heh, I'd like to see her say the same crap to Mary Cheney's face with Lynn and Dick standing by

Oklahoma seems to have a lot of biblical literalist flat-earthers.

Whenever they protest toooo much one has to wonder.........?

They'll erect a statue in her honor in Oklahoma ... a ribbon-cutting ceremony to unveil it. Then they'll all go home and fire up the gay porn and masturbate. Those, that is, who don't go to the local park restroom to blow a guy for real.

No, not all of them will do that. The rest will just beat their wives and/or kids. Then they'll get up on Sunday and go to church where they will be all smiles and Norman Rockwell ... and Jesus will weep.

What a nut.

Perhaps the most horrific portion comes right at the end when she implicitly connects homosexuality to cancer. One can only hope that, when she least suspects it, she too will catch the gay.

Offensive? Yes. Surprising? No.

This is the same line the bigots have used for 27 years: hit listeners with the one-two punch of recruitment and infection. Reagan and Bush I welcomed these haters with open arms; Clinton enabled them with his capitulations on "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" and DOMA; and Bush II gave them shelter inside the tent of "compassionate" conservatism.

Will this be a year of true change, or will we continue to elect executives and legislators who speak of inclusion in public and tell a very different story behind closed doors?

Phuz01 @ 13:

Offensive? Yes. Surprising? No.

This is the same line the bigots have used for 27 years: hit listeners with the one-two punch of recruitment and infection. Reagan and Bush I welcomed these haters with open arms; Clinton enabled them with his capitulations on "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" and DOMA; and Bush II gave them shelter inside the tent of "compassionate" conservatism.

Will this be a year of true change, or will we continue to elect executives and legislators who speak of inclusion in public and tell a very different story behind closed doors?

I'm guessing it will be the latter.

Jordan @ 2:

I am intrigued by your comments and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Hilarious!

If she and her ilk believe that this is what the majority of her constituents and the majority of the American public also believes, then why does she only say it when she thinks she is in a closed situation that will not leak out to the press and be reported to the general public? I have never been afraid to shout my convictions to the rooftops, so why doesn't she? Perhaps she realizes that the majority of Americans are not hateful, bigoted, homophobic, xenophobic, antifeminist buffoons that she and her friends are. Hey, honey, if you are so right, let's see you say it at 5:00PM on CNN while you're sitting next to John McCain and GWB. Yeah, I'll bet they'll just LOVE sitting next to your ass while you're spewing that bile. I mean, look how much they love the support and endorsements of Hagee, Robertson, Dobson and the rest - well, at least if they don't make they're support TOO public. Oh, and one other point that may be off topic but has bothered me for a long time about these fucking fundies: if you believe in the literal truth of the Bible, and that the truth of the Bible supercedes any science, and therefore believe that the earth is only between 6-10,000 years old then, pray tell, how long is a lightyear?

"Terrorism or Islam"

That was choice. At least give her a couple of points for recognizing that they are distinctly different, but unfortunately she finds BOTH are a threat to America as she knows it. In all honesty I'm really not shocked at all by her words because she sounds exactly like typical Christian TV. If this is at all upsetting, please, please, spend sometime watching the 24/7 hate of Christian TV. If nothing else, please find time to tune in Mr. Hate Himself.... John Hagee. He really is the ass-pimple on the pumpkin. He hates women, he hates gays, he hates Democrats, he hates the welfare state, he hates minorities, he hates non-Neocons, he hates peace, grrrrrr he especially hates peace, and anything that could lead to peace.

To me this is just typical stuff I hear multiple times a day every single day. If you're at all surprised that she sounds a lot like many of her constituents, then you're pretty ignorant.

MountainMan23 @ 18:

It's the REPUBLICAN AGENDA that's ruining this nation.

And Christianist Agenda. No better way to divide and destroy a country than along religious lines.

Well, the most salient point she makes is "...they're winning elections" Wonder why that is??

Otay @ 16:

Good to know how our government employees spend their time instead of running things.

________________________________________________________________________

Maybe she was reading the Bible and decided to take a breather. As evidenced by an Administrator at VA that seems to take lots of time as well.

Number of times in my life someone has tried to make me a Christian - several hundred
Number of times in my life someone has tried to make me a homosexual - none

This kind of ranting is based on the idea that we as a nation can not seem to puncture. The idea that gays are gays because they choose to be gay. They choose to be discriminated against, they choose to be at risk of beatings and murder just for the attention. I don't understand how people can come to this conclusion but they do. What is not brought into the light enough is that millions of people think that if the government were to treat gays equally GOD would punish everyone. Their GOD is a vindictive homophobic monster that will torture everyone forever if they show some tolerance.

Rep Sally Kern answers question from Dom@19:

D@19: …pray tell, how long is a lightyear?

RSK: Why a year, silly. Is this a trick question??

One more sample of right wing, evangelical, ignorant dumb-bitch representation.

Are the good people of Oklahoma that stupid that they would want this witch representing them? I would certainly hope not.

Hope they use this clip come re-election time. It's time to root these ignorant morons OUT of government entirely. Let them stick voodoo dolls in their basements, but keep them out of our governments.

Mike @ 229:

PurplePatriot @ 7:

They'll erect a statue in her honor in Oklahoma ... a ribbon-cutting ceremony to unveil it. Then they'll all go home and fire up the gay porn and masturbate. Those, that is, who don't go to the local park restroom to blow a guy for real.

No, not all of them will do that. The rest will just beat their wives and/or kids. Then they'll get up on Sunday and go to church where they will be all smiles and Norman Rockwell ... and Jesus will weep.

Yeah, to hell with those Oklahomans and their generalization and demonization of an entire group of people based on one person's opinions/lifestyle! Have any of you bashers even been to Oklahoma? Or is it easier to just sit in the comfort of your home and hurl slander from there? Hypocrite.

Ace Jackson @ 209:

People please, give it a break.

Well, Mike, those people who are making broad generalizations about Oklahoma and Christians and so forth don't see their statements as broad generalizations or their name-calling, even the grotesquely vulgar stuff, as hateful. They are so completely dazzled by what they view as their own ideological perfection that they can't imagine that they are doing the very thing against which they claim to crusade. Just remember:
Free speech is only for liberals.
The same goes for free thought.
You may only speak out or act on what you believe if it doesn't offend anyone except Christians and conservatives. It's open season on those two groups. It is Good to offend them.
The South is a primitive wilderness of ignorance ---we know this because the enlightened geniuses in the North and on the coasts tell us so and we must believe them because every one of their towns and cities is a paradise of equality and justice.
Science is Perfect and shows us Absolutete Truth. Okay, the Absolute Truth will change as new information comes in, but why quibble over a detail like that? Stop thinking, dammit!
You must toe the liberal line or your compassionate, open-minded, humanistic, liberal neighbors will first ridicule you and then demand that you be fired from your job.
But they aren't judgemental. They don't judge anyone.

Zackery Fischer @ 359:

What is the problem people? I wasn't offended by her remarks. She has every right to express herself and her beliefs as we do. I rather imagine she and those who think the same way as she does are often offended by what we say. If we want tolerance then we have to be tolerant as well - many seem to have forgotten that by the looks of the comments thus far. In fact, some of the comments made here are so inane as to magnify the stereotype most of us hate to see reflected by society.

Giver her the same right to speak her POV as you wish. You can always work to vote Ms. Kern out of office - that's how Americans do it, not spread vicious hate speach at those who do not hink as we do.

Many posters above have expressed similar concerns. However, what I think you forget is that Ms. Kern has a position of leadership, and the ability to influence and make laws that can hurt the very people she hates. She isn't just an ordinary citizen speaking her mind. Heck, the KKK have free speech rights, too. No one is advocating taking those away. But when someone is in a position of leadership, they have a responsibility. She can hate all she wants, but I don't think she should be using her position as a lawmaker to spout hate about a certain segment of her constituents, and ranting about how those constituents need to be oppressed. It's about oppression in this case, not free speech.

This is an all points bulletin: Be on the look out for "man-ish" looking lady in public restrooms in Oklahoma airports.

Nice throwaway Moslem slam in there too. If she'd only remembered her Eagle Forum doctrines and dropped in a slam on them uppity fem'nists, she could've had a trifecta!

Does she have a democratic challenger? Let me know, because I'd gladly contribute to their campaign.

People like her never cease to amaze me. Downright sad and pathetic. I hope her god slaps her upside the head and reminds her that all humans are God's children. Love thy neighbor, but only if they are exactly like you?

The world is kicking our ass economically.... we are bleeding money to the middle east to pay for our oil...we are spending lives and trillions in Iraq, and our wonderful Congressional leaders are concentrating on the horrible ills of homosexuality.....man, I wish her daddy had been a homsexual.....

erick @ 1:

heh, I'd like to see her say the same crap to Mary Cheney's face with Lynn and Dick standing by

Mary would be dumbfounded; Lynne would just stare like a rape woman; Dick would be pleased and endorse her.

Dear Mrs. Kerns,

I heartily approve of your position regarding homosexuality and I trust that with God's blessing you will strike the first blow in the Global War On Teh GAYS by pitchforking Larry Craig and then burning him as a witch on the steps of the Capitol.

P.S. My multiple sclerosis prevents me from attending your sermons, so do you think you could cure me of that with an anointed e-mail, in return for $1000?

And here in UT I have wonderful state reps like the dumbass Chris Buttars...it's up to us to keep these dips out of office!

Just a typical bush voter. Notice the silence by the Head Dick in the Oval Office....

God, guns and gays.

Thats what republicans run their whole campaigns on.

Ben @ 46:

As a member of the military, I wonder if the DoD has any plans in place for rooting out the gay where it exists and torturing the lower level gay for information on where the highest level of gay hides. After all, since homosexuality is a bigger threat than terrorism, we need to have a Global War on Gay, or GWOG. Then we could have our soldiers drive around San Francisco and wait until a parade goes off instead of the current policy of driving around Baghdad and waiting until an IED goes off.

Ben, you've got yerself the foundations of one of them there Thinky-Tanks I done hear folks a-jawing about up'n Warshington--or is it Wahington?

Hate to say it, but that's why I left my home state so many years ago - moved to Maine where the land is almost as pretty and the people you run into (generally) are just flat saner.

It's idiots like her that make me ashamed to be an Okie, sometimes. You can take out "gay" and substitute "Native American" or whatever target of convenience is needed.

Just sick.

Here's more about Sally Kern. Apparently she isn't loved by many people. She also wants creationism taught in the schools.

Here's her email address if you want to contact her:

sallykern@okhouse.gov

Here's her government page.

And here's her defense. (She has none.)

Roket:
LOL!
Actually, I should have asked: what is the DISTANCE of a lightyear? (i.e., if a star is said to be 100,000,000 lightyears away, how can it take that many years for the light to reach us when the earth is only 6-10,000 years old, and a lightyear is supposedly - since scientists, according to Ms. kern and her acolytes, are heathens - about 6 trillion miles?).

I heard that. And this is not the first time, either.

BTW Rep Kern, it's a 'life', not a 'lahfestyul.'

Really.. this woman goosesteps with the best of the Nazis*

*Godwin's Law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations. This is not inappropriate. This is what Nazis did. Hated on people for their life condition.

The amount of ignorance, hate and bigotry in the US never ceases to amaze me. From this woman thinking she's being discreet to Ann Colter who hates on national airwaves.

Although the Bush administration has been a negative influence on the US (to say the least) it has brought to the surface all the racists, bigots, and haters for all to see.

This is not a Republican Agenda! it is important to note that because those who hate will switch side to whoever has the power. For example, Condi Rice used to vote for a democrat but she switch side when Jimmy Carter didn't go to war during the hostage crisis. Condi is so filled with hate for the Muslim, that she is unwilling to have meaningful dialogue with "the enemy" as she calls them. I don't think you can shrug it off as a republican, because if you do, then you wont see them coming to join the other party, when Republican can no longer get elected. We have Joe Leiberman to warn us of that.

anneyhussein @ 58:

Here's more about Sally Kern. Apparently she isn't loved by many people. She also wants creationism taught in the schools.

Of course she wants creationism taught in schools. I figured as much as soon as I heard her say only facts should be taught in school. She's just like any other reality-challenged wingnut living in cognitive dissonance.

As vile as this woman seems to be, I suspect she's only saying what too many Americans still actually believe but will not say. And to me that's more scary than anything else.

this woman hates Christ and His teachings. Of course she forgets that Jesus never said anythign about homosexuality, but pointedly said something about not divorcing. Of course she ignores what Christ said.

Joe @ 74:

If electricity comes from electrons,does morality come from morons

Electricity comes from electrons becoming unhinged. Morality comes from morons becoming unhinged.

BadLifeStyle @ 56:

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Congresswoman Kern! Is that you?

Par for the course. So what? She's a Rep in Oklahoma, and they get what they deserve. Ignorant bigots will always be around, they'll always push this garbage, and no one will change them. E-mailing her is pointless, talking to her is pointless, trying to get a sane person elected in her district is most probably pointless. I see she was born in Arkansas. Lincoln really should have let the South go, after we kicked their asses and freed the slaves. The only "cancer" threatening America is fundamentalist crap like this.

She was a teacher for 20 years. Now you know why your typical Okie is dumber than pigshit. Jesus! May this clip be spread far and wide on the Internets - she deserves to be a laughingstock. But I do see the faintest glimmer of hope - a Democrat took Denny Hastert's House seat, and Barack Obama is well on his way to being the Democratic Party nominee (sorry Hillarybots, but that's the way it is). Our national nightmare may soon be over.

Dom @ 61:

Roket:
LOL!
Actually, I should have asked: what is the DISTANCE of a lightyear? (i.e., if a star is said to be 100,000,000 lightyears away, how can it take that many years for the light to reach us when the earth is only 6-10,000 years old, and a lightyear is supposedly - since scientists, according to Ms. kern and her acolytes, are heathens - about 6 trillion miles?).

I thought the original question served pretty well, in the vein of "who is buried in Grant's tomb" but as explained, that's a very articulate and far more witty question. The trouble is only rational people "get it"--to Kerns and her ilk it's just a strange buzzing sound, probably made by SATAN!!!

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I will say it again. Show me a republican and I'll show you a bigot.

Don't you just love how a bigot in the middle of their hateful rant will say "But I'm not prejudice" - sure your not, just because I hate all of a single group of people without getting to know any of them as actual people...don't make me a bigot does it? does it??

I sent an e-mail to this idiot to tell her that she is a bigot, maybe she can get together with the rest of her bigot-filled Republican party and they can all not hate gays together.

nipit @ 88:

I will say it again. Show me a republican and I'll show you a bigot.

But really it's all a show for the Republican base of bigots.

I mean, how many years did they have total control and they couldn't seem to pass a single anti-abortion law, they couldn't change our constitution to exclude gays and they couldn't pass a single bill to keep immigrants out of the country. They couldn't even pass a stinking anti-flag-burning bill because they don't really believe in any of that, they just want to keep the bigots in their base happy and voting for their bullshit.

Aw, it must make one proud to be a Republican.

Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 92:

nipit @ 88:

I will say it again. Show me a republican and I'll show you a bigot.

But really it's all a show for the Republican base of bigots.

I mean, how many years did they have total control and they couldn't seem to pass a single anti-abortion law, they couldn't change our constitution to exclude gays and they couldn't pass a single bill to keep immigrants out of the country. They couldn't even pass a stinking anti-flag-burning bill because they don't really believe in any of that, they just want to keep the bigots in their base happy and voting for their bullshit.

Aw, it must make one proud to be a Republican.

BINGO!! ... with one minor amendment. I think they do believe in it, and are just as bigoted. However, they refuse to pass legislation because as soon as those hot-button issues go away, they lose the ability to inject those contreversial topics into the national dialog to take peoples' eyes away from the true ills of society--themselves.

The Daily Oklahoman newspaper, the Wall Street Journal of those parts, refuses to acknowledge the story.

Word has it Tommy Coburn called and threatened to kill any editor - and abortion doctor - who printed the story. And Jimmy Inhofe blamed the whole thing on global warming.

Of course, those are just rumors.

I think.

This is the same hate that evil freaks like this bitch said about us "coloreds" fifty years ago.

these wingnut extremists have a problem understanding spiritual teachings. They bend the truth for their own selfish and fear orientated gains.

"16. My Father-God, who was, and is, and evermore shall be; who holds within thy hands the scales of justice and of right;
17. Who in the boundlessness of love has made all men to equal be. The white, the black, the yellow, and the red can look up in thy face and say, Our Father-God.
18. Thou Father of the human race, I praise thy name."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/agjc/agjc27.htm

from the
"THE AQUARIAN GOSPEL OF JESUS THE CHRIST"
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/agjc/index.htm

claggart @ 29:

Number of times in my life someone has tried to make me a Christian - several hundred
Number of times in my life someone has tried to make me a homosexual - none

I found a note on my door when I came home last night, "Where will you be spending eternity?" Well, if there were a benevolent god, it wouldn't be anywhere near you people.

She starts out by saying "just like not all religions are equal, not all lifestyles are equal". What country is she from? Doesn't our constitution guarantee equality and she's spitting out crap like this? What makes her a "religous authority" to make such an asinine statement regarding equality. If she wants to talk about lifestyles, well, I believe that hateful lifestyles like hers are below the lifestyle of diversity and she should slink back to her cave.

New name: the Oklahomophobic Legislature.

Old Billy Hussein @ 102:

claggart @ 29:

Number of times in my life someone has tried to make me a Christian - several hundred
Number of times in my life someone has tried to make me a homosexual - none

I found a note on my door when I came home last night, "Where will you be spending eternity?" Well, if there were a benevolent god, it wouldn't be anywhere near you people.

Why I will never step foot in a church.

I don't need to buy my friends.

Phuz01 @ 103:

BadLifeStyle @ 57:

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Am I the only one here who finds it a bit ironic that this entry is about raising awareness about the rhetoric of hate, but hateful speech is deleted from the comments? I'm gay, and I'd prefer to know what my enemies are saying about me. I don't need to be protected from anti-gay hate speech, and I don't believe that leaving it in the comments is an endorsement of it (no matter what Bill-ow may say).

This is your site and your rules, and I approve of the banning to ensure this poster and others realize it's not OK to come in and spew bile. But now I'm left wondering what this person could have said, and what's going through my mind is probably far worse (and infinitely more creative) than anything the banned poster could type.

This isn't meant to stir up trouble or to tell you how to do things. But I had overprotective parents who shielded me from violence and obscenity. If, instead of covering my eyes and ears, they had used these occasions as "teachable moments," it might not have been so devastating when I was gay bashed and forced to confront first-hand the evil and awful things people are capable of saying and doing.

Actually, they are usually just seeking attention and that is the easiest way to do it. While I didn't see the post, I am sure that it is nothing that you didn't hear by the age of ten.

Here is her email: sallykern@okhouse.gov

arkadin @ 11:

Perhaps the most horrific portion comes right at the end when she implicitly connects homosexuality to cancer. One can only hope that, when she least suspects it, she too will catch the gay.

Thank god I didn't listen that far. My wife of 27 years recently died of cancer, and we both impressed upon our three decisively heterosexual children that when it comes to homosexuality- that's just the way some people are.Good fucking god, what is WRONG with these people, where do they come from, and WHY are there so many of them????

Impeach cheney and bush @ 6:

How does anybody go about their lives carrying around all of that hate and ignorance? Unfortunately, it is out there among us. It is scary that she ever got close to children in the public school system. I've never seen a 2 year old in school. Must be something new. How do you teach 2 year old children to hate homosexuals? I am sick of all the ignorance that is paraded around as truth.

The worst thing is what it does to those who listen to them. I am a VERY angry gay person. I don't like that fact. I have lived here in Jesse Helms country half of my life, and I now hate Evangelicals and Republicans for what they believe and how they behave. It has colored my relationship with my family, and that makes me even angrier. I have not always been a hater, and It is very depressing.

There is a film out called, I believe, Prop 9. It is a documentary about how a western state attempted to pass legislation that not only would disenfranchised gays by negating all civil rights legislation on the books, but also prevent gays from ever passing laws to protect them in the future. If that isn't akin to the Nazis, I don't know what is.

"While there’s no profanity in this clip, this is some of the most offensive language you’ll ever hear."

While it's disgusting, repulsive, and offensive, I hardly find this to be the most offensive language I'll ever hear or have ever heard. I really hope that you are not that naive.

Ignorance is her platform! The evil are her backers. Hell is her destination!

Unfortunately, this tirade sounds remarkable similar to the rhetoric spewed by my very own Representative, Michele Bachmann.

It is all part of the Right Wing Slippery Slope

Take her down! Spread that link far and wide.

TP

Oh what fun it is to ride on a one horse ignorant sleigh! Oh Okie fuck Okie fuck Okie all the way~

Oh, jumpin' jelly doughnuts! That Gryphon link is to die for.

Danke.

TP

This is some of the sickest shit I have ever heard. She needs to resign, and I just sent her a letter to that effect.

Marty @ 66:

The amount of ignorance, hate and bigotry in the US never ceases to amaze me. ...Although the Bush administration has been a negative influence on the US (to say the least) it has brought to the surface all the racists, bigots, and haters for all to see.

Travel the world. You will find PLENTY of bigotry.

Human beings have strong negative outgroup biases in every land.

Much of America is integrated and harmonious. If you think there isn't an Oklahoma Russia, or an Oklahoma Germany, or an Oklahoma Japan, or an Oklahoma China, or an Oklahoma India -- you haven't gotten out much.

My 17 year old daughter is not gay and is a member of the Gay/Straight Alliance at her high school.

Our family is Catholic, and we have seven kids and a few that we have helped to raise, or given shelter to, over the years. My husband and I go to church every Sunday, (which, admittedly, is not necessarily any indication of a persons "goodness") We have gay friends and relatives. Not only have we not been "hurt by the Gay Agenda", we have been enriched by it. (If there were such a thing.)

I look at people like Mrs. Kern with pity and disgust. It's a pity that they don't hear the part of Jesus' message that says to "love your neighbor". Their lives would be so much more full of love, and they would have far less fear.

I'm disgusted that people like Kern don't have the courage or intellectual curiosity to reach out to their community, even though they seek power and position in the community.

When are we going to start looking at these bigots and calling them what they are,(universal WE), which is low minded cretins. Do their views matter? Yes, because they do have a following. Are their views worth listening too? Sure, knowing your enemy is always important. Are their views progressive or regressive? This speaks for its self. If they don't want to progess, then why are we giving them the opportunity (again, universal WE) to play a part in the machinery that governs?

For me, I think it is important to ask these questions loudly, and proudly, every opportunity we get. Framing is everything in politics, and there ARE enough smart people out there to sway the pendulum back, from the brink of regression, if more of these "private" meetings are given daylight, and there is a chance for the public to hear the right questions being asked.

It's not about right and left, liberal and conservative. It's about where do we want our country to be at the world table, and what do we want for our local communities. Do we want to move forward, or backward. It's time to stop treating opinions as if they were good public policy, and to start making good public policy based on our national agreement of governance...The Constitution.

(just my rant for the day...thanks...that feels better.)

I blew a few gaskets and fired off an e-mail or two. I'd like to see her say that about Jews or N-gg-rs. See my point. (Not that I want her to do that, just sayin'...) Sounds like Hitler talking about Germany's "vermin" problem.

Anyone interested in this topic, might want to have a look at this site, "Hate Crime dot Org." It has a collection of right wing "utterances".

http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/hatespeech/hate.html

I don't know what kind of bible this idiot reads,but my bible makes it perfectly clear that God loves everyone.Anybody with even a slight bit of intellect knows that each and every one of us is born with our sexuality be it hetero,gay,or bi. and there is nothing on this earth that will change that.Hopefully,, this hateful bitch will soon be out of a job and good riddance!

Vile and sick. Sick.
This woman is no Christian. She clearly does not know my Jesus. She uses God's Word as a justification for her hate. Worst of all, her ranting and raving gives 'real' Christians a bad name too. Every time I hear one of these idiots all I can think is "Shut. Up." But they never will.
She was right on the money, though, when she stated that all churches were not equal. Many, like hers, thrive on hate and lies. I can't say they are equal to those who do not.
I'd better not go any further with this - I'm a teacher too and equally insulted on that level as well and if I get started I'll go on forever....

Ignorant!