CNN Poll Confirms Lou Dobbs Is An Idiot
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Apr 15, 2008 4:00pm
If you want to talk about who's "out of touch" with regular Americans, look no further than the Village Idiots that comprise the super-majority of our political press corps. Foremost among them is Lou Dobbs, who last night got punk'd by his own admittedly-"adjusted" poll.
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It's pretty funny that Dobbs doesn't realize that he's the one whose been stoking his viewers' anger and bitterness for the past 5 years with his anti-immigrant diatribes. There is nothing wrong with being "bitter and angry" about where America is at today. I would argue that you're not paying much attention if you're not.
By the way, the current tally now stands at:
I wonder if the media regrets having picked this fight, if only because it shows how "out of touch" they are with "small town America" from their cushy DC and NY studios.
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He is not anti-immigrant, he wants the government to stop allowing the importing of illegals as slave labor whose costs are passed to the local levels.
The fact that real, average Americans are bitter and pissed off by the way the country has been ruined these last eight years is a secret only to the on-air airheads of the chattering class.
kevin, you sure pulled that comment out of left field.... lol
maybe you could apply to be Dobbs very own personal clap track.
Who were the hundreds who confessed they were partisan and pitiful? wow.
pete @ 3:
He has never said anything disparaging about immigrants.
"I wonder if the media regrets having picked this fight, if only because it shows how “out of touch” they are with “small town America” from their cushy DC and NY studios."
<Nelson>HA Ha!</Nelson>
lol I love it! Racist Dobbs got served! lol
Lou Dobbs only wants people to be bitter and angry when he wants them to be.
It's kinda like Lou spends five years baking a cake, and then acts surprised when the cake comes out of the oven.
Eric Gray
Dobbs: Dumb & Dumber.
I wonder if the Obama campaign had polled about bitterness before he made the remark.
Looks like the Obama and Jack Cafferty crowd hit that poll.
Sad.
Out of those choices I'd definitely go with bitter and angry. Our broadcast news clowns are grossly out of touch with the people.
kevin @ 1:
Then he should be excoriating the Bushies. If he gave a shit about the middle class he would have seen through them from the first; but he would have had to have pulled his head out of his ass around 1998. Wake up D'ohobbs. You are witnessing the beginning of the end of the MSN and good fucking riddance you pompous over paid bloviator! God, that felt good!
He is not anti-immigrant, he wants the government to stop allowing the importing of illegals as slave labor whose costs are passed to the local levels.
If that were true, he'd support prosecuting those who break their own nation's laws by hiring illegal workers so they can get an unfair competitive advantage over their local neighbors. They create the entire market, they take most of the profits, and they are the least punished.
But he never does, he always pushes that stupid, wasteful, East German-style wall, so the only options are 1) he's stupider than mud or 2) he's a racist and prefers to jail brown people than the white people who hire them.
I guess I fall into the bitter and angry group!
Lou dobbs is most in need of a swift kick in the nuts of all major TV personalities. I see him as I flip past and he only spews forth venom. He's the worst kind of broadcaster.
Bob KASPRZAK hates rethuglicans and wimpocrats @ 14:
You've obviously never watched him, so I don't know why you're being so critical. He lambasts the Bush administration nightly. He's probably even more acerbic thank Olbermann is.
Bitter and angry? Over what? The cost of gasoline and groceries? The conflict in Iraq? The economy on the verge of a reccession? A new free trade agreement with a South American country? What is there to be angry and bitter over? <sarcasm off?
Every night fat ass Lou demands that Obama apologizes for the "bitter" remark. I'll watch his Mexican hating butt tonight to see if he'll stop his(and CNN's) propaganda. This story is quickly becoming a media driven embarrassment.
You bet I'm bitter.
I'm heading over to my church for some gun lessons.
Left&Left @ 20:
Dumbass, his wife is Mexican.
Everything I've heard from Lou Dobbs about immigration, was about illegal immigration.
But then I don't listen, watch or read him regularly.
I can't think of a reason to bash for what I have heard. The idea that corporations shouldn't be able to hire illegal workers, pay them substandard wages, put them in hazardous situations and avoid paying taxes on wages, seems reasonable to me.
If our corporations need Mexicans for a job, they should do so legally, and pay their taxes when they do. If there are more jobs than legal workers, open up the visa program wider.
getalife @ 12:
What is SAD is that idiots like you and Dobbs can't admit that you jumped on a totally bullshit story.
Your the idiot JA. While I'm more liberal in me leanings, like neocons, you damn Super Liberals
really piss me off sometimes. Try to see the big picture, if that's even possible.
I wanna vote?
kevin @ 22:
My soon to be former sister in law is WHITE and she's a racist, DUMB FUCK. She openly uses the N- word all the time. That's why my brother finally woke up and is dumping her sorry ass.
So Dobbs rants on Bush-that's easy. So he has a Mexican wife- so She's a citizen. that does not remove the denigration of 'illegal immigrants' That leads to hostility to all immigrants.down the slope.
Spock @ 25:
Super Liberals? How quaint.
Speaking of Polls, The latest figures that show Clinton and Obama don't take One Important Fact into consideration, Obama will get the Youth Vote, Young people don't have Land-Lines.
Your not allowed to Poll to Cell-Phone numbers.
Conclusion, watch for a big surprise when the youth come to the polls.
I think Obama will surprise everyone.
We just need to keep reminding the Young people that they are very important to this race.
Face it, big Lou has created his own massive cottage industry and makes 100's of millions with it. Glenn Beck is another nutcase who stokes the fires of the right wing to garner 100's of millions.
Most of the radio and regular TV talk shows are dominated by people like Lou, Glenn, Sean, Bill, Rush, etc...all blathering on about how much they care for the "average American"...while raking in the money.
I bitterly hate that poor excuse for a human being Dobbs.
Love this poll
Shows you how how out of touch Dobbs and most of the media is.
Where are the other idiotic "choices"?
-Happy and content
-Hateful & morose
-Twitchy & nervous
-Sad & bitter
-Tart & bitter
-Sweet & sour
these arseholes seriuosly believe
that you and I believe
whatever they tell us we believe.
fuck them.
now they have another reason to hate Obama.
Obama had them screaming so loud that he was wrong that they believed their own lies about the people.
So they asked the people
and the people answered.
OOOOOOOOOOPS!!!!!!!
Bitter and angry? Yeah, I guess that pretty well describes it...
When the Taiwanese have an excellent single-payor healthcare system while hardworking folks in the U.S. who just happen to be lower/middleclass either do without, go into debt or go bankrupt from medical expenses and the fatcats in business and politics refuse to even look at fixing our currupt system... yeah, that's got me kind of embittered and angered...
kevin @ 22:
I have to remind people all the time that it doesn't matter! People can be married to or have sex with someone and still be bigoted towards the 'group' that their mate belongs to. Hence Strom Thurmond having a bi-racial daughter and still being a racist until the end of his miserable existence... or Thomas Jefferson having either children with, or nieces and nephews by, Sally Hemmings and still holding her in slavery... or any random slave owner regularly raping the female slaves, seeing the birth of their children and still holding them in bondage... or the woman who married a Jewish man but refuses to allow their children to learn about Judaism (my bosses daughter-in-law) despite his wishes that they do.
What makes anyone think that having a mate of another nationality, religion, or ancestral background precludes one of being an out & out bigot?!
Isome Hussein @ 37:
Well said. I had a 'friend' who hated ni**ers.yet lived with one -She claimed she was 'Cuban' rejecting her slave progeny. It goes as it goes.
So its okay to be angry about Bush but not about illegal immigrants??
dosido @ 4:
I would say they were Republican, but their vote implies some degree of honesty.
Loonie @ 39:
Repugs always lie. I think it 'the joke vote'.
I laughed when I saw that on TV last night. What I don't understand though is how people at this site can be so pro-illegal immigration. The only people benefiting here are big business while immigrants get exploited through unlivable, less than minimum wage salaries. It's the equivalent of modern day slavery what the American government and big business (same people) are doing to immigrants. I'd be in favor of immediate amnesty if it didn't mean that a whole new fresh batch of illegal immigrants would just come in to fill the void.
Nope, got that part absolutely correct. He truly did. Problem is, the guy who said this is pretending that neither he, nor his backers, nor his 'party' had anything to do with it. The 'Who me?'
scam ain't gonna work anymore Barry.
As you will find out if you make it to the GE and the ReThug Wurlitzer takes you head off, right about at the knees, with this and the numerous other statements you've made about the state of the nation, racism or class. Statements made without any responsibility for the problems outlines therein assigned to anyone. Barry don't you understand? If you criticize a problem without supplying the cause of the problem...you become the problem. Classic Rovian bullshit and you don't get it.
Rarely have I seen a more inept campaign. It's so inept that teh awesome Internets have invented a new phrase for the tactics your supporters are now forced to use.
That would be:
W hat O bama R really M eant.
When the collective consciousness of the Internet is making jokes about your foot-in-mouth disease you are in deep shit, pal.
Deep, deep shit.
Still trying to deflect criticisms of Obama by using this fool?
Obamas' remarks were elitist and insulting. You can spin all you like but that is the facts. Us great unwashed and ignorant can't be spun on this one.
Lou is a manipulator. He might care a little about the subject but his main reasoning was to shore up his failing ratings.
Philip Combs @ 43:
Well said.
Philip Combs @ 43:
Wow... that was one of the most glaring examples of unprocessed thought and circumvolution that I've read in quite awhile.
Congrats!
I don't think the media or Lou cares what a poll says. They live in their own protected world.
Left&Left @ 24:
Yeah, the audio was a lie.
Check out the Obama post for tabloid journalism.
Of course Obama never lies right?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.ht...
BS.
If nobody is pissed, how could someone ever defeat 4 more years of bush?
Think before you post #43.
Isome - I got it. Maybe the problem is You.
Dumbass, his wife is Mexican.
And Cheney's daughter's a lesbian, so you think he loves the gays?
Isome Hussein @ 37:
Stop bringing logic and reason into this topic,
I felt that we were all better served by such erudite responses as "Dumbass".
Maybe it's just me?
David Hawes @ 49:
Nahh... it's YOU. You who ascribed a racial epithet to a group of people without knowing if the person you responded to belonged to that group.
Yeah, the problem is you.
seele @ 48:
People weren't pissed enough in Dec 00 and 04 and we got exactly what we deserved.
What you get is a Supreme Court chosen President and a contender who promised in 04 every vote would count but changed his mind when he got to Ohio.
p @ 50:
Well, he married Lynne...
Isome Hussein @ 52:
I'm sorry? When did I ever do that? You are grasping my friend.
No Obama knows the country is bitter. That is what he was trying to say. I for one think that at least he made an attempt to describe the thoughts of the average American. McCain and Hillary think all is well. That is why they tried to pile onto Obama about this bitter comment. Now it is becoming clear to both McCain and Hillary that Obama was right. Now they are trying to change their words to say they knew the country was bitter all along.
Don't you want to vote for the guy whom has the ability to call the situation accurately the first time?
My vote is for Obama.
miss_kitty @ 54:
*ba da bum*
Who took this poll? You give virtually no information about the poll itself. Did Dobbs take it? Did an independent pollster take it?
David Hawes @ 55:
Go back and read your own post... pal. You said, "but she IS one"... and I thought to myself... WTF?!!
The problem is you!!
I don't follow MSM, usually get my info from places like this so I didn't catch up with the whole 'bitter' remark when it happened, but when it was finally brought to my attention, I couldn't believe people had a problem with this. The MSM is so desperate for a angle or a hook they can riff on for a few days to help fill their news cycle. I mean were they suggesting that poor, economically depressed people were HAPPY with being poor?
Lou's polls are often the stupidest on TV. I can't tell you how many of them are 90+% in favor of whatever issue he is peddling. It's nice to see one blow up in his face.
DC @ 56:
Nevertheless, in the manner lately prescribed for those who slip up and speak truthfully in public and in contradiction to the reigning delusions, Obama was pressured to apologize for his statements.
p @ 50:
Excuse me, you meant to say "teh gheys." That's proper internet-speak.
This is a media driven issue, now turned a media driven embarrassment. Why is this site called 'crooks and liars'? Is it because we forgive our leaders for being inept, and we are sure they will change their ways?
IT'S CALLED CROOKS AND LIARS BECAUSE WE ARE PISSED OFF!
'...duhh, i am soo offended Obama called Americans bitter, everything is fine here, it's like the land the Teletubbies live in!'
Philip Combs @ 43:
I have to say, given the MSM's complete lack of interest in reporting context or meaning for any of the candidates, its not surprising that someone who has something deep and meaningful to say needs to have people spell it out slowly for the MSM.
Cause what I read and what the MSM reported were two different things.
David Hawes @ 38:
Huh'? ...lived with one what? One dog? One cat? One adult female? One adult female with ugly feet? One short adult female? One tall, slim adult female? One what?
Yeah, David ol' pal... you ARE the problem.
*g'night & good luck!*
Is this what C&L has fallen to? "Nyah, nyah, this 'poll' shows Americans ARE bitter so Obama was right to call an entire state a pack of frustrated gun-nut fundies! Even thought he was ALSO right to 'clarify' and apologize! It just shows how Jesus he is!"
Remember, kids: if a poll doesn't go your way, it's Freeped. If we, on the other hand, successfully encourage people to skew a poll our way, it's scientifically accurate and its results are law five exclamation points one one one.
L.A. Confidential @ 62:
Actually he apologized for not being clearer in what he was trying to communicate.
DC @ 68:
Which is a backhanded insult to the MSM for being to stupid to understand :)
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'Every last piece' destroyed
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/
"You can't tell any more the difference between what's propaganda and what's news."
FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein
15 August, 2006
His continual legitimization of the birther movement is unprofessional. The integrity of CNN is at stake.
Check out http://www.loudobbsisanidiot.com
FilthyHarry @ 66:
The mainstream media's interest in the truth is close to zero.
Isome Hussein @ 59:
Ummmm to make Myself clear to your overreacting brain, I was describing a former friend who hated 'ni**ers' all his life.he had hatred these people of 'color'. Then He lived with a woman and her mother and children who said 'We aren't black-We're Cuban' I was speaking the truth in an example responding to ANOTHER commenter. So shove it. Don't imagine bias,where there is none. These women denied their African heritage.when it was plain they were of African heritage. IF YOU don't get the point,then That is Not any bias on MY part.
Dahh. Nice post.
Obama called it way back in 2004 on the Charlie Rose Show. Check it out:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M
He made his point about small town people and their voting patterns very eloquently then. His point was the same but without the "mangling." Google Obama Charlie Rose 2004 if you want the full interview.
If Lou was hoping to have the majority cast their vote in the Independent column, he should have included the words "pissed off" along side "Independent" instead of the word "Proud."
Very few Americans, regardless of purported political affiliation, are presently "proud" of what is going on amid this fascist overthrow of their Republic.
"Party" is not a word most Americans want to hear any longer with respect to the way this country is being manipulated and divided (straight down the middle) by the Rockefeller-led, media driven charade that "politics" has become.
The "Party" is over, and Americans want their country, and their media, back, from those who have hijacked it to our detriment.
FilthyHarry @ 70:
Exactly. Obama was really trying to say Americans are hurting and are not happy. The MSM and his competetors (McCain & Hillary) tried to take the meaning of his comments in another superficial direction. That did not work. But by Obama bringing up the subject all of a sudden everybody must take notice. What do the American people want? How do they really feel about the direction the country is going in? Now the MSM has a big problem because the people are thinking for themselves.
Isome Hussein @ 67:
Nope no problem here. people here know who I am. The 'problem' s yours. I am secure that I Love people of all persuasions.
People, Obama was in a closed fund raiser with very rich and very liberal people. He said precisely and concisely what he wanted to say. It was so bad that one those very rich and very liberal men recorded and distributed it.
W.O.R.M is correct. there is no spinning this folks.
Read everything here to fully comprehend the entire scam being run on you:
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com
Think like a criminal, and open your mind.
RLF @ 79:
...W.O.R.M is correct. there is no spinning this folks.
I love this sort of logic, 'I'm right, you're wrong, and I'm so right that any other opinion is moot, we're done and dusted, it's over, the end, roll the credits and shut up.'
*Yawn*.
You sound like my ex.
[Deleted. Now you're off topic. Your comments go into moderation before they post because your need to pick fights and start flame wars on Senator Obama threads was becoming tiresome and a time waster-for me. If you'd like to talk up Senator Clinton, be our guest. But quit it with the flaming of people who don't agree with you business-Sitemonitor]
RLF @ 44:
You are completely wrong about Obama's remarks. In fact, your remarks are making me bitter and angry!
RLF @ 79:
Yeah, I have no problem with what he said. Its the MSM who misrepresented what he said in order to drum up some controversy cause its hard to fill a 24 hour news cycle with substance. Of course his opponents also misrepresented it, but thats understandable and to be expected.
Yeah, I have been pissed since the supreme court told florida to stop the recount, and I've just gotten more bitter about the situation.
I am an atheist, and I don't own any guns, but from what I have seen from the NRA, saying people are bitter and clinging to their Guns and their Religion cannot be something outrageous to say.
seele @ 88:
It's a non-issue. MSM never gives US issues. Just 'bitter'and gun-like drivel.
We're bitter and angry and we're not gonna take it anymore!!!
maybe we should do something about this?
Dobbs is a one trick pony. What an elitist.
RLF @ 86:
why don.t you do that for the Hillary haters?
If i am called a derogatory name I respond like Obama people or is that not allowed?
Post after post after post of the most vile crass disgusting language about Hillary and not one comment from a site monitor. 1 civilized comment about Obama Flamed.
If your not going to be impartial give it up and simply admit it.
[Oh, we do delete the off topic nastiness I see directed at Senator Clinton. And the flame wars that follow her threads around. If you see one that we have missed, feel free to drop us a line at the site monitor email (the link is near the top on the left of the page). Include the thread title and a link to the comment(s).
One thing I have noticed in doing this job, is that some people seem NEVER to notice when I come down on their 'side,' and I use that term loosely. I am not on anyone's side here. I just want people to stick to the rules we have posted here. We already let lots of things there slide. I am sure, that as an adult, you realize we are human and don't see everything. We try to be fair, but one guy's idea of fair is another guy's idea of blatantly unfair-Sitemonitor]
Who the hell is going to clean his hotel rooms when he has succeeded in deporting all the maids?
It's not that they will have to pay these people more it's that they will have to find these people do pay. We are talking about 15,000,000 employed people that he wants to deport. who will fill those jobs??? Fucking jackass.
What was the adjustment he made to the poll? Does he ever say?
Why was he laughing like a moron the whole time two weeks worth of his spew was blowing up in his face?
I can't believe I scrolled 90 deep and nobody mentioned this.
The ultimate irony is the inherent elitism of MSM reporters in their fabulously wealthy towers of power wondering on air if Obama is an elitist because of remarks that they refuse to discuss the merits of and how poor people might or might not be upset because of said remarks that MSM reports without any context or evaluation.
Dobbs is an idiot.
Frybread @ 19:
Isn't that a vaguely worded poll? Reminds me of the exit polls from the '04 election. What "values" were people voting for?
RLF @ 86:
I have to say that we have some of the best site monitors in the world here. They do a fabulous, marvalous, fantastic job (hands clapping in a standing ovation). Seriously.
MSM is terrified of an Obama because he can win despite them.They have even tried holding him somehow responsible for words that were true and not even said by him...Hillary on the other hand can lie and the story goes nowhere!
Obama tells the truth and the media tries to tell us all how we should be bitter that he said we are bitter.
The problem they face is that they ARE THE special innterest groups he promised to fight against.
Hillary and McCain on the other hand get free passes on alot of things because they take money from special interest groups and are therfore owned by them.
What was the adjustment?
RLF @ 86:
"...you buisiness...". TeeHee...
[Your slip is showing Andy K 'buisiness' tee hee-Sitemonitor]
Captain Elitist Hussein Kangaroo @ 101:
I agree. And site knows we've had some tangles.
Captain Elitist Hussein Kangaroo @ 95
Who the hell is going to clean his hotel rooms when he has succeeded in deporting all the maids?
Probably all those bitter and angry people with college degrees who've lost their jobs after they've been outsourced to Asia. There are lots of 'em...
Captain Elitist Hussein Kangaroo @ 101:
Even this guy defends you. If you want to know who he is read his threads. I guess he wasn't off topic huh?
I am in the bitter and angry category. I watch Lou with some regularity; he missed this reality. But no wonder: I have been unemployed for 2 years. I am sure anyone on this thread would like his salary...I would.
Not a Lou Dobbs poll! This man writes polls that usually come up 98% to 2% in favor of some xenophobic meme he is pushing.
Lou doesn't want viewers who think for themselves, and we shouldn't give any credibility to his show, which is all about stoking his ego and wallet. Lou is the biggest fake on TV; at least O'Liely is transparent about his bull.
Allow me to quote Nelson from The Simpsons "Haw, Haw!"
Time to watch Baseball! Good Health and happiness to all. OUT.
David Hawes @ 105:
I'm always curious what was deleted. They should make a 'deleted by sitemonitor' thread where they juust list all deleted comments. No posting, no context.
Bitter & angry & unemployed here in Maryland
I am an atheist who favors gun control and an open boarder. And I'm bitter. Where is a guy like me to turn?
Wow- that poll couldn't have been more biased. He didn't even settle for negative descriptors vs. positive ones-- he even further split that vote across two categories.
... And the STILL came out on bottom!
Our big media is pathetic, out of touch, and ELITIST.
Voters are at least as stupid as the candidates and incumbents. None of them are aquainted with taking responsibilty.
what percentage of americans have a 3 digit i.q.? is the percentage bigger or smaller than 1970?
Watching Lou Dobbs is a waste of time.
RLF @ 86:
Thank you. I was about to waste electrons responding before I saw this post.
What I find remarkable is that in this time where Habeas Corpus has been suspended, The President, after stealing two elections, openly declares he has the authority to violate any law he chooses, and the Congress responds by handing him their authority to declare an illegal war based on fabricated claims without bothering to check back with them first, American citizens can be declared "illegal combatants" by the President and be imprisioned on secret evidence, wholesale spying on Americans is being done openly in violation of both law and the Constitution, the administration makes a conscious decision to make torture and other violations of international law official policy, the Justice department is turned into some kind of loyalist political "goon squad" complete with corrupt and cooperative judges willing to jail political opponents up to and including governors, legal citizen activists opposing his policies are deliberately placed on lists and barred from travel to participate in civil action, the entire electronic voting industry is severely compromised, the federal debt continues to grow so enormously that it now threatens the federal government's very survival, domestic neglect and financial complicity has resulted in record home repossessions that at this early stage have already gotten so out of hand in some cases the banks can no longer afford to even reposess them, prices are rising, employment is falling, state and county, and civic governments are all sagging under the weight of neglect and economic hardship - yes, at a time like this, what concerns me most is what Barack Obama meant when he said that thing about people being bitter.
Why bother talking about anything else?
Dobbs is a racist "idiot." It's one thing to deal with an work on an issue deemed important, it's another thing be obsessed to the point of making it an issue every day of yor show.
Those are horrible alternatives for a poll. Like asking someone when they quit beating their wife.
I have noticed that people become bitter and angry as they get older ... is our country getting tired?
FilthyHarry @ 99:
That was an excellent analysis of the MSM and this entire issue in a straight-forward, no-nonsense, highly relevant sort of way.
tr @ 118:
Unless the distribution has changed in respect to symmetry around the mean then I believe it will be the same. This is because iq scores are normalized so that average = 100.
As a Mexican-American myself (or whatever I am, having been born and raised in Southern California but with a Mexican-born mother), I've never interpreted Dobb's rhetoric to be "anti-Mexican" as much as he's angry at the Mexican government...which I agree with him on 100%.
Of course, there's also the hypocrisy of U.S. businesses -- but that's an entirely different matter.
guillioutine @ 120:
Maybe the DC "elites" will finally realize how "bitter" the people are, when they start knocking down their doors with pitch-forks, torches and guillotines.
tr @ 118:
By definition, that would be 50%. (well, maybe a tad more, since 100 is supposed to be "average".)
I'm not really sure if anyone really uses "IQ" anymore, though.
I can tell you that far too many journalists and voters don't use theirs? :)
miss_kitty @ 55:
Correction, Miss Kitty. Lynne Cheney didn't become gay until saw "Nasty Dick" naked.
Left&Left @ 129:
My theory is he needed a beard, she needed a skirt. A match made in...well you choose the place.
Bitter?
Of course. Any rational person would be bitter that a gross and grotesque political and social aberration such as the Bush pResidency was allowed to happened. It's the lowest point in American history, an awful interregnum that has wrought untold damage and sullied our reputation around the globe. This simian freak isn't smart enough to be Mayberry's dog catcher, let alone the chief executive of the United States.
Of course, the bulk of this anesthesized country's unthinking, bleating masses are either at the mall or reading about Britney or watching "American Idol." They don't care that their nation now tortures innocent people. That don't care that the village idiot that H.L. Mencken (who's that? they'll ask) predicted all those years did finally manage to crash the Blight House.
Elitist-sounding? Haughty?
It's the unvarnished truth. We've become a dumb-ass nation that has lowered the presidential bar for all time. I'll always be bitter -- and incredulous -- about it.
The military-industrial complex Ike so presciently warned about has long since come to pass -- with a cretin at the controls.
The media is comitting suicide. Even the dumb viewers are fed up with the manufactured lack of substance malarky that is passsed off as insight. It is insulting! We have a President in office that is responsible for mass death due to illegal war, uses the DOJ like a private law firm, has dismantled and rendered useless nearly every government agency and routinely lies to the people. And the media makes hay over out of context insignificant statements aimed at adults with adult comprehension. The media is so dumbed down and irrelevant it is just a matter of time before the internet totally replaces them.
D.G. Bowman @ 131:
In one way I agree but would just throw out there that their ignorance may in fact be bliss.
Re: post No. 131 ...
That should have read "all those years ago ..."
Ah, we nit-picky, anal-retentive, accuracy-seeking, truth-loving liberals!
This article is ridiculous. How exactly does this poll say anything bad about Lou Dobbs? He asks a question and reports the answer. I didn't see this show, but if there was something more to what happened you should have included it in the clip. What you present here does not show him "getting punk'd" or "being out of touch".
Perhaps a better idea would be to stop randomly attacking a guy who agrees with you on 99% of the issues because you disagree with his stance on illegal immigration. You treat Olbermann, whose show I also appreciate, as your lord and savior, but lambaste Dobbs when he pushes the same issues just as much or more. You might find it's more effective NOT to attack people on your side.
xargaw @ 132:
I hope you are right. I can't wait for the day. I can only hope our news goes back to local interests, rather than 3 to 5 media congolomerates' CEO's personal opinions sent down through the ranks as talking points released on air, and/or DC propaganda barely even filtered through access-craving beltway courtesans.
David Hawes @ 73:
You're an IDIOT of the highest order. If the woman is from Cuba, she is CUBAN!! She lives or lived a CUBAN culture and speaks a CUBAN dialect of Spanish. If her parents are/were from CUBA, like other first generation immigrants, she is doing what is common and refers to herself as CUBAN! African descended people live throughout the world, so it is not unusual for someone to refer to their NATIONALITY and not their race, you imbecilic twit.
Just because she didn't refer to herself as AFRO-Cuban doesn't mean she was trying to hide or deny anything. Furthermore, you CONTINUE to refer to African descended people with a racial epithet as though it is universally acceptable as opposed to obviously controversial and inflammatory. Neither Black nor African American is interchangeable with that particularly rancid pejorative that you use, which leads us right back to the beginning:
You ARE the problem.
Otay @ 136:
To some extent, it is already happening.
The Media Filter Bypass role of the Internet is (along with the media's deplorable performance) killing their sales.
Ironically, ownership's shortsighted devotion to profit and personal financial impact of the news, they have killed their own business.
The blunted response to the media-driven frenzy over "bittergate" was most likely a result of Internet discussion and coverage. (Even though the story originated on the Internet, it was the MSM that chose to magnify it.)
But the Internet will not replace the MSM. It may MERGE with it in some way, with ongoing coexistence. However, some stories still take payrolls and financial strength to cover. Good investigative journalism will still come from the MSM. (There is some there now, it is just so rare, we don't notice.)
Once the Internet allows a fuller bypass of media information control, the political influence shrinks, and the shrinking viewer/readership further erode the ability of news organizations to be self-supporting, some of this ownership concentration will dissolve. Units may be spun off or divested, and a new/old business model that is more supportive of real reporting will emerge.
We just have to weather this terrible storm in the mean time.
Just like Ive been saying over and over again for 25 yrs, the so-called mainstream press is the enemy of the American citizenry.
Liberal press my ass!!!
kep306 @ 8:
EXACTLY!!
Big surprise!
How elitist it was for Obama to say that people are bitter about the government....oh, ~67% are bitter?....uh, on to our next story about Obama's bowling catastrophe and how America will be destroyed by his poor bowling skills, or his like for orange juice instead of coffee....
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Just slightly bitter and mostly angry.
DISGUSTED is more accurate, IMHO.
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If Americans are so bitter and angry all I want to know is
what are they going to do about it? I mean for real, what
is America going to really do about it?
Probably nothing as usual.
It’s pretty funny that Dobbs doesn’t realize that he’s the one whose been stoking his viewers’ anger and bitterness for the past 5 years with his anti-immigrant diatribes
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what anti immigrant diatribes??? dont you mean anti-illegal immigrant diatribes?? or how about his diatribes about corporate america and the bushies destroying the middle class?
want open borders? fine...then make sure we can all get a living wage
why wont the far left get it...anti illegal immigration is a progressive talking point...illegal immigration depresses wages, lowers educational standards and destroys our unions
outsourcing does the same
enuf is enuf
Okay, I love this site, and I certainly haven't read all of the posts, but; c'mon people. I heard the broadcast where this poll question was asked, and it was served up as a joke.
And for the last time: NO ONE CARES ABOUT BEING CALLED "BITTER". They are angry that Obama essentially accused anyone of having religion, being into guns, or worrying about border security of doing so out of insecurity and furstration, not out of any inherent value in those issues. Odd, actually, considering he clearly takes religion seriously enough to take massive political damamge to stand by his own; but why did it take him so long to figure out the crux of the matter? Baaaad political instincts.
-Scott
Where is think to the poll, or was it only offline?
gnuorder @ 147:
Think? I meant link.
You're damn right I am bitter! I hope all the media takes a black eye over this. Obama hit the nail on the head and if we don't get a government that responds to the people soon we will see the why the founding fathers add the second amendment. OPPRESSION SUCKS !
This is in response to #22, Just because you are married to a member of a Particular racial background or ethnicity, does not mean you love that group as a whole, and who is to say that his wife who is apparently affluent (thanks to him) has not assimilated his ideas of racial bigotry
Several weeks ago, Lou Dobbs showed a speech by Obama saying that he along with some other pondents were anti-immigrant. Lou got mad and asked Obama to apoligize. He did not. Since then, Lou has been trashing Obama every chance he gets.
Lou has used his show to go after Obama because he is mad at him. Lou is childish and petty at the least. When the poll came out saying the majority are bitter, he really looked like a fool.
I have no respect for Lou Dobbs.
Scott @ 146:
So now you know why the are bitter. You speak for "them" too?
See how stupid you sound.
Lone @ 75:
Thanks for the clip. Its amazing how we have to do our own research because the media will not. This is the difference this election year, the internet. It can't be controlled. Thats why Obama is getting record funds and votes. I will pass this on to others. Good work.
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