Lieberman to attend Republican convention?
There's been some speculation, fueled by the candidate himself, that John McCain would consider Joe Lieberman as his running mate on the Republican ticket. Yesterday, Lieberman dismissed the talk -- but raised eyebrows anyway by hinting at which convention he may attend.
“No, I’d tell him, ‘Thanks, John, I’ve been there, I’ve done that. You can find much better,’ ” Lieberman told the Associated Press. “I’m not seeking anything else.” The Connecticut independent, who had switched from the Democratic Party after losing the Democratic presidential primary in 2006, had fueled speculation by endorsing McCain in December and campaigning with him in New Hampshire, Michigan, South Carolina and Florida.
Lieberman also told the AP that his endorsement of McCain isn’t a step toward switching to the Republican Party. “I don’t have any intention of leaving the Democratic Party,” he said. “I want to be a senator.”
Still, he left open the door to attending the Republican convention if McCain wins the nomination. “I’d probably be more welcome there,” he said. (emphasis added)
Don't be surprised to see Lieberman as 2008's Zell Miller.
piece of shit!
people of Connecticut...boot that bich!
He already left the Democratic party, hence the Independent label.
This is not news. I think we all knew that the "Joe-mentum" was moving towards the Republicans since at least 2005.
He's been a repug for years.
Well, at least he's finally right about something; he most certainly would be more welcome among his fellow GOPers.
He certainly is the perfect politician isn't he? He reminds me of that character from the "Mummy" remake, Benny. The one who would say or do anything so long as it benefited him.
Crazy grampa had better keep his eye on joe slick because Liebershmuck is in it for his own reasons and if the winds change midstride crazy grampa is going to find himself alone.
Of course he did not lose the presidential primary in 2006. It was a senate primary.
the only thing that makes the good senator from israel a dem is the (D) beside his name... well if i claim im god, does that make it so?
it does? great! i smite all ye republicans.
The only people who do not already admit that LIEBERMAN is an order of magnitude WORSE for the "party" than Zell Miller are the BELTWAY DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP from both CLINTONS and HARRY REID on down, including MOST of the Senate Club as well.
The BUSH/LIEBERMAN LOVE AFFAIR is one of the major sources of derision and disgust among most foreign observers of the FARCE that is AMERICAN POLITICS, as well as among rational observers here at home.
the minute he walks onto the republican convention floor he dooms himself in connecticut forevermore.
who had switched from the Democratic Party after losing the Democratic presidential primary in 2006,
It was the Democratic (CT) Senatorial primary that LIEberMAN lost in 2006 which stimulated his creation of the "CT for Lieberman" party (of 1). I break out in hives every time someone identifies him as a Dem or even an Independent Dem.
d~ (still wishing I'd verbally sparred a bit more with him when I ran into him August '06 at the library. All I did was politely say "I'm very disappointed in you, Senator Lieberman." and he got all up in my face.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/3/134316/9203/906/233014 )
MargeAggedon @ 6:
roflmao! BENNY!
This guy is such a piece of crap....he considers himself a Dem ONLY when convenient...what exactly does he do for the people of his state?
ConcernedCanuck @ 13:
does lie to them count?
Lieberman didn't switch from the Democratic Party. He created a vanity party to endorse him for his Senate run but didn't change his voter registration. There's an amusing little squabble going on with a couple of people who did change their voter registration to the "Connecticut For Lieberman" Party and are fighting for control of the party.
d~ @ 11:
*laughs* i ran into him at a town meeting in kent connecticut and i said something similar and got pretty much the same reaction. he gets pretty testy when chided even lightly. too dang bad i sez.
So, joe is just as America hating as any Republican, why shouldn't he show up at their convention? it's not like he would be welcome to the Democrats convention.
So, Go Joe, or in fact you can just Blow!
Where else would he go? Israel?
Joe Lieberman is enjoying this special attention he is receiving by doing the Benedict Arnold 4 step.........2steps forward....2steps back.
I can admire a guy who wants to be independent from party constraints, but Lieberman is being paid by Corporations to protect their interest over the interest of his constituents.
Lieberman was nearly voted out of office because he was ignoring his privilege of representing the citizens of Connecticut.
Now he is thumbing his nose at the great state of Connecticut and doing this two party dance because his notion of representation have been called to question.
Pick a side Lieberman and stop playing this game with your constituents.
Wow !! Big Joe's going to the show!! This must be the biggest thing since Beatlemania ! I wonder what he's going to do , and say ! Let's make it a pay per view !! ...........NOT.
There are 100 Senators, so why should we give a poop which convention this 1% goes to?
Yes Joe, you would be a lot more welcome just about anyplace more than you are in Westville.
Holy Joe appears determined to replace Benedict Arnold as Connecticut's most famous turncoat.
In case you're wondering, yes, Arnold felt more welcome in England after he sold out his country.
no way joe will get the veep spot. as much as us progressives hate him he is too "left wing" on stuff like choice and the environment for mccain to be able to bring him aboard. mccain will be sucking hard on the right wing nut tailpipes to try to get their support as they see him as a commie....it's all about perspective.
EDWARDS DROPS OUT
Well, let's see how the Senatorial elections come out this fall. If there is a sufficient Democratic majority, then by all means let's give Lieberman the boot and strip him of every last one of his committee memberships. Let him go running to the GOP like a scalded dog - they love him and would love to have him.
Lieberman is a neo-con as is McCain.
If St. John is elected, Kristol, Wolfie and the rest will be right back in business. It's all about what 19th century pols called empire and spheres of influence. The Middle East used to be in the Brits sphere, but they're out, so Halliburton and Israel want us in.
lee ann @ 25:
McCain/Edwards!
*I want to be a senator" so I am just going to do the selfish thing and not give a shit about you, the voters that I have defrauded...
...and then there were two.
Could Lieberman be the first VP candidate to lose twice, in different parties?
He has no intention of leaving the Democratic Party? Ummmm...Senator? You did that about 18 months ago, remember?
Did anybody notice that on MSNBC last night they had all their news/commentary people working everywhere? Even Kelly O’Donnell (is that her name?) was working the McCain headquarters. Or was it the Romney headquarters? Did you notice who was nowhere to be seen? Bowtie man. Tucker was not there!!! Was he packing up his office to make room for Rachel Maddow??
Lieberman is just playing the game to win.
Lieberman only currently retains power by caucusing with the Dems in the Senate which gives them the majority, if he went Repub now, the Senate would go 50/50 with ties being settled by Cheney, effectively making the Senate Repub controlled.
However Lieberman is acutely aware the the Dems have a good chance to gain a larger majority in 2009 and if they do, he'll lose all his committee chairmanships (all his power), so he's going all-in, playing either for VP or a large role in the Admin of the Repub candidate he thinks has the best chance to win.
Don't get me wrong, not excusing him, just explaining him. I think he's a repulsive skidmark on American politics.
I'm dissapointed Edwards didn't take his race to Super Tuesday........oh......who ever said McCain/Edwards? That was a stupid thing to say.
I think it'll be Clinton/Clark......and....Obama/Edwards
For those who are trying to determine who will be a better candidate on the environment....and are in shock today...as I am, less than one week until 'Super Tuesday'....
Clinton, Kucinich, Edwards WERE THE ONLY 3 CANDIDATES FROM BOTH PARTIES that ATTENDED THE PRESIDENTIAL FORUM ON CLIMATE CHANGE.....
Looks like I'll be backing Clinton on February 5th...RFK Jr....endorsed her back in November...and his environmental credentials speak for themselves
Ignore JoeBlow
Say what you want ablout Joe Lieberman, but you can't argue with his statement 'You can find much better'!
Who gives a shit
Lieberman is a liar, and not very good at it either.
I still don't know why Reid keeps Lieberman in a committee chair. I know the usual "we don't have a clear majority" argument, but that doesn't wash when the guy votes with the GOP on key votes anyway. Reid needs to sack up and banish Lieberman to the basement of Hart.
Time to strip Lieberman of his committee chairmanship. End this b.s. for real.
Some may say that a Lieberman defection to the RED* side "will give control of the Senate to the rePubes" but from what I understand, the composition of the committees will remain the same throughout the rest of this Congress, leaving control of committee agendas in the hands of the Democrats.
And besides, we have seen the "effectiveness" of the Dem controlled Senate in overcoming the permanent rePube fillibuster, so really, what difference would it make? (Reid sucks as Dem "leader")
I say kick him in the balls really hard so that he understands there are consequences to his lousy decision making, let him be embraced by the rePubes, the way things are going on the right side on the line he'll resign over some truly bizarre sex scandal by June.
* anyone else remember that it used to be BAD, and I mean real BAD, to be called red in this country, by the very side that describes themselves with that very same term now?
Why is this news?
ONE QUESTION HOW IS OLD JOE ABLE TO SPEAK OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF HIS MOUTH... WITH THAT ENORMOUS ELEPHANT COCK STUFFED DOWN HIS THROAT???????????.................YEARS OF PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Lieberman's presence on the 2000 democratic ticket was an expression of the power of the DLC to control the party. White christian southern males categorically blamed the influence of northern Jews as one of the prime motivators in the Civil Rights Movement.
To place a northern Jew on the presidential ticket was to immediately alienate this portion of the electorate. But, Joe-mentum has long ties to the Clintons and was one of the architects of the Democratic Party compromises of the 1990's. Cringing in fear of the conservative control of MSM propaganda PR, Democrats slowly dribbled away all the gains of the New Deal. The present housing bubble fiasco can be laid at the feet of deregulation of the banking industry. Just check out the 'Financial Services Modernization Act' of 1999. Signed into law by none other than the philanderer of fleeting fellatio. And the most amazing part is that they've always blamed Gore's Concession on Ralph Nader.
After the major dissing McCain gave him the other night, he'd have to be a masochist. I think he sees the writing on the wall for the next congress. If they pick up one to eight seats, he's toast. He only has leverage if there is status quo or pick up nine seats, neither likely.
Most likely he becomes the braying ass on the back bench until the Nutmeggers toss his ass to the curb.
Lieberman clearly hates the Democratic party ever since they dumped his ass. Any chance he gets he tries to piss on Dems.Toad face Joe is just mad because he's ugly.
To those who think Lieberman should be stripped of his chairmanships, you need to realize that making the senate 50/50 would strip the dems of the power of naming the committee chairmanships for ALL the committee's. That is a big deal. Granted the dems haven't done anything in the senate to make having those chairmanships worthwhile, they're still our only hope of anything good coming out of the senate investigation-wise. What would probably happen is Dems and Repubs would name co-chairs to each committee and nothing would ever get done.
Strange judgement. Sounds like someone who would buy a ticket on the Titanic after the iceberg collision.
They need a fluffer at the podium...Voila! LieberLips!
Our best hope (and best chance of actually happening) is dems win the presidency, and pick up a larger majority in the senate, thus stripping him of his chairmanships and having no place to go in the whitehouse. Spending the remainder of his term with no power or authority until he loses his next election (assuming he'd even run again) easily due to his dem backstabbing.
This is what Joe fears.
Once a Loserman, always a Loserman.
They've got somethng on him that he's afraid they'll expose. Either he's having sex with a hooker, a gay hooker or a barnyard animal.
One day, some guy comes to him and says:
"Joe, watch this tape. From now on, everything you say or do will be run on republican talking points. You'll eat, sleep and breathe a right wing view of things from now on or we'll drop this off at a big media outlet for all to see. Now, you'll never see me again in your life; I'll vanish into the world like a rain drop landing in the ocean. This is your one warning, either do what we say or prepare yourself for damnation."
The mysterious stranger turns and heads for the door. As he gets prepares to step out, he turns slightly and say with a grin on his face says "Personally, I hope you do fuck up cause I'd love to see you commit certain suicide." And with a laugh that would please the devil, he stepped out and was never seen again.
Filthy Harry @ 49:
From my understanding the chairmanships are set for this congress, that they would remain "as is" even if Joe defected. I have no link to support this contention other than a vague memory from previous discussions on this topic from early 2007 I believe.
That said, I think its fairly safe to say there will be no resolution of any investigation into this administration when subpeaona (SP?) powers are blantantly ignored and non-responses to requests for information are the order of the day.
I'm just wondering; You do know that Lieberman isn't a Democrat anymore, don't you? You keep talking like he's betraying the Democratic Party, which he can't, since he's no longer part of it.
I hope he does, it's where he belongs and it might result in the eventual election of another Democratic senator from CN.
Lieberman is a lamprey, feeding off the bacteria and dead skin of any bigger fish around, he just happens to be sucking on McCain's backside right now but there are always other fish for Joe to suck.
Joe Lieberman is and always has been an unlikeable Elmer Fudd of a senator - doesn't anyone remember his holier-than-thou stance during the Republican-created Lewinsky "scandal"? Yes, he is a once and future joke on the foolish people of Connecticut, but at least his relevance is on the slow track to complete oblivion.
“I don’t have any intention of leaving the Democratic Party,” he said. “I want to be a senator.”
I hate to break it to you Joe but you have already left -- the Democratic Party chose Ned Lamont as their candidate. You ran against him in a primary and lost so you threw a little tantrum and switched parties garnering 70% of the Republican vote. In return, the republicans got your gratitude and support. Remember?
Again, it begs the question: Why is he even ALLOWED to caucus with the Dems, much less have his senior possitions on commities?!?
What a slimey POS. Harry Reid should be kicked squarely in the balls for letting him sit on any committee, much less chairing one.
Hope McCain does put Lieberschmuck on the ticket -- it'll doom McCain. Joey has the loser's stink all over him. Plus turnout among the wingnut base will be low because McCain isn't a born againer and Joe is... a JEW!
Tazed Silence @ 55:
You could be right, but I think when that one senator from Vermont went Indy and changed the senate to 50/50 briefly didnt there was talk about the committee chairmanships and changes, etc. But not sure when. Either way, you're right nothing will happen BUT from a truly calculating point of view, its nice to know that repubs are limited in their ability to use the congress to help their candidates :)
Marcus Aurelius @ 18:
I seriously doubt that they want him.
They seem to have their own problems without importing ours.
Phuck him, move on... Barring more voting machines anomalies and other election surprises, he won't be needed or missed.
Why do people care about partisanship so much? If I CALL myself a Republican but vote as a left winger what the hell does it matter to someone who is an ideological conservative and is a Republican as a result? If Lieberman is voting in ways that are against your interests and in opposition to your basic morals & beliefs it doesn't matter what party he is in. I'm sorry, if someone steals money from you and represents interests that are at odds with yours their party affiliation is the last thing you need to worry about. If the Senate was 50/50 and essentially Republican controlled it wouldn't change the way people vote on and create bills. It's the ideology and the actions of the politician that matter most, not what hat they’re wearing.
What a turncoat. I haven't seen Liberman in while. He's probably to busy hanging with his neo-con pals. What a waste!
mr liar lieberman is NOT A DEMOCRAT, he is a repug
thru and thru.
obama will be joe's honorary guest.
Maybe Joe and Zig Zag Zell will give speeches this year.
Sorry but Connecticut has some really stupid people to elect Joe.
Agreed. Many folks have been betting on this for months.
I think Lieberman would be more likely to go VP if McCain has a solid chance of winning. Let's see this one.
"The Connecticut independent, who had switched from the Democratic Party after losing the Democratic presidential primary in 2006,"
You got that wrong. Lieberman created his own party, Connecticut for Lieberman party, after losing the Democratic nomination to be re-elected as senator to Ned Lamont.
He should really go all the way and switch to Rethugnican. He's only courted by Democrats because of the razor thin majority in the Senate. Go Rethugnican and lose your chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Joe. He already broke a campaign promise to investigate Bush regarding Katrina - Joe just flatly refused to investigate his pal GWB.
Yeah. Go to the GOP convention. Show them your "qualities". And btw? You ALREADY LEFT the Democratic Party, you putz.
Geez.
Pepper @ 67: I agree to a point, but I'm not sure who exactly you're responding to, and this seems to be just a matter of semantics. The question is whether, say, a liberal Republican votes and maneuvers with the liberal Dems or with the Republicans, and even a more liberal-leaning Republican like Senator Chaffee was bullied into lockstep with the GOP leadership plenty of times. Partisanship matters a great deal when we have a situation like the present one in Congress, where Bush and the GOP are unrelentingly obstructionist. You can also go back to Gingrich and see that same thing. It's fruitless for the Dems to play "bipartisan" when the GOP is playing extreme partisanship, and has done so for over 16 years, at least. Rove, Norquist, Delay, Abramoff, Cheney and the gang have tried to destroy the Democratic Party, create a permanent majority (50% +1, the K Street Project, etc.) and have ignored a good half of the electorate (up to about 70% now on Iraq). Rove and Norquist especially haven't made a secret of it. They've said it openly, and have been praised by suck-ups like Mark Halperin for it. These aren't good faith actors. Their policies are bad and their tactics are worse.
The entire point Lieberman was so unpopular with liberals when he was officially a Democrat was because he consistently sided with conservative, authoritarian warmongers (not to mention anti-choice measures on reproductive freedom). Lieberman's been unpopular with liberals because of his ideology, not because of partisanship. Even when Lieberman's been called a "traitor to his party," it's been for substantive reasons.
There's no probably about it.
I understand what you’re saying but the damage that someone like Lieberman does to the Democrats (more accurately to the left since the Democrats have shown that they’re at best moderate corporatists) is just as bad if not worse than from the outside. If Lieberman, for instance, switches parties and votes the same way he will be going in the opposite direction of the public on issues and will be doing so at a time when calls for change are at their height. People want certain policies that his move would make harder to get into law. So I don’t think it would hurt the Democrats in the long run and I don’t think it would help the entrenched elites who don’t want the gravy train to stop for him to switch parties. He’s still the same Israeli owned right wing politician, if he happens to do his damage from the outside the Democratic Party (more accurately the left) the only thing that would change would be the means to that destruction.
He has so sold out. He may as well go to the dark side and get it over with.
How does this schmuck keep getting elected? What the hell is wrong with Connecticut?
"Thanks, John, I’ve been there, I’ve done that. You can find much better"
In other words, if McCain asked Lieberman to be his running mate, Lieberman would decline NOT because it's a Republican ticket, but simply because he's not up for the job?
“I’d probably be more welcome there”...
Not near as welcome as he would be at a Mossad party.
How is this the least bit surprising?
One thing is hopeful in regards to Joey. He can be the loser VP on THIS ticket too.
Can't wait till the day after the election, when the Dems will have enough seats to kiss Lieberman goodbye once and for all. What a piece of work.
Oh, yea... good move, McCain! That'll get you, fer sure, one more vote... Leiberman's.
The fact that Liberman can run against his parties senate candidate, then endorse the opposition party candidate for President and remain a Democrat, says all one needs to know about the values of the Democratic Party.
Can't Pelosi or Reid do something about him? Oh, wait....nevermind.
is it normal for me to hate Lieberman more than other Republicans?
Huckabee is an angel next to Lieberman
the repubs are what they are, there is no pretense of them being something other than what they are. in the case of elmer fudd, the (put in your own expletive here, they all apply) he must feel that he is stil fooling some or most of the people. I don't underestimate the intellect of the american people so he probably is fooling most of them still. Please allow him to switch parties and make it official.
more importantly, let me state once again, in the dem debates, each of the candidates should be asked how they stand on lieberman now. do they see him as a turncoat, a mealymouthed traitor to te democratic party or will they say the politically correct statement about the service this great statesman has given in the past. let's bare hillary and obama and see what makes them tick. i want to know what kind of president we're going to have for at least the next four years and this one question will pretty much tell all.
Joe Lieberman torpedoed the Democratic ticket in 2000. Republicans never had a more effective saboteur in the enemy camp.
I wish Elmer Fudd Lieberman would make it official and join the Republican party or more appropriately become a citizen of Israel and run for office there . The friggin weasel should have been kicked out of the Democratic party when he lost to Lamont and went independent .
Everyone has it all wrong. Droopy Dog is neither a Repug or a Democrat. He is a proud card carrying member of the Likud party. His allegiance has never been with this country or it's people.
YES Joe, John McCain could throw a dead cat and hit 10 people "much better" than you are. And even though the Repugs would hold their noses and allow you into the convention, they would still make you use the service entrance.
Lieberman also told the AP that his endorsement of McCain isn’t a step toward switching to the Republican Party. “I don’t have any intention of leaving the Democratic Party,” he said. “I want to be a senator.”
Uhhh It was my recollection that he did leave the democratic party to run as an independent. Correct me if I am wrong. I really wish the republican nominee would pick Lieberman as their running mate. Anyone who watched him lazily campaign with his wife in 2000 knows that would be a deathnell for anyone that picks him to run with.
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