Why neocons embrace McCain
Why is the neocon crowd so excited about the Arizona senator? Max Boot, an unpaid foreign policy advisor to the McCain campaign, explains.
It is hard to see how Bush could reverse this decline in America's "fear factor" during the remaining year of his presidency. That will be the job of the next president. And who would be the most up to the task?
To answer that question, ask yourself which presidential candidate an Ahmadinejad, Assad or Kim would fear the most. I submit it is not Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama or Mike Huckabee. In my (admittedly biased) opinion, the leading candidate to scare the snot out of our enemies is a certain former aviator who has been noted for his pugnacity and his unwavering support of the American war effort in Iraq.
Kevin makes quick work of Boot’s painful perspective.
There you have it. If you think the most important aspect of a president is the ability to “scare the snot out of our enemies,” then McCain’s your guy.
Now, you might think that after seven years of trying exactly this, with only the current collapse in our fortunes to show for it, the neocon establishment might at least pause for a moment to wonder if there’s more to foreign policy than scaring the snot out of our enemies. But no. The real problem, apparently, is simply that the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld administration wasn’t good enough at it. Not bellicose enough. Not unilateral enough. Not warlike enough. What America needs is someone even more bloodthirsty than the crew that got us into this mess. Time to double down, folks.
This, in a nutshell, is what McCain is offering by way of a foreign policy.
FILTHY
McPain/Cheney ticket? Is that legal?
Yikes!!
enor @ 2:
"We shall make it legal"
Fear is what it's all about. Murkins are such pussies. It doesn't take courage to bomb someone from 20,000 feet.
FOUR MORE WARS !!!
FOUR MORE WARS !!!
Funny how that logic only works for leaders in this country. If it is applied to leaders of other countries....
I suppose that this may be the first corollary to IOKIYAR: IOKIYARPOTUS
enor @ 2:
LOLOLOL! You can't MAKE this shit up.
Ya gotta love these jerkoffs.
Even the nuttiest of wingnuts will climb off their cousin long enuf to vote for that ticket.
Neo-Cons will support anyone who claims we will probably have
to stay in Iraq for 100 years. Shit like that gives them a woody.
The main reason the NeoConZionists love McCain, is that when they see him, he looks exactly like their own circumcized dicks, and they immediately identify, and want to make love with him, as they do their dicks.
If this guy is prez I'm outta here.
I wish the wingnut freakshow would make up its mind whether Assad is an evil, dangerous dictator, or someone they are happy to send prisoners to for 'enhanced interrogation'.
Can't have it both ways, dickheads.
Yeah, the world needs us to have a leader that they believe is a threat to them.
We need a President that acts like a drunk coming off a heroin high, looking for a fight.
Maybe if we stop doing things that piss people off, we wouldn't need a leader to "scare the snot" out of other countries.
But I do think it would make a great campaign slogan for McCain. Elect me because I scare the snot out of people.
See how catchy that is?
Liberal AND Proud @ 8:
When you mean "these" you really mean: "those".
eh... it was a joke.
Vote McCain to "bomb bomb bomb Iran"...
As Buchanon warned, McInsane would be like Bush on steroids. America must reject him and his traitorous neocon ideas.
Weaseldog @ 13:
Right On! I mean, look how Chavez acts, after Exxon/Mobil "scared the snot" out of him?? Er...wait a minute, I...that is...
We should demand a leader who can scare the shit out of other people. Snot just doesn't cut it.
Yes, that's a snark
enor @ 15:
Wouldn't it be a hoot if the one funeral Dick Cheney attended as VEEP was his own! LOL!
So Neocons like McCain, but the Wingnut bloggers will never be convinced (Pam, Ace, Jonah, Hugh, Confederate, etc.). They want all muslim countries nuked NOW!!!! Damn that McCain won't give them what they want.
After McCain chases UBL to the gates of hell and "gets him" because he says he knows how to do it, who is he going to need to scare then?
McCain repeats over and over that he knows how to get UBL, so why, over these past six or seven years, hasn't he shared that plan with the pentagon?
Good analysis. I guess we'll find out in November how many Neo-cons there are out there ready to run around the world kicking ass while American bleeds.
Why neocons embrace McCain
To pick his pocket with one hand
And stick a shiv in his back with the other?
The enemies he refers to have known this trick for years, the "scaring the snot" out of people as your main approach.
It's called "terrorism".
Being a afraid of McLame is like being afraid of the angry old man in the neighborhood who yells at kids, in his robe, for being on his lawn.
Yeah, Putin is terrified and so is Kim Jong "I'll stop my nuke program when I damn well want to" Ill and also if you believe the hyperventilating about the great Iranian Swift Boat Attacks of 2008, Ahmadinejad aint buying into the fear mongering shit either.
As a matter of fact, the US has been unable to do what Saddam and the Taliban were able to do in their own respective lands. Wasn't it these same foreign policy mavens that thought Russia's inability to pacify Afghanistan made them look like a paper tiger?
-GSD
Great attitude towards foreign relations. How about the first act of the new president, assuming it's McCain, is to NUKE somebody. Doesn't matter who, just throw a dart at a map of the middle east. That'll put the fear in 'em.
herr dubyah invaded two countries and yet Ahmadinejad, Assad or Kim are still not afraid. Why are reich-wingers so obsessed with that the entire world should quack at the feet of the US?
LOL! Did anyone see McCain's speech last night?
Unless the Zombie army scares the terrorist, he's got nothing.
Obama picks Biden or Clark, and they just explain that
Bush has basically DESTROYED our military capability, so
even IF St. John wants to pick a fight, we are so hamstrung
and stretched thin.....
Look, Bill Kristol and the rest of the "Fight the wars for Israel"
crowd is going to push McCain, but, so what?
Obama started last night, he's going to corner McCain, stick
him between "100 Years" and Flip-flopping on the Bush Tax Cuts.
and ask him:
Isn't ONE trillion dollar war enough, John?
When will Rush, Hannity, et el, get the memo to stop trashing McPain?
(Then I will know it is official that the neocons are supporting him.)
he he he well i finally got it from one of the repigs mouth , the repukes are voteing for obama by the droves figureing mccinsane can beat a black candidate they must know something , hey i dont make the news i just report it, the words going around to the repig party faithfull vote for obama in the primarys then mccsnain in the general !
frank bonas jr @ 28:
I forget to mention that McCain could get it there himself, if he still remembers how to fly a plane. He could even have Bush get his old flight suit out and accompany him for the adrenaline rush.
If a McCain/Neocon ticket becomes a reality 'merica (as Bush put's it) is finished: discount the wasteful blood and treasure part of the 'war on terror' abroad, the immmorality of our own people will make outside Bin Ladens meaningless..............terrorism will become a homegrown activity right here in the good old USA! Imagine 8 more years of THIS shit.................
If you have "liked Bush," so far, then you will just "love John McCain." By the way, Nicole, McCain in 2000 was the favorite of the neocons, and Matt Welch has written a fabulous book: "McCain: Myth of a Maverick."
On another very sad note in the ever-increasing military-police state here in the United States of America:
Police dump quadriplegic from wheelchair
Run time: 02:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYMKyJRAabE
Posted on YouTube: February 12, 2008
Again folks, we need less neocon nutjobs or the likes of neocon hatchet men, such as John McCain running the United States of America.
Egad. Yeah...a filthy, selfish old fart that doesn't have many years left and therefore gains nothing from a lasting peace nor loses anything with everlasting war wants to be the next "war" preznit (still drives me crazy that nobody call Bushbaby on calling himself a war president. It's "wartime president"; a president who just happened to have held office at a time of war. That nitwit either got it backwards, which is most likely since he has a fourth grade, action movie-esque vocabulary or he really does know what he is a bloodthirsty warmonger).
You know what? McCain is perfect. He certainly represents the image that our politicians have cultivated for several years now:
Selfish, mean-spirited, imperialistic, short-sighted, deluded, cowardly cowboys. (or is even THAT old news? Checking history...yeah, seems that way...but at any rate)
Let him win! Blow it all up! Bankrupt the nation! Take away all freedom of speech, movement and anything else we take for granted right now!! Turn the Middle East into glass with our newkuler wipp'ns! Then start bitching an moaning when the radioactive cloud reaches our shores and fucks with the paint jobs on our gas-guzzling SUV's! Yeah! Bomb bomb bomb Iran!!! Yeeeehawwww!
/cathartic rant
no health care for you but more neocon wars.
enor @ 31:
Rush Limbaugh explains himself (in full) here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCUg4-COnXI
the must succinct explanation I've heard to date.
max h @ 38:
Priceless! :)
ysbaddaden @ 24:
Or maybe for a cheap reacharound.
max h @ 38:
That cleared it up for me, thanks. E
Well that's an easy one . . . because he is a certifiable nutcase just like them.
Just anonther of the growing number of reasons that the GOP are going to get their ass handed to them come November.
Weekend Edition
February 8 / 10, 2008
Here Come the Brownshirts, Again
Does the Republican Party Have Aces Up Its Sleeves?
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
The Brownshirt Party has chosen John "hundred year war" McCain as its presidential candidate. Except for Cheney, Norman Podhoretz, and Billy Kristol, McCain is America's greatest warmonger....In a McCain Regime, Cheney will be back in office with another stint as Secretary of War. Norman "Bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran" Podhoretz will be Undersecretary for Nuclear War with General John "Nuke them" Shalikashvili as his deputy. Rudy Giuliani will be the Minister of Interior in charge of Halliburton's detention centers into which will be herded all critics of war and the police state. Billy kristol will be chief White House spokesliar.
The whole gang will be back--Wolfowitz, Perle, Wurmster, Feith, Libby, Bolton. America will have a second chance to bomb the world into submission....With the majority of voters sick of war, sick of lies, sick of fraud from the Federal Reserve and Wall Street, and sick of stagnant and falling incomes, McCain is poised to capture 20 per cent of the vote--the Christian Zionists, the rapture evangelicals, and the diehard macho flag-waving thugs who believe America is done for unless "Islamofacists" are exterminated....The accumulated lies, deceptions, war crimes, the shame of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo prisons, Bush's police state assault on civil liberty, countless numbers of Iraqi and Afghan men, women, and children murdered for the sake of American and Israeli hegemony, and the collapsing US economy indicate a political wipeout for the Brownshirt Party. In a country with an informed and humane population, the Republican Party would be reduced to such a small minority that it could never recover....
The Democrats are far from pure, but they lack the fervor and determination that only ideology can provide. The Democrats might have issue-specific ideologies, but they lack an over-arching ideology that makes it imperative for them, and only them, to be in power....In contrast, the Brownshirt Party is fueled by the neocon ideology of American (and Israeli) supremacy. The neocon ideology of supremacy is more far-reaching than Hitler's. Hitler merely aimed for sway over Europe and Russia. The neocons have targeted the entire world....Neocons have prepared plans for war against China. They are ringing Russia with military facilities and paying millions of dollars to leaders of former constituent parts of the Soviet Union to sign up with NATO, which the neocons have turned into a mechanism for drafting Europeans to serve American Empire.
Read the entire article @:
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02082008.html
If you've ever seen Max Boot speaking on TV, there's just three words to describe him: "Fab-U-Lous", from "In Living Color".
While McCain tries to scare the snot out of the world, Senator Whitehouse of RI just gave an amazing speech on the floor of the senate about waterboarding. He laid out nicely all the reasons why it was insane or criminal for anyone to have ever believed it was legal. He cited a case right here in the US where a sheriff and two cops were found guilty for waterboarding a prisoner from whom they were trying to get information. Then he cited the WWII cases we brought against the enemy for using waterboarding. It was a hell of an intelligent and passionate speech
Max Boot is my favorite neocon.
Back when I worked on the op-ed page of a newspaper, my boss would insist that I run conservative opinion pieces to balance our editorial board's "liberal" slant. I was always happy to run Boot's stuff -- he consistently provided the unvarnished, scary-as-hell neocon perspective. In fact, he was so brutally candid about the real neocon agenda, we actually had conservatives call in to complain about it.
Heh, heh.
By mistake I wrote "...get their ass handed to them..." as singular and oddly enough it works out perfectly. The GOP, in their collective mindset, are just one big ass these days.
enor @ 31:
Rove uses the Art of War playbook.
When you attack, make it look like you're defending.
When you're defending make it look like you're attacking.
Never expose your true objective, always make your opponent think your goals are something else.
Rove once said that he had his henchmen go after Kerry in 2004, because he wanted the Dems to rally around him. He argued that Edwards would be a tougher opponent to beat if he got the full support of the party.
So Rush and the rest are likely pretending to go after McCain in order to garner sympathy for him.
McCain would be GWBs third term.
He is from the OLD way of thinking with all that toughguy talk of war and fear and mucus.
The majority have spoken and want change.McCain wants to live in the past while we all stay the course.
He is so out of touch he probably thinks we can actually go to war with Iran with the military we have not the military he wished we had.
This is why he cannot win no matter which Dem he runs against.
Do NOT forget it was McCain who wanted to "surrender" when Clinton was "wagging the dog" trying to fight terrorists abroad so we wouln't have to fight them here.
BUT the surge is working...RIGHT?
McCain scares the snot of of me too.
So does this include overthrowing Iran's government again? It's been over 50 years since our government has done it. It's 'bout time.
I'm tellin' ya.... this is why McCain is winning! Neocons love war, torture, and authoritarian government, and that's what he's promised them. Who knows if he'd actually deliver. I think he's held more simultaneous views on issues than Hillary Clinton has. The debate I'd like to see is McCain 2000 vs. McCain 2008. Now THAT would be a debate!
The candidates are either:
1) Running for their corporate masters, lobbyists, war profiteers and will continue the criminal coverup.
OR
2) Running to support the Voices of the American People, Honor and Justice
Bush = Criminal Coverup
McCain = Bush
Bush = McCain
the bush and gop way to secure America
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and if this does not work then---
bang your head on the wall, bang your head on the wall, bang your head on the wall.
When did job one of the presidency become bogeyman in chief? And who is the president supposed to be scaring? Ahmadinejad? He doesn't look scared to me. Kim Jong Il? Ditto. The only people scared by the current president is the American public, what with terror alerts and mushroom clouds and the collapse of the American dollar. The rest of the world maybe shocked or angry or deeply disappointed, but it is not scared.
Ian McGarrett @ 55:
When you talk like that the terrorist win. Like when Mitt stays around too long.
See, the only way to truely BEAT the terrorists is to be very very afraid of them and under no circumstances should you go after them if attacked but quickly attack some other neutral country instead.
If they beat up on you too long invade the next nearest county!
Its all elementary if you understand the military.
Liberal AND Proud @ 40:
Not young enough.
Something McBush and the
RNCRNO needs to worry about.There apears to be less NEOCONS in
the Common Wealth of Virgina
Obama 623,141
Rodham 347,252
total 970,393
McBush 244,135
Huckano 198,247
Paul 22,056
RomBush 17,532
total 481,970
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#VA
And look at those totals....
Gee, is "The Prince" the only book that neocons read?
What they fail to explain is how, exactly, does a "fear-based" foreign policy serve the needs of the United States? Has our agressive, with-or-without-you approach done us more good than harm?
We need a uniter, not a divider!! No, I mean, really. Not the "Dubya" style of "uniter". No... not the one who unites our enemies against us. We need a REAL LEADER who can bring the world together in the fight against Al Qaeda. We need a REAL LEADER who can actually, well, lead!
It's sad to think that a man locked into a cycle of violence is getting such attention from the corporate media as a potential president. But then again, it is slim pickens over there on the crazy right wing side.
McCain's cycle of violence may have started early in life, and was further defined by his 'Sky Pilot' days (and he will never never touch the sky), and then further twisted by his torture as a prisoner.
Now what? How will this writhing battered victimizer and victim act out his fantasies of revenge and violence? Where will his rage go if given the power to atomize whole cultures and doom our youth to the same cycle of violence that is consuming him and that he is doomed to live out?
This guy doesn't need an oval office as much as a rubber room.
We've tried "stupid and lazy"
Let's try "old and crazy"
The Smiths - Expose the Crooks @ 58:
What I found was the voting age eligible to vote in Virginia is 5,534,825. Total votes for candidates? 1,452,363......that means over 4 million minimum did NOT take part in this primary. Don't count chickens before they hatch.
February 13, 2008
The Monster That Wouldn't Die
Why the neocons endure
By Justin Raimondo
www.antiwar.com
As the ugly reality of what we had gotten ourselves into in Iraq settled on the national consciousness, like a viral infection settling on the lungs, the conventional wisdom was that the authors of this war – the political tendency known as the neoconservatives – were utterly and completely discredited. Where were the "weapons of mass destruction"? Where were the crowds of Iraqis throwing rose petals in our wake? Where was the cakewalk? And – most of all – where were the friggin' neocons, anyway? Most were in hiding, having resigned and slunk back to academia or some neocon "think tank"; very few were in the line of fire. They left that one for the troops.
Suddenly, once-ubiquitous figures such as Richard Perle, James Woolsey, and Kenneth Adelman, who had made the television talking-heads circuit pretty regularly in the run-up to war, were nowhere to be seen. The neocons vanished from the corridors of power or else took cover in unlighted alcoves. Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Perle, and a large number of their retainers left government or – like Scooter Libby and Larry Franklin – were indicted....The neocons, we were told, had been "marginalized," and their dreams of "benevolent global hegemony" were pronounced dead. Yet, not much more than a year later, the beast has reawakened; the corpse is animate. Frankenstein lives! As Jacob Heilbrunn, a senior editor at The National Interest, a former neocon himself, and author of They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons, put it the other day, the idea that the neoconservatives are finished "could be the biggest whopper of them all." With the "surge" in place, its ostensible success having placated the mainstream media (if not the American public), "the neocons are already claiming vindication," avers Heilbrunn. And they're flocking to John McCain's presidential bid, which seems to have escaped any opprobrium on account of his pro-war position simply because the mainstream media have resumed their love affair with the conductor of the "Straight Talk Express." And so have the neocons: Heilbrunn refers to McCain as "the neocons' hero," as well he ought to be. He is, after all, the perfect exemplar of militarism, American-style. With McCain in the White House, it will be just like old times again, only better. Don't forget that McCain was one of Ahmed Chalabi's biggest backers and openly campaigned, during the Clinton administration, to put the Iraqi fraudster on the American payroll....
The Weekly Standard became McCain's Pravda, and he began consulting regularly with Bill Kristol, who soon became a close adviser. Neocons Marshall Wittmann and Daniel McKivergan – two close friends of Kristol's – were hired by McCain, and the former became one of his top advisers during the presidential campaign....The neocons, having destroyed the presidency of George W. Bush, have already found another willing host, and they are primed and ready for another go. As Heilbrunn knowingly, and somewhat wearily, puts it:
Read the entire article @:
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12358
Of all his victories, McCain has won a majority of veteran votes in only one: Virginia. And that with just 51%. Is there a monolothic vets vote for Old John? No way. Many of us vets have done more with our time than just hang out at the VFW bar telling war stories. We've read. And know what the NeoCon agenda is doing to our military.
Anyway, thanks go to GW Bush for having destroyed the Republican Party along with the readiness of our military. The military/industrial complex will miss him....unless McCain gets elected, that is.
dont you know they got everything rigged , the elections fixed its in the bag, they aint gone to all that work just to let a silly election get in the way, these droids are going nowhere !
John McCain is a Neocon folks....
Spread this news...........
Want more neocon wars and more neocon economic downward spirals then.............
John McCain the neocon guy is your main man!
Don't be so damn stupid and make sure you wake up before its too late!!!!!!!!!
McCain is a neocon war-monger who will further bankrupt America with more and more military buildups and expenditure and will really threaten the security of America by an economic collapse. The neocons are bankrupting the American economy with their military economy. The neocons are anti-freedom and anti-liberty as they further make America into a military-police state.
Hello media?? Did you know that Ron Paul is still running??!! He’s better than McCain and Huckabee combined! Not to mention, he’s the only Republican who stands a chance against Obama or Clinton.
ConcernedCanuck @ 62:
Exactly. The primary turnouts are not necessarily indicative of what will happen in the general election.
All this juvenile taunting and premature gloating over "McBush" being slaughtered in the general election will actually work against the Democratic nominee if too many people to buy into it. Ask any campaign manager or political strategist, that overconfident feeling can turn many a "likely voter" into a "no show" on election day, because, similar to the persistent apathy in the American electorate, it gets people thinking their vote doesn't really matter.
Weekend Edition
February 8 / 10, 2008
Is Dennis Kucinich Being McKinney'd?
Get Kucinich
By KEVIN ZEESE
On the Hill some call it being McKinney'd--the treatment Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney received when she was in Congress. Twice, rather than protecting the incumbent, the Democrats put up well funded challengers against her. Now, it looks like Dennis Kucinich may be facing the same treatment in Cleveland.
There is a report circulating the web that before the Nevada primary Kucinich was visited by representatives of Nancy Pelosi and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the right wing Israeli lobby. They told him that if he would drop his campaigns to impeach Cheney and Bush, they would guarantee his re-election to the House of Representatives. Kucinich threw them out of his office....Kucinich has aggressively challenged the Democratic Party leadership in Congress and on the presidential campaign trail on the issues of war, civil liberties, impeachment and big business control of government. He's even refused to pledge to endorse the party's presidential nominee....The Democratic leadership has insisted that impeachment was off the table since taking control of the House in 2006. Congressman Conyers, Chair of the Judiciary Committee, has even refused to investigate whether President Bush and Vice President Cheney have violated the law. But Kucinich pushed the issue. He introduced articles of impeachment against Cheney, then against Bush and he brought the issue up on the House floor. He pushed and pushed to try to make sure the president and vice president were not above the law....On the campaign trail he didn't let Senator Clinton or Obama get away with campaign peace rhetoric in the Democratic primary while they voted war funding with no strings attached in the senate. He pointed out that their rhetoric was not consistent with their actions. He pushed the issue of all troops being removed; while Obama and Clinton parse their words carefully making it clear they will withdraw only some of the troops and neither promising a complete troop withdrawal even by 2012....And he pierced the veil of campaign rhetoric of Democrats who call for "universal health care" but put forward plans that will enrich their donors in the private health insurance industry....
On issue after issue Kucinich pushed against the Democratic Party leadership--now, it seems he is paying a price....
Read the entire article @:
http://www.counterpunch.org/zeese02082008.html
Kucinich throws reps from Nancy Pelosi and AIPAC out of his office
Before the Nevada primary, [Presidential candidate] Dennis [Kucinich] was visited by representatives of Nancy Pelosi and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee — AIPAC. They told Dennis that if he would drop his campaigns to impeach Cheney and Bush, they would guarantee his re-election to the House of Representatives. Kucinich threw them out of his office.
Dennis now faces the toughest election campaign of his entire tenure in congress, with huge amounts of money being spent to turn his constituents against him due to "his neglect of his district while he ran for president."
Read the rest @:
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2008/02/371899.shtml
McCain? The mumbly-mouthed bald old neocon? Who gets scared by him? I've never heard him make a passionate speech (or said anything profound) in his entire life.
that @ 71:
he never mentioned DIEBOLD?
Mr. XXXX @ 70:
Okay, it's bad enough that you linked to two stories that are, well, one story, But you compounded the problem by linking two stories that are completely unsourced.
Hear the one about Obama is a secret muslim, or the one that Obama belongs to an African Nationalist church? You know what they've got in common with your links? They're also unsourced.
Bombs away. If McCain gets anywhere near the White House office Al Quaeda will not just be in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Al Quaeda will also be in Caracas, Bolivia, Columbia, Kisangani, the siberian oil fields, Kazakhstan, Aceh, the Straits of Mallacca, and probably Paris, Oakland, and Topanga too (and a zip code near you.)
Mr. XXXX @ 35:
UPDATE HERE:
Police suspended for wheelchair dumping
Fla. Deputies Suspended After Purposely Tipping Quadriplegic Man Out of Chair
AP News Staff
Feb 12, 2008 23:19 EST
Four Hillsborough County sheriff's deputies have been suspended after purposely tipping a quadriplegic man out of his wheelchair at a jail, authorities said Tuesday.
Orient Road Jail surveillance footage from Jan. 29 shows veteran deputy Charlette Marshall-Jones, 44, dumping Brian Sterner out of his wheelchair and searching him on the floor after he was brought in on a warrant after a traffic violation...Sterner said when he was taken into a booking room and told to stand up, Jones grew agitated when he told her that he could not. "She was irked that I wasn't complying to what she was telling me to do," he told The Tampa Tribune. "It didn't register with her that she was asking me to do something I can't do."
Jones has been suspended without pay, and Sgt. Gary Hinson, 51, Cpl. Steven Dickey, 45 and Cpl. Decondra Williams, 36 have also been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation, sheriff's spokeswoman Debbie Carter said...."The actions are indefensible at every level," Chief Deputy Jose Docobo said. "Based on what I saw, anything short of dismissal would be inappropriate."
He said the officers' actions were an aberration....
A warrant for Sterner's arrest was issued after an Oct. 25 incident, in which Tampa police stopped him in Ybor City. He was stopped while driving a Mini Cooper that had been fitted with hand pedals and was cited for blocking an intersection..."My client was stopped that night and was given a traffic citation, so how could he be fleeing and eluding?" Sterner's lawyer John Trevena said. "We're very skeptical about the basis for the charge itself."
Read more @:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Police_suspended_for_wheelchair_dum...
Andy K @ 73:
KEVIN ZEESE continues:
In Cleveland, Kucinich is being challenged by several candidates. The one that is getting the most attention and funding is City Councilman Joe Cimperman. He's served on the council for ten years and has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from real estate interests to challenge Kucinich. He's been saying that Kucinich focuses too much on campaigning for president and not on the district. The Mayor of Cleveland and the Cleveland Plain Dealer has endorsed Cimperman.
Kucinich, who has been focused on the presidential campaign, has very little money in the bank (reportedly only about $30,000). He's been putting out fundraising appeals (see, e.g., http://www.youtube.com/) and has a fundraiser planned with Sean Penn.
Mr. XXXX @ 76:
Hey, I'm not going to argue that Kucinich is in it deep now. Politicians make enemies. But he has tilted at the windmill twice in the last four or five years, so some of his constituency is going to be a bit disappointed in their Representative. But this unsourced article (and you've got to admit that one of those links is borrowing heavily from the other, or they share a feed anyway- it's one story, same "investigation"...) looks to me like the foundation for an excuse if DK loses his party's nomination in the primaries.
And it matters that this story is unsourced. Is Kucinich the person that told the press this story, or was it an "anonymous Kucinich campaign worker"? Is some guy who blogs in his underwear from Peoria the source? What's the motivation?
Andy K @ 77:
Dude---Relax, okay?
I do not disagree with your sentiments. I agree that the article is flimsy.
But do I put it past Nancy Pelosi or AIPAC to do such things? NO. AIPAC puts continuous pressure on candidates and has their favorite candidates as well. This does not mean that in the Kucinich case they sent anyone to "threaten" his campaign. I do not believe things are done that obvious or contemptuous in the political realm. Things are done in a much more subtle tone in politics. Like giving your opponent more money to beat you. Things like that. So, no, I do not believe that any one individual of Pelosi or AIPAC's offices were necessarily dispatched to go and give Dennis Kucinich a Mafia-like sit-down and tell him his time is now up. Situations are less overt then the media and the TV will have it portrayed.
So, no, I agree with you. Nobody from Pelosi or AIPAC's offices had a sit-down session with Kucinich telling him his time was over in the Congress. But the mere fact that a once popular candidate is facing stiff competition should come as no real big surprise when Kucinich is not falling in line with the likes of Pelosi and her political allies.
Robert Wexler who has also called for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney is facing a similar re-election primary as well. I am sure Pelosi and her political allies are not to fond of Wexler's positions on the impeachment of Bush and Cheney and his criticism of the war policies of this administration either.
AIPAC, by the way, did run candidates against Cynthia McKinney and that is documented. That does not mean that AIPAC or Pelosi had a sit-down session with Kucinich to "threaten" his reelection bid in 2008.
He's certainly scaring the snot out of you friends.
Jim in Canada
Mr. XXXX @ 78:
First, I think that this is the kind of heavyhanded shit that AIPAC can and does do. Second, I do put this behavior beyond Pelosi. Not her style. And a more likely Dem party insider to do this kind of shit is Rahm Emanuel- and he and Pelosi aren't the best of friends.
But because the second part seems unlikely, I'd need some sourcing- the less anonymous the better- to believe any of it. As it stands, this "story" is one small step above Repug chain letters on the professional ladder. It's nothing but a rumor.
McCain has long been AIPAC's #1 congressional butt boy.
The neo-nazicons don't seem to realize that our "enemies" aren't frightened by Bush, but are amused by him.
I've got an observation for Mr. Boot: John Kennedy hardly "scared the snot" out of Kruschev, but he still prevailed during the Cuban Missile crisis. Now, if Nixon had been President - sure, Kruschev may have been scared, but then, we wouldn't know because none of us would probably be here now. My point (and I do have one) for the simple minded wingnuts is simply this: they guy who is perceived as being "scary" by other world leaders is not necessarily the guy you want negotiating arms control or national security treaties.
Tequila @ 82:
Absolutely. Every time Chimpy goes on tv and brags about how Al Quieda is on the run. They usually respond by blowing up another market in Baghdad, resulting in the deaths of more innocent Iraqis. It's sort of like a "Fuck Me! NO-Fuck YOU!" scenario.
liberal white boy @ 81:
Perhaps. But, I must point out (and in no way am I defending McInsane here) that at least half the Democrats in Washington line up to service AIPAC. Just sayin'
Hope is a mere platitude, my friends. Do not dare to hope.
Gimme a break! Who would vote for such a fool?
#1) If our President is supposed to "scare the snot out of" the rest of the world, doesn't that make him a TERRORIST?
#2) Today McCain voted AGAINST the Senate bill prohibiting torture by the CIA during interrogations. Didn't he once say he opposed the use of torture by the US?
This guy is so full of crap it is hard to listen to without wanting to throw up.
I would hope that other world leaders would not "fear" the next President of the USA at all. I would hope that they would embrace them and their ideals and hope for a cohesive & friendly relationship. Isn't that what we should all be hoping for?
liberal white boy @ 81:
I think you're forgetting their very *own* senator - Uncle Joe Lieberman (R-IS).
Has anyone pointed out that he is a "former aviator who" was shot down and captured by the enemy, and who has admitted that while in captivity he found that cooperating with the enemy was in his best interest?
A vote for McCain is a vote for the same neo-con philosophy and criminals from the Reagan era that run the current Bush Administration.
What scares me (other then McCain) is the fact that 50 million clueless Americans, who voted for Bush in 2004, will come out of the woodwork again to vote for another arrogant war monger in 2008. Our national debt will continue to escalate above 2 to 3 trillion. More innocent lives will be lost.
The neo-cons think the world should be scared of the US but in reality they will actually own us instead.
Here is a cool link on the neo-con philosphy and how it has taken hold in the Bush Administration.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/the_truth_about_george_w__bush.html
There is some other cool stuff on their website
http://tvnewslies.org/
Mr. XXXX @ 70:
Kucinich endorsed Obama in the Iowa Caucuses, so a precedent has already been set.
This Zeese character is just another one of these self-proclaimed "activists" who makes some noise, but has painfully little to show for it. Case in point, he runs for the Senate in 2006 and takes about 1.5% of the vote. Even the strident and abrasive Alan Keyes can top such a pathetic performance.
Another real gem from the Counterpunch piece:
A bigger platform? LOL. More like becoming a big fish in a much, much smaller pond. A McKinney-Kucinich ticket would of course go down in a blaze of irrelevancy, with the usual cast of misfits blaming the whole thing on a "corporate media" conspiracy. The only thing the Democrats might regret is not distancing themselves from these two much sooner.
After the 2008 election the GOP party will cease to exsist. They are all so fucked that they connot see the writing on the wall!!!!!!
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It's all about the profit margine.
Don't forget, fries and soda are the money makers of a fast food establishment.
McCampain knows this and is intending to place an order for a hundred year war.
The sides of casualties and reconstructions are all profit to Hall and Burton.
Franchised operations like Blackwater, get to operate with impunity and no accountability to the customer or victim.
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Different Anonymous @ 90:
No. McCain is the butt boy.
Lieberman is the water boy. He carries the water for that lobby.
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