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With this kind of insightful political commentary, I can't imagine why all the cable news networks aren't clamoring for more Éclats d'Noonan. [/snark] Former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan appears on Meet The Press to give her impression of the importance of Bill Richardson's endorsement of Barack Obama.

I am struck by how with his beard, Bill Richardson looks like Rod Steiger in Doctor Zhivago. It startled me. I was like “That’s not Bill Richardson, anyway who the heck is that guy?” Look, you know what I think the Richardson thing means? Seriously, Tim? It means that this wonderful voodoo magic thing that the Clintons have, that they are always in control, that they run the Democratic party, that no matter what is happening on the ground or who’s winning this race or the popular vote or getting the elected delegates, they’re in charge, they’re really secretly plugged in, they got secret wires that they’re pulling, they will triumph. When a Bill Richardson comes forward, it just reminds you, the Clintons may not be in charge. They may not be pulling the wires in this race. Indeed that may be a sort of magic voodoo thing that they’ve got out there that they’re always in control and in charge. And little by little, day-by-day, we see my gosh, that’s not true. She’s not winning in the popular vote; she’s not winning in the delegate count. She may not be able to win at the end of the day, after Pennsylvania, etc., in the popular vote. So it’s just another little sound…sign that this thing is not wired and interesting things can still happen.

Wow. First of all, can I ask why a Reagan Republican would be asked her opinion of a Democratic endorsement? And then, since I know Russert has some allergy to having a plurality of Democrats to discuss Democratic Party politics, why ask it of a lightweight like Peggy Noonan? Oooh...Richardson and his menacing beard! And then this ridiculous notion of the Clintons being some secret puppetmasters of the Democratic party, secretly pulling strings to win no matter the vote. Riiiight....this is the Democratic Party, Peggy. Remember the old saying "I'm not a member of an organized party, I'm a Democrat"? Those sinister behind-the-scenes string pullers seem to be on your side of the aisle, not ours. Project much? Note that it's not Hillary on her own, but "the Clintons," perhaps unintentionally confirming that so much of this bizarre attempt at a smear (Voodoo magic? Really?) is just ongoing Clinton hate that the Republicans have harbored since Bill beat them at their own game in '92.

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An Average Joe's picture

Noonan is a hack. I am so over Meet thr Press. Timmeh has about as much credibility ass Tweety. They all suck.

bryancri's picture

i think noonan would probably be better off writing prose.....not political "analysis".

C. Montgomery Burns's picture

I'll say this much for Peggy Noonan: at least she's not (M)Ann Coulter.

Steve's picture

She reminds me of someone gushing over her child's performance in a school play.

oldtree's picture

Guests like this are the best. It will guarantee the show's demise. If it were possible to reanimate dead tissue.

chris the new Paul Welston's picture

Richardson's is done for, he will never get another job in the democratic party, epically the Clinton II administration. He must really want that veep job from BO, it will be interesting to see how the Clinton's get him..

radiationmonitor's picture

Even handed commentary Nicole. good.

linda's picture

noonan's a freakin moron who believes in magic dolphins.
of course she's an honored member of the village.

Re: Richardson's beard.

This may be the first time Noonan and I have ever agreed on something.

The Truth Hurts's picture

As I keep saying, the time is soon coming when America will collapse under the weight of its own stupidity.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

On no Nicole! Now you'll be branded a *gasp* Clinton supporter by the over-the-top crowd. ;-)

ConcernedCanuck's picture

I will say one thing. It's fairly obvious why there is only two political parties in the United States. "Democracy" would be too difficult for the talking heads if they actually had to be informed about anything.

moniker's picture

What's the difference between Meet the Press and TMZ?

amilius's picture

Peggy seems to have a bit of the Reagan 'vision' thing, synapses misfiring in the jello of Red Kool-Aid addled grey jello.

P.D.'s picture

Is it just me, or is this pre-election coverage making people nuts? Day in and day out the MSM throw us political hacks and shills. You would think there wasn't even a war on. Or the fact that there are tent citiies cropping up. Makes me sick.

Max-Hussein-1's picture

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Who on earth did these Loyal Crhistians(R) hate before there was even a Clenis?

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Left&Left's picture

chris the new Paul Welston @ 6:

Richardson's is done for, he will never get another job in the democratic party, epically the Clinton II administration. He must really want that veep job from BO, it will be interesting to see how the Clinton's get him..

What the hell are you sniffing? Those McCain's wrinkled butt licking Clinton's are done....period. If Hillary steals this nomination with her fucking "technicalities" young people and blacks will simply jailbreak the Democratic party. Now try to beat old Johnny without your base.

Thinker's picture

I like Richardson's beard - makes him look smarter and younger. Remember Gore's beard right after the election? Seems to be a reaction to losing.

Samson-'s picture

the only thing reagan's former speechwriter is qualified to talk about is the use of language and rhetoric to lie to the public.

past that she is merely matthew's masturbation-fantasy

What would Zeus do?'s picture

Note that it’s not Hillary on her own, but “the Clintons,” perhaps unintentionally confirming that so much of this bizarre attempt at a smear (Voodoo magic? Really?) is just ongoing Clinton hate that the Republicans have harbored since Bill beat them at their own game in ‘92.

Realistically, Bill Clinton is a key figure in the HRC campaign and would also be a key member of her administration. That cuts both ways depending on how you evaluate Bill Clinton's value.

pissed off patricia's picture

A couple of weeks ago our local channels started putting George Stephanopoulos' on at the same time as Meet the Press. I thought they just weren't showing George's show anymore. We get Meet the Press at 9:00 in the morning and we used to get George's show at 10:30. I wonder if they see a weakness in Meet the Press and think maybe George can steal some of Timmy's viewers?

Had I known about this change yesterday I sure would have watched Stepanopoulos' show. Meet the Press sucked even more yesterday than it normally does.

During the time Peggy was on, there was a moment when she went through some bizarre face contortions. My husband asked, "Is she having an orgasm right there on tv?"

MCMetal's picture

Thinker @ 18:

I like Richardson's beard - makes him look smarter and younger. Remember Gore's beard right after the election? Seems to be a reaction to losing.

If growing beards was a reaction for losing , this country would have grown some huge-ass ones after 2000 and 2004 ...............

P.D.'s picture

Depression is setting in. With all the coverage of this election taking up everything in the news media, I'm getting weary. The only reason MSM is talking about Iraq is because of the grim milestone of 4000 of our brave soldiers have died.

crazy hussein world2046's picture

What are the 3 keys to understanding Repugs? Projection. Projection. Projection!

This is threadworthy?

It's not even spongeworthy.

MoxieGrrrl's picture

Reality... fading! Intelligence.... dropping! Nothing to do...but talk about.... SOMEONE'S BEARD!

I weep for our children. I really do.

Daisy's picture

I thought she was hilarious! Maybe she was auditioning for her own reality show.

Pawn's picture

By posting responses to these moronic statements made by those that have no real weight in the political arena will keep us on the defensive through the entire election cycle. What are we going to do when the repub heavyweights start dropping the big bombs. We have to get on the offensive and get big stories of repub criminality into the mainstream. There's alot going on, and the shear numbers of offenses that republicans have make it hard to remain focused on the more serious and horrible things that many of them have commited. Investigative reporters have to break into the republican machine and get the nuts and bolts of these situations and repeat the truth over and over again. We should not be wasting time on hacks, they aren't worth it. Thanks.

yo's picture

noonan afraid of richardson's beard?

I can top that. Everyone that goes to obama's church is afraid that the gov't is trying to give them aids!

what a hoot!

Someone wake me when I get to vote. I'll be reading Obama's first book now and trying to ignore all the bs about polls and such. If you haven't read his book, I have only read about 50 pages so far and it's very interesting plus it gives you some insight into what he's all about. What an interesting childhood he's had. He may not have much experience in DC but he's had a hell of a lot of experiences in life. These experiences should be beneficial in so many different ways.

I agree with left&left, if Hillary is the nominee, I think she will loose the young enthusiastic voters and I wonder if they will ever come back. They will disillusioned with politics in general

Yellow Elephant Safari (Hussein)'s picture

pissed off patricia @ 21:

A couple of weeks ago our local channels started putting George Stephanopoulos' on at the same time as Meet the Press. I thought they just weren't showing George's show anymore. We get Meet the Press at 9:00 in the morning and we used to get George's show at 10:30. I wonder if they see a weakness in Meet the Press and think maybe George can steal some of Timmy's viewers?

Had I known about this change yesterday I sure would have watched Stepanopoulos' show. Meet the Press sucked even more yesterday than it normally does.

During the time Peggy was on, there was a moment when she went through some bizarre face contortions. My husband asked, "Is she having an orgasm right there on tv?"

I noticed those contortions too. Frankly, it scared me a little. I thought she might be having an embolism though mainly because I'm pretty sure that repug women aren't able to experience the big O.

wideawake's picture

Men with beards are normal, shavers are not normal.
Shaving is a sign of not accepting a man's normal apperance.
These creeps on the right are not normal.

Hulk's picture

CoIntelPro against the WAR of LIES @ 25:

This is threadworthy?

It's not even spongeworthy.

I have to agree with this comment. That was my first reaction after I watched it...."who gives a rat's ass what this hag has to say?"

This is the way russert works. He seems to always have some neocon has-been on his show to talk about Democratic strategy. I'm waiting for him to have a few Democratic politicians on to talk about the repug strategy....not going to happen.

russert is a shill, and this bag is just one more voice of delusion. Two Americas....reality and the right wing.

dennis's picture

The lightweight Peggy Noonan:

Peggy Noonan is a columnist for The Wall Street Journal and the best selling author of seven books on American politics, history and culture. Her essays have appeared in Forbes, Time, Newsweek, the Washington Post, the New York Times and other publications. She is a frequent guest on political talk shows. She has also been nominated for Emmy Awards for the writing of a post-9/11 television special and for her work on the television drama The West Wing (oh my, that almost puts her in a league with Lawrence O'Donnell, but not quite). Noonan is a member of the board of the Manhattan Institute.....

Noonan is also the author of the best selling “The Case Against Hillary Clinton” (HarperCollins, March, 2000). ( Probably still not good enough to land her a gig on MTP, but might be a reason to ask her her thoughts on Richardson's endorsement)

...Her first book, “What I Saw at the Revolution” was called “A love letter to the American political process,” by Time Magazine. Her second book, “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” was called “the voice of our times” by USA Today. Noonan’s third book, “Simply Speaking,” was published in paperback as “On Speaking Well,” in 1999; Forbes magazine said of it, “Peggy Noonan packs a wallop of practical wisdom and insightful tips for rookie and veteran speechmakers alike…this wee volume, written by one of this century’s premier presidential speechwriters, will guide you correctly.”

...She holds honorary doctorates from Adelphi University, St. John Fisher College, Miami University, and her alma mater, Fairleigh Dickinson University.

For a show no one here likes much, the bar for admission seems rather high.

joeedugan's picture

Richardson as Komarovsky? I don't quite see it. However, the way that Peggy's skin is stretched tight over her face to the point her nose seems to be disappearing does bring to mind Ralph Fiennes as Lord Voldemort.

Samson-'s picture

pissed off patricia @ 30:

Someone wake me when I get to vote. I'll be reading Obama's first book now and trying to ignore all the bs about polls and such. If you haven't read his book, I have only read about 50 pages so far and it's very interesting plus it gives you some insight into what he's all about. What an interesting childhood he's had. He may not have much experience in DC but he's had a hell of a lot of experiences in life. These experiences should be beneficial in so many different ways.

I agree with left&left, if Hillary is the nominee, I think she will loose the young enthusiastic voters and I wonder if they will ever come back. They will disillusioned with politics in general

disillusioned might be an understatement.

and what have we seen/heard recently?

clinton: inferring that obama is not patriotic

carville: inferring that clinton is the messiah (yes, that is what i got out of that)

this is the sign of a disgusting and cowardly campaign (and i haven't even mentioned the 2 biggest fecal droppings, penn and wolfson), when hill/bill and their roving gang of rhetoric-thugs can't even make a claim, they have to infer and leave open the possibilty that they were trying to make a point.

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P.D.'s picture

Russert will pull out all the old goons and hacks of the political elite. We need some balance. Hey Tim! Put on some average Americans and ask what they think. Oh wait, they don't listen to peons like us.

Left&Left's picture

Richardson's beard? What about all that formaldehyde in your fucking face?

Dave's picture

Im really left wondering who cares? About MTP or this person?

Hans's picture

I'd rather hear fingernails screeching across a blackboard than Peggy Noonan's voice.

wideawake's picture

Pawn asks what will we do when the repugnants start dropping the big bombs.
They have already dropped their largest bomb, it's a stink bomb called McCain
and that is the best they can do, they have nothing left to drop but childish insults. Even their stink bomb needs to have someone hold his hand and make sure he sticks to the script. What a bunch of jokers.

Samson- @ 36:

pissed off patricia @ 30:

Someone wake me when I get to vote. I'll be reading Obama's first book now and trying to ignore all the bs about polls and such. If you haven't read his book, I have only read about 50 pages so far and it's very interesting plus it gives you some insight into what he's all about. What an interesting childhood he's had. He may not have much experience in DC but he's had a hell of a lot of experiences in life. These experiences should be beneficial in so many different ways.

I agree with left&left, if Hillary is the nominee, I think she will loose the young enthusiastic voters and I wonder if they will ever come back. They will disillusioned with politics in general

disillusioned might be an understatement.

and what have we seen/heard recently?

clinton: inferring that obama is not patriotic

carville: inferring that clinton is the messiah (yes, that is what i got out of that)

this is the sign of a disgusting and cowardly campaign (and i haven't even mentioned the 2 biggest fecal droppings, penn and wolfson), when hill/bill and their roving gang of rhetoric-thugs can't even make a claim, they have to infer and leave open the possibilty that they were trying to make a point.

i

Can't say I disagree with anything you said. I'm disappointed with the way Hillary has allowed or instructed her campaign to act. I didn't expect her to let it run wild like this. I don't think it is doing her any good. Those who planned to vote for her probably will yet, but this sort of stuff is not what she needs to win new friends to her side.

Agent Hussein Provocateur's picture

You got to find the Daily Show interview with this lady(I'd link it but am at work and cant track it down). It was a pretty 'Crossfire-esque' interview, Jon left her looking small and sad. He also basically gave an official-unofficial endorsement of Edwards' endorsement of Obama. Good stuff.

Blue Lensman's picture

What is Peggy's fascination with wires and the pulling thereof?

joeedugan's picture

Dennis @34 makes a good point. From now on I will refer to her as Peggy Noonan, the published lightweight.

P.D.'s picture

What really pisses me off is the fact MSM gave McCain a cakewalk. All the major Fuax Pas he made in the Middle East are qiute astonishing. But it barely made news. Are we as a nation that clueless?

sulphurdunn's picture

This is the same silly woman who used to project sexual arousal into her fluff pieces about Gorge (the flinty eyed straight shooter and macho cowboy come to restore law and order) Bush.

pissed off patricia's picture

Imagine the problems it would have caused Peggy if Obama's parents had named Obama, Barack Reagan Obama.

Horneet's picture

I was struck by a couple of things on MTP yesterday.

One was how it looked like P'Head made Noonan and Meacham sit over at "the kids table" while Maria and Erin (C-Matt's favorite talking head hottie) got to sit at the grown-ups table. Nice production values with the blue screen thing, too.

But perhaps what bugged me the most was how Noonan continually refered to the presidential candidate from Illinois as "Barrack" Obama (pronounced like "military housing"), rather than "Barack" Obama. This from an expert observer of the American political scene (allegedly). It's exactly the same thing as when the wingnuts to the "Democratic party" as the "Democrat party," in that it's clearly a calculated effort at disrespect and diminution. What is says is, "I don't even have the time or inclination to lear how to pronounce the man's name correctly. Barrack/Barack, she seemed to be saying, who really gives a fuck?

She's a beeeeeyotch.

Ron's picture

P.D. @ 37:

Russert will pull out all the old goons and hacks of the political elite. We need some balance. Hey Tim! Put on some average Americans and ask what they think. Oh wait, they don't listen to peons like us.

I have to confess, I have a beard, so you may might not want to read this.

These pundits live inside the beltway and go to the cocktail bars where the rest of the pundits and staffers go. They live in a world of their own. They don't listen to people like us because we are beneath them. they only listen to what they are talking about and are divorced from reality.

Bently's picture

When will the media get it into their heads that Clinton has been losing the whole time?
She's been behind since the start, she's behind now and she'll never make the totals she'd need to win.
Yet they keep insisting its 'neck and neck'.
Time to pull the democats together unstead of feeding this horse race meme.
Game Over- Hilary didn't win.

ysbaddaden's picture

I'm afraid of Noonan's plastic surgeon.

Is he Dr. Mengele?

Peter G's picture

It's not like you have to go to the Republicans to find bizarre Clinton conspiracy theories. There's lots posted by the foil hat brigade right here. I understand that some believe Hillary is personally responsible for global warming, crop circles and controlled demolition of "things". Now that I've mentioned it, of course, they'll try to prove it. Sorry.

ysbaddaden's picture

Blue Lensman @ 44:

What is Peggy's fascination with wires and the pulling thereof?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-8j8c7iL3E

ysbaddaden's picture

dennis @ 34:

For a show no one here likes much, the bar for admission seems rather high.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfsvE4j4ExA

ConcernedCanuck's picture

Peter G @ 53:

It's not like you have to go to the Republicans to find bizarre Clinton conspiracy theories. There's lots posted by the foil hat brigade right here. I understand that some believe Hillary is personally responsible for global warming, crop circles and controlled demolition of "things". Now that I've mentioned it, of course, they'll try to prove it. Sorry.

Newest thread up, John says he's sick and tired of liberal hawks. That would imply Hillary, at least by her voting record.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

Ron @ 50:

P.D. @ 37:

Russert will pull out all the old goons and hacks of the political elite. We need some balance. Hey Tim! Put on some average Americans and ask what they think. Oh wait, they don't listen to peons like us.

I have to confess, I have a beard, so you may might not want to read this.

These pundits live inside the beltway and go to the cocktail bars where the rest of the pundits and staffers go. They live in a world of their own. They don't listen to people like us because we are beneath them. they only listen to what they are talking about and are divorced from reality.

I've always been of that opinion of a majority of politicians as well. They have their own little clicks, where party status means nothing.

Peter G's picture

ConcernedCanuck @ 56:

Peter G @ 53:

It's not like you have to go to the Republicans to find bizarre Clinton conspiracy theories. There's lots posted by the foil hat brigade right here. I understand that some believe Hillary is personally responsible for global warming, crop circles and controlled demolition of "things". Now that I've mentioned it, of course, they'll try to prove it. Sorry.

Newest thread up, John says he's sick and tired of liberal hawks. That would imply Hillary, at least by her voting record.

I believe I'll let our host speak for himself with regard to Hillary.Personally I don't like putting words in other peoples mouths.

CoDave's picture

Nooners is a washed-up dope.

How she gets her community-theater poli-shtick on TV anymore is a genuine mystery.

I'm curious how Russert spends 30 minutes on Obama's Wright thing, and asks one question, to Chuck Todd, for a total of 10 seconds, on McCain's serial conflation of Iran, AQ, extremists, etc....

Anyone who doesn't believe that the MSM has granted McFourmoreyears a complete pass just isn't paying attention.

nezua's picture

I call them "The Clintons," too. Because...they are two distinct humans. Who live together, campaign together, and who would be in the White House together, and if you think Bill wouldn't have input into her hypothetical presidency, well...you'd be wrong. So I don't see calling them "The Clintons" as especially revealing of Clinton-Hate. After all, I did vote for Bill. But I do not disagree with the rest. (I know my agreement is important to you).

Samson-'s picture

Peter G @ 53:

It's not like you have to go to the Republicans to find bizarre Clinton conspiracy theories. There's lots posted by the foil hat brigade right here. I understand that some believe Hillary is personally responsible for global warming, crop circles and controlled demolition of "things". Now that I've mentioned it, of course, they'll try to prove it. Sorry.

so passive-aggressive of you.

so where is this tinfoil hat brigade, and where are the conspiracy theories?

Angellight's picture

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yellow dog's picture

Noonan reminds me of Harriet Nelson's evil twin. She looks like she should be brushing flour off her hands, but the rolling pin she's holding has blood and hair on it.

I have stopped watching the Sunday morning bobbleheads for the same reason I don't watch Republican conventions. They're nothing more than rallies for the McCain campaign.

nonbeliever's picture

Well said Nicole. Quite clearly Noonan is deluded.

james k. sayre's picture

Most all of the political "commentators" on corporate television are right-wing Republicans, typically either former speech writers for Nixon, Reagan or Bush I, or paid hacks from right-wing stink-tanks. This media propaganda machine is "objective?"

Obama and a VP running mate with a beard: that ought to drive the right-wingers over the edge... Even a thin small Van Dyke beard sets a radical new CHANGE tone... A little beardlet and the right-wingers all run out of the theater, screaming... The hysteria of the right-wing house of cards collapsing before one's eyes. Beautiful...

Peter G's picture

Samson- @ 61:

Peter G @ 53:

It's not like you have to go to the Republicans to find bizarre Clinton conspiracy theories. There's lots posted by the foil hat brigade right here. I understand that some believe Hillary is personally responsible for global warming, crop circles and controlled demolition of "things". Now that I've mentioned it, of course, they'll try to prove it. Sorry.

so passive-aggressive of you.

so where is this tinfoil hat brigade, and where are the conspiracy theories?

I don't believe in perpetuating nonsense about either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama. Feel free to supply your own.

I'm sorry, but IMHO, Richardson looks good with the beard...and Noonan's a triangulating twit who lost her relevancy with the exit of the Reagan Administration.

McCain the Liar's picture

I gotta laugh over Carville calling Richardson Judas. Now we learn Hillary feels entitled to the nomination.

Enjoy your vacation Barrack, you deserve it.

HB's picture

Noonan is so unctuous and predictable. In her column on Obama's speech on race in America she predictably went from praise of style to attacks on content. The bottom line for Noonan: Obama and his wife neither know nor understand the "real America." They're too removed from it. Noonan, on the other hand, really really understands America's soul. What utter crap! And it's typical horseshit from Republicans' inside-the-beltway Sunday school teacher. Of course Bill Richardson reminds her of the Rod Steiger character in Dr. Zhivago. That character was an opportunist of the worst kind who fucked his mistress's daughter and abandoned Lara's daughter to save himself. And that's the frame of reference concocted by the mind and soul of America's Republican Sunday School Teacher of the Beltway.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Noonan wants a nooner with Bill Clinton.

BTL's picture

Rchardson has a beard, Monty Wooly has wiskers.

Ruthless "Don't Call Me at 3:00 AM" People's picture

Only a conservative would wear a shiny gold blouse.

ysbaddaden's picture

nonbeliever @ 64:

Well said Nicole. Quite clearly Noonan is deluded.

Better deluded than denuded.

dennis's picture

McCain the Liar @ 68:

Enjoy your vacation Barrack, you deserve it.

You're right; now might be a good time for him to regroup. Maybe the less he says now the better.

RASMUSSEN:Nationally, Hillary Clinton now holds a very slight advantage over Barack Obama, 46% to 44%.

Looking ahead to the General Election in November, John McCain continues to lead both potential Democratic opponents. McCain leads Barack Obama 50% to 41% and Hillary Clinton 49% to 42%." Polls don't mean much at this point, but this can't make Dems happy. It might make McCain complacent, though.

woodguy's picture

Peggy Noonan: The most self-absorbed person on the planet...Isn't she precious?

art's picture

hillary clinton has virtually NO CHANCE OF WINNING but if she can bloody obama enough then she can try again in 2012. let our country be damned, as long as hillary can be president nothing else matters to her, and to think, for many years i couldn't wait to vote for her.

woodguy's picture

yo @ 29:

noonan afraid of richardson's beard?

I can top that. Everyone that goes to obama's church is afraid that the gov't is trying to give them aids!

what a hoot!

Took a survey, did you?

Kefa's picture

Peggy just hates how the beard feels

woodguy's picture

dennis @ 34:

The lightweight Peggy Noonan:

Peggy Noonan is a columnist for The Wall Street Journal and the best selling author of seven books on American politics, history and culture. Her essays have appeared in Forbes, Time, Newsweek, the Washington Post, the New York Times and other publications. She is a frequent guest on political talk shows. She has also been nominated for Emmy Awards for the writing of a post-9/11 television special and for her work on the television drama The West Wing (oh my, that almost puts her in a league with Lawrence O'Donnell, but not quite). Noonan is a member of the board of the Manhattan Institute.....

Noonan is also the author of the best selling “The Case Against Hillary Clinton” (HarperCollins, March, 2000). ( Probably still not good enough to land her a gig on MTP, but might be a reason to ask her her thoughts on Richardson's endorsement)

...Her first book, “What I Saw at the Revolution” was called “A love letter to the American political process,” by Time Magazine. Her second book, “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” was called “the voice of our times” by USA Today. Noonan’s third book, “Simply Speaking,” was published in paperback as “On Speaking Well,” in 1999; Forbes magazine said of it, “Peggy Noonan packs a wallop of practical wisdom and insightful tips for rookie and veteran speechmakers alike…this wee volume, written by one of this century’s premier presidential speechwriters, will guide you correctly.”

...She holds honorary doctorates from Adelphi University, St. John Fisher College, Miami University, and her alma mater, Fairleigh Dickinson University.

For a show no one here likes much, the bar for admission seems rather high.

I'm not too concerned about what someone else says about Peggy Noonan. I've read her writings and seen her on any number of TV shows over a span of almost twenty years and in my opinion she's a self-absorbed, histrionic hack whose drivel reminds me of some sixth grader's essay. I give her a merciful D+.

motorfingaz's picture

Who let this heifer out of her cave??

robyn williams's picture

yo @ 29:

noonan afraid of richardson's beard?

I can top that. Everyone that goes to obama's church is afraid that the gov't is trying to give them aids!

what a hoot!

That' the funniest thing i've heard all day lol

Dave's picture

ugh...such a tedious slag.

CEO,citizens,eyes,open's picture

We must fight the pols there,so we don't have to fight them here. The pols,like the jews hate us for our freedoms...uh...oh sorry wrong page. btl@71-I remember that ,good catch

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's picture

The frustrated Reslug Hag is so jealous of Richardson's beard because hers doesn't grow in as nicely.

JR's picture

No, Peggy, it just means that the fiction you and your rightwing nut club friends invented about Clinton "voodoo magic" is just that: an invention by the rightwing nuts. Why are you surprised when reality - that nasty reality - impinges on your made up beliefs??

ysbaddaden's picture

motorfingaz @ 80:

Who let this (old bat) out of her cave??

There, I fixed it for you.

ysbaddaden's picture

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh @ 84:

The frustrated Reslug Hag is so jealous of Richardson's beard because hers doesn't grow in as nicely.

How can you tell with her desk in the way?

if he had endorsed Clinton, he would be a well-respected Governor and diplomat.

however he went against them, so their allies in the media talk about his beard.

sad.

Peter G's picture

Stop me if you've heard this before. Aren't most people here already committed to one nominee or another? Why would someone like Angellight@62 imagine that that overcapitalized, over the top rant would persuade anyone to change their mind? The same could be said of the fools who persist in trying tar Senator Obama with a Wright brush. Are these people under the impression that, should their nominee prevail, that everyone else is legally obligated to vote for their man or woman. By perpetuating this mean spirited civil war they are working assiduously towards a McCain presidency. Take these silly arguments to the general population or anyone who actually is uncommitted and see who they vote for.

CEO,citizens,eyes,open's picture

Did you see the face on that mutt? A mirror of her soul? Now there is a woman who must pay for "a nooner"! Talk about striking terror in the hearts of man! She sure looks like they dug her up from somewhere deep underground.

robyn williams's picture

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An Average Joe's picture

Left&Left @ 38:

Richardson's beard? What about all that formaldehyde in your fucking face?

Bwhahahah!!!!!

That's cold, man, really cold!

I love it!

dosido's picture

amilius @ 14:

Peggy seems to have a bit of the Reagan 'vision' thing, synapses misfiring in the jello of Red Kool-Aid addled grey jello.

So that's what the thousand points of light are!

jimbo92107's picture

Peggy Noonan worries me. I get the feeling that if somebody dug up Reagan's crusty, withered corpse, she'd dry hump it.

Still, I respect her as a grammarian. Despite her demented, love-sick laments about Ronnie, she rarely gaffes on sentence structure. But she's far too hung up on other people's physical appearance.

Peggy, your ballroom days are over, baby...

Dave's picture

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh @ 84:

The frustrated Reslug Hag is so jealous of Richardson's beard because hers doesn't grow in as nicely.

If she gets one more face-lift, she'll have a nice beard--although she'll likely need a good color matching.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Dave @ 95:

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh @ 84:

The frustrated Reslug Hag is so jealous of Richardson's beard because hers doesn't grow in as nicely.

If she gets one more face-lift, she'll have a nice beard--although she'll likely need a good color matching.

ROFLMAO!!! SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!! LOLOL! Oh Gawwwwd.

feral's picture

richardson was my choice for candidate and president.
still is actually!

Liberal AND Proud's picture

She looks like freakin Skeletor in that picture!

Anonymous Source's picture

I remember back when Richardson first grew out the beard after he dropped out, one of the idiot talking heads (Matthews, Russert, etc. kinda melt into one being in my memory) kept asking him about it in an interview. Dude just grew out some facial hair, why do people feel the need to comment at all? It's so irritating. Everyone, do a favor to those of us who occasionally grow a beard, shave a beard, whatever - don't make such a big deal about it.

Alboy56's picture

The right wing, having manufactured this image of the Clintons as the personifications of pure evil, or at the very least, as being highly manipulative and sinister political ghouls, now insist, within the confines of their own little fantasies, that they're not really very good at being what the conservatives have fantasized that they are. They are still the personifications of pure evil, says Noonan, but they are bumbling demons, incapable of truly fulfilling the role conservatives have fitted them for. So the Clintons, ipso fatso as Archie Bunker used to say, are evil, their hearts, as always, are still in the wrong place, but they really can't create as much mayhem as conservatives say they can, because they're just not very good at being evil. Noonan's observations are just another example of how far off the deep end the right wing has always been about the Clintons.

Michael Keys's picture

C'mon people, let's be fair: she gave a thoughtful and nuanced critique of Obama's speech on race, despite being a Reagan Republican, so at least give her that.

Peggy Noonan? Is she still breathing? Who's next, Phyllis Schlafly?

bajasteve's picture

Rod Steiger? no way. Now, Paul Rodriguez with a few extra pounds? you betcha!

tanglewood's picture

They drag Peggy out of the mothballs every 4 years when we elect a president so she can give us her so very important opinions. Not. I didn't watch MTP and I won't watch MTP or Matthews--I don't give a damn what these people think or say.

I have contempt for them.

Peggy looks a little overdressed in that clip--had she not been home since the night before--because it looks like she has on a cocktail type dress or shirt. Oh well, when in doubt wear gold lame. She has hideous taste too.

Widespread's picture

Are you sure you've really thought this through -- Master?

- Meet The Robinsons

Joseph's picture

What This Is

This, like many others, is nothing more then the around the clock Clinton bashing from the conservatives who really want to run against Hillary Clinton. They contend: If we bash her around the clock, she will get nominated to be the Democratic nominee. If the former statement does not make any sense, it is not suppose to. However, this is the claim being made in regards to who the Republicans really want to run against.

I will admit there is now growing criticisms of Barack Obama but what needed to be done to Clinton has been done. Obama enjoys close to a lock in the delegate count. The conservative plan all along was to get rid of the Democratic front runner -- plain and simple. After dealing with the first front runner, they need only work on the second front runner. The reason you see increased attacks by the right on Obama is because it is time for it. They have dealt with Clinton.

The numbers are not in the Republican's favor if the Democrats use the unity option. Many in the Obama and Clinton camps threaten this option. I call it the Blackmail option: "I will not vote for Clinton if Obama is not elected, or I will not vote for Obama if Clinton is not elected." We must unite to win the fight.

The conservative media is working very hard to keep unity from happening. The use of pure hatred for either candidate is being used by the right-wing media at the primary juncture. On this very site, there are many who will not hear anything that sounds like unity. Especially, when it comes to comments about Hillary Clinton. I know where it is coming from; you need only listen to the Republican like talking points associated with the negatives toward either candidate. If it sounds Republican, it is rooted in their philosophy.

The unity issue will not happen unless the people responsible for it stop fighting. Keeping it simple, who would not want to see the Democrats unite? I often wondered how the Republicans could act in unison with their talking points. After reading the Druge report, I wondered no more. You can count on sites like the Druge site to disseminate Republican marching orders on a daily bases.

When you read a constant attempt to keep the Clinton and Obama camps at odds, don't feed it by given it a confirmation. If you throw unity in their face, they will become concerned for their existence. As it stands, the voters seem to be tired of the Republicans. The Democrats enjoy almost a three to one advantage in voter turnout. The last thing the Republicans want to see is the Democrats exercising that advantage.

Joseph

tHeGaMeHusseinOfLiFe's picture

She is a clack-a-dee slow talking phony woman. She made the same "joke" when she first saw his image. she believes her words are most important. Somebody give that woman a lube job so she can loosen up.

Man, is she stuck on herself.

designerman's picture

ok, i'm a fashion designer, so i'm gonna really pick up on stuff like this, but wasn't she wearing june cleaver's dress from 'leave it to beaver'?

i've never seen anyone in 2008 look so 1958 - even down to the gestures and expressions.

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

It's always good to hear the Reagan corpse fucker pontificate.

shawnster's picture

Noonan needs a NOONER. I swear she is so old and far gone that she wouldn't know the difference between a preposition and a pronoun. Will the Repubs ever get over Reagan? Most people forgot his amnesia when it came to Iran Contra and arms for hostages.

jackiesshrink's picture

Come on, this isn't fair. Bully Hannity, Krauthammer and Newt Gingrich all somehow managed to fabricate reasons to swipe at Obama's sublime and courageous speech. But Noonan, as she frequently does, ignored the talking points and acknowledged that Obama is the Real Deal.

Those comments were in an earlier part of the show (which is not even posted here), and they were basically ten minutes of unalloyed kvelling over Obama's speech (and what is so bad about what she said about Richardson OR the Clintons?). She is the only 'winger I've heard so far to give Obama props. Plus she's totally hot. She can have a voodoo hold over me any day. I don't know what she sees in Reagan and the previous Pope, but between her disgust with Bush 43 and her delight in Obama, maybe she is ready to switch teams.

Ron.j's picture

I like Richardson'e beard. It gives him presence.

Wonderland's picture

Left&Left @ 17:

chris the new Paul Welston @ 6:

Richardson's is done for, he will never get another job in the democratic party, epically the Clinton II administration. He must really want that veep job from BO, it will be interesting to see how the Clinton's get him..

What the hell are you sniffing? Those McCain's wrinkled butt licking Clinton's are done....period. If Hillary steals this nomination with her fucking "technicalities" young people and blacks will simply jailbreak the Democratic party. Now try to beat old Johnny

ithout your base.

Try to beat old Johnny WITHOUT the 2.7 MILLION of us in FLORIDA and MICHIGAN who the OBAMA CAMP is Fighting tooth and nail to Disenfranchise...

Try to beat old Johnny WITHOUT THE LATINO VOTE!

If the DNC think they can FORCE A PERSON DOWN THE THROATS OF DEMOCRATS WHEN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA ARE BEING DENIED THEIR RIGHT TO CAST THE VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE OF THE CHOICE, THEY ARE SADLY MISTAKEN.

Don't worry he is going to WIN the election for you in November with Wyoming, Kansas,
Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisiana, Georgia etc... DREAM ON.

Wonderland's picture

Try to beat old Johnny WITHOUT the 2.7 MILLION of US in FLORIDA and MICHIGAN who the OBAMA CAMP is Fighting tooth and nail to Disenfranchise…

Try to beat old Johnny WITHOUT THE LATINO VOTE!

If the DNC think they can FORCE A PERSON DOWN THE THROATS OF DEMOCRATS WHEN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA ARE BEING DENIED THEIR RIGHT TO CAST THE VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE OF THEIR CHOICE, THEY ARE SADLY MISTAKEN.

Don’t worry he is going to WIN the election for you in November with Wyoming, Kansas,
Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisiana, Georgia etc… DREAM ON.

James M. Martin's picture

Noonan probably sees a lot of movies. All the movies about Jebus depict Judas as having a beard, from Rip Torn to Harvey Keitel (King of Kings to Last Testament of Christ, respectively). Bill C. says Bill R. is a Judas for endorsing Obama. Bill R. was just trying to look the part. He grew a beard.

John H's picture

"Clintons Are Not Puppetmasters"

The Clintons are not Puppetmaster? And just who ever said they were? It was only the right-wing talking heads, like Noonan, who ever implied they were controlling the Democratic Party.

I am supporting Obama, but if Hillary somehow wins the nomination I would vote for her before I would vote for McCain. I may not approve of everything Hillary Clinton ever did regarding Iraq but she if miles ahead of John McCain. McCain has backed down on everything he ever stood for in order to win the nomination. As the only tortured prisoner of war in the Congress it is morally outrageous for McCain to give in to Bush on the issue of torture.

Peggy Noonan can go to hell for all I care about her opinion.

Joseph's picture

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 109:

It's always good to hear the Reagan corpse fucker pontificate.

Right On.

ysbaddaden's picture

Ron.j @ 112:

I like Richardson'e beard. It gives him presence.

So does bad BO.

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