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BREAKING: White House Not Releasing Damaging Pentagon Report

Anybody surprised by this?

ABC News:

The Bush Administration apparently does not want a U.S. military study that found no direct connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda to get any attention. This morning, the Pentagon cancelled plans to send out a press release announcing the report's release and will no longer make the report available online.

The report was to be posted on the Joint Forces Command website this afternoon, followed by a background briefing with the authors. No more. The report will be made available only to those who ask for it, and it will be sent via U.S. mail from Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia.

It won't be emailed to reporters and it won't be posted online.

Asked why the report would not be posted online and could not be emailed, the spokesman for Joint Forces Command said: "We're making the report available to anyone who wishes to have it, and we'll send it out via CD in the mail."

Another Pentagon official said initial press reports on the study made it "too politically sensitive."

ABC News obtained the comprehensive military study of Saddam Hussein's links to terrorism on Tuesday. Read the report's executive summary HERE.

The study, which was due to be released Wednesday, found no "smoking gun" or any evidence of a direct connection between Saddam's Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist organization.

The report is based on the analysis of some 600,000 official Iraqi documents seized by US forces after the invasion. It is also based on thousands of hours of interrogations of former top officials in Saddam's government who are now in U.S. custody.

Others have reached the same conclusion, but no previous study has had access to so much information. Further, this is the first official acknowledgement from the U.S. military that there is no evidence Saddam had ties to Al Qaeda.

UPDATE: According to ABC News, "[The report] won't be emailed to reporters and it won't be posted online."

According to our great C&L commenters, it can be found here.



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first?

Oh good God. Out of whose pocket comes the cost of duping the cds and mailing them to those of us who will surely ask for one? Jesus H. Christ on a cracker.

I had to leave that last topic, its to hurtful and was causing me to be ugly with my own people, now maybe we can go after some real scum.

SHOCKING!!!

Incredibly stupid decision. That report will be online in no time, just because the government doesn't put it online will not keep it off the net.

hahaha - "politically sensitive". $5 says that means "the Democrats were right, again, and we don't want to publicize it". I think we should all start requesting it - that'd be hilarious. Give them a few million orders to fill, then run around and tape pages from them in random places.

These lying fucks...

Is there anything they won't do?

I just requested a copy of the CD from the Joint Forces "Contact Us" page at http://www.jwfc.jfcom.mil/webapps/forms/USJFCOM/feedback.jsp

So is the idea that when you ask to have a copy of this report it accidentally get's lost in the mail?

Gee-whiz. That's a stunner. But let me guess: They have an immediate press release regarding the Elliott Spitzer affair.

"Yessir, lemme, get right on it, sir. You say you want me to use the word, 'whore' instead of 'prostitute'? Got it!"

Substance and reality have no meaning in Bush's world.

How does one avail oneself of these here discuseseses?
Can I order one on the Internets?

I don't why the Bush regime cares if the report gets released or not. It's not like Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid are going to do anything about it.

Oops... I was a-typin' when I shoulda been a-readin'...

Thanks Eric!

"too politically sensitive.”

Anyone else outraged by this?

Obama had better say something about this in the next 48 hours.

Who didn't know that Saddam had no ties to al Qaeda? Good God. I'd buy the dang CD just to send it to the swiftboaters and Drudge and Limbaugh and Bill O'Really and the rest. I want to see people like Michael Ledeen held responsible for this farce and tragedy. What a nightmere.

If you got nothing to hide, why the hell are you trying to hide everything?

Until the Pentagon reverses itself, which it will, here's a first crack at the 600-document dataset, produced by Joint Forces Command. More on the WMD issue than AQ, but the conclusions are essentially the same.

www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2006/ipp.pdf

www.wikileaks.org

What, don't expect them to release it to the public. The public shouldn't have to be subjected to the truth. How can Cheney keep telling the lies if everyone already know the truth? How can McCain rush to war with Iran if the public knows the truth? How can they go to war with any of the axis of evil if everbody knows that there is no axis of evil?

Another Pentagon official said initial press reports on the study made it “too politically sensitive.”

Nothing more politically sensitive than the truth.

Well, let's get it and publish it on line!

Is impeachment still off the table Nancy?

Where are we headed now Mr. Ledeen?

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002278.php

The White House has officially gotten away with murder. 600,000, 600,000, 600,000 pages!!!!!!!! How many pages of information does the White Houseneed to be proven wrong, 10,000,000 documents? How about a billion? Nevermind, if the White House had every bit of inofation,they would still lie through their asses. America is Fucked!!!!!

wow. it took them 5 years to NOT release a report telling everyone what they already know, at least the people who were paying attention.

What a colossal and gargantuan surprise.

koko @ 9:

So is the idea that when you ask to have a copy of this report it accidentally get's lost in the mail?

and then your name and address go on the post-22nd amendment list of potential problem people.

Yet another reason to impeach the bastards...

They say they won't release it because it's too politically sensitive.

I ran that through Babelfish doing a bullshit to English translation and it came up with this:

Releasing it will cut into profit margins and put neo-cons out of office.

Those Babelfish guys are getting better with that software every day!

Can we start a petition to have everybody and their brother request a copy of the report? The deluge of requests may help expedite a change of policy.

There's an obvious response to this for any wingnuts that might be hanging around these parts - heh, heh, heh, - and that would be that the report is clearly incomplete given that the key documents had been hidden in the same place as all those WMDs. They're either in the sand somewhere or stashed away in Syria or on board that ship that's been chugging around the globe ever since the other Hussein sent 'em on their way so he could go to the gallows claiming his innocence - as if that mattered. Point being, if we didn't want the inspectors to keep on keeping on looking for weapons, no way we're gonna 'come clean' on our own nickel on the al-queda thing. I mean, how in blazes did they let the thing get this far in the first place - musta been on Gates watch, Rumsfled would never have allowed a minute to be spent on this.

Another Pentagon official said initial press reports on the study made it “too politically sensitive.”

i.e. it's damaging to the Bush regime's case for invasion and the Republican party's political fortunes. There can be no other reading of that statement.

The report should sink Hillary and McCain in one foul blow.

of cooooooooouuuurse!

To Joint Forces Command:

To Whom it May Concern:

Per your recorded instructions, please find enclosed a self-addressed stamped envelope and a fully-executed notarized non-disclosure agreement with the forum selection clause (Military Tribunals, Guantanamo Bay) initialed. Also enclosed is the signed loyalty oath card (Jurat attached) and the $185 money order for the processing fee (in Euros).

It may also force the impeachment and imprisonment of Bush & co.

koko @ 9:

So is the idea that when you ask to have a copy of this report it accidentally get's lost in the mail?

Other info I requested has been sent to me.

Political sensitivity training?

This is just one more brown stain on America's underwear while being worn by George W. Bush. His legacy will be looked upon as the shit-stain on American history - if our country survives another decade or two. The damage done to our Constitution, our civil liberties, and our standing in the world may never be repaired. Thanks George. Mission fucking accomplished!

more at my blog...

Well, I can understand that. Bush is still trying to cope with the fact that Sweden has an army.

Joe Wilson was right - now can we please frogmarch these assholes out of my White House in orange suits and handcuffs?

Will C&L post the contact information of who I can call or write to in order to get the report? I'll get it and post the hell out of it.

Look, don't fool yourselves - they're going to set up a committee that sounds similar that comes to different conclusions in order to obfuscate the issue. Witness the "Iraq Survey Group", not the "Iraq Study Group", publishing a report that indicated there was a link, though a weak one, between Saddam and al-Qaeda/Osama. Furthermore, it was full of insinuations that admitted they didn't have facts to back up claims but implied that they had facts to back a "desire" on Saddam's part to have such an involvement. That report was touted by conservative talking heads (the first time I heard of it was on Colmes' radio show) and probably some administration officials.
This Joint Forces report will not finally "clear the air" on the issue - they'll bury it and devise something that claims the opposite. The lie never dies amongst the wingnuts/administration. Anything definitive, they'll wait a few weeks/months, and then say "actually, according to more research, we were right." Witness how the right laid low for a little while about the "madrassa" that Obama attended after the story was debunked, but it has been slowly creeping back. Or, better yet, think about Whitewater, or abortion causing breast cancer, or...the list goes on. Interminably.

Swashbuckler @ 5:

Incredibly stupid decision. That report will be online in no time, just because the government doesn't put it online will not keep it off the net.

It depends on the format on the CD. They could do a pdf in a graphic mode that would not be text retrievable and would require additional work, maybe even a lot of work, to convert.

More crap. They want to take as much sting out as possible. Bastards.

We paid for it. Oh wait, we borrowed the money.

Well, it's always good to see the truth reinforced by anyone, even the perpetuators of the myth. But what is tragic in all of this is that there is going to be a lot of people who are going to breathe a sigh of relief and change the direction of their mind from one of "holding back one's judgment until the 'truth' comes out", to "yes! the 'truth' is now here". It's tragic because what this means is that these people have come to think that truth is only truth if the government reports it.

There's going to be a lot of slack jawed yokels who are going to say "Well I'll be! So Saddam didn't fund Al-Qaeda? Well, he's dead anyhow, so good riddance. I hated it when people were on his side." Then all is forgotten, because "war is hell".

What is also tragic is that the NIE report that showed the same conclusions was dismissed.

This is how big government operates, folks. Millions of deaths and lies to cover up lies to cover up lies.

I used to have some sympathy and respect for Ferraro, but it's largely gone now. She's been so wrong and so classless on this.

Bushco doesn't want anyone to know they fucked up yet again?
Too late, I think that horse done went and got out the barn door before Chimpy's hachet man could close it.. Of course I realize that won't stop the GOP Winston's of the world from trying to do a re-write next week....Hopefully the blogs will continue to burn this story into the public conscience....JD

What is it going to take to get the Congress to impeach these bastards?!

"We must speak the truth about terror." -- George W. Bush

This is a very understandable action.

The Bush Administration's policy from Day One has been: If it is the truth it a state secret. If it is a lie make sure the press trumpets it 24/7.

Had the report said there was a connection between saddam and qaeda Bush would have had it plastered on every governement website in the country. It would be on Fox news 24/7 and Bush would be giving daily press conferences about it.

But since it says there was NO CONNECTION, Bush tries to hide it or classify it.

Hide it in the shaddows so people don't realize the bullshit lies they were told.

BUSH NAZIS

The report is based on the analysis of some 600,000 official Iraqi documents seized by US forces after the invasion.

it just occurred to me...

are these the same documents that were also made public, that the wingnut websites were going to study, take it upon themselves to
find the "facts"? i don't remember the details, just the story...
am i way off?

Bush wouldn't know what the 'truth' was if it bit him the ass.

Does anyone have this report or know where it is online? Can you link it if so???

It's not like Waxman, Pelosi, or anyone else in Congress would do anything with the report anyway. With all of the problems that they're already not looking into, the Pentagon report can just be one more that gets put into the back burner.

I'll just wait for the new version of the report to be put out by Cheney and company. It'll be a pop-up book written in crayon. Lots of pictures so that even GW can enjoy it.

katy @ 51:

The report is based on the analysis of some 600,000 official Iraqi documents seized by US forces after the invasion.

it just occurred to me...

are these the same documents that were also made public, that the wingnut websites were going to study, take it upon themselves to
find the "facts"? i don't remember the details, just the story...
am i way off?

I remember something about that but i immeadiatly discounted it because i knew then what i know now and there was no way in hell the right wing blogs would be able to make use of what they found.

bush and cheney don't want this out, because they are still
going into iran and this report with impede their new illegal war.

fuck bush and cheney time to IMPEACH these bastards before
we are thrust into another travesty of shame.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 55:

I remember something about that but i immeadiatly discounted it because i knew then what i know now and there was no way in hell the right wing blogs would be able to make use of what they found.

It is fun to see how they interpret facts. They're really good at coming up with the craziest conspiracy theories to explain why facts aren't really facts. It's that whole idea of truthiness (truth that comes from the gut and not facts) at work.

Next time kids get poisoned by some Chinese lead in their toys or gets hurt by some improperly crafted import, take a look at the freeper types and you'll see an amazing ability to somehow blame the kids or otherwise remove blame from our government. It's really appaling at times.

Following up: I just got a reply from the USJFCOM, saying that my copy would be mailed out tomorrow. I intend to post the content on my website when it arrives.

Where's the Weather Underground when you need them...just kidding...

The report of the report being withheld should have been withheld. Knowing things is un-American, and the al Qaeda that Saddam was aiding will surely use this against us.

Another Pentagon official said initial press reports on the study made it “too politically sensitive.”

Of all the things out there, this should not be something tied down by "politics" this is not one. This is about right and wrong, about lies and truth, and about the reasoning behind why 3,897 Americans have given their lives.

*angry mumble*

Eric @ 58:

Following up: I just got a reply from the USJFCOM, saying that my copy would be mailed out tomorrow. I intend to post the content on my website when it arrives.

Will we be able to download it and copy it to CD?

Talk about a report filled with nothing but old news. They looked liked they had to work on stretching it to nine pages. I like the the way they state that everything the Iraqi government does is terrorist activity. Lets do a report on our own government (US), you could fill three Blu-Ray discs with pages of U.S. sponsored terrorist links.

regards,
Dan

I sent an email to the USJFCOM via their website requesting a copy of the CD by mail and asking for confirmation. They responded IMMEDIATELY with confirmation.

Hannah Hussein @ 43:

Swashbuckler @ 5:

Incredibly stupid decision. That report will be online in no time, just because the government doesn't put it online will not keep it off the net.

It depends on the format on the CD. They could do a pdf in a graphic mode that would not be text retrievable and would require additional work, maybe even a lot of work, to convert

OCR...

jdw @ 52:

Bush wouldn't know what the 'truth' was if it bit him the ass.

actually it did hit him in the ass. problem he just thought it was
cheney sticking his hands up bush's butt again, only deeper.

And this is a surprise because? . . .

It has been well known that there was no al Queda presence in Iraq until we invaded Iraq.

We lied at first, then made the lie real with our political incompetence.

The only real question is, was this intentional or just incompetence.

After all, al Queda was a CIA supported organization from its founding during the Afghan rebellion against their Soviet invaders.

Asked why the report would not be posted online and could not be emailed, the spokesman for Joint Forces Command said: “We’re making the report available to anyone who wishes to have it, and we’ll send it out via CD in the mail.”

Nicole, and CNL readers,

Let's consider the feasibility of starting a campaign. Spread the information necessary to take up the offer above and post it on lots of liberal & libertarian blogs, encouraging people to do so.

We'll need:
1) Address to send the request to
2) Specific instructions

I do not know how to do this myself-- Any knowledgeable people out there who can accomplis 1 and 2?

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 21:

Well, let's get it and publish it on line!

Is impeachment still off the table Nancy?

Nancy's response is something like this -
*blink* *blinkblink* *blink* *blinkblinkblink*....in other words, still off the table.

McMike @ 69:

Asked why the report would not be posted online and could not be emailed, the spokesman for Joint Forces Command said: “We’re making the report available to anyone who wishes to have it, and we’ll send it out via CD in the mail.”

Nicole, and CNL readers,

Let's consider the feasibility of starting a campaign. Spread the information necessary to take up the offer above and post it on lots of liberal & libertarian blogs, encouraging people to do so.

We'll need:
1) Address to send the request to
2) Specific instructions

I do not know how to do this myself-- Any knowledgeable people out there who can accomplis 1 and 2?

and how much at costs. I'm poor.

I'm so shocked

living-abomination @ 71:

McMike @ 69:

Asked why the report would not be posted online and could not be emailed, the spokesman for Joint Forces Command said: “We’re making the report available to anyone who wishes to have it, and we’ll send it out via CD in the mail.”

Nicole, and CNL readers,

Let's consider the feasibility of starting a campaign. Spread the information necessary to take up the offer above and post it on lots of liberal & libertarian blogs, encouraging people to do so.

We'll need:
1) Address to send the request to
2) Specific instructions

I do not know how to do this myself-- Any knowledgeable people out there who can accomplis 1 and 2?

and how much at costs. I'm poor.

Second, you can always request that your local public library obtain a copy.

First, however, you might want to follow this link, originally linked upthread by ranch111.

Fox News announces its intention not to seek information CD. Cites as reason refusal to commit treason... just exercising my clairvoyance skills.

At this point I expect shrub to look at the cameras and say "War? What war?"
And the memo to the press:
From hence forth all mention of the word 'war' is verboten.

CD @ 14:

"too politically sensitive.”

Anyone else outraged by this?

Obama had better say something about this in the next 48 hours.

Indeed. And you were right this subject is worthy of its own thread.

Somebody should do a cost analysis on how much it is going to cost to mail out CD's vs sending an electronic copy over the web. Jeez....Our tax dollars at work

Andy K Jong Il @ 73:

living-abomination @ 71:

McMike @ 69:

Nicole, and CNL readers,

Let's consider the feasibility of starting a campaign. Spread the information necessary to take up the offer above and post it on lots of liberal & libertarian blogs, encouraging people to do so.

We'll need:
1) Address to send the request to
2) Specific instructions

I do not know how to do this myself-- Any knowledgeable people out there who can accomplis 1 and 2?

and how much at costs. I'm poor.

Second, you can always request that your local public library obtain a copy.

First, however, you might want to follow this link, originally linked upthread by ranch111.

And now it's linked in an update up top.

Great work ranch111!

DaveTheAngryRhodeIslander @ 38:

This is just one more brown stain on America's underwear while being worn by George W. Bush... Thanks George. Mission fucking accomplished!

more at my blog...

I love that. "Oops, I've crapped myself...again. Let's just hide them dirty unders in the desk drawer. Nobody'll notice that smell."

Andy K Jong Il @ 73:

living-abomination @ 71:

McMike @ 69:

Nicole, and CNL readers,

Let's consider the feasibility of starting a campaign. Spread the information necessary to take up the offer above and post it on lots of liberal & libertarian blogs, encouraging people to do so.

We'll need:
1) Address to send the request to
2) Specific instructions

I do not know how to do this myself-- Any knowledgeable people out there who can accomplis 1 and 2?

and how much at costs. I'm poor.

Second, you can always request that your local public library obtain a copy.

First, however, you might want to follow this link, originally linked upthread by ranch111.

230 pages. Is this theee report or is it the study?

Ron @ 80:

Andy K Jong Il @ 73:

living-abomination @ 71:

McMike @ 69:

and how much at costs. I'm poor.

Second, you can always request that your local public library obtain a copy.

First, however, you might want to follow this link, originally linked upthread by ranch111.

230 pages. Is this theee report or is it the study?

Not sure. Maybe ranch111 can answer that. It looks official to me, but I barely glanced at it. I'm saving it for tomorrow.

Is the CD rewritable? I'd hate for it to hit Pelosi's desk and just collect dust.

Peter G @ 76:

CD @ 14:

"too politically sensitive.”

Anyone else outraged by this?

Obama had better say something about this in the next 48 hours.

Indeed. And you were right this subject is worthy of its own thread.

Thanks.

And if Obama gets pissed about this I hope it's enough to get both the blosphere and PA to back him.

Andy K Jong Il @ 81:

Ron @ 80:

Andy K Jong Il @ 73:

living-abomination @ 71:

Second, you can always request that your local public library obtain a copy.

First, however, you might want to follow this link, originally linked upthread by ranch111.

230 pages. Is this theee report or is it the study?

Not sure. Maybe ranch111 can answer that. It looks official to me, but I barely glanced at it. I'm saving it for tomorrow.

Looks like the full study. Nicole's original link at the top of the thread appears to be an extract from it.

From the first page of text explaining who they are:

In the past three years, JCOA has conducted missions in support of the Indian Ocean tsunami, the Central American mudslides, Hurricane Katrina, the Pakistani earthquake, US Presidential Election events, OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM, and OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM.

What US Presidential Election events is JCOA involved in?

shantiquax @ 26:

koko @ 9:

So is the idea that when you ask to have a copy of this report it accidentally get's lost in the mail?

and then your name and address go on the post-22nd amendment list of potential problem people.

Bingo!

Ron @ 85:

From the first page of text explaining who they are:

In the past three years, JCOA has conducted missions in support of the Indian Ocean tsunami, the Central American mudslides, Hurricane Katrina, the Pakistani earthquake, US Presidential Election events, OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM, and OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM.

What US Presidential Election events is JCOA involved in?

Astude observation and good question...

I hate this government. Criminals who need to pay for their crimes, that's what they are, no doubt about it.

Old Billy Hussein @ 7:

These lying fucks...

Is there anything they won't do?

And yet people think martial law is so outrageous? WAKE UP

p. 94. Saddam's greatest concern was that - since no WMD existed - the American or British would try to plant them.

He should have realized that Bush didn't give a shit about little things like evidence, and that the entire cause for war was manufactured bullshit so that the United States could grab control of oil from a paranoid, incompetent dictator.

Something tells me Bush is too chicken shit to try the same thing with Iran. We seem to pick on very weak countries only. Bush isn't going after Iran because it's not an easy target. It would not go down easily, like Iraq. He's afraid to go forward.

This is an interesting turn of events.

How much damage to the environment and American's pocket books do you think the Pentagon is willing to do just to avoid telling the truth of which most Americans are probably already aware anyway?

I think as many Americans as possible should request this report in writing. Perhaps if they receive a deluge of requests for it, they'll opt to do the responsible thing and release it online as they should have in the first place.

ITS AN 8MEG PDF... FOLLOW THE LINK ABOVE (HERE) TO THE DOCUMENT, SAVE IT TO YOUR OWN DRIVE... ATTACH IT TO EVERYTHING THAT CAN MOVE AND SEND IT OUT...

well... so much for that secret

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/JDF-Saddam-Report.pdf

[Knock it off with the ALL CAPS, Big Dick]

Okay, just to clarify...one more time.

They're making it inconvenient, but not impossible, to get all of this report, right? You can still get it if you ask for it, right? (And I presume someone will post it when they do.)

-Scott

Scott @ 94:

Okay, just to clarify...one more time.

They're making it inconvenient, but not impossible, to get all of this report, right? You can still get it if you ask for it, right? (And I presume someone will post it when they do.)

-Scott

Scott... why are you defending them? They release reports on Britney Spears going to the bathroom barefoot but not THIS? TRAITORS! The lot of them!

So why is it "too politically sensitive?" Because it damages the Republican Party politically. The Pentagon, which is supposed to be an impartial government agency, is being used to openly cover up for the GOP over the Democratic Party.

they refer to using Harmony to examine all this data..

here is what the FAS site has..

HARMONY. HARMONY is the DOD’s and the Intelligence Community's media exploitation
database. HARMONY is the single, comprehensive bibliographic reference for all available
primary source foreign technical and military documents and their translations. The
HARMONY database is web-enabled and can be readily accessed, easily used, and responsive
to the needs of analysts and other users within the US Government community. The
HARMONY database application is supplemented by the Deployable HARMONY DOCEX
System application, a field deployable front-end application that facilitates field collection and
management of foreign documents.

Well, I guess I was wrong. I was thinking the whole Eliot Spitzer drama was intended to offset the report's release. I even asked around to see what other scandal or terror alert would come out to bury the report's release. I honestly hadn't thought they'd simply decide not to release it. Oh, I know many of us don't need no stinking report to confirm what we already knew. But there are still millions and millions of ignorant asses among our citizenry who will never know the truth because they depend on someone else doing their thinking for them so this strategy actually helps the neo-cons keep their sheep in the dark. Clever.

Why are we surprised? They have no morals. They break their own moral code - the Commandments they throw in our face each time an election comes up. I wonder how they are doing on keeping those Commandments. I had a look at those Commandments that focus on person-to-person relationships and are meant to guide interaction between people. Unfortunately, they tend to break them willfully day in and day out. Yes, theft, lies, adultery, want and murder. More on my blog at http://angryafrican.net/2008/03/09/breaking-the-commandments-republican-...

I'm shocked , its so hard to believe .

It's sad that people would rather bitch about Obama and Clinton that say anything about this.

Tomorrow photos will come to light of a three-way lesbian tryst between Martha Stewart, Paris Hilton, and Barbara Walters. That will occupy the cable news if the set-up (but hypocritical) Eliot Spitzer doesn't hold their attention. BTW, is anyone holding David Vitter to task? Perhaps I've taken leave of my senses even to ask...

As Granny Wisemiller used to say on 36th Street NW thos long years ago, "Fuck 'em, fuck 'em all." This Pentagon report should go viral, now that it can be accessed online.

Re: #73, 80, 84.

I originally posted the link to the Joint Forces Command document at #17. This report is called "The Iraqi Perspectives Project." It was the first project done by JCOA as part of the data analysis of the entire document dataset acquired by troops in the field.

In the IPP (which I acquired in 2006 as part of research for an upcoming book), the focus of the analysis is primarily on the attitudes of Saddam's inner circle and the Revolutionary Command Council on the US and the WMD issue. Highlights were published by the lead authors in "Foreign Affairs" last winter. But again, the document is about the strategic interaction with the US -- it is silent on the question of al-Qaeda which (as we all now know) was the subject of the full analysis to be released by the Pentagon today, er, tomorrow, er, never.

In general, I would have to say that the JCOA reports -- you can get an interesting one on Katrina, for example -- are pretty fair-minded.

Hemlock for Gadflies @ 103:

Re: #73, 80, 84.

I originally posted the link to the Joint Forces Command document at #17. This report is called "The Iraqi Perspectives Project." It was the first project done by JCOA as part of the data analysis of the entire document dataset acquired by troops in the field.

In the IPP (which I acquired in 2006 as part of research for an upcoming book), the focus of the analysis is primarily on the attitudes of Saddam's inner circle and the Revolutionary Command Council on the US and the WMD issue. Highlights were published by the lead authors in "Foreign Affairs" last winter. But again, the document is about the strategic interaction with the US -- it is silent on the question of al-Qaeda which (as we all now know) was the subject of the full analysis to be released by the Pentagon today, er, tomorrow, er, never.

In general, I would have to say that the JCOA reports -- you can get an interesting one on Katrina, for example -- are pretty fair-minded.

Yep... That was Iraq Perspectives Project - Phase 1. The document everyone wants to see is the Iraqi Perspectives Project - Phase 2.

I received an eMail confirmation from the USJFCOM Public Affairs that they will be mailing me a copy of the report tomorrow. Who knows how long that will take since it is coming snail mail and someone doesn't particularly want us to see it? lol

You can request a copy from USJFCOM Public Affairs on the phone at (757) 836-6555 or eMail them from their website "contact us" link with your contact info and a mailing address to forward the report to. There are a lot of people calling and eMailing about this report and I believe they are giving priority to the "Media" first, then everyone else afterwards. Though, everyone that requests it should eventually get a copy.

We have to get rid of every republicans running for office. They have for most been there too long. Hello Alaska! Steven is no better than Spinster of NY!
Every time I see Jeff Sessions I wandered why he turn red while he speaks, look at his cheek?

The Democrats, unaffiliate have come out in drive to vote for Obama. It seems that it is 3 to1 for Democrats versus Mac Cain who is a very scary man. He has a temper that showed last week on the plan, and show that he is really more war and no ending without explaining who would pay for it! We should demand that if you start a war under false pretenses and lies you should pay for it.

I think I requested the right report..... it would suck if I asked for the wrong one lol
I asked for.....
The new study, titled "Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents,"

I bet this puts me on another list.

I already answer my cell phone with........ IMPEACH BUSH...... Hello this is Roger

It's official: your government sucks cocks.

Orangutan. @ 48:

"We must speak the truth about terror." -- George W. Bush

"I am a total fucking idiot and a pathological liar" -- George W. Bush

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Maybe (s)Hillary can reread it for us...

How's that vote working for her now?

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lafin gas @ 16:

If you got nothing to hide, why the hell are you trying to hide everything?

Very true.

There is a very similar response given whenever someone questions the Bush wiretapping program.

The more they try to keep this a secret the more it will stink anyway.the pentagon are not the only one who conduct this studies. The more truthful unbiased European will. If they do that, then American interest world wide will be compromised. Because from now on America's credibility will be in question.

Really. Can you blame them? It would leave FOX news in a real pickle: Bush's preferred broadcast.

101 CD Says: It’s sad that people would rather bitch about Obama and Clinton that say anything about this.

Is America still embroiled in two wars? When was the last you heard? You'd never know if you just woke from a coma. You'd think it was election time, only, and naught else.

DAMNIT!!!
Evidently, our govt. has gone yet another step towards a fascist dictatorship.
Great.

Old Billy Hussein @ 7:

These lying fucks...

Is there anything they won't do?

Yes, tell the truth, defend the constitution, act in the true, best interest of this nation and it's peoples, try to be even a little diplomatic, accept scientific PROOF of global warming,
accept that not everyone in this country ISN'T a xtian.
I could keep goin, but I'm gettin pissed.

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 115:

Old Billy Hussein @ 7:

These lying fucks...

Is there anything they won't do?

Yes, tell the truth, defend the constitution, act in the true, best interest of this nation and it's peoples, try to be even a little diplomatic, accept scientific PROOF of global warming,
accept that not everyone in this country ISN'T a xtian.
I could keep goin, but I'm gettin pissed.

In my anger, I seem to have lost the ability to write a sentence. I MEANT to say, not everyone in this country is a xtian...GAH!!! I'm gettin more coffee, dammit!

I just tried downloading the above mentioned documents from the places up above that say click "here" The first time all I got was blank pages, the second link I cliked lead to a bunch of title pages and nothing else. So is it being blocked? Or what? I love to hate the way our "government" just does what it wants and only pays attention to it's own rules when it somehow benefits the corrupt weasels who have taken over government and big business. When the law might hurt them or benefit the American people then our laws are almost always ignored and broken. Since only the system can be used to fix the system and the system is mostly broken, there seems to be no hope.

thenervousrex @ 117:

I just tried downloading the above mentioned documents from the places up above that say click "here" The first time all I got was blank pages, the second link I cliked lead to a bunch of title pages and nothing else. So is it being blocked? Or what? I love to hate the way our "government" just does what it wants and only pays attention to it's own rules when it somehow benefits the corrupt weasels who have taken over government and big business. When the law might hurt them or benefit the American people then our laws are almost always ignored and broken. Since only the system can be used to fix the system and the system is mostly broken, there seems to be no hope.

Try this link for the PDF of "Iraqi Perspectives Project - Phase 1" but that is the old report from 2006. We want the one from NOW! lol For that one we to request it and wait for the snail mail delivery.

Can someone please correct the article above - the link to the report above contained at the line:

"According to our great C&L commenters, it can be found here. "

Apparently is NOT to the report whose distribution is being suppressed by resorting to snail mail delivery. The report currently linked there is entitled "Iraqi Perspectives Project: A view of Operation Iraqi Freedom from Saddam's Senior Leadership"

The one in question is called - "Iraqi Perspectives Project, Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents." I learned this from an email from Warren Strobel, who wrote the story for McClatchy:

". . . The report's title is "Iraqi Perspectives Project, Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents." You can start by trying to contact US Joint Forces Command (www.jfcom.mil)"

Please correct the article so it is clear to people that the report you link to is only the first part and not the one in question. And to avoid any chenanigans (i.e., "Oh, you didn't ask for THAT one" by the issuers) make sure you request the report by it's proper title.

Thanks

This is unreal. Oh wait, no it's not.

I put in for mine, so I'll see if/when I get it. It would be some work, but I'll try to print out the pages and then re-scan them into a file that can be downloaded/shared.

Should we take turns ordering copies for our various Senators and Representatives as well?

This is our Imperator, Chimpy McFlightsuit, He who talks to God, the Decider, the Commander Guy, the one who is not afraid of terr'rists and Ay-rabs but is afraid of the truth.

We'll need:
1) Address to send the request to
2) Specific instructions

I do not know how to do this myself-- Any knowledgeable people out there who can accomplis 1 and 2?

I ordered my copy from JSF's contact page:
http://www.jwfc.jfcom.mil/webapps/forms/USJFCOM/feedback.jsp

...within the hour had the email response "Thank you for your email. Your copy will be sent today." So I suggest you give it a try too. Be polite! remember, the soldier who gets your request is not the one who is keeping the report off the internet.

Pass this info around!!! More Info

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