Where was FOX & Wallace on the McCain/Hagee endorsement?
By John Amato Sunday Mar 16, 2008 2:02pmChris Wallace was outraged today over Obama's pastor remarks and I think it's very fair to raise the issue.
I did a Google search on Chris Wallace/John Hagee to see if he ever mentioned his name on Fox News Sunday and guess what? I didn't find a mention anywhere of this controversial---anti-Catholic---McCain endorsement. In fact, I found only one post on the FOX News website which was a video of McCain saying that he didn't have to agree with everything someone says who supports him. We know there was only a brief spot on CNN and MSNBC pretty much stayed away from it completely outside of KO. (Tweety was silent)
So, only as a media question: Why no mention of McCain and the barrage on Obama? Shouldn't they both be held to the same standard of coverage? How would Hillary have been covered by Chris Wallace if a similar story hit the news?
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Oh come on, Fox just wants the best for the
Republican Partycountry.Expecting fair and balanced from Chrissy and Faux?? Tsk, tsk.
Here's why:
"Obama's Minister Committed "Treason" But When My Father Said the Same Thing He Was a Republican Hero"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b...
It's different.
KEvin @ 1:
Please can't we stop it with the foist, frist childish crap!!!
what was the "crime" here is that the MSM focused on hagee's "catholic" statements and didn't even mention the important issue regarding is support of invading iran to begin armeggeddon and expediting the second coming of christ . . . or the eerie number of past/present politicians, including leiberman (funny he's supporting as a "man of god" like moses who insists the jews will recognize jesus as the son of god and be raptured) and john mccain.
here are two links EVERYONE should watch closely (our nation's future is cleary at stake) -- then, do as i 've been doing and flood the MSM outlets with the links along with demands that they are "fair and balanced!"::
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour.....watch.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig
i don't know about anyone else but i am terrified and outraged by this nonsense and the MSM's refusal to shed a bright light on madness. --makes pator wright look like mickey mouse on lithium.
Why no mention of McCain and the barrage on Obama?
Because pretty much everything Obama's minister said was true and embarASSing.
Shouldn’t they both be held to the same standard of coverage?
LOL! O.K.
How would Hillary have been covered by Chris Wallace if a similar story hit the news?
Same as McCain. Has the media pointed out ANY of the Clinton negatives? Nope.
Dale @ 5:
So right, McCain is a repub on board with GW and the war. Obama isn't.
Hey we went from THE super power of the world to a third world debtor nation under repub control. What say you to 8 more repub years? We should hold Fox' feet to the fire instead of just complaining amongst ourselves.
Hagee and Wright? Come on now, apples and oranges. BLACK and WHITE. Totally different. I know racism exists, but not in this case.
John...what are you fishing for here? How closely related do you think the two seperate circumstances are? McCain (who I do not endorse) has never denied his (limited) exposure to Hagee. Conversely, Obama has clearly lied about his.
We have to face the ugly truth that Obama is finished and we are just going through that process.
There is no comparison here.
As objectionable as Hagee is, John McCain got little BUT an endorsement from him. By contrast, Barack Obama has been umbilically tied to jeremiah wright for 17 years, calls him his "spiritual mentor" and literally drew the title of his book from one of wright's sermons.
And let's keep in mind how dishonest Mr. Obama is when he claims he didn't know jeremiah wright dealt in this kind of commentary. You don't attend a church for almost two decades without knowing the attitudes of the pastor who preached in that church for all those years. To claim otherwise insults our intelligence.
Now your all being silly, John Hagee is not a scary black man. That is the difference.
Slightly OT, but important
Short translation: Market veteran and founder of EF Hutton, 84 year old Joseph Granville, now editor @ Granville Market Letter says: "The market is crashing!"
McCain is Mr. White Safe America
Thats why Mr. White Safe Media is giving him a free pass.
yeah come to think of it I don;t remember seeing fox news commentator Dick morris commenting on the eliot spitzer debacle either...weird.
Yet another reason for the need of an atheist candidate.
CheneyIsADick @ 14:
Here lets put that in English
http://tinyurl.com/2br2lg
Doyle @ 11:
Comic relief. Thanks. Aaahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
L.A. Confidential @ 18:
Thank you, kindly.
I heard that Obama once spoke to a white woman!!
Why is the left wing media not covering this?!?!?!
Chris Wallace is wearing "outrage" because it goes with his new pink blush.
Who cares? Wright doesn't control Obama and Haji doesn't control McCain. Neither candidate has indicated that he would govern based on what these "religious leaders" say. This is exactly why religion and politics shouldn't mix.
freethinktank @ 16:
I think his mistress was changing his diaper at the time.
Because Hagee isn't McCain's "spiritual advisor" and person who brought him to Christ. Don't yell at me, I'm just quoting Obama.
Plus, Obama has given over $20,000 to his pastor's racist church, big difference.
This isn't gonna fly, stick a fork in him, Obama is done.
Please let Obama give a big speech on race tomorrow, we all know white America loves to be lectured to.
Obama broke the deal, white America would forget he's black as long as he doesn't' mention it.
Ken Berwitz @ 12:
To all of which, a rational person would say "so what?" But I understand that Republicans are not rational.
Yesterday on Fox's Sunday show they were wondering why Hillary's campaign didn't make more hay of this Obama/Wright story. I can tell them why. Her campaign didn't have to, Fox is doing it for them. Even in the midst this morning of all the talk about Wall Street, Fox was still constantly obsessing over this story.
They say that Obama was a member of Wright's church for twenty years while McCain was not a member of either of the churches whose pastors endorsed him. That's why they say the story about Obama should get more air time.
Personally, what his minister said makes no difference to me just like what all ministers say makes no difference to me. I'm more concerned about other far more important issues.
Liberal AND Proud @ 21:
NOOOOO!!!
He's going after the white women! We're all finished.
Maybe he'll use his radical, anti-American minister to convert them to Islam.
Left&Left @ 19:
Sorry Kool-aide corpse but there is very little to laugh at here. You candidate screwed a couple pooches on Friday and now you need to rethink how much more you intend to bash HRC in order to assure a GOP victory.
Liberal AND Proud @ 21:
Holy shit! That means Obama is really a white woman! Stick a fork in him, he's DONE!!!11!!!1
Thank god for these distractions. Otherwise, I might have to actually think about these candidates' actual positions on real issues. That makes my head hurt, especially when I realize that McCain, Clinton, and Obama are all essentially the same on the things that matter. I don't want to think about that, so I'd like some more high school style political distractions, please. Thanks.
joe @ 25:
I'm curious where you got that number.
Doyle @ 11:
So we know a candidate is finished when he picks up delegates over the weekend?
Simply put, Democrats are held to a higher standard. We should be proud..seriously, we should.
Are we at the bottom of the kitchen sink yet? What next? Are they going to make a big deal because Obama is half white and married to a black lady?
"Where was FOX & Wallace on the McCain/Hagee endorsement?"
Outrage on the right is politically motivated.
It's called being irrational.
Rusty Is the New Black Shackleford @ 23:
REALLY? wtf do you think: "bomb-bomb-bomb...bomb-bomb iran" and "more wars" is all about?
and can you imagine howard wolfson suggesting that obama's campaign is using the "republican" playbook to go after hillary?
what the hell is it goiing to take to wake this country up?
WOW!
THIS IS A GOOD THING:
Obamabots did not have to agonize all weekend over the Rezko disclosures. Having a racisit mentor is proving to be more politically correct here than taking money from a scumbag.
McCain is just an idiot either way.
Obama had so much going for him, but he just couldn't keep it out of the public.
From his friendships, to his pastor, his wife, and his own un-patriotism. It's cool to be that way in the NE. But some people from the south and middle states i went to school with are PISSED at all this.
We still all bleed red, white, and blue. If a foreign enemy invaded our land, as much as we are against the Iraq war, we have been through too many social studies classes to stand by and watch that happen.
It's important to be patriotic, but you don't have to be stupid, like McCain and his Iraq stance.
-Joey
part-time blogger at http://www.YourThreeCents.com
When a priest is caught messing with a kid, should all members of the Catholic Church walk out? Maybe, but they don't and no one blames them for what the Priest did.
The Republican Slime Machine has never had to deal with someone who is immune to its oooze of hatred and bigotry. Their desperation is becoming more and more irrational.
Looks like November will be a beautiful month.
pissed off patricia @ 33:
Keep holding on to that evaporating hope.
Doyle @ 38:
You guys hate it that nothing is sticking to him, don't you? Drives you nuts.
Old Billy Hussein @ 28:
LMAO! Yeah this radical, anti-American CHRISTIAN minister, has been waiting all these years to to convert white women to Islam....it's all so clear now.
Clearly this a conspiracy decades old...by the Radical Anti-American Christian Ministers Who Convert White Women to Islam lobbyists in DC...
I know because I get their newsletter.
Old Billy Hussein @ 32:
I would venture to guess, he pulled that figure right outta his ass.
Rusty Is the New Black Shackleford @ 43:
Yes I just soiled myself wondering what poor Michelle is going to do with all those invitations now.
pissed off patricia @ 35:
A black first lady. A "White" house filled with Blacks celebrating Obama's rise to the Presidency. We must help to make it happen!
The apoplexy on the right will be delicious to behold.
pissed off patricia @ 35:
No...but it's a story if he's half black married to a half white lady. Don't worry...we aren't even close to reaching the bottom on this yet.
Doyle @ 29:
Another psychotic "Hillary is being victimized" troll. I'm not going to waste valuable work time arguing with your sorry ass. This is a non story that only Hillary/McCain butt lickers like you pray develops into anything. Stick to this bullshit instead of the issues because Obama has been and will continue to kick her butt on matters Americans truly care about. I'll see you in the fall when you're ready to kiss Barack's multiracial ass, troll.
Rusty Is the New Black Shackleford @ 26:
Republicans AND Independents won't vote for Obama. Not gonna happen. It's over.
There are two possibilities left: The superdelegates will vote for HRC and HRC will be president, or Obama will be nominated and McCain is gonna be POTUS. It is absolutely, completely, totally impossible for Obama to win the general election now that this has happend.
The only way for him to make this right is to aquire a time machine and to undo this 17 years.
Doyle @ 46:
Bolding that statement doesn't inject it with meaning.
Doyle @ 38:
so there are completely delusional nuts here too, i see. the rezko story has no legs because it has no legs -- and you're not concerned about "hu"" or the saudi/dubai donations to the clintons and the clinton library? after voting for bush twice, doyle, don't you think you should sit this one out altogether.
see -- that's the problem...those who voted for bush on 2000 and 2004 haven't learned dick. they think supporting hillary (a neo-con leiberman-esque mole) is somehow reversing fate. it's getting very frustrating being forced to sit back and watch as these simple-minded, brainwashed zombies continue to destroy the futures of my children and grandchildren.
when i heard pastor wright i thought: he's saying the same thing ron paul is saying only with more passion and color --- and he's RIGHT!
"obamabots" we're not the ones led around by news cycles pal. we're the ones who research and discern. we're trying to save your asses from yourselves.
No. 44 @ 47:
Fireworks at the Inaugural will be provided by exploding right wing heads!
Michael Meyer @ 50:
Keep telling yourself that. By April nobody is even going to remember what you're talking about.
The "people" having a hissy fit about Obama's former minister are the same "people" that were having a hissy fit about his middle name. This is a non-story.
pissed off patricia @ 40:
Exactly!!! Great analogy...but these people who are raking Obama over the coals for what his minister said...they don't care about that...Obama's a powerful, intelligent and charismatic black man...and that scares the livin shit out of them.
BobD @ 6:
I didn't finish my comment. It should have said, "...fist McCain. He deserves it."
The sooner America recognizes this pathetic rag of a network for what it is, American Pravda, the better.
Where were they?.....doing what they are always doing. Destorting, omitting, twisting and lying with information so the sleeping American public continues to back these twisted Nazi criminals and this illegal war. It is their purpose. They LIE. Plain and simple.
"the economy is doing great"...they believe it, cause they hear it fifty times an hour. "Obama is a Muslim" because they hear it fifty times and hour. "Obama is tied to his radical pastor"....because we told you so, at least fifty times an hour. ALL lies and bullshit, but the brainless geriatric and greedy repugs eat this shit up as "fact", when in fact it is "Pravda fact" = bullshit lies.
Just when I think Wallace can't get any stupider, he proves me wrong, yet again!
Left&Left @ 49:
Thank you for "not wasting" your "valuable work time". I appreciate that up there in the nervous hospital there is a lot of demand for Kool-aide technicians. BTW: what is the fixation on ass kissing you demo here? Is this just white guilt or are you truly devoted to the act?
Rusty Stick a Fork in Him! He's Done! Shackleford @ 51:
She's going to use all caps for her next post.
Doyle @ 38:
Having a properly-spelled attack post would be even better. Nonetheless, phone me when you find some bullshit-flavored spaghetti that actually sticks to Obama.
Why is Hillary not speaking out abou the economy? Where does she stand on corporate welfare?
Hillary...it's 3 AM and the phone is ringing!!!
FriSat’s McAKA’s and The Big Pile O' McAKA's (link near bottom)
BobD @ 6:
Um....no.
P.D. @ 59:
Wallace is a pimp for Murdock, and his stock options guarantee his loyalty.
Gotta go...will check back to clean up any McMesses...please leave a massage ;-}
“Last word, freak.” - Melvin Udall
out
slippy hussein toad @ 62:
I understood your genuine concerns were more associated with "multiracial unity" but apparently spell checking and assholes seem to be the topic dejur.
Obama has more the delegates, popular vote, states won, money raised, etc. The only thing evaporating is support for HRC.
pissed off patricia @ 35:
It would not surprise me at all.
I'm just guessing here but I think many more Americans are worried about debt, foreclosures and their day to day expenses than they are about what Obama's minister said in the pulpit.
Rev. Wright was talking to his congregation and his congregation was receptive to what he was saying. That's what ministers do. They aren't politicians.
To be honest, I agreed with some of what he said in the clip I saw and heard. He was far closer to the truth than Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell when they blamed 9-11 on gay people among others.
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John Amato asks:
So, only as a media question: Why no mention of McCain and the barrage on Obama? Shouldn’t they both be held to the same standard of coverage? How would Hillary have been covered by Chris Wallace if a similar story hit the news?
It's not a Republican standard to hold other Republicans to a high moral ground.
I mean, see Senators Vitter and Craig. I mean, both plead guilty and one even attempted to bribe/influence an officer.
Republican motto: "It's not Justice if it's About-us. It's only Justice if it exempts Just-us"
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Doyle @ 60:
Doyle @ 60:
Left&Left @ 49:
Doyle, explain to me how a black man suffers from "white guilt"? Furthermore why does a bigot use so much "black" in express themselves? Man, you'd have to improve to be stupid.
Dr. Hussien Matt @ 55:
Wait... What's his middle name?
I don't see how Hillary Clinton can win this election at all.
If she goes into the convention with fewer delegates than Barack Obama and, through whatever means, gets enough super-delegate support to win the nomination, she will infuriate and alienate untold numbers of Obama supporters, especially among Black voters.
It stands to reason that they will react by either not voting for president at all or writing in Barack Obama's name. A few might even vote Republican in protest.
And if Clinton loses an appreciable part of this vote - again, especially the Black vote - it is a virtual impossibility for her to win.
For example, Pennsylvania is a likely Democratic state. But if you take away, say, 10-15% of the Black vote (probably more) from Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, is it still Democratic? Of course not.
The same goes for Cleveland and how it ends her hope of winning Ohio. Ditto for Newark, Trenton and Camden sending New Jersey (which should be a no-brainer blue state) to McCain. Then there is Detroit....but you get the picture.
So even if Clinton were to secure the nomination, I can't find any realistic way for her to be elected.
Eric @ 70:
And there...in a nutshell...is the reality.
OBAMA '08!!!
Liberal AND Proud @ 53:
This year ain't even got started yet. Wait until the rotating oscillator of the economy is impacted by the fecal projectile of Republican leadership. The mess is going to be horrifying.
I frankly have no idea what's going to happen next, and I usually do. But with so many indicators flashing red this year all I can say is the future looks incredibly messy and uncertain.
The only thing I can say for sure is, if anyone thinks the public will want John McCain to protect them from Jeremiah Wright more than they want out of the financial blender of the Bush Economy, they've got to be out of their fucking minds. Bush & Co. seem to have been unable to keep the train from jumping the tracks before the election after all. I'm not crowing with delight because I very likely am going to get caught up in it at some point -- I'm a working slob like almost everyone else in America. I'm just hoping that the right sequence of events happens that gets us out of this mess with our Constitution intact.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 64:
Did you get my McCheney from the open thread?
Eric @ 70:
Would a course in "Current Events 101" interest you?
Old Billy Hussein @ 75:
I think it's Jim..or Vern...or Chuck?
Doyle @ 29:
Liek you need to rethink how to address people? Not sure if "Kool aid corpse" is going to earn you many points. Ironic that you mention bashing in order to assure a GOP victory.
By your "we" reference am I to think you are a Obama supporter? Because Obama supporters are generally well educated and can decide for themselves to research a candidate or put all their faith in a very short biased video clip from October 2001. Go back to October of 2001, there were a lot of people saying a lot of stupid things, doesn't mean everyone believed him. I think there was someone claiming that Saddam had WMD and could nuke us in 45 minutes. WOW.
Lesson of this story: Obama is unbeateable - HRC getting scared that maybe the nomination is not going to be handed to her on a platter - and even worse - that she may lose to a black man! Oh the humanity!
Jeremiah was right, he just had his verbe tense wrong - damned not damn.
Doyle is the first person I have seen who admits to shitting himself as a means (?!?!?) of making his point.
Doyle @ 69:
At least you can admit you're an asshole. Congrats.
Ken Berwitz @ 76:
It's the economy - stupid.
McCain has no economy credentials. He even said himself that he does not know jack about it. This will overcompensate Obama supporters not voting for Hillary.
The post at fair.org 9Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting) entitled "Media Hold McCain, Obama to Different Standards" should be required reading for all of the media outlets. It is the only place where I have seen an unbiased analysis of how the media double standard is applied.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3316
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 81:
Don't be silly...it is "Bob". Everyone knows "Bob" is a homo-gay name....hence, the controversy.
Umm, well, he'd do whatever Rupert Murdoch tells him to do.
this is not the same...chris wallace did not link farrakhan to OBAMA's hip the same as he did not tie Hagee's to McCain's but OBAMA had a 20 year close relationship to wright. this is completely different in my view and to try to say it is the same is illogical. you do not have this sort of relationship and not share many of the same views or as i said before OBAMA is an opportunist. he may have just recently been tripped up from his ambitious desire. wrights church is a political/business network of support for blacks here in chicago. perhaps he put up with wrights belief for the networking benefits. i thought that was why he also stuck with rezco. it is now politically inconvenient.
Doyle @ 69:
You might take a cue from which part of your post I chose to mock -- if I took you at all seriously, I would have addressed the substance of your post rather than its shoddy form. As it is the former deconstructed itself so completely that I saw no need to pile on.
It's OK. You can try again.
Dr. Hussien Matt @ 89:
Isidore? Sydney?
Left&Left @ 74:
White Guilt Explained: It's a virus friend. The insidious aspect being that in the case of BHO skin pigmintation is not an assurance of immunity. The only possible cure is to make a genuine attempt to think for yourself at least one time per day.
My cousin is a racist. I don't agree with his views, but I have known him for 30 years, does that make me a racist?
Regardless, I thought the big issue was making sure that democracy was allowed to thrive in FL and MI! Hillary please save my vote!
IMO the final nail in HRC's coffin has nothing to do with her having less states, less money, less delegates or less of the popular vote.
It was when HRC said Obama doesnt have enough experience to be president, but Obama could be her VP; Obama called her out on the hypocrisy of that, which pretty much showed just how desperate HRC is.
Game over, man. Game over!
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Q U E S T I O N:
When will FOXPRAVDA and Wallace criticize congregations of the Catholic church for attending sermons given by pedophile Priests as being supporters of pedophilia?
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Someone got into this with me earlier and said that there's a big difference between an endorsement and the sayings of a man you've known for 20 years and consider a mentor. Personally, I have no real direct thoughts on either subject because I think their personal actions and histories will speak louder than this stuff.
Yeah where are all the useless polls? Where is the harsh word? Where are bozo talking heads.
This whole thing is bs.
I'm just glad Reverend Wright isn't running for president.
Doyle @ 94:
"White Guilt" is a reich-wing talking point. Doyle is exposed.
ATLien @ 87:
Don't forget the freedom hating and French loving.
Left&Left @ 10:
HAHAHAHA
You should have used . Some fools will take you seriously.
Pete @ 84:
He has that self-defecating sense of humor.
I wish candidates for public office always felt the need to distance themselves from so-called 'religious leaders'-- of any stripe. It's embarrassing that this superstitious, infantile crap is so entwined in the election system. Why not have a toothless kid endorse your candidate and say he/she's got the support of the fucking Tooth Fairy, too?
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tHeGaMeHusseinOfLiFe @ 103:
PrincetonPDX @ 95:
That does not make you a racist. You did not chose him as your spiritual mentor like BO did.
Also, nobody is accusing BO to be racist. But the question is, how the quality of his judgement is if he chose a certified racist to be his spiritual mentor for 17 years. BO said that this race wasn't about experience but judgement. We do not know how he would have voted if he would have been already a senator at the time of the iraq war vote. So we have to look at other decisions he made in the past.
This is an insight into his judgement ability and the insight is devastating.
Cat Atomic @ 105:
That is disrespectful. Any thing, Any THING, that makes a person better for mankind is worth it.
tHeGaMeHusseinOfLiFe @ 107:
Shhhhhhhhh. Let's keep the fools in the dark.
joe @ 25:
What? He's BLACK? Wow. I thought that stuff about his dad being from Africa meant he was a Martian or something.
What the oafs in the HRC rah-rah camp, the rightwingnut media gasbags and posters like Doyle would have us believe is that we are all responsible for the future actions and sayings of our friends and associates. According to these MENSAites, you should not choose your friends by the actions they have shown you and by the deeds they have done, but rather by the things they will do in the future.
In other words, they are insane people grasping at straws.
I for one agree with everything Wright said.
I do believe that America damned herself (as a country) when we willfully with a bloodthirsty joy decided to stage "pre-emptive" war against Iraq, a country who had not attacked us, and who posed no threat.
We were Goliath, and we went into the Middle East to beat up David, like a nation of coWards and bullies.
We damned ourselves when we sacrificed our Civil Liberties for the illusion of safety.
Now we have neither safety nor our Civil Liberties, and we stood by as King George first spit on the founding stone of our Democracy, Habaeus Corpus.
We damned ourselves when we let the poor in New Orleans drown, and sent lifeboats and gift baskets to the Oil Robber Barons who were already reaping record windfalls.
We damned ourselves when we allowed Abu Ghraib to fester on as a living wound, and further damned ourselves when we as a country parsed "torture" - using the same techniques that we successfully prosecuted the Germans and the Japanese for in the last war that America participated in that had any merit whatsoever.
We damned ourselves in these and many other ways, and anyone who disagrees with this has a log in thier eye so large as to make our national (dwindling) forests green with envy.
If Obama had been born with the color skin of his mom, what would the right say then? That he was a black man trying to sneak in with white skin?
Michael Meyer @ 108:
Up against John "$100 billion/month endless war" McCain? Not so much.
Ken Berwitz @ 76:
To some extent, I agree with your logic/rationale/reasoning and comments, however,
IF the Obama supporters are sooooo irrational and/or inmature as to
not voting for Hillary as the Democrat nominee(should that occur), or not showing up to vote, then they have perhaps indeed guaranteed a McCain victory..and MORE of the
bush administration...and conservative judges appt'd to the Supreme Court. I hope that
your opinion is incorrect...I, for one, cannot comprehend four more years of what we have been facing the last 7 plus years.
Pete @ 112:
That may well be the case that you believe all that. But still, it does not change the fact that republicans and independents will vote for McC if BO is nominated.
I just don't see the younger voters having the enthusiasm for a Clinton ticket that they have for Obama. They may not, not vote in protest, they may just lose interest. I hope that isn't the case but it wouldn't surprise me.
The way Sen. Obama worships God is between him and God. It's personal and private and a Constitutional right.
Obama beliefs aren't between Obama, God, and assholes.
I don't think I can take this pettiness and hypocritical hyperbole much longer. This isn't putting any meat into the debates. Meanwhile mcdrifter* is getting away with being stupid.
Go Obama!
Go USA!
pissed off patricia @ 117:
POP: Yep, my concern also...."I didn't get my way or win, so I am taking my ball
and going home."
they were where they are now.
They accidently persormed a public service last Saturday by broadcasting an entire Obama Speech. (They did so on the notion that Obama would denounce his former pastor.) ha ha ha ha ha
:<D
Pete @ 112:
EXACTLY! Chris and is ilk don't want to address the issues that Wright was addressing. They prefer to label him a racist and BO a racist lover by association.
It's "journalism" at its worst and overall kind of feeble.
tHeGaMeHusseinOfLiFe @ 109:
Of course it's disrespectful. Why should I respect your fantasies, especially when they intrude on public policy? And by the way, even if I agreed with your suggestion that relgion "makes a person better for manking", which I do not, I still wouldn't agree that that makes it worthwhile. Delusion is delusion, whether it comforts you or not.
Do you want your children to believe in Santa Claus until they're 21 years old, because the fantasy makes them behave better?
Liberal AND Proud @ 63:
saw her "speaking out" this morning and she made about as much sense as she did attempting to explain why obama wouldn't win the "big" states: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/16/clinton-on-the-anchors-o_n_9177...
here's another liar's beauty: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/17/clinton-camp-hedges-then_n_9190...
this woman is a disgrace . . . as are those supporting her. everyone of them.
Michael Meyer @ 116:
Michael, those are not my "beliefs" those are facts.
And the only Republicans and "Independents" who are going to vote for McC if BO is nominated ain't voting for HRC either, my friend.
The Religious Right says crazy sh*t often and it slides off. Barack's preacher said what he said and it causes a sh*tstorm. And who creates this storm? The Mainstream media (owned by powerful white people) and the right-wing talking heads (white people). I guess a minister decrying racism and the treatment of black people is a terrible thing, while calling the Catholic church "whores" (Hagee) and saying we deserved 9/11(Pat Robertson)is OK.
It's all part of the white-tinerary, er, itinerary to damage the possibility of a black man for president.
Because, after all, if it ain't white, it ain't Right(-wing).
BobD @ 6:
No shit.
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 120:
Left&Left @ 110:
HAHAHAHA
I can see it now. (dream bubble, wavy fade to dream)
a repug (you choose your favorite asshole) on a repug talking head show:
"I have proof that even dems/progressives agree this is a serious issue. Check out a blogger named Left&Left on a progressive board. Mind you he is very liberal. Can we cue the card please?"
HAHAHAHAHA See what trouble you can be in?
2fargone @ 123:
Guess you know that you are calling millions and millions and millions of voter a "disgrace"
right? Pretty judgemental aren't you?
Democrats with questionable ties paint themselves in a corner
They're a bit like me with my reputation.
If I told a joke like Redd Foxx and Richard Pryor
It would surprise everyone
Not only because I'd actually be funny.
No. 44 @ 47:
Indeed it would...the right would probably implode at that point.
You silly goose...McCain isn't a member of Hagee's church. Using your logic, if David Duke endorses Obama, we should crap all over little Barack. Foolish.
Pol Pot-O-Cheesesauce @ 104:
That was certainly fecesious of you.
Doggiebobo @ 129:
What was the final number of voters that were credited with voting for Bush-----TWICE.
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 131:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA
Bucky @ 132:
Well rash limpballs and (m)ann colter endorsed Hillary.
We just laughed.
Michael Meyer @ 116:
and they will DAMN AMERICA AGAIN IN DOING SO!
Michael Meyer @ 116:
You should check out the vote totals if you think McCain has a prayer of winning an unfixed race:
Popular vote so far:
Democrats 28,190,088
Republicans 17,246,362
Nearly 2 out of every 3 ballots has been cast for a Dem.
Left&Left @ 49:
Geez, you're being kind of harsh. Aren't we supposed to be working together? My advice to everyone on this website (except Repub trolls) is to try to figure out how we get the White House. That's what matters. We have to unite again or we are screwed. Think about it.
ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 134:
You nailed it. That's exactly my point...let's fight/be critical/and sling our negative
thoughts towards McCain(the Repug nominee) and not be doing the same within our
Party regardless of who you/I/we support.
Left&Left @ 49:
Is that why Hillary keeps winning the debates?
MarcyJ @ 139:
I am cynical. When you say "we" are you implying that the Democrats are the party of the people? Last I checked, no Dem has considered the will of the people AFTER being elected.
Doggiebobo @ 140:
You nailed it. That's exactly my point...let's fight/be critical/and sling our negative
thoughts towards McCain(the Repug nominee) and not be doing the same within our
Party regardless of who you/I/we support.
The Power of Negative Thinking?
Pete @ 124:
There would be many who vote for HRC because of the economy. They hate HRC, but the fear of the economy is bigger. But the Reverend choice of Obama is making it impossible for many of them to vote for him.
And swift boating will be remembered in a years time as a gracious treatment of a dem nominee. Reverend Wright will be the defining inofficial background topic of the general election.
Doggiebobo @ 129:
FUCKING RIGHT I'M JUDGEMENTAL! i've been awake for the past 30 years paying attention and informing myself and protesting injustices instead of voting for idiots and watching american idol and foxnews. i have suffered through their ignorance and watched my country disintegrate before my very eyes while they still believe everything bill o'reilly and pat robertson spew at them. i have earned the right to cast judgement.
and YOU should wake the fuck up and beging educating yourself on the things that i KNOW and not worry about other's judgements until you are qualified to do so.
Doggiebobo @ 140:
But all those voters in the last two elections did not consider themselves Republican. I gotta say one thing, there are going to be one helluva lot of disappointed people including on here, after the next election if the Dems win it. There is no way any president could fix the mess in 4 years, and the electorate are not patient enough to give two terms. Unless there is one pile of luck after the election, by 2012, the Dems will be squashed at the polls. The world is up for "instant" fixes that don't exist.
Bucky @ 132:
George W. Bush's pastor thinks that a 2,000-year-old zombie is going to clap his hands and condemn billions of people to a thousand years of misery. Sounds batshit crazy to me.
Bet you voted for him twice, too.
ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 142:
I do mean Dems. I'm sorry you're cynical and I don't blame you but we CANNOT let McCain take the White House. When I say we will be screwed, what I meant to say is TOTALLY FUCKED!!!!
nsr @ 138:
The republicans did not vote because they did not like the choice they had. The dems did vote because they liked very much what they saw.
Reverend Wright will be an incredible revitalisation of the republicans.
Michael Meyer @ 144:
No it won't. But keep hoping.
145 2fargone
Well I've gone to my share of protests, I'm ex-Air Force, Top Secret Clearance, Political Science and Paralegal Degrees where I graduated Deans List, Phi Theta Kappa, Golden Key Honor Society, and Cum Laude
But now's not the time to talk about my sexual habits.
MarcyJ @ 139:
Yes, I am harsh. In 2000 and 2004 I watched what happened to passive Democrats. When trolls(some pretending to be progressive) come to this site with outright lies divisive bullshit, I'll call them out on it. Judge me by the merit of my argument. If we honestly are "screwed" I'm going to fight the lies and bullshit. You do things your way.
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