George Bush Attacks John McCain On Lobbyist Ties In 2000
(h/t Billw)
The right has been going nuts over the McCain lobbyist scandal and how evil the New York Times is, but thanks to the DemRapidResponse Channel on YouTube, who dug up some CNN clips from the 2000 presidential campaign, we are reminded that George W. Bush went after John McCain for the very same issue that he and the GOP are now attacking the Times for in 2008 -- lobbyists.
Bush, using a 2000 Wall Street Journal article on McCain's lobbyist ties, attacks him for being a D.C. insider, flying on corporate jets and taking big money from lobbyists in return for favors. And it bears repeating -- Drudge ran with this story months before the New York Times. Maybe it's time for the president and the right wing pundits and politicians to dial back the indignation?
BUSH: "It's important on campaign funding reform that we have campaign funding reform. But it's also important for people to know that my friend is raising money from people who have business in front of his committee. Nothing illegal about that, but I just want to make sure the facts are laid bare."
BUSH: "What I need to do is make it clear and not let Senator McCain get away with this Washington double-talk."
Holy crap. Is "W" the voice of reason here? I never thought I'd see the day.
XD
He's so stupid. So fucking stupid...
The GOP will (PRETEND TO) take the high road, jettison McPAIN as their nominee for some technical reason and install another
cheerleader like Reagan/Bush to be the front for the NEOCONS in November.
Think that is unrealistic? I don't!
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This the contest where two idiots kick each other in the nuts until one gives up. In the end, of course, they both lose.
Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DemRapidResponse on youTube, eh?
Love it!!!!!!!!!!
That settles it for me, McCain must be innocent.
ScrewedRUs @ 1:
Yes, it's really hard to hear anything W says and look in the opposite direction for the truth. Had Enron already provided him with their private jet at this point?
George Bush has added new meanibg to the word doublespeak. How can this shit go on.
People need to get this out. Got a blog? Post it there. MySpace or Facebook? That's what bulletins are for. And so forth. If we can get this out to the MSM, it'll severely damage McCain.
McCain’s Lobbyist ‘Ties’ Worse Than First Reported
The more I see of John McCain the more he reminds me of the old ancient Roman Senators. Greed and power are all that John McCain cares about. Bush was correct in his assessment and he ought to know. After all, Bush is cut from that same cloth.
I'd really like to see this posted on some of the wingnut blogs and then see their responses. It doesn't seem like any of them let you post comments, though.
this coming from the Liar in Chief.well, I guess that says it all.
Who you goin'a believe, Liar Bush or Liar McCain? This only makes Mcnothin look like Mcsomethin!
"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories" - President George W. Bush at the United Nations - November 10, 2001
enor @ 3:
Mitt will be the Mutt. No offense to mongrel dogs out there.
That was then, this is now.
C'mon folks. You can't expect the GOP to be consistent. Now McCain is their boy, so of course the lobbying "scandal" is blown out of proportion by that GD liberal rag the NYT.
The good news here is that a precedent has been set.
Anything you say in one presidential election is fair game for any subsequent election you are involved in.
This should pretty much so end rudy 911 and mitt romney's political careers forever.
In a very rare instance, America wins.
This should be made into a anti-McCain commercial and put on the air within 24 hours.
C'mon Dems, chop-chop.
natisman @ 16:
Mitt d' Mutt, no, they really don't trust him to be a stooge for them.
Maybe Gramm, Lott, Macaca Allen, Inhofe, hey, how about Ashcroft?... come on folks help me out.
Wow, the Republicans will need serious, measurable levels of cognitive dissonance to vote for McCain after this. It would make an excellent science project, seeing if one can scoop up the excess cognitive dissonance that will have to be surrounding the voting booths and take it back to the lab for study.
Moral Compass @ 4:
But, assuming that you are being literal, the rest of us gain, because, after such a fight, neither is likely to breed.
- C.Darwin
TB @ 19:
Great idea, but timing is important as well. I'd create the commercial and wait for a more opportune time to air it. Right now we need to defeat the newly infused karl rove/clinton campaign.
Maybe it's time?
They haven't had any shame so far. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
At this point they would probably need to turn to Romney since they pretty much hate Huckabee and Giuliani. I suppose they could bring in someone like Gingrich or Frist. Both have been out of the lime-light long enough to start with a clean slate. The problem with switching candidates is that it really weakens the candidate. By having to replace his first running mate George McGovern's campaign was really hurt.
What do you call a SUV full Fat Republican house wifes?
A full set of teeth.
They are twin brothers from different mothers. Both Mc Cain and Bush are lying sacks of useless shit. Cant recall another President who was so inherently fuckin evil or that made me sick to my stomach by the mere mention of his name. Hope you guys make it through this stain on American history. But then again, i thought the Nam lesson would never be forgotten too.
Isn't that cute. Bush is setting the precedent for composing bogus "legal opinion" to provide retroactive cover for felonies.
"Well, our lawyers told us that it wasn't illegal to receive
bribeser, money from people with business in front of our committee."Fucking assholes.
By the way, I saw Anderson Cooper tonight for five minutes and I couldn't believe how he was framing this issue. Its bad enough when NPR says "McCain had to counter 9 year-old charges of mismanagement." What? If it takes nine years for the media to catch up on things, he gets a pass? And its not "mismanagement" its fucking breaking the law. Anderson Cooper says it in the same breath as talking about how Clinton and Obama are "exchanging barbs," like its not even a legal issue, like its just about his personality or something.
Meanwhile, no one brings up the sworn deposition that McCain made about the Paxon exchange. Yesterday, he said he never met with Paxon (in contradiction of the deposition.) Today he says that, yes, he met with Paxon, but he didn't write the letters at his behest, it was just coincidental.
He should listen to Mark Twain, "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything."
I am missing somthing here I guess....
Who the fuck gives a shit what that lying fuck wad Bush says about anything?
He is a proven lier.
A known international criminal.
A polluter of the most incidious kind.
Was this statment more or less credible than others he has spoken?
Didn't he sit reading 'My Pet Goat' as NY burned?
Who cares what that piece of shit has to say on any subject?
RELEVANCE PLEASE???
What would Zeus do? @ 25:
I think that if the GOP were to ditch McCain as their nominee they would have to go with someone who is already well known and could pull the most voters. Huckabee can pull the Social Conservative vote but little else. Guiliani is seen as to "Liberal" like McCain and Gingrich and Frist, though well known, may not be able to pull the party together in such a short period of time.
The GOP has to see that both Obama and Clinton are very powerful opponents in their own right and both, no matter which one becomes the nominee, will be very difficult to beat as they both are drawing a lot of support from Independents. If the GOP did decide to go with someone else that candidate would have to be well known already, and can pull together the most GOP voters quickly. Romney, in my opinion may be the best candidate to do just that. He can get the foreign policy hawks, economic Conservatives as well as many Socially Conservative Evangelicals though they may not like his Mormon beliefs. If McCain's popularity falls through the floor and the GOP knows it will lose we might just see a Romney come back.
Oh come on. You guys are willing to show anything here. We all know that booze soaked, skirt chasing bi-sexual coke hound will do and say ANYTHING. After a cursory intelligence and sanity examination, this guys testimony would be thrown out of any court in the country.
My comment got eaten.
Shorter version:
Who told him it was legal, David Addison or John Yoo?
John McCain is a criminal, and his current statements conflict with sworn testimony he made in 2002.
I might also add that if this current McCain scandal goes so deep or that other scandals follow and that it is almost assured that the Dems win the White House then we could very well see a new GOP nominee. There is a lot on the line here for the GOP. The GOP has to know that if they lose the White House they will lose it all. The GOP is so unpopular now that it is possible to see a complete Dem sweep of the House, Senate, and White House. Not to mention most of the Governors.
enor @ 20:
Well there is this guy down in Florida, whats his name, um um Bush. But the corporate world I think would like Mitt-man. he is just like them, all they have to do is sell the born-agains that mystery pants are really cool.
McCain is going to get shafted AGAIN. I love it!! Bush and team trashed him and he went back for more. McCain needs some serious "abuse" counseling. I mean how many times can you get kicked in the teeth before you realize, something is wrong.
Speaking of wrong, just how deep does this lobby thing go? It has to be pretty serious for W to step in and say something that "sounds" honest.
Hmmm, so Karl Rove delivered a $2300 check to McCain yesterday. All bets are off if Rove is involved.
Now that you people listen to George W. Bush do you now understand that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that we had to go into Iraq?
"campaing funding reform"
christ, he even sounded like an idiot back in 2000
All these bad vibes spewing from W and McCain is still more than willing to give him a hand job on stage. What a slut!
Oh boy, here we go. McCain is tied to the Sieglemen case by way of Abramhoff. McCain sat on a vital piece of email that came before his committee. My god, what a tangled web!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/25/mccain-withheld-controver_n_883...
Moral Compass @ 4:
Yeah, 'cause one of these nutless motherfucker's 'll wear out their foot.
I would suggest the Democratic National Committee play these sound bites OVER AND OVER AND OVER again so that the dense American public can get it through their heads that mccain is the same old school of corporate corruption and influence.
Orangutan. @ 23:
No, I don't believe that's the way to go.
If you think about it, there has been a near constant output from Republicans of stuff along these lines; representatives and staffers and lobbyists thrown in jail, constant investigations, TV preachers caught screwing other boys etc etc etc.
I say each time a Conservative screws up, and not a disagreement over policy or differences in "what should we do about X", but when they really, demonstrably screw up, an issue ad should be made about it, and dumped onto the airwaves.
Keep up a constant drumbeat of the following themes:
Republican = bad
Republican = corrupt
Republican = incompetent
Republican = hypocrite
etc
You'll never sway the ~20% of die hard republicans, but you can get it driven into the heads of the big middle, people who always list themselves as "undecided", people who don't make up their minds who to vote for until the last day before an election, that the LAST person you should consider is a republican.
Hang who they are, and how they've fucked up around their necks like a dozen millstones, and then throw them overboard.
"my friend is raisin' money from the people who have bidness in front of his committee"
I still don't get why anyone voted for him the first time around.
enor @ 20:
...Forbes? (overheard in NC.)
TB @ 43:
I concur re the course to conquering the con curs...
hahahahahahaha! Bush pointing the finger at his lovey dovey friend. Honestly! Down with the Republicans!
John A. Please run a post on the links between John McCain and Alabama Gov. Bob Riley. This ties to the railroading of Don Seigelman. McCain needed some favors from Riley so he left him off the Ambramoff scandal. Riley’s campain manager’s wife was the District attorney who started the sweeping investigations into Seigelman but had to eventually recuse herself. She was appointed by Bush. Remember some other District attorney’s who got fired for not opening this type of investigation back in the 2006 elections?? This story stinks to high heaven. I look forward to seeing what you guys have to say, I’m a big fan. Here’s a link to my tiny blog about this story, hope it helps.
http://illiterateelectorate.bl.....-dept.html
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what a difference 8 years does to a politician. Look at how fast and animated McCain is when he spoke in 2000 (in that vid in the OP).. compare that the way he speaks today. Big difference.
Then look at Bush in 2000, now look at him now.. aged o'rolla
God, what kind of fcking morons vote for these stupid fcking idiot Republicans? Christ, America has problems.
Hittin' the road, Jack,"and I ain't comin' back no more no more no more no more"...
"Last word, freak." - Melvin Udall
out
Person @ 37:
Heh heh, the problem is that McCain's ties to the lobbyists are right there for all to see. No one can say that about Iraq's supposed WMD.
The most disgusting form of hypocrisy EVER ----- Bush lecturing on political ethics!
hey come on , bush knows it does not matter what he says , he controls the most powerful armed forces in the world ( including the private sector ) and he is getting ready to prove it right here folks .
You think not , right ! .
The crackpot calling the kettle black...
does it sound to you like he's saying "campaign funny reform" in that clip?
Oh for the GWB of 2000 who was only comically incompetent, & not yet revealed as truly Evil.
RueMorgue @ 2:
LMAO! Yes he is, this still my favorite, where he was asked about tribal sovereignty in the 04 elections. How the hell can you be a politician and not know what the definition of sovereignty? I wish he asked him to spell it. P O T A O E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi49tvs8jp8&NR=1
Talk about a pot & kettle moment.
The Neocons are going down in flames with thier fisical policy.
why does that shit-flinging chimp ever get camera time? His only camera time should be impeachment hearings, conviction, and imprisonment period fucking dot
Well, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
Old school ties, what?
Alexis @ 61:
Who's dot, and does she have a sister?
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