FOX GOP NH Debate: Focus Group Findings
By Nicole Belle Sunday Jan 06, 2008 11:46am
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If FOXNews has a debate, you know we're going get Frankie "The Hair" Luntz and his focus groups telling us exactly what FOX News wants you to believe. Kind of like how Luntz's coining of "The Clean Skies Initiative" didn't actually contribute to clean air but added more pollution to the environment.
So in FOX/Luntz world, the clear winner at the debate was Mitt Romney, who according to these "unaffiliated Republican voters," stands the best chance of beating Barack Obama, who has suddenly unseated Hillary Clinton as the presumptive Democratic candidate. Why, you ask? "Because he has presence" and "looks good on TV."
And yet Luntz tries to ask you not to believe your lying ears and believe that these voters are more issue-oriented and less faith-based than their Iowan counterparts. Maybe it's just me, but it sounds like a huge leap of faith that someone will win elections and/or be a good President (I'm not convinced that they thought that far ahead) because he looks good on TV.
UPDATE: FDL has video of Paulistas confronting Frankie on his skewing of the Fox focus group.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/honkywill/fuckusgroup2.jpg
Fristy Frist.
Not to mention, Frank seems to be running out of unaffiliated republican voters. He's recycled at least one guy already:
http://roobaroo.net/Images/Fox_Focus_Group.jpg
If he hides that he is bald, I can put no trust in him.
Ron Paul = "America's Savior"? Thanks for giving me yet another reason to avoid Paulistas.
BlueTooth @ 2:
That guy bears a striking resemblance to David Horowitz!
Nice hairpiece, Frankie!!!
Your appearance on Maher and seeing that bad boy on your head in action made me have to watch the show twice - once for the content, once because I could not take my eyes off of your head.
Your bald! Be a real man and live with it! Oh wait, you're a Republican...no way you can be a real man. Nevermind...
If you look you can see ron paul signs in the background in the windows.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KrpES1Lk7X4
Fuck you Frank!
OK, I know the results are totally fixed in this focus group. But I did enjoy the woman who told us she was voting for a president, not a pastor (ie Huckster).
And yes, don't miss the Paulites confronting The Hair. good stuff.
"Because he has presence" and "looks good on TV". LOL. Unbelievable! Yeah, the first thing I look for in a candidate is their good looks. What a group morons! Just perfect for the sheeple who tune in to Faux News!
What the hell is an unaffiliated Republican voter? Doesn't one cancel the other out?
Fox News really needs to be eaten alive. They've gone too far.
Issues should top everyone's agenda, but charisma still plays a huge role in electability.
Luntz is a putz. But imagine Gore or any of the other dem candidates over the past two decades with a bit of charisma. It does matter. Shouldn't, but it's part of how we size up people in the public media.
You know, voters couldn't look past the superficial in
2000 and 2004, so he might be on to something.
It's all about looks and $$$.
Competence and brains are only for losers when you are
pleading for votes from American morons.
Frank should consider himself lucky that he didnt get the Sean Hannity treatment. Hannity got mobbed on the way back to his hotel. Rightfully so I say.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9p9uBLqz958
Both Luntz & Faux are shameful and frankly full of shit! How long can we allow this to be called "NEWS"? This has to be stopped from calling this "Fox News"....this is false advertising at least.
Now that the Iowa circus (yes the spelling is correct) is over, the powers that be can get on with nominating Romney for the GOP.
Huckaberry was a flash in the Iowa pan. His 15 minutes are officially up. The same MAY be true of Obama. Let the race baiting begin!
These people scare me. Are they voting to protect America or the Republican party? The only reasons they could all cite for supporting Romney were his presence and on-air persona? And these are the people who think Ron Paul is insane? Kind of makes you wonder which side you want to fall on...
Here's to RP winning NH
As I said earlier, that toupee covers the sphincter on his head.
This man is the Josef Goebbels of Fox Propaganda Network.
F**k off Frank indeed!
-GSD
I always find it ironic that the Dem candidates are the ones in need o Charisma. When we overlook the fact that both Bushes, Ray-gun, and Ford/Nixon for that matter had all the combined charisma of an artichoke.
What we need is to have a liberal wing in this country which is willing to put a fight and stop the conservative wackos from continuing framing the political discourse in this country.
The fact that a GOP candidate can, with a straight face, recycle the old meme of Dems=Socialist=Taxes=Baaaad. It is just a testament on how the old "we can not sink to their level, so we will kill them with kindness" approach carried out by some liberals in this country for the better part of half a century, is not working.
Frank Lutz is a manipulative moron, his only "talent" is that he is not hindered by anything resembling scruples. He should be treated like such...
The FAUX game plan last night....1) ditch paul because he'd make the already pathetic group of people on stage look worse. 2) Proceed to ruin Gomer cause he scares the sheet out of the neocons and would ruin their plans 3) Overwhelming pump up the most plutocratic candidate on stage who will say anything he's told to say to win...4 ) tell the likely loyalty oathed fair and balanced focus group to worship the Baseball Glove in the post clown show get together 5 ) make sure denture and boner pill ads are run between breaks to cater to the audience 6 ) unleash Insannity and a panel of Bobbleheads to trash Hillary cause they think they have enough dirt on Barrack to slime him out of the race.
Nothing these people say or do will change the outcome of next election.
Mitt is a money hoarding, flip-flopping hypocrite who, if he can buy his way into the general election, will have his holy pants ass handed to him by a country that is ready for a change of politics.
You just shot yourself in the foot there. The whole "Shouldn't be president just because he looks good on TV" thing has been a fact of the U.S. presidential elections since Kennedy(w) vs. Nixon.
Don't just write stuff. Think first.
this is the state of our representative (see, pseudo) democracy. the media/govt/corporate elites do NOT want to objectively talk about the real issues facing this country. can you imagine a cnn/msnbc/fauxNoise program discussing the efficacy of media conglomeration? or what about CEO pay packages? the abhorrent practice of privatization of biological necessities (see, water), etc?
no.
what we get is this fucking frank putz/chris matthews/tucker sort of bullshit. where the horserace is covered like a highschool football game, where the ramifications of certain candidates' positions are secondary to the sideshow/soap opera of who we'd rather have a beer with, who looks more presidential, etc.
is it news? no. is it entertainment? nope. 'tis newsertainment. and the price? our freedom.
Man, those youtube links to the Hannity mobbing and the verbal flaying of Luntz deserve a post all their own.
http://roobaroo.net/Images/Fox_Focus_Group.jpg
These are not focus groups on Faux.
They are staged entertainment shows that show not reality, but what Fox WANTS to be reality, in the face of reality.
Faux news today is like what the WWf claimed was true in the 1980's. It's only there to make people who WANT to think it's real to be told by a seemingly valid organization that their completely misguided views are somehow justified.
The viewers of Faux do not want to learn, they want to have their views repeated.
Faux, as any business would do, gladly obliges and satisfies this demand. I don't place 100% of the blame on Faux. I ALSO blame the millions of viewers who tune in to watch. It's like there is this chunk of the population who like to tell each other that their mistaken views are justified. It's like the Special Olympics. Faux and their viewers can come together and "debate" the issues, but at the end of the day, they're still retarded.
We're in a war.
The economy stinks.
We are close to living in a police state.
Last time, people voted for someone they wanted to have a beer with.
Now, they're looking for someone who looks good on T.V.
We have a lot to look forward to.
I'm Mitt Romney and I approved this focus group.
So did they find out that no one cares what Fox decides except the 23%?
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Chuck and his twin are the undecided? Fox probably can't find enough people to be part of their focus group.
That whole segment might as well have ended with "I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message"
I wonder who Fox News want for President? I'm just not picking up any clues....
The Paultards are not going to slink away quietly and lay down. They're loud. They're proud. And they're in Sean Hannity's face!
I love those guys.
cv @ 24:
Uh no. The Kennedy/Nixon looks came into play with the first televised presidential debate. Those who watched it thought JFK won, because he was cool and good looking and Nixon was sweaty and shifty-eyed. Those who listened to it on the radio thought Nixon had won because of his grasp of the issues.
Kennedy and his wife were attractive and glamorous, but that wasn't the main reason people voted for him. JFK's charisma, his quick wit, his speeches that promised a better America (aka "Camelot") all played into his election. Keep in mind that 1960 was just the threshold of the television era where more houses than not had TVs.
However, for you who misses the forest for the trees, the material point was that Luntz characterized these NH voters as issue-oriented, which is why they opted for Romney over Huckabee. Think first yourself: why FOXNews would focus on good looks instead of populist appeal? Even the polls show that Romney's favorability is dropping in NH, and Huckabee's is rising.
Fox isn't going give us John Edwards, who might dare to mention the case of the health care executive who retired from his job with over $100 million in the policy-holders loot.
The Dude @ 21:
I like artichokes. They taste good. Additionally, they aren't lying pieces of shit which makes them better than those to whom you have compared them.
I love the Ron Paul signs in the windows. I don't see how Fox can think it is somehow their right to narrow down the field in a Democracy. On another note, the "independents" in this clip appeared in other similar segments that fox has had in the past. Here is the proof to the latter claim,
The guy in www. youtube .com/watch?v=PYLVgMF9R9g (at 3:45) is the same guy in www. youtube .com/watch?v=ZenB1s2rKDI (at 1:44). Its fox, its fascism fair and balanced
frank would tell his own mother, it's for the good of the country that you suck my crank.
According to the latest Penn/Teller poll 1 in 10 people think Luntz is a douchebag!
Fuck You FRANK!
Someone out there who truly cares about Frank should please tell him how ridiculous he looks with that squirrel on his head. Every time I see him, I just laugh. How can anything this dope be taken serious wearing that rug? He might as well have a booger hanging from his nose while he speaks.
The Secret Government wants to turn Ron Paul into an Unperson.Unperson. Just like they have done to us.
EXPOSED!
Frank Luntz and Faux News FRAUDULENT Focus Group:
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=5194
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=79365
The idea is to torpedo Huck before he gets any momentum;
What is weird is, they are trapped in a nightmare of their own
making?
IF Obama does run the table, their best shot is McCain, who
is the only one of these clowns who has (Ok, HAD, but memories
are long out there) any integrity, and he really does have Foriegn
Policy and Military background?
Unlike Mitt "my sons are serving in Iowa"...
Besides, Huck had the best line on Romney so far...
Why vote for someone who looks just like the guy that laid
you off from your job?
But, the RNC has spent YEARS marginalizing McCain, now,
it's too late to reabilitate him with the base.
The base will be lukeware on Romney, and he has flip-flopped
so much, he can't even remember..
Romney or Rudy will go down like a bowling pin against Barack?
Oh, and, is anyone outside of Tennessee really going to put
a guy who thinks the world is 6000 years old in the WH?
Left&Left @ 40:
LOL! I almost couldn't even type LOL I was laughing so hard.
i wish you guys wouldnt get down on the ass hat for trying to hide the fact that he is bald
as one of the many hair impaired, i know what it does to ones self esteem
why not just rip him as an absolute liar and total fraud?
thank you
Frank Luntz and Fox News have just been EXPOSED as phonies with their latest focus group scam.
They use the same operative in multiple GOP focus groups.
Check the photos here and here.
This is so blatantly propaganda. This cherry-picked group is obviously rehearsed. I just listened to Doughy Pantload on NPR trash Huckabee. He claims his bias is only because he's a fake conservative. These GOP fascist drovers are in desperate mode. It's embarrassingly crude.
I don't care who you are, ya gotta love the way Huckster and Paul have repug heads spinning!
damn, if Mitt manages to slither his way into the white house by taking advantage of american stupidity, then there is going to be a smart revolution to fight!
That isn't a genuine focus group.
Those are paid actors.
The fix is in. Luntz and Fox are lying scumbags.
can someone explain to me new hampshire repugs, or at least the ones in the focus group?
they said that huckabee wears his religion on his sleeve, and thats why they dont like him, yet they liked what romney said about pro life, which is a religious and moral issue
never mind...they are just as fucked up as every repug in this country
sammy @ 45:
Pretty obvious. Luntz is a propagandist that gets labeled a independent expert. How good is that for a advocate? Another is Kristol. He's getting paid to advertise the GOP and AIPAC talking points while be allowed to wear the cloak of journalist.
uncle joe mccarthy@44 Dude, if Luntz wasn't such an arrogant, judgmental, asshole people probably wouldn't point out HIS insecurities. This bald, Bush butt licking, war cheer leader can go fuck himself!
WashStateBlue @ 42:
i am going to glam on to that point, b/c i think they are trapped in a larger nightmare of their own creation.
for decades the GOP has been able to get millions of americans to vote against their own interests. the GOP elites, the uberrich, have used small business men, small farmers, evangelicals, etc for decades through their orwellian, and very successful, tactic of creating social wedge issues (gay marriage, confederate flag, flag burning, etc). and then, once elected, the GOP would rule the way they always rule: for the rich and for corporations.
yet, now, the "monster" they created has come back to haunt them. the evangelicals, some with progressive streaks (hucky) are, all of a sudden, challenging the market fundamentalists for control of the party. personally, i love this. it is about time the two polarized wings of the GOP had it out. it is too long that the trickle downers have used the "social conservatives" for their own financial gain.
the corporate-teet-suckers have used those their economic policies hurt for so long. i can't even begin to describe to you how much i am enjoying the far right civil war. luv it.
Nicole Belle @ 34:
There were multiple debates during that election cycle, Nixon for lost both TV-only and Radio-only polls in some of those debates but not all. The point was that Nixon lost far heavily when TV viewers were polled.
A lot of the framing of the 60s election after the fact is now geared toward putting Nixon as a victim of Kennedy good looks. All this revisionist crap tends to ignore that Nixon only did as good as he did, because he was running on the coat tails of the Ike presidency.
Eisenhower, ironically was quoted as being more scared of Nixon than Kennedy. And he had ran as a republican because he thought it was the best way of neutralizing the rising tide of the reactionary conservatism that was becoming pervasive inside the GOP. Nixon was just the prime example of the virulence of these reactionaries, their persistence and sense of entitlement towards the White House only surpassed by the tenacity of a bad weed. And it seems that ol' Ike completely miscalculated the amount of effort required to neutralize what was going on at the GOP.
LOL Huckabee truley is the animal on the lose that the GOP didn't intend on him gaining ground.
The corperate media are really doing a dirty job to slime Huckabee down to pimp the corrupt Romney
"he looks good on television"
I'm sick of Frank Luntz getting these wingnut welfare jobs
Luntz long ago sold his soul to the devil and he's only a flesh puppet animated by Bealzabubb himself.
I can't get past the idea of why anyone would vote republican period.These people puzzle me to no end.I wouldn't help elect anyone on the Republican side for Dog catcher.
I do believe Mitt has been chosen by the elite as evidenced by Crime Boss Papa Bush appearing with him a few times. Go Huckabee! (Well, at least until the general election).
The Dude @ 53:
You two are having a debate that is way too intelligent for this thread. Can we please go back to talking about squirrels?
Speaking of Fox "News", the hope is that Crooks and Liars will be able to show a recent segment of Hannity & Colmes. On that segment, Viggo Mortensen was their guest. Hannity said to Mortensen, who was campaigning for Dennis Kucinich: "In spite of everything, I'm going to forgive your politics..."
Mortensen: "You don't have to. I'm not going to forgive yours."
Erroll @ 61:
great come back-thats how you deal with that Fred Flintstone looking mutt.
It sure must be no fun to participate in a Fox 'Focus Group', what with all the unfocused stares, the drool on the floor, the babbling incoherence.
Sort of like watching their 'News'.
Oh so the fox dial turner polls can be skewed???!!!!
Well now we know how FOX has been skewing the polls with plants that are told how to skew the polls.
Out of Lunts own mouth - the poll can be skewed by republican right wing plants invited to skew his show purposfully. But when someone from the other side catches on well Frank has the right to make up his own mind what the results were base on how he saw someone twisting the dial.
AMAZING HOW LOW FOX CAN GO. TO THE DEPTHS OF HELL WITH LUNTS AND MURDOCH!
Erroll at 61.
newshounds.us have that video.
I am by no means a Ron Paul supporter, I support an Edwards/Obama winining ticket, but I saw both Kucinich and Paul on Bill Moyers and I saw Paul this morning on CNN. We are being fucked out of a fair hearing of peoples' ideas in exchange for corporate media approved empty suits. It is past time to enforce equal access to the airwaves. They belong to us and equal access will save America from having a coporation-run propaganda ministry.
And by the way Viggo Mortensen rules. A great actor with real brains and looks better than that jeri-curled Mitt Romney.
Viddy here.
i thought it was “The CLEAR Skies Initiative”...
as in "CLEAR the skies of birds" (credit al franken)...
STEVEinSC @ 66:
Words of truth, bro. Reasonable people get this. People who hate freedom, liberty and democracy do not.
And yet, most of the posts I've seen supporting Obama are just about as superficial: he gives us warm fuzzies. So Luntz is saying that Romney's warm fuzzies will beat out Obama's in the general. Fuzzy logic is how we got two doses of the Shrub (too bad penicillin won't cure it); now it's deja vu all over gain? Maybe the Electoral College as originally conceived wasn't such a bad idea after all.
Heh, I watched this last night. Laughing my ass off and loving the Ron Paul signs in the background. I thought the comedy writers were on strike? The payoff though, was when they cut back to Brit Hume who looked like he had just shit him self. Well played Paulies. Despite Faux's best effort, they really just made Ron Paul look this much more appealing to the joe schmo viewers, by making him the candidate equivalent of a martyr(ftr, i don't quite want to use this word, but i cant think of one better).
Plus, as I've said times and times before, the reason that people are so excited about Paul's message, and the reason the Faux is trying to shut him out, is because he is the only one on the Republican side with an anti-war message, for whatever the reason. As progressives and liberals, this is what we should be talking about with Paul. Forget his racist supporters, forget the gold standard nonsense, forget the shutting down the FDA; it's all irrelevant. All the bat-shit other ideas he has would come out in time and make him not a threat in the general election, but for now let us at least give him proper respect for his one sane idea. Please don't buy into the framing, too soon at least, of down playing the fact that he is so appealing for one reason and only one, that even the Dems have stopped talking about...
GETTING OUT OF IRAQ.
derek p @ 67:
Thanks for the link. For the longest time, I had been a huge supporter of Kucinich. That feeling has cooled after Kucinich made that bizarre suggestion to his supporters in Iowa that if they thought he could not win, that they should then vote for Obama, a candidate who, like Clinton and Edwards, is the antithesis of what Kucinich stands for. As Chris Dodd pointed out, a candidate should not suggest voting for another candidate, especially if that candidate does not share the same values that he does [Obama does not support immediate withdrawal of the troops from Iraq, universal health care, impeachment of Bush and Cheney, believes in keeping the nuclear option open vis a vis Iran, which is not the best way of winning the hearts and minds of the Iranian people, all things which go against the grain of what Kucinich is supposed to stand for]. This simply confirms the notion that Kucinich should have run as a third party candidate, instead of remaining in a party that believes in the same issues that he does.
Erroll @ 74:
Correction on the last line. It should read "... instead of remaining in a party that does not believe in the same issues that he does."
I, like most people, have never watched Fox for an extended period of time. I see them when flipping through the channels. What I have seen is that old man screaming how he hates any one that disagrees with Bush's lies. He fat guy with a giant bald spot on the back of his head. He goes by O' Riley or some Irish name. He is the one that was shocked that black people had their own restaurants without lots of cursing. But like most people I have never been able to stomach more than a few minutes of this guy's Jerry Springer type shows. But today, I decided to watch Fox News with an open mind, just the segments they were actually calling news, and not the hate filled right wing shows with O'Riley and Hannity. Within just a few minutes of turning them on, they had a "breaking story" straight from the extreme far right website Druge that Hilliary was quitting the campaign. This was on a broadcast that they were calling "news". They even had a person that looked like a regular news anchor delivering the right wing comments, so at first glance you might think you were watching a legitimate newscast. And the anchor was even a pretty girl. From her appearance, it looked like a "reporter" you would see on the legitimate mainstream media, CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC. But when I started listening to her words, she actually said, "breaking news...according to Druge, Hillary is quitting the campaign." I'm not making this up. I guess many of you are not surprised if you have watched this cable channel very long. I have heard for years that Fox was just a mouth piece for Bush and his disaster in Iraq but I thought they would have at least pretended to be a legitimate news channel. But that is not the case. So I kept watching. Everyone knows that the far right wing made up a term "liberal bias" several years ago. If I ever hear anyone use that term I know I'm talking to a right wing nut and just end the conversation. As I continued to watch Fox today, guess what their promo said? "Fox News doesn't have a liberal bias." I couldn't believe it. They make no bones about their far right wing agenda. For most of Americans we are not right or left, we are Americans who vote for what is best for our country. So it goes without saying I will not be watching Fox anymore other than the few seconds I will see them through switching the channels. They are trying to divide Americans and make their candidates look good. Calling themselves a news channel is a disgrace. They are as far right wing as I have ever seen.
Here's a great example of how Fox News / Frank Luntz "Focus Groups" are a manufactured sham....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPQNdj3NqXE
F*&K YOU FRANK!
Um, yeah. He's right. Obama is leading because he's running a children's crusade and he's a very good talk show host. And he plays on the Oedipal conflicts of younger Americans. This is news to you? It sure isn't policy, which is almost indistinguishable from Edwards or Clinton's, except that it's weaker and wankier.
Outrageous! Romney can beat Obama?! These must be the 24%-ers we have here. The neocons who still 'believe' (thinking is out of the question) the Matrix is a documentary and the war in Iraq is just. We really ought to start tattooing the foreheads of everyone who got a lobotomy so we can identify them later when they try to tell us what we have to think or when they run for president...
How much have the republican party paid you to inflate the polling results?
Ah, how sweet it would be to have the Huckster as the Repub candidate. Think I'll send him $10 to that end.
Fox News Used Planted Actor In Focus Groups
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=5194
They will never get away with trying to discrediting RP.
Fox News Used Planted Actor In Focus Groups
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=5194
BillO will be reenacting the Obama incident tonight at 8p.m.
Just heard John Conyers on Thom Hartman. Hartman asked him what policies of Obama attracted him.
His answer floored me (I wish I had the transcript). Its like he didn't know Obama's policies, at all. He went on and on about "hope" and "a new way of doing things" and how great it was for a black man to "exceeding expectations." Not one solid policy description.
Can I scream now? Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.
All the networks have been dictating, or attempting to dictate, the choice of candidates since this whole thing started. It looks to me like it's working. The corporatist candidates are getting the largest share of coverage and opportunities to speak, while anybody who mentions the Constitution, is not 100 % corporate party line or who is anti-war is being excluded or ignored. The attempts to control the dialog and the debate would be almost comical, except for the fact that people seem to be repeating the bullshit they are being constantly fed from the MSM. If one candidate was in favor one day because he was towing the line, an says something the next day that deviates a fraction of an inch from corporate/neocon doctrine, they become instant shark bait.
Reminds me of the Soviets.
Johnny2Bad @ 84:
One probably should not blame Conyers for his response since Obama rarely indulges in specific policy proposals. Instead, Obama engages in the usual amorphous answers when he is asked questions regarding why he should be viewed as the "agent for change" who will supposedly lead this nation onto the right track, though that does not include getting those troops out of that hellhole as quickly as possible nor does it mean that every American will be covered by universal health care at the exclusion of the insurance companies, who will make sure that profit is put ahead of the needs of the people.
Barack Obama, agent of change? Agent of conformity would probably be a more apt description of this presidential candidate.
Do it early and often. It's really sad how irrational this whole process turns out to be.
Johnny2Bad @ 86:
Well, if it helps, I'm screaming with you. I was just telling my spouse at lunch that I give up the hope that most voters will actually look at facts. They insist on voting on a wish and a prayer. Blow out the birthday candles and you'll get your wish. It's especially distressing that even Conyers doesn't have a clue what Obama's stand on the issues is.
I didn't read thru all the comments so don't know if this has been addressed already but WTF is up with Luntz saying that, because NH voters say they don't want a preacher for POTUS, that means Iowa is more spiritual than NH!? Spiritual = fundamentalist!? I think not. The wordsmith should watch what words he's choosing a little better.
Plus, I keep envisioning Luntz and Goldberg as the perfect couple. D'ya think that'd work?
Here are the links to the YouTubes taht show Frank Luntz is a phony pollster, uses plants.
Watch this:
Video shown during 9/5/07 debate
Guy for McCain is 3:43 minutes in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLVgMF9R9g&feature=related
Video during New Hampshire Leadup 1/06/08
Supposedly all undecided voters
Same guy shows up. Luntz calls on him by name: "Chuck."
Now Chuck is shilling for Romney at 1:23 minutes in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rer_7TasNhQ
Gary, That was the best thing I've seen in a long time with Hannity running from the Paul voters. LMAO
hareli @ 92:
I think both of these clips are from the same venue. However, Luntz acting like a group of 29 can give anyone a clue as to what the general consensus of voters is, seems totally bogus. And I hate the tone of voice Luntz is using as if that can lend any gravitas to what he and a small, hand-picked group is saying about the candidates.
Sorry hareli, I'm wrong. Clips obviously aren't from the same time. Did they even try to claim they were making an attempt to use the same focus group? I think I already know the answer to that....
if.he.expects.anyone.to.believe.this.then.he.should.be.renamed:Frank.Dunce
Lutz the putz, is f'ing nutz. You may be able to fool 23% of the people all the time, but there is going to be hell to pay with the other 77%, once the repuke depression arrives. And all the spin gods in the universe are not going to be able to save the GOP!
Haha! I love how he says that the group was "obviously very sophisticated" in their understanding of the issues. Those idiots didn't mention a single issue and though Mitt Romney could beat Obama in a general election. Hilarious!
I'm telling you, this is all a joke. Eddie Izzard has been pretending he's a pollster named Frank Luntz for years, waiting for the right moment to make a lot of people look stupid. Tell me these are not the same person!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/images/320/eddieizzard.jpg
http://blogcabinca.org/wp-content/crp06frankluntz_01.jpg
Please refer to him as Frank "Putz". thank you.
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