live any other way. No man, no woman, no senator, no President or Vice-President fancying himself a king, can make an American live any other way. We know our laws, our traditions, and heritage. We embrace our Constitution. We seek justice if a person or government official or a company acts outside of the law, places himself, itself outside the law.

Senators, honor the people, the tradition of our American justice system, and your office all at once by rejecting a bill that provides immunity to those who may have so completely violated our nation and its ideals.

I write you from one little corner of America. My home in Alabama. My children will come home from school soon, and we'll tell each other what we did this day. I'll tell them I wrote to you and why. Their identities as Americans will be reaffirmed. I hope you will not disappoint us, but know we will be paying attention.

Respectfully,

Melissa King

Liberal AND Proud's picture

The Republican argument for criminal behavior..."the terrorists are coming!! So...give up your rights, and no one gets hurt."

The Constitution is under attack and the MSM is covering...the death of Diana.

You can't MAKE this shit up.

Kathleen Schultz's picture

Senator Dodd,

Thank you for remembering and reminding the Senate what the United States is all about. Since we became a 'Homeland' in 2002, the country of my birth seems to be disappearing a little at a time. As I have written to Sen. Reid more than once, if no crime was committed, no immunity is required. If a crime was committed and immunity is granted, we send a horrible message to the world, and especially to our children. How does one reinforce values of honesty and responsibility when the top levels of business and government refuse to acknowledge their mis-deeds.

Please feel free to read this as part of your filibuster. And give a shout out to Sen. Wyden from an Oregonian.

theWalrus's picture

Bush wants Congress to pass the FISA law because he wants to "protect the American people" but he vows to veto it if Congress deletes the telecom immunity provision.

I cannot think of a more outright brazen display of corruption than this.

neverbeenfooled's picture

My letter to Senator Dodd:

Dear Senator Dodd,

At last! One of our elected Democratic Senators has come forward to pay more than lip service to the assault on our Constitution and civil liberties. There is a point where bi-partisanship and compromise must become secondary to the exercise of good legislation. The SIC version of the FISA bill further erodes the guarantees of civil liberties provided by our Constitution by, in effect, granting amnesty to those large Corporations, who rather than challenging potentially illegal directives, simply rolled aver and went along with the program. While it may appear to be patriotic to acquiesce without question to our government’s demands, and while it may appear to be politically expedient for the Democratic Party not to rock the boat prior to elections by allowing this bill to come to the floor for debate, it can only encourage further assaults and continued deterioration of our Constitutional rights given the appalling precedent it will set. We elected a Democratic majority to Congress in 2006 in order to get this Country back on a progressive course. While there have been some small victories, I for one feel that the Party, and especially its Congressional leadership, has let me down. If the Democratic Party allows this bill to pass I will consider it the ultimate act of political cowardice. May your filibuster provide the incentive needed to open the minds of the majority to the proper course of action. You have earned my admiration and vote.

hope's picture

Gavin @ 361:

Forgive me, i'm a U.K observer, but i just watched Kennedy make a fantastic speech against immunity yet according to comment 315 he voted for it. Am i missing something?

Senator Kennedy thinks FISA needs to be addressed and voted on but wants to vote on the version that doesn't give immunity to the telecoms.

Hawk's picture

Kennedy's never need to bone up on the Constitution, they breath it. He even used woprds I sent him in a letter for his speech against Mukasey.

jon's picture

How about this?

He can read a transcript of the dialogue from Mr. Smith Goes to Washington....

http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/m/mr-smith-goes-to-washington...

Doug's picture

If they let the telecom industry off the hook, then they must also allow any customers of these companies to terminate their contracts with these companies without being charged the early disconnect fee.

Straight Shooter's picture

I am so damn tired of feeling sickened by our erosion of liberties. I just called Reid's office and left a message for him:

"Whatever happened to "Give 'em hell, Harry? Senator Reid, either lead, follow, or get out of the way!"

moondancer's picture

I suggest this: if the founding fathers were able to come to this point in time, they would be in the streets leading a violent revolution against the government that has been absconded by greedy thugs and large corporation pirates. Bush is a fool if he thinks history will give him respite.

CrackpotPress's picture

Actually I think there a quite a few good scripts they could reinact...

The conversation
The Grinch (cartoon version)
All The President's Men

TimV's picture

crazytown @ 357:

The senate just shot down Dodd's filibuster. Voted for Cloture.

Clearly we have to do this ourselves.

Wait? Are you talking about the original 76-10 vote or did the filibuster itself just get shot down? This parliamentary stuff is confusing to me.

mentalproduce's picture

For anyone wondering what is going on here, KargoX @ DailyKos breaks it down fairly well...you can find it here:

hope's picture

TimV @ 370:

crazytown @ 357:

The senate just shot down Dodd's filibuster. Voted for Cloture.

Clearly we have to do this ourselves.

Wait? Are you talking about the original 76-10 vote or did the filibuster itself just get shot down? This parliamentary stuff is confusing to me.

There's a great procedural flowchart at Daily Kos. So far I haven't been able to get the link to work but it's worth checking out.

hope's picture

mentalproduce @ 371:

For anyone wondering what is going on here, KargoX @ DailyKos breaks it down fairly well...you can find it here:

Ooops, I'm slow. Thanks for the link.

pissed off patricia's picture

Senator Wyden just made a hell of a speech. He was privileged to read the documents pertaining to how the administration justified these wiretaps. He said the senators would be amazed at how "flimsy" the legal justification was.

The problem with all these fine speeches is that the entire senate is not there listening to them. They should be as concerned as we all are and make an effort to hear both sides of this argument.

Nick T's picture

Well, sounds like it is too late, but I would have told Senator Dodd to continue to stand firm and know that he is standing alongside the ghosts of Jefferson, Madison, Washington, Franklin - hell, even Adams. It's safe to say not a single framer would have condoned this total lawlessness and corruption. Today, we are no longer a nation of laws. We have become a nation of a ruling class or party who break, bend and then retro-actively readjust the laws to suit their needs - needs, which they can not share with the public to scrutinize for reasons of "national security." Do these people think the framers were careless or stupid? Well either way, they're wrong for they were niether. They ACTIVELY CHOSE and designed a government where liberty and freedom from government invasion trumped EVERYTHING including personal security. Where the government couldn't just BELIEVE they needed to search your home to protect other citizens, but they had to have an actual, articulable reason as to why; where guilty people would get free lawyers and tons of safeguards, because better they go free then the government wield its great power - even in good faith - to put an innocent man in prison.

Were the framers alive today, they would write a new Declaration of Independence listing their complaints and grievances against President Bush and this congress instead of King George, and they would probably start a new revolution, knowing their great design had failed so miserably... knowing that of all the safeguards they put in place to maintain the rule of law, the right number of cowards, charlatans and idiots (all of them corrupt) could still find a way to circumvent everything this country is supposed to stand for.

Anyway, once this abomination becomes official I hope you will all join me in cancelling your verizon or At&T services. Cancellation fees? Well, if the law doesn't apply to you, why should some small-print terms in an adhesion contract apply to me, Verizon? Oh, and while you're on the phone, will you please go start your own country and leave mine alone.

hope's picture

Oh please, not McConnell. They really do believe in torture.

Timewatcher's picture

why is mcconnell bringing up a burmies bill now? wtf is going on?

Liberal AND Proud's picture

I think it's time to rename Washington DC to "Crazytown, DC".

pissed off patricia's picture

The Republicans keep talking about keeping the American people safe from terrorist.
How about keeping our laws and our privacy safe from Republicans?

Liberal AND Proud's picture

C'mon...let's be honest. In a fair debate...the GOP is totally unarmed. There is no gray matter there at all.

They're still spewin' the same slogans from two years ago.

At least the Dem Senators are capable of independent thought.

hope's picture

Liberal AND Proud @ 380:

C'mon...let's be honest. In a fair debate...the GOP is totally unarmed. There is no gray matter there at all.

They're still spewin' the same slogans from two years ago.

At least the Dem Senators are capable of independent thought.

Agreed. Dodd cut through their idiotic analogies and their scare tactics in his first couple of sentences.

Mike Strasser's picture

Dear Senator Dodd
Thank you for standing up for the Constitution.
Sincerely,
Michael Strasser
Ambridge, PA
15003

litmus's picture

Dear Senator Dodd:

It's hard for this American to wrap my brain around what we've become as a nation in a few short years. We can blame Bush, Cheney and their pathetic enablers (e.g. the "how did they ever get elected?" McConnells and Bonds of the world)—and rightfully so—for taking us down this path to ignominy, but we have the Harry Reids, the Dianne Feinsteins and the Joe Liebermans for keeping us there. There was a time when we could count on a percentage of our Congress to ignore right vs. left and instead focus on right vs. wrong. Sadly, it appears that only you have the courage of your convictions and the convictions that align with the Founding Fathers.

I consider myself a citizen activist. I sign petitions, I write my Congressional representatives, I blog about the issues that concern me, and I vote religiously (and I vote to keep religion and matters of state separate from each other). Sadly, I honestly don't know if it matters anymore. When I see someone like you take a principled stand, I am heartened and feel as if we're taking a step forward. But when I see a purported Democrat like Dianne Feinstein (one of my senators) bend over backwards to accommodate every Bush whim, it feels like two steps backward.

I want to believe in my government again. I want to be proud to be an American again. I want to take my country back from corporate interests, from authoritarian-loving citizen sheep who want to cede all of our freedoms in the name of irrational fear, from power-hungry politicians who will sell out this country in a nanosecond to line their own pockets. Perhaps I want something I can't have. And with three young children, that saddens me deeply.

Senator Dodd, thank you. Thank you for the brief, Quixotic effort to stem the tide of American self-destruction. It's been said that all great empires fall. It can't happen without the the complicity of the citizens. But for those of us who have been trying to stay above the rising tide of egregious offenses brought against us in the name of Republican rule (and Democratic acquiescence), I must say that my arms are tired. Yours is but a temporary lifeline. There are too few others with your courage to count on to truly save us.

Do I sound pessimistic? You bet I do. The fact is that I am pessimistic. Look at how few have rallied around you in this critical moment in our history. Why is that? Do the Roves of the world have incriminating evidence on everyone? Or is it merely that courage is an artifact of a bygone era in Washington?

Keep up the good fight, Senator.

Sincerely,

John Parsons
Despondent Patriot

Liberal AND Proud's picture

I think the Democratic leadership should really punish the Republicans.

CANCEL THE CHRISTMAS VACATION!!!

danger's picture

Now that I think of it, he should read all of Lord of the Rings. It's quite a drawn out metaphor but nevertheless great.

Samson-'s picture

"Executives at the two biggest phone companies contributed more than $42,000 in political donations to Senator John D. Rockefeller IV this year while seeking his support for legal immunity for businesses participating in National Security Agency eavesdropping."

it looks like it paid off. rockefeller sells out the country for cheap. cheap democratic whore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/washington/23nsa.html

Liberal AND Proud's picture

No. I have a better idea.

Call an emergency vote in Congress to vote for a resolution affirming the sanctity of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny...no...an emergency resolution to affirm Apple Pie as the national desert!!

Barry Halpern's picture

Is anyone else watching CSPAN 2? If Dodd doesn't tone it down a bit, when he gets to the filibuster he will have already lost his voice.

VegasRage's picture

Nice to see our government hard at work carrying out the will of the people, is honest and not $wayed by corporate intere$t. Just so nice to see our founding fathers role in their graves every day for the last 7 f******* years.

Samson-'s picture

and hillary clinton...

"The telecommunications industry is a case in point. Despite Clinton’s recent championing of Net Neutrality – a policy that would bar companies like Comcast and Verizon from controlling the speed at which various kinds of data is delivered from the Internet – the sector continues to pour more money into her campaign than that of any other political candidate."

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Despite_Claims_of_Focus_on_Senate_1002...

crazytown's picture

Old Billy @ 358:

GambitRF @ 339:

People who are dumb enough to think the "We need the immunity clause because the companies did nothing wrong" argument makes sense should not be allowed to hold public office.

I totally agree.

How could we grant immunity to these people when we don't even know what they did?

Because THEY know what they did.

Avid Reader's picture

Mindfire13 @ 2:

Impeachment is too good for them.

We need to roto rooter the CFR and the other masters of the universe types out. I'm not suggesting violence but perhaps we could have honest elections.

Spicegal's picture

I also think he should read the Constitution over and over, particularly the Bill of Rights. He also might try The Declaration of Independence, as well as something by Thomas Paine and John Locke. I'd go for anything written by our Founders. There's also that great speech by Patrick Henry- you know the one that talks about "give me liberty or give me death". Didn't some of our Founders also have something to say about impeachment? There's tons of stuff out there. It would be a great time for a history lesson and reminder of what this country is supposed to be about.

Avid Reader's picture

Smgumby @ 35:

What else can we do?

Call Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and ask them why the hell they are still in the midwest! It is time to get themselves to D.C. and support our constitution!

Barack is not a bad guy but he is basically backed by the Chicago machine. Patrick Fitzgerald is currently ramping up efforts to root out corruption in the windy city that will lead to Mr. Obama. It will be mostly guilt by association . . . an unfortunate by product of "playing the game".

MamaMia's picture

Every bad newspaper report on this sleasy Bush Administration, all the Rev Haggard articles, All the nasty doings with all the nasty republicans, you get the picture.

I would like to see him tie Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi up, gag them and make them listen while someone with a backbone speaks, maybe those to hot air balloons would learn a lesson, on standing up for the American people.

Spicegal's picture

I also like the idea of reading significant passages from Orwell's 1984. He could also throw in some stuff about torture, you know just some reminders as to why we don't do it and why it doesn't work. Goodness, there's just so much. This fillibustering is such a great way to enlighten and educate. They should look at is a an opportunity. It provides a great platform for airing grievances.

candideinnc's picture

Mr. Dodd: Please read chapter 4 of Thomas Paine's Rights of Man, which is a lesson on Constitutions. "All delegated power is trust." It goes on to say that power which is not delegated is usurpation. If that isn't apropos, I don't know what is.

TimeForNewLeadership's picture

Dear Senators,
I was at a good friends house last night and he showed me an article titled: Magna Carta Copy may auction for over million dollars. I had heard of the Magna Carta but did not really know what it is so I read the article with interest. Turns out that the Magna Carta was used among other writings by our Founding Fathers to form the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Magna Carta was originally written in the early 1200s in England. The final copy was written over 85 years later. It was written by Englishmen who were fed up with the tyranny of the English Kings, in particular, starting with King John and finishing with his grandson King Edward I. The Magna Carta had many valuable ideas like the right to face one's accusser, the right to a trial by ones pears, no taxation without representation, among others. The lowest grade of English nobility, the barons, made it happen. The barons insisted on the Magna Carta and the final version has the stamp of King Edward I on it. The barons had all got together and said, "I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore!" It must be that despite the Magna Carta the upper royalty did not ultimately relent in their oppressive ways because by the 1600's many English were heading to America to get away from the English government. And when the English government started to oppress these people with the same vigor here in the US that they had back in England, well, we had a revolution and threw the English out on their asses! And we wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, still using the Magna Carta as a basis since it had so many good ideas in it. My friend was particularly interested in this because his great grandfather 8 generations old owned a factory that made guns to fight the British in the Revolutionary War and again in the war of 1812. Now, here we are over 200 years later and we have forgotten!! We have forgotten what our families fought so hard for those many years ago. Fought and died for! They had been fighting the oppressive royalty for 400 years, since the 1st Magna Carta, even left England and come here to find freedom. Over 100 years later they fought the Revolutionary War. Now, here we are 200 years later and we are still fighting for freedom. Here in our own country we must again fight for our Freedom from Tyrrany! We cannot ignore the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta! We must remember what it means to be an American! It may have been 200 years since we fought the British but it has only been 60 since we fought the Nazis. Please, let us not slip down any further the slippery slope toward tyrrany. Stand up! Do your duty to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America like the Oath says! This is your primary job and you are failing if you do not allow for the punishment of people and entities who allow the Constitution to be ignored. This is a dangerous precident to protect those who fail to protect the Constitution. Those who uphold the Constitution should be lauded, those that do not should be subject to legal sanction. Teach them a lesson! Remind them what it means to be an American.

Jeffrey Davis's picture

Madama Bovary -- to highlight the unfaithfulness of his fellow senators.

Avid Reader's picture

Check out my user link . . . there is an interesting interview with a guy who knows alot about the council on foreign relations.

TimeForNewLeadership's picture

Senator Dodd, thank you for upholding the Constitiution. You have not forgotten. Am I correct to say that your father looked into the eyes of many of the greatest Nazi war crime perpetrators as a main prosecutor at Nuremburg Germany after WWII? He knew how high the cost of tyrrany could be and it seems that you do as well. I hope that you can persuade your colleagues to also perform their primary duty to uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, our main protections against tyranny. Please, do not allow the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to erode any further! Turn back the Tyrants!

hauksdottir's picture

Senator Dodd,

In addition to heartfelt thanks from one American to another, may I say that I'm glad that you will stand by your word!

When you need some shorter works to break cadence and keep interest alive, I suggest some poetry. Words tend to stick in memory when they have meter or alliteration as supports, and these are powerful words, applying fully to our government today. Here are snippets, and links to the full poems for you.

Time will not treat this era well. To be destroyed from without is disgrace enough, but for a government to crumple-up from fear and cowardice and destroy the country it governs? To secretly spy on its own people? To foster fear in order to gather absolute power? And then to deny even a hope of justice by pardoning criminals and extending immunity to those who profit from crime?

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Auden's muse was the muse of history, so he'd be a good starting place. He was watched and interrogated as a possible spy, merely through association with friends, but nothing was ever proved except that he hated and feared the trappings of a police state and what sort of people, no longer human, could survive under the deadening of tyranny.

THE SHIELD OF ACHILLES
W.H.Auden

A plain without a feature, bare and brown,
No blade of grass, no sign of neighborhood,
Nothing to eat and nowhere to sit down,
Yet, congregated on its blankness, stood
An unintelligible multitude,
A million eyes, a million boots in line,
Without expression, waiting for a sign.

Out of the air a voice without a face
Proved by statistics that some cause was just
In tones as dry and level as the place:
No one was cheered and nothing was discussed;
Column by column in a cloud of dust
They marched away enduring a belief
Whose logic brought them, somewhere else, to grief.

...
What their foes like to do was done, their shame
Was all the worst could wish; they lost their pride
And died as men before their bodies died.

http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/99/jrieffel/poetry/auden/achilles.html
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Some people forget that before the stork, there was a log.... Aesop would have known that "codex" (book) was derived from "caudex" (log), and this modern poet might also have considered massive legal codes as authoritarian as a dictatorship.

THE FROGS WHO WANTED A KING
Joseph Lauren

The frogs were living happy as could be
In a wet marsh to which they all were suited;
From every sort of trouble they were free,
And all night long they croaked, and honked, and hooted.
But one fine day a bull-frog said, “The thing
We never had and must have is a king!”

So all the frogs immediately prayed;
“Great Jove,” they chorused from their swampy border,
“Send us a king and he will be obeyed,
A king to bring a rule of Law and Order.”
Jove heard and chuckled. That night in the bog
There fell a long and most impressive Log.
...

http://holyjoe.org/poetry/lauren.htm
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Piet Hein invented a pithy form called Grooks while his native Denmark was under Nazi occupation. Insight doesn't have to be long-winded. Here are two:

MAJORITY RULE
Piet Hein

His party was the Brotherhood of Brothers,
and there were more of them than of the others.
That is, they constituted that minority
which formed the greater part of the majority.
Within the party, he was of the faction
that was supported by the greater fraction.
And in each group, within each group, he sought
the group that could command the most support.
The final group had finally elected
a triumvirate whom they all respected.
Now, of these three, two had final word,
because the two could overrule the third.
One of these two was relatively weak,
so one alone stood at the final peak.
He was: THE GREATER NUMBER of the pair
which formed the most part of the three that were
elected by the most of those whose boast
it was to represent the most of the most
of most of most of the entire state --
or of the most of it at any rate.
He never gave himself a moment's slumber
but sought the welfare of the greater number.
And all people, everywhere they went,
knew to their cost exactly what it meant
to be dictated to by the majority.
But that meant nothing, -- they were the minority.

DEFENCE WANTED

In International
Consequences
the players must reckon
to reap what they've sown.
We have a defence
against other defences,
but what's to defend us
against our own?

http://www.chat.carleton.ca/~tcstewar/grooks/grooks.html
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THE HAND THAT SIGNED THE PAPER
by Dylan Thomas

The hand that signed the paper felled a city;
Five sovereign fingers taxed the breath,
Doubled the globe of dead and halved a country;
These five kings did a king to death.

The mighty hand leads to a sloping shoulder,
The finger joints are cramped with chalk;
A goose’s quill has put an end to murder
That put an end to talk.

The hand that signed the treaty bred a fever,
And famine grew, and locusts came;
Great is the hand that holds dominion over
Man by a scribbled name.

The five kings count the dead but do not soften
The crusted wound nor stroke the brow;
A hand rules pity as a hand rules heaven;
Hands have no tears to flow.

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/poem.html?id=178635
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TimeForNewLeadership @ 45:

Senator Dodd, thank you for upholding the Constitiution. You have not forgotten. Am I correct to say that your father looked into the eyes of many of the greatest Nazi war crime perpetrators as a main prosecutor at Nuremburg Germany after WWII? He knew how high the cost of tyrrany could be and it seems that you do as well. I hope that you can persuade your colleagues to also perform their primary duty to uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, our main protections against tyranny. Please, do not allow the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to erode any further! Turn back the Tyrants!

If you're not familiar with the Bush family history, google Prescott Bush and you'll see that he and Alan Dulles profitted from the rise of Adolph Hitler and that they were even behind an attempted over-throw of FDR, a subject covered by the BBC - google that . . . there are documentaries and books written and nary a word spoken in our press.

oldtree's picture

what does Senator Dodd need from us? let's offer the kind of help he requires to do this. That may mean forcing other senators to filibuster or we will have begun the institutionalized spying on every aspect of our lives.
do you want this as a result of a deal between cheney and oil companies and countries? gotta keep us third world little shits down or they can't work their plan to move the world bank to the UAE.

what a disgusting thing seeing the senators vote to help treason. I will never trust one that voted for it again. They have voted their hatred of our country and directly violated the oath of office. what more do you need?

thanks to those of you senators that did vote to protect the people. All 10 of you.

hope's picture

Go, Dodd! And I love the way he got in "you need to be here" for this. Clinton, Obama, Biden? You gonna get there for this?

Liberal AND Proud's picture

oldtree @ 392:

what does Senator Dodd need from us? let's offer the kind of help he requires to do this. That may mean forcing other senators to filibuster or we will have begun the institutionalized spying on every aspect of our lives.
do you want this as a result of a deal between cheney and oil companies and countries? gotta keep us third world little shits down or they can't work their plan to move the world bank to the UAE.

what a disgusting thing seeing the senators vote to help treason. I will never trust one that voted for it again. They have voted their hatred of our country and directly violated the oath of office. what more do you need?

thanks to those of you senators that did vote to protect the people. All 10 of you.

Start calling ALL the Senators offices. GOP and DEM. ALL OF THEM. While this is happening. Let them know the country is watching...and GIVES A SHIT.

Donald's picture

Let me see. Two bills from the two different committees. Judiciary bill favored by the Democrats and the intelligence bill favored by and prepared with Dick Cheney. And what bill does the "Democratic" Senate Majority leader put up for the vote. The Democratic favored bill, no the bill favored by the facists running our country. What the fuck is wrong with this picture. If we don't know by now the Corporations are running America, this is as clearer example as we will ever get. Money flowed into the coffers of Democrats, and magically Reid and Rockefeller see the wisdom in giving away more or our civil liberties and rights. We are so screwed!!!

Samson-'s picture

Telephone Utilities:
Top 20 Recipients

1 McCain, John (R) $176,800

2 Clinton, Hillary (D) $106,300

3 Obama, Barack (D) $87,236

4 Emanuel, Rahm (D-IL) $47,450

5 Rockefeller, Jay (D-WV) $44,500

6 Giuliani, Rudolph W (R) $38,150

7 Pryor, Mark (D-AR) $25,450

8 Romney, Mitt (R) $25,200

9 Terry, Lee (R-NE) $24,500

10 Stevens, Ted (R-AK) $23,900

11 Pickering, Charles "Chip" Jr (R-MS) $22,500

12 Thompson, Fred (R) $21,950

13 Baucus, Max (D-MT) $21,000

14 Durbin, Dick (D-IL) $20,350

15 Edwards, John (D) $18,761

16 McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) $16,250

16 Boehner, John (R-OH) $16,250

16 Rangel, Charles B (D-NY) $16,250

19 Dingell, John D (D-MI) $16,000

20 Paul, Ron (R) $15,102

http://opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?Ind=B08&Cycle=2008&recipdet...

Liberal AND Proud's picture

There goes Sen. Hatch...calling anyone that CARES about the country...that CARES about open government...THAT CARES about the Constitution...crazies and conspiracy theorists.

Samson-'s picture

Samson- @ 396:

Telephone Utilities:
Top 20 Recipients

1 McCain, John (R) $176,800

2 Clinton, Hillary (D) $106,300

3 Obama, Barack (D) $87,236

4 Emanuel, Rahm (D-IL) $47,450

5 Rockefeller, Jay (D-WV) $44,500

6 Giuliani, Rudolph W (R) $38,150

7 Pryor, Mark (D-AR) $25,450

8 Romney, Mitt (R) $25,200

9 Terry, Lee (R-NE) $24,500

10 Stevens, Ted (R-AK) $23,900

11 Pickering, Charles "Chip" Jr (R-MS) $22,500

12 Thompson, Fred (R) $21,950

13 Baucus, Max (D-MT) $21,000

14 Durbin, Dick (D-IL) $20,350

15 Edwards, John (D) $18,761

16 McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) $16,250

16 Boehner, John (R-OH) $16,250

16 Rangel, Charles B (D-NY) $16,250

19 Dingell, John D (D-MI) $16,000

20 Paul, Ron (R) $15,102

http://opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?Ind=B08&Cycle=2008&recipdetail=A&Mem=N&sortorder=U

oops, i forgot to add that those stats are for the 2008 election cycle...

get corporate/industry money out COMPLETELY of government, or our dying democracy is unsalvageable. overturn santa clara county. stop the govt-corporate revolving door.

CalGeorge's picture

Orrin Hatch is advocating lawbreaking behavior.

Thanks, Orrin. That makes YOU irrational, not the people whose rights were violated by the telecoms.

Mike Meyer's picture

[Off topic]

bkwrd_dog's picture

To CNN this story is not even a link on main page as far as I can tell.

You could mention to CNN that it's new you'd like covered. I did.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?35

Hatch thinks way more of himself than anyone else does. When he opens his mouth with his Mr Superior attitude, you know some bush butt kissing is going to begin.

anney's picture

Hatch just referred to Americans who don't want to be illegally spied on as "fringe political groups".

Spencer's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

I am embarrassed for my country and embarrassed for you, that you have to filibuster to prevent the inclusion of retroactive telecom immunity for carriers who knowingly broke the law in the FISA Bill.

Please continue to stand strong until all of us can vote against the politicians who want to reward criminals who co-conspired with a criminal administration to violate FISA restrictions. If there are no consequences for illegal actions, we are headed for the end.

Thanks,

Spencer

moondancer's picture

Orrin Hatch is such an a**hole. He's speaking for the heroic,patriotic phone companies. The poor little companies are defenseless. They need protection, citizens can f*ck themselves. He says STOP appeasing fringe political groups, thats you nad me.

We desperately need a new thread just for commenting on what's happening on the Senate floor. This one is getting so long.

Janet's picture

If the troops are out there fighting for our freedoms, they'd better get home quick because the fight is here.

blueeyedpupil's picture

Margaret Vathis @ 179:

Following is a small quote from the wonderful play and movie "A Man For All Seasons":

More: And go he should, if he was the Devil himself, until he broke the law!

Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law!

More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you - where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast - man's laws, not God's - and if you cut them down - and you're just the man to do it - d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.

This is an extremely important issue: the granting or immunity provisions to the telecom companies retroactively for surveillance of communications of US citizens. We must not surrender even more of our civil liberties. We need to follow the constitution, the bill of rights and the rule of law. So much has been lost through the Bush administration. We must begin to put a stop to this.
Margaret Vathis

this quote was put up earlier by a friend of mine. Im watching Senator Dodd and at 330 est he used this quote. I want to congratulate Margaret for getting to Senator Dodd. This is how American Should Work.

It would be great if someone would post a video of things that Dodd uses from the blogs. My friend is going to be so excited when she finds out.

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Janet @ 406:

If the troops are out there fighting for our freedoms, they'd better get home quick because the fight is here.

AMEN! We've lost far more of our freedoms while our troops have been sent to Iraq to "defend" them.

moondancer's picture

Hatch is now showing a chart that corporations are citizens just like you and me. Lie. Their citizenship is special, they have a thousand times the representation and none of the responsiblity.

hope's picture

moondancer @ 404:

Orrin Hatch is such an a**hole. He's speaking for the heroic,patriotic phone companies. The poor little companies are defenseless. They need protection, citizens can f*ck themselves. He says STOP appeasing fringe political groups, thats you nad me.

Why doesn't he just cut to the chase and say, "citizens are stupid, we are bought, so nyaa, nyaa, nyaa." His condescending rhetoric is essentially that.

Cantor de Mambo's picture

I'd reluctantly agree to immunity from civil actions if and only if everyone responsible for violating the privacy of US citizens serves time in jail.

the libertine's picture

Hey,Obama you can't be a pimp and a prostitute to.

budda's picture

I don't watch C-Span that often, but this debate has been fascinating. It's as if all we got in the senate is Dodd and Teddy at this point. So many so-called "dems" fighting for the phone companies. This has been one of the saddest days I have ever seen in politics. Reid completely sold us right down the river. All the hope we had over a democratic senate is dead now. Pelosi, in the house, and Reid, in the senate - good riddances. I hope someone either challenges there authority soon, they step down or the democrats loose in the next election. Damn it, look at what is happening. You've got Dodd forced to filibuster against THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP!

selma goldberg's picture

Thank you Senator Dodd and thanks too to my own Senator Cardin for supporting your filibuster. It is tragic the entire Democratic party is failing to get on board. I hope so that Senator Reid is soon relieved of his post.

hope's picture

Cantor de Mambo @ 411:

I'd reluctantly agree to immunity from civil actions if and only if everyone responsible for violating the privacy of US citizens serves time in jail.

Paris Hilton time or significant time?

dmg's picture

Senator Dodd,
I wrote earlier to praise you and the other senators who know how important this time is, this vote is.
I add here a quote from Thomas Jefferson that eerily applies, part of a letter Jefferson sent in 1798 after the passage of the
Sedition Act:

"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over,
their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight,
restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the
meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of
a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt......If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."

I'll stand with you and others who hope to defend the Constitution and this nation under it.

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Is anyone else having this problem. For some reason the comments page doesn't remember my info like name, email, and website. I have to type these in each time I comment. Is this happening to anyone else. I didn't clean out my cookies or do anything today to my computer.

hope's picture

pissed off patricia @ 417:

Is anyone else having this problem. For some reason the comments page doesn't remember my info like name, email, and website. I have to type these in each time I comment. Is this happening to anyone else. I didn't clean out my cookies or do anything today to my computer.

Mikulski has been such a disappointment.

Yes--just happened to me a couple of minutes ago.

candideinnc's picture

There is also Animal Farm, which has plenty of illustrations on how language can be made meaningless by politicians. When the law of the land is perverted the way this FISA law has been by this administration, language loses its utility.

"Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"--perhaps a commentary on the utlities' being above the law?

Ron England's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

Read from the book, "The Words of Abraham Lincoln" Edited by Martin Lubin would be a great educational tool to very Senators who do not support you or him.

The public would be better informed and would actually learn what truth great leaders are like.

You can have the questioners read several of them and then have you answer their question about the passages. This could give you twenty minute breaks you need.

It is funny that Arbaham Lincoln and the Republicans of that era would now be the real Democrats and the Democrats of that period would now be GOPers.

Thanks,
Ron England

Michael Rector's picture

Thank you Senator Dodd!!!
I am an expat living in Japan. I would like my beautiful country to still be a democracy when I return. Please keep fighting for our democracy! If all of Congress had your courage America would be in much better shape. Maybe you can read transcripts of Japanese Prime Minister Tojo's war crimes trial. Tojo's crimes and his arguments in his defense might sound familiar.

Avid Reader's picture

candideinnc @ 48:

There is also Animal Farm, which has plenty of illustrations on how language can be made meaningless by politicians. When the law of the land is perverted the way this FISA law has been by this administration, language loses its utility.

"Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"--perhaps a commentary on the utlities' being above the law?

Once the false abstractions become the excepted meanings of words and ideas then you are able to detach people from history and lead them down well worn paths of disaster.

raker's picture

After reading Orwell, Dodd should read The Patriot Act aloud. It would be the first time most people had heard a word of it - including congress. Then Dodd should spend the rest of the evening comparing and contrasting the two.

tweakerbell's picture

A series of short works would be good to read to his colleagues:

Sen Dodd should read "Two cheers for Democracy" by EM Forster to the Senate.

Sen Dodd should read "War Is a Racket" by Smedley Butler to the Senate.

Senator Dodd should read a translation of the Enabling Act passed by the Reichstag in 1934.

Senator Dodd should read "Common Sense" by Thomas Paine to the Senate.

If read at a pace the Senate can understand, that should keep Sen Dodd busy for an afternoon...

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

He should read "A People's History of the United States, 1492-Present" by Prof. Howard Zinn.

He might learn something, the others might learn something, and hopefully it would go into the Federal Register or official record.

After that, maybe "Mastering the Art of French (Freedom?) Cooking" by Julia Child.

don't hate me's picture

I throw out this challenge to the Hillary and Barack supporters.

Get on the phone and demand that they support Chris Dodd’s Filibuster of the despicable FISA legislation.

The vote starts TODAY. Simply making statements against the legislation won't do. Nor will voting NO on it. The bill must be stopped.

Hillary and Barack supporters I challenge you to demand REAL LEADERSHIP from your candidates. DEMAND they support Chris Dodd in his filibuster. Nothing less is acceptable.

I don’t support either of these candidates presently. And neither do millions of us independents/lefties. Convince us they are true leaders. Call your candidate and demand they join the filibuster.

The candidate who shows real leadership may just win the support of millions of us who see no reason to vote for either. It could be the differencemaker in who wins the nomination.

The 4th amendment may die. I won’t vote for any candidate who doesn’t filibuster the FISA bill. I know many others feel the same way.

freejack's picture

Senator Dodd,

Amnesty is the institutionalized version of Forgiveness.

Forgiveness is only possible when the individual seeking that forgiveness clearly identifies the particular offenses which needs to be forgiven.

This has not been done by those seeking this amnesty.

The individual seeking Forgiveness must also acknowledge the specific hurt and pain their transgressions have caused.

This has been studiously avoided by the Telcoms seeking amnesty.

The individual seeking Forgiveness must make an apology and make restitution when possible.

None has been forthcoming from the amnesty seekers.

No. What the Telcoms seek is not forgiveness but the legal equivalents of risk management and risk minimization. Their concern is for their legal and financial liability.

In league with Administration official, these corporations have trampled the Rule of Law and the civil rights of an unknown mass of American citizens.

For the Senate to grant these companies immunity without informing the American citizenry of the specific wrongdoing which has been committed against the public will make the Senate complicit in their wrongdoing and contempt for the American electorate.

"Wrongs are often forgiven, but contempt never is. Our pride remembers it forever." --Lord Chesterfield

The people of the United States will not soon forget the contempt this measure, S. 2248 shows for their Constitutional civil rights.

Flash's picture

Senator Dodd,

This country was founded by men who did not stand by and passively accept that their liberties were easily to be disregarded. Thomas Jefferson referred to them as self evident and unalienable rights. To allow a private company or anyone in MY government to listen in on ALL my calls or communications is beyond disregarding of my liberties.

I was raised in a house where the Democratic ticket was the only real option. My grandfather helped start a labor union in his trade for our county. Voting for a Democrat was the only logical choice, because we stood for justice and looking out for the workers of this country. But I have given up on my party. I do not fell represented by the Democratic Party. I do feel represented by you though Mr Dodd and I ask that you continue your fine work. I do see that anyone who pays enough money will get represented though.

This situation where the telecommunication companies and my government have taken actions to toss aside my liberties is no different. I don't want to make them a scape goat. I want to simply make them accountable and held to standards that are spelled out our laws, as well as what is spelled out in our hearts. In our hearts, we are saying that this is wrong. These are MY liberties, this is my life, these are my phone calls to people who are close to me, and they are not trivial, and this is should be self evident.

Brian Verhalen

Smitty's picture

A list of 35 Questions that must be asked about the Iraq War! This is an excellent opportunity to ask the questions that must be answered!

don't hate me's picture

Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are hollow empty shells. They are cowards. They won’t be joining Senator Chris Dodd in his filibuster of the monstrous FISA bill. The people who plan on voting for Hillary and Barack find this fact acceptable. Its probably because they’re cowards too. They’re afraid of making a demand from them. Because they know Hillary and Barack would let them down. Hillary and Barack are too politcally calculating to ever take a real stand.

Damnit, we're under attack from a domestic enemy! Why the hell aren't Hillary and Barack joining Chris Dodd in his Filibuster? Its okay to Hillary and Barack to let the 4th amendment die? And they want MY vote? You gotta be kidding.

If the Hillary and Barack supporters take offense at this statement all they must do is call them. Demand they stand shoulder to shoulder with Chris Dodd and join the filibuster. Tell them to fight, dammit, for the 4th amendment! But I know they won’t call. Because then they’d have to deal with reality. That Hillary and Barack are all talk and no action.

Upset? Prove me wrong. Tell Hillary and Barack to join the Filibuster!
1-800-828-0498
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Christopher L's picture

Our representatives do not exist in a vacuum. They are born by loving parents into a happy family and raised through many years of school into adulthood. They find love, friendship, and overcome adversity. And through decades of hard work, they find themselves doing what they love most: helping to represent their fellow man.

This is how government should work. A collection of the best and brightest in our nation working for the best interests of the common man because their hearts and their minds compel them to. I must ask you; how does spying on the citizenry of the United States, a nation whose founding principle is a government that trusts in doing the will of its people, help the people? How is spying on everyone in line with the fundamental principle of "innocent until proven guilty"? Since when did the government decide its citizens are an untrustworthy liability instead of the greatest asset this nation has to offer?

One may argue that this infrastructure only actively spies on questionable content. But one must consider that this infrastructure is created and maintained by men who may be of questionable moral stature. What is the security analyst wants to see what his ex-girlfriend Jane Smith is saying? Is she talking about him? What about her family? Surely it can't hurt to see if she's talking about him, right? Wrong. I highly recommend the film "The Lives of Others", a film about an East-German intelligence officer who decides to intervene and the irreparable damage it causes.

Telecoms want immunity for a simple reason; THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID WAS WRONG AND THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. The idea that a crime can be committed knowingly against an entire nation and the government will make sure that the criminal is protected from being held to account by the victim goes against every sense of fair play and justice anyone can have. How did this happen? How can a 7-year reign of an imperial president who believes himself to be above all laws, above all checks and balances, and above the people who (unfortunately) elected him into office, how can this tinpot president and those who mindlessly follow him due to either blind admiration or fear allow this to occur? They don't have to. That is why the democratic party was elected in such sweeping numbers in 2006. It wasn't to continue giving the administration whatever it asks for. It wasn't to continue the downward spiral of cronyism and big business cowtowing. It was TO GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. We want out of this war of imperialism where our soldiers and innocents are dying in a war that is accomplishing nothing. We want accountability for the actions of traitors in this government who feel loyalty trumps responsibility to the public. We want freedom from the noose of corporate control. We want to stop the snowball poisoning of this planet before it is too late. But perhaps most fundamentally, we want our government to listen to us.

So hear this:

A vote for telcom immunity is a vote against the people, and when re-election time comes around, WE WILL REMEMBER YOUR BETRAYAL.

Sincerely,

Christopher L
Alpharetta, GA

Lindy's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

I live in New Orleans, except that I don't right now, though half of my family is there, trying to salvage our life and our property. We are people on the edge. We own property we can't sell, but if we don't either sell it or fix it, we go under. Two years and three months after the levees breeched, we are still struggling with a bad environment and a ruined infrastructure, the repair of which was given to no-bid contractors to fix. They haven't fixed it, despite the millions and millions of dollars they were paid to do just that. We could have dealt with the house if the infrastructure was fixed. Our homeowner's insurance, which paid out for damages, took nearly a year to send us a payment and it was not enough. Our homeowner's insurance premiums went from $1200 a year to (this year) nearly $5000. Utilities have skyrocketed. Groceries have skyrocketed, and you don't get nearly as much food for the money you have to pay out.

From my husband:
I’m trying to finish this narrative, but I get so depressed and feel like no one is going to care enough to listen anyway, like the “Christian” volunteer who once asked how I was doing and not long into my story, interrupted and told me to quit whining, or like the police officers from the second district precinct (the one I gave all those supplies to) who jumped on me and threw me on the ground, cuffed and arrested me for arguing with the garbage disposal workers who wouldn’t pick up three week-old stinky trash in front of my house, and then did the same to my 15 year old son for yelling from the sidewalk, “You’re hurting my dad!” Or like SBA, who turned down my DISASTER loan application because, right after the storm, I didn’t have any income. Like Louisiana Unemployment, who still hasn’t paid my wife a dime for the time she was out of work because of Katrina and its aftermath. Like FEMA, who gave me a formaldehyde-ridden trailer (my wife is chemically sensitive) to keep my family in because my house was not livable and then told ROAD HOME that there was no structural damage to my house. Like ROAD HOME, who sent an inspector to look at my house and then turned my application down because FEMA told them there was no structural damage (from the water standing so long, the ground under the foundation softened and the brick foundation gave way. The pilings can’t hold the weight, so my house is sinking-mostly on one side since the other side has a deeper foundation to accommodate a furnace basement). And yes, I didn’t have enough flood insurance to cover all this, but even the mortgage company was comfortable with what I had because the area my house is in had never flooded. Then again, this flood was not a natural disaster. It was a man-made disaster, and those who caused it won’t pay for the damages. Oh yes, and we can’t forget the idiots who crashed our economy and our mortgage companies by raising interest rates too high too fast in a poor attempt to control inflation. What did you expect while half the south was trying to rebuild? Any intelligent person knows a quick fix does more harm than good in the long term.

To those of you who read this and turn away, shaking your heads and mumbling, “That’s too bad,” I ask: When you see someone injured and lying in the street, don’t you at least make a phone call to get them some help?

“What if God was One of Us?”

Many people do not like that song. Yes, that’s a scary thought, but God doesn’t have to be one of us. “As you do unto the least of these my brethren, so you do unto me.” To those of you I have helped in the past, like the second district precinct, church donations, charity, political campaigns: don’t expect any more. I not only don’t have it to give, I also no longer have any way to borrow it and pay it back. To those of you who might think that this doesn’t sound all that bad, what you’ve read in five minutes isn’t even the tip of the iceberg. What has happened in the past two years and three months would take a book. With all I’ve been through in my life, I’ve never faced foreclosure or gone bankrupt, but now I am looking at both of those possibilities. I can hardly afford the co-pay on my wife’s medical card, let alone the cost of her insurance, which I refuse to give up until I can no longer beg or borrow the payments and I’m ground so far into the dirt I can no longer breathe. And all of this is because people refused to do their jobs right, starting with the Army Corps of Engineers. Those levees were supposedly built to withstand a category 3 hurricane. Katrina was only a category 1 when it hit us. And it’s all been downhill from there.

From me: This is one small area in which the policies of this administration is hurting Americans. And now they want to spy on us. I submit that they want to keep us from exercising our constitutional right of dissent. They want to quell us into standing by while they loot our treasury and our treasure, and how better to do that than if they know how we feel and keep us from speaking out? Further, all this information flows through the hands of private contractors. These people seems to have no qualms about stealing other people's property. It's like giving a burgler your schedule, so they know the best time to rob your house. I say NO! NO immunity for corporations who have, in house, some of the brightest legal minds in the world to tell them they were breaking the laws of the land.

I call on the Senate to stop this atrocity and to support Senator Dodd in this filibuster.

Thank you for what you are doing today, sir, and may God grant you strength and support.

don't hate me's picture

This from Glenn Greenwald..

UPDATE: Chris Dodd is leaving the campaign trail in Iowa to travel to Washington tomorrow to lead an old-fashioned filibuster on the Senate floor against the telecom amnesty bill, an action necessitated by Harry Reid's reprehensible refusal to honor his "hold" and also by Reid's conniving to maximize the prospects that the Senate bill will contain both amnesty and vast new warrantless surveillance powers. Two other Senators at least -- Feingold and Kennedy -- have committed to being on the floor to enable Dodd to take periodic breaks by asking questions.

Despite issuing prior statements claiming they would support Dodd's filibuster, none of the other presidential candidates in the Senate -- Clinton, Obama or Biden -- have indicated that they will do so tomorrow.

** So there you have it. Hillary and Barack are WORTHLESS. Its perfectly fine to them to let the 4th amendment die. They both want the government to spy on you FOREVER without a warrant. This should immediately disqualify both of them for running for President.

There were over 500 comments to this thread yesterday. I challenged Hillary and Barack supporters to DEMAND their candidate join the filibuster. Not one single person responded. I want to know how they can find this even remotely acceptable?

Kathleen's picture

Senator Dodd, first I want to say thank you from the bottom top and middle of my heart mind and soul. I am a 55 year old soccer momdeeply concerned citizen. This Bush administration nightmare began for me when I awoke the morning after the 2000 election to the song "The Yellow Rose of Texas" being played on NPR at 5a.m. I thought I must be having a bad dream ,I was ,and this bad dream has never ceased. From the 2000 Supreme Court's Judicial coup that selected our President to a secret energy policy, tax breaks for the wealthy, 9/11 under the Bush administrations watch, the buildup to an unnecessary and immoral war based on false intelligence, hundreds of thousands of dead and injured, millions of Iraqi people displaced as a direct result of this war, record breaking oil profits, illegal wiretapping and datamining, a Justice Department run amuck, a Republican controlled congress who did nothing but rubber stamp the Bush administrations efforts to undermine our constitution, NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE FALSE PRE-WAR INTELLIGENCE, a failing no child left behind program, loss of fair paying jobs, a housing market going bust NEED I SAY MORE?

Take your pick from the many reasons that the American people have lost confidence in this administration, our congress, our constitution, our country, our morality.

Sir the American peope's faith in our government is hanging on by a thin thread. Your willingness as well as some other congress people to make a stand gives us hope. And oh do we need to hope.

There is absolutely no way to restore the hope and faith in our government but to investigate hold people, telecom companies, the Bush administration, industry, the "cakewalk in Iraq" zealots who are now trying to push our nation into a confrontation in Iran ACCOUNTABLE. This Sir IS THE VERY LEAST THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVES CAN DO FOR OUR COUNTRY, FOR OUR CONSTITUTION AND FOR THOSE THOUSANDS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED INJURED OR DISPLACED IN A WAR OF CHOICE.

Thank you Senator Dodd for taking a stand...we are right behind you.

Sincerely
Kathleen Galt

Karen's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

I am very pleased that you have taken a firm stand against the FISA amnesty bill, I wish more of our elected officials had the guts and honor to stand up for what they say. That you are taking time away from the presidential campaign to honor your pledge of duty to the people who you represent in the Senate is inspiring. Sir, thank you very much.

I have been very much disturbed by the descent toward fascism we have witnessed over the past 7 years. It saddens me that my country is not being governed so much as bullied. Voices of reason and temperance are called out as unpatriotic – a vile characterization of an inherent Right as an American citizen. The taint of such a charge has silenced many voices and I find it absolutely ridiculous that our executive branch behaves so childishly. The petulant, small-minded, power grabbing must end and those responsible must be held accountable.

We were led by falsehoods into a costly war. Our free speech has been impeded. Our president speaks only with carefully screened audiences. Dissenters are arrested or otherwise removed from such gatherings. Offense is taken if criticism is offered by anyone and the remark dismissed in favor of “swift-boating” the offender. The executive branch and the crony-‘hood’ that surrounds it threaten anyone who threatens their clutch on power. Universities where students such as Monica Goodling are groomed to be obedient minions of the regime are suppressing thought. News outlets are controlled by party loyalists. Real reporting has to be gleaned from tidbits here or from overseas agencies as we are spoon-fed only approved sound bites.

I find I am often in a position of having to try to explain our country’s policies to international visitors. I cannot. There is no reason to any of it beyond the greed and cronyism of those in power. It is time to take back that power and let the balance of government swing back toward the legislative houses where the people have a more direct impact.

Sir, I applaud your filibuster. I encourage you to speak up against tyranny.

Sincerely,

Karen xxx
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Christopher turkel's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

There will come a time when historians will look back on our current era and take account. It is the duty of Congress to be a third branch of government, to have checks and balances on on the Executive branch.

Ever since the President took office, those checks and balances have been absent. The President and Vice President have used fear to as an excuse to destroy our civil liberties and to increase the power of the Executive in ways not intended by the fouders of our great nation.

History will take account of those who stood up in this time of darkness and crisis, who said 'enough is enough' and began to turn the tide back and to restore the balance.

I commend Senator Dodd for his stand. I only wish other Senators would do the same.

Christopher Turkel
Cheshire, MA

Kathleen's picture

Scarecrow over at Firedoglake on Senator Dodd's efforts
http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/17/13846/
Who Will Stand with Chris Dodd for the Constitution?
By: Scarecrow Monday December 17, 2007 5:00 am
Constitution gutted

Gutting the Constitution

Sometime today, Chris Dodd will take the floor in the US Senate and begin talking -- a filibuster -- and what he has to say touches on the most important issues facing this country. The immediate topic will be a bill to provide retroactive immunity to telecom companies who violated the law by helping the Bush Administration illegally spy on Americans. But the larger issue is whether Congress will ever hold a lawless executive branch responsible for its criminal behavior.

Senator Dodd will not be alone; a handful of Democratic Senators -- including Russ Feingold and Ted Kennedy -- will be there to support him, and for those who promised to help, this is the time. They have to help him because their party's so-called leadership has failed, again, in an all too familiar pattern of ineptitude and enabling.

Dodd and friends know how important it is to stop the atrocious Intelligence Committee bill, a bill that in addition to granting the telecoms immunity, does far too little to repair the damage Congress did last August to the 4th Amendment, individual liberty and privacy when they passed the dishonestly named Protect America Act (PAA).

But these few Democrats will not be enough to stop this travesty, and the question is: who will be there to help them? They need help, our help, the media's help and the help of every Senator and Representative who still believes in the Constitution's principles of accountable government and civil liberties. Those principles have been gravely damaged by a lawless Administration and a cowardly Congress, and it is long past time to stand up to this withering, unending assault on the Constitution.

The genius of our system is the principle of accountable government through three separate but equal branches, along with Constitutional limits on government's power to invade individual liberty and privacy. These core principles are under relentless attack by this Administration. In the last week alone, the Administration told Congress, a co-equal branch in our Constitution, that neither the Justice Department nor the CIA will cooperate with Congress in its efforts to conduct lawful investigations into apparent lawbreaking. AG Mukasey's DoJ told federal courts that this Administration does not have to obey court orders to produce documents, that it does not have to comply when judges ask whether they have relevant evidence to reveal, and that if prosecutors are caught dissembling, they cannot be held accountable. The Administration refuses to honor lawful Congressional subpoenas for the appearance and testimony of executive branch witnesses; and if Congress holds such individuals in contempt -- as it should -- the Administration arrogantly refuses to enforce Congress' subpoenas. It is no surprise that the Administration's lawless conduct is spreading unchecked.

The Administration's guiding belief is that it is accountable to no one, that no other branch has the right to investigate its conduct, even when it acts against the Constitution. The Bush Administration has been concealing criminal, inept or unethical behavior from Congress and the courts, while denying the right and duty of the other two branches to hold the executive branch accountable. If the executive can act without accountability, we have a dictatorship -- there is no other word for it, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise.

It's time for our media and every member of Congress to wake up and take this matter seriously. The country's founding principles are in grave danger, and saving the country demands their undivided attention to stand up against the onslaught. Nothing that is happening in Iowa or New Hamshire is nearly as important.

The leading Presidential candidates are under the illusion that the most important thing facing the country is to elect a new President next November. That can wait. The nation's laws and constitutional framework are under attack now, and by next November, further irreparable damage could be done to that framework.

The time for leadership is now, not January 2009. We need all hands on deck, starting with Senators Obama, Clinton, and Biden. You want to be our leader? Leadership begins by standing with Senator Dodd.

Senate phone numbers are here; we should focus first on the 14 Senators who promised to help Dodd. Here are their fax and phone numbers:

Name

Fax

Phone
Feingold (202) 224-2725 (202) 224-5323
Dodd (202) 224-1083 (202) 224-2823
Obama (202) 228-4260 (202) 224-2854
Sanders (202) 228-0776 (202) 224-5141
Menendez (202) 228-2197 (202) 224-4744
Biden (202) 224-0139 (202) 224-5042
Brown (202) 228-6321 (202) 224-2315
Harkin (202) 224-9369 (202) 224-3254
Cardin (202) 224-1651 (202) 224-4524
Clinton (202) 228-0282 (202) 224-4451
Akaka (202) 224-2126 (202) 224-6361
Webb (202) 228-6363 (202) 224-4024
Kennedy (202) 224-2417 (202) 224-4543
Boxer (415) 956-6701 (202) 224-3553
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58 Responses to “Who Will Stand with Chris Dodd for the Constitution?”
RevDeb December 17th, 2007 at 5:03 am
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It’s time for the people we supposedly elected to do their jobs and be true to their oaths of office. Any takers?

Norwood Woman's picture

Senator Dodd,

These are times that call for some heroes to step forward and start taking this country and its constitution back for the very people who elected them as their representatives. I thank God for you being a hero! More are needed, and I pray your heroism will shame enough of your peers into taking the actions necessary to put a stop to yet one more nail in the coffin of our rights and liberties. I intend to do my part today to help that along by calling my own senators and a few others.

I wake up daily and don't recognize the country the I live in anymore. This saddens me beyond anything I could ever imagined. But it also angers me that spinelessness is the order of the day among the Democrats I have supported all of my life. Sen. Reid's spinelessness and lack of a moral compass is especially disturbing. It's pretty clear who his masters are. I don't know how he lives with himself.

We all need to be making phone calls, writing letters, sending emails today to let our Democratic cowards know exactly how we feel about this.

Thank you, Sen. Dodd!

Ms. Knox
Cincinnati, Ohio
Lifelong Democrat

Rana Quijotesca's picture

Perhaps he should read the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 9th, and 14th amendments, followed by the Decision in Us v US District Court

TomR's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

As an American citizen, I fully support you and your filibuster today. Granting retroactive immunity to companies who may have engaged in illegal spying on American citizens is anti-Constitutional. The fourth amendment states:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

I hope all Senators will remember and internalize what the fourth amendment means. They are bound by the oath they took to uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

I would also encourage all Senators and Congresspeople to never cast a vote out of fear. Beware of being manipulated and emotionally abused into how you vote. Let reason be your guide always. Stand up for the rights of all Americans. It's your job.

Respectfully,

- TomR

Annie's picture

Dear Senator Dodd:

The Constitution is not a dead document. It is not a dusty scrap of parchment.
 
It is a set of principles, forged by those who put greater good above personal gain and idea of country above local benefit. The ideas of people who were deemed dangerous rabble would be today's Bush dissenters.

They placed the rule of law above the rules of men.

Today I implore you to remind your colleagues in the Senate, in the House, in the judicial branch and those who occupy the executive branch of those very ideas. Implore them to remember their oaths of office and to finally uphold them.

The United States is now only a shadow of a democracy. It is in large part a farce, having been torn asunder over the past seven years by a few men and women who spit on the Constitution, who wantonly broke laws and hid their actions, and who subverted the Constitution for their personal gain.

We the people demand a full restoration of the legacy that is ours: the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the United States of America.

If that is lost, then we are lost.
 
If those principles are abandoned, subverted and stolen, then the states have no reason to continue united. Every one to his own way. Every one to claw in the free market at the expense of neighbor, at the expense of ethics, at the expense of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

What you must do is to be the living line in the sand to defend and to protect the constitution against domestic enemies.

The domestic enemies include your colleagues who do not support, protect and defend each and every one of the precepts of the Constitution. They include every single elected and appointed official at every level of government who treads on our Constitution.

You stand between the Constitution and those who will do it irreparable harm.

These are perilous times indeed.

We must all hang together or surely we will all hang separately.

Thank you, Senator Dodd, for hanging with we, the people.

Annie

Avid Reader's picture

Send the guy a hundred bucks . . . money speaks louder than words . . . its working for Dr. Paul

http://chrisdodd.com/home

myshadow's picture

Senator Dodd,

This is a letter of strong, no THE STRONGEST, support for the stand you are taking. I urge as many of your collegues in the Senate to stand with you. The course the country is charting is shredding the fabric of our Constitution. We are writing to let you know we stand with you and are proud and angry enough to WILLINGLY suspend my anonimity to sign on you. Thank you, one American to Another.

George Chacona
Seattle

me to me's picture

I hope I am in time senator to contribute, it is an honor to stand on the same side as you on this issue

retro active immunity gives these corporations the right to keep property they have stolen from me.

the MAIN reason we need privacy is NOT to hide information we are most embarrassed, we need privacy to hide information WE ARE MOST PROUD

I need to protect my business contacts, my sources, I need to protect what I have paid for product, what I am willing to pay, what I will bid, what others have bid for my goods

I need to protect my manuscripts, if I am developing a carburetor that will get 150 miles to the gallon, I want to be able to market that for full value and I DON’T want to compete with people who have STOLEN my information.

these corporations have stolen information and they have allowed officials to steal information

I NEED TO BE COMPENSATED for the the information that has been taken from me

IF a company has acted in good faith, in the interest of national security, then they don’t need immunity

and why on earth would they need “immunity” if they haven’t stolen from us?

I don’t want depraved “officials” making believe they can gather my property and I don’t want private corporations gathering my property with impunity

we MUST protect our privacy so we can protect our property

I ALSO don’t want depraved individuals use the cover of government to spy on my wife, I don’t want them using the cover of government to listen in on my daughters private conversations or looking up her dress

and I DON’T want depraved individuals using the cover of government to see ANYTHING that’s the private information of my son, my daughter, my wife, myself.

RETROACTIVE IMMUNITY GIVES CORPORATIONS LICENSE TO KEEP MY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY

and I want to MAKE SURE they did NOT steal from me, and IF THEY DID THEY NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO THE BAR OF JUSTICE

Jeremy's picture

So why is Harry Reid making Senator Dodd do a real filibuster instead of a procedural one? He doesn't do this to the Republicans.

don't hate me's picture

#66 Kathleen...

I've been posting and calling for 48 hours. You're correct. Chris Dodd needs the help of Hillary and Barack. Without their help his filibuster may fail.

Yet my posts are completely ignored.

I don't want to read any posts from Hillary and Barack supporters next week Today is the proving day. If they don't join the filibuster how can anyone even contemplate voting for the cowards??

People, start calling them today and DEMAND they support Chris Dodd's filibuster. We're going to lose the 4th amendment. Please start FIGHTING!

1-800-828-0498
1-800-614-2803

Michelle's picture

Senator Dodd could remind the world of a couple of issues that caused The dems to take the House and Senate in a landslide:

http://www.lfchosting.com/sportsfem/peace/bloggingbitch.html

Too much to ask?

jp's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

Because of my professional pursuits, I have to remain anonymous and while that may seem cowardly it is demonstrative of the level to which we have sunk as a nation in the past six years. Imagine a country in which one is fearful that one might lose one's livelihood if one protests illegal spying on American citizens. This is the country in which we live today and I am one of those who has that fear.

Having grown up in the cold war, I recall my parents and teachers telling me with great pride that the reason America was superior to the Soviets was its freedom. Yes, we had made serious mistakes during the McCarthy era, when we allowed a paranoid and disturbed individual to lead us in a way that was - in essence - a declaration of surrender to the Soviet style of life. But, my parents and teachers said, that could never happen again. We had learned!

Today, however, as a result of the cowardice of our leaders we are once again surrendering to our enemies. All of those who support the legislation as the administration wishes it to be drafted are surrendering our country to those who despise all it stands for. All of those who support the legislation as the administration wishes it to be drafted are expressing their cowardice. All of those who support the legislation as the administration wishes it to be drafted are declaring their disgust with the American concepts of liberty and freedom. In a just world, they would resign their offices immediately, having recognized that they do not have the spine to be leaders in America or even Americans at all.

In a just world, a line would be drawn in the sand and those who believe in the promise of America would step across and join you. In this world, however, were you to draw that line in front of our current government, I fear that those who stepped to the side of American values would be very lonely indeed.

mudshark's picture

Senator Dodd: Thank you for doing your job.It seems that Politicians like you are in short supply these days.With all this admin has done to undermine Democracy,It's about time someone took a stand.This admin has run a muck and have attacked the very fabric that makes this country great.I'd like to continue with this letter but I have to go to work.......gotta pay those taxes.What your doing today is needed....in the worst way.We're talking about AMERICA...The once greatest nation on the planet....right this wrong and put the country back on track.We can still return America to it's greatness....Thank You Sir.............respectfully.......Gerad Devanny.

Spirilis's picture

"Disputation of Martin Luther on the Power and Efficacy of Indulgences," which came to be known as The 95 Theses.
Who says history doesn't repeat itself?

dmg's picture

Senator Dodd,

Thank you, and thanks be to other senators supporting your filibuster.

This is yet another issue that extends beyond party lines.
You either believe in the Constitution, or you don't.
You either believe that the Fourth Amendment must be obeyed, or you don't.
You either understand your responsibility as a representative of the people, or you FAIL YOUR OATH OF OFFICE.

This bill would make complicit every single senator with the administration's wholesale lawlessness, and establish a principle of CORPORATE immunity for illegal actions taken on behalf of the government.

If senators aren't chilled by that consequence, then they are either not paying attention, or are far too cynical to remain in office. And those are only the most charitable readings of their motivation.

This nation is starving for representation that defends the Constitution and the principles which made America the inspiration of the world. Opposition to this bill is a patriotic act, yes, but it is also part of what we the people expect from our senators.

Thanks again, Senator Dodd.

D Gold

Ruthless People's picture

In other news everyone's favorite Republican - "Independent" Joe Lieberman - endorsed fellow Republican John McCain.

Not that it will give McCain much bounce since Lieberman can not longer undermine the Democratic Party from within.

Johnny2Bad's picture

DODD '08

Thank you, Senator.

Robert in MD's picture

Senator Dodd,

I hope that while you are standing on the Senator Floor you could remind your colleagues that it is we the people who elect them to office, not corporations. We the people of the United States have elected you as members of congress to serve in our best interests. We are NOT interested in electing you to protect the interests of large corporations.

The United States Congress is not in the business of granting immunities to persons or entities who violate our laws. Whether for our Nations Security or some other sinister purpose, no one in this country is above the rule of law. Granting immunity to the companies in question is a perverse manipulation our the American system of Justice.

segmentation fault's picture

just open up a dictionary and start reading. filibuster complete.

Michael Smith's picture

Senator Dodd,

Before we give the telecommunication companies immunity, we need to know what these companies are doing.

For example, phone companies have long used telephone records -- that is, records of who called whom, when, and for how long -- to detect phone fraud. If this method is being used to detect terror networks, then that is perhaps acceptable, but it should be done with the approval of Congress. Less acceptable is using these records to find drug dealers, which is not a national defense action, but a law enforcement action. Again, if this is to be done, it should be done with Congressional oversight.

What concerns the American people, and what is implicit in the fact that all sides have been referring to these investigations as "wiretaps," is that the government, in cooperation with the phone companies, is using the contents of the phone calls themselves to conduct law enforcement actions, without a proper court order. This is completely unacceptable; it violates the Fourth Amendment, regardless of how it is done, unless it is done with a specific warrant.

If your colleagues have a shred of respect for the Constitution, they will join you in this filibuster.

Mike Smith
Portland, Oregon

furysmom's picture

Dear Senator Dodd,

Thank you standing up for our constitution and our country. I would like you to ask your fellow senators to look at themselves and ask if they are too compromised to serve with integrity anymore. If they are voting against our country and even against their own statements (Senator Graham's anti-torture statements come to mind), then it looks to the rest of us out here in the real world that they are being pressured by somebody. That pressure can only mean greed or blackmail. It is time for the American people to demand accountability and to demand that we adhere to the laws that were made by rational people--not those reacting out of fear.

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