Sean Hannity Boasts About Punking George Stephanopoulos
By Bill W. Friday Apr 18, 2008 2:45pm
Hannity's laughing at you, George, for making him the only clear winner of last Wednesday's debate.
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Hannity: The liberal blogs are losing their minds today in part because I suggested the question to George Stephanopoulos Tues afternoon on my radio show.
While we've had plenty of criticism for MSNBC's and CNN's debate coverage this season, nothing they did came anywhere near to what ABC pulled last Wednesday and Stephanopoulos' on-air dumpster diving for gotcha questions on Hannity's radio show will likely go down as one of the dumbest moves by a debate moderator ever. We've come to expect smear jobs like this from the likes of Hannity, and the Dems have rightly refused to attend any debate on the GOP/Fox News Channel because of it, but now we have ABC News's Chief Washington Correspondent and former Democratic presidential political adviser openly seeking their advice and unapologetically emulating them.
How is it that Stephanopoulos, of all people, thought this was a good move? Josh Marshall offers this depressingly valid observation:
I was mulling over the ABC debate this morning and the moderators' claim that knocking Obama with a more or less uninterrupted stream of Swift Boat gotchas was justified by focusing the debate on 'electability'. And it occurred to me that we have now crossed an important threshold where the Republican operative cadre has sufficiently disciplined and trained the press (and more than a few Democrats) that their own role may simply be redundant. ...
Thankfully, there are still more than a handful of journalists who aren't GOP pawns who together have penned a letter slamming ABC for its debate debacle.
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These Idiots really like to Blow their Own Horn don't they?
Given a chance they will brag about anything.
Ah Disney that paragon of uber fascism and mind control of small children and feeble adults.
What does Hannity have business doing suggesting a question and that suggestion being accepted at a Democratic debate?
General_Rennenkampf @ 3:
Ask the DLC
With all the bad reviews that the "debate" got for it's moderation why would shammity want to take credit for it?
When he was in school did he interpret his F's as meaning he was more cutting edge than his teachers?
On the bright side...if Barack Obama becomes president, how much tolerance do you think he'll have for the continued corporate media monopoly? Do ya think he'll be a little sympathetic to the fact that US citizens have lost the ability to get fair, balanced, accurate, timely, important coverage by corporate media?
Corporate media will do everything in its power to kill Obama's chances. Clinton, on the other hand, seemed to relish all of this during the ABC bullshit drama; somehow, I sense she would not do much to break up the monopoly.
The only good thing with this debacle is that maybe MSM will actually realize it went too far this time. Hopefully it will mean that they will focus more on the real issues and less on "character issues".
Anybody else notice that the Hannity & Colmes HC logo looks uncannily like a swastika if you squint a tad.
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It is shocking to know that ABC news NEVER thought it UNWISE to have George Stephanapolous moderate a debate involving former clients -- the Clients -- when the bias is OBVIOUS to many!
Actually, an interesting question for the candidates would be what their stands are on corporate media consolidation and breaking up media monopolies.
I'm so sick of fools spewing garbage and acting like they're dispensing the wisdom of the gods. The collection of idiots calling themselves "journalists" these days wouldn't know real discourse if it bit them in their pasty white asses. If they were confronted with actual intelligence their heads would probably explode. Hey, that sounds like fun. We could film faux on air 'personalities' exploding one by one.
I'd pay to see that.
ferrofluid @ 4:
So? It doesn't make sense. Hannity is a Republican talking head, and a rather effectively bullying one. Why would he use a "Liberal" to ask a question, anywho? I thought Liberals and Liberal-aligned people were Satanic spawn of the devil who wanted to turn America over the uppity Islams.
So, why would he have dealings with Georgie Porgie, much less give him a question to ask? Something smells here....
And it ain't you...
Sean Hannity is one of those hilariously ignorant adults who will evacuate a rancid pile of shit into his drawers, then walk around proudly showing off his poo. For him to understand what a twat he is would require him to have a sense of self-respect.
ferrofluid @ 8:
Yeah, but be careful. The swastika is a Buddhist symbol and a Hindu one as well as a Nazi one. Of course, Hannity wouldn't use something like that while thinking of Buddhism, but still, it's not just a Nazi symbol, according to what I've read on the followers of Gautama.
Punking George Stephanopoulos or Pimping George Stephanopoulos?
The swastika also was a common symbol in countryside America, and could be found in quilted hand made blankets, most commonly with more of an S shape than a Z.
The other day I was feigning confusion over the spelling of swastika, and at one point called it a swashiksa. I was merely conflating the words swastika and shiksa.
High on the list of things this country desperately needs is an Independent, Curious, Relentless, Reality-Based Media ..
And if this
debatedebacle can help bring that about, so much the better... teetering on the edge of Peak Oil, Catastrophic Climate Change, Global Economic Collapse, World War Three and Full Blown Fascism all at the same time .. a bit much to take all at once .. an Independent Media could be really helpful ..
Okay george Stepanopoulos, you must be so proud today. You were used by the lowest common denominator of the cable news channels and it backfired on you. Who would have seen that coming? I'll give you a hint. Anyone who has ever heard one word uttered from Hannity's mouth would have known that bastard is in it for reasons that would only benefit him.
C. Montgomery Burns @ 15:
I remember at one time the term punking meant anal-penile penetration.
eric @ 9:
now we know what that basement Teenygopper 'chris' sounds like
'chris' got his famous 15 seconds in here
10 Debate Questions John McCain Will Never Be Asked:
1. Do you agree with Pastor John Hagee that war with Iran is the fulfillment of biblical prophecy?
2. Doesn't your legendary temper make you too dangerous to be trusted with the presidency of the United States?
3. Doesn't your confusion regarding basic facts about the war in Iraq, including repeatedly citing a nonexistent Al Qaeda-Iran alliance, make you unfit for command?
4. Given your past adultery, should Americans consider you a moral exemplar of family values?
5. Doesn't your flip-flop on Jerry Falwell being an "agent of intolerance" show your opportunistic pandering to the religious right?
6. Given your wealth and privileged upbringing, aren't you - and not Barack Obama - the elitist?
7. What is your religion, really? And has the answer in the past changed as the South Carolina primary approached?
8. Didn't President Bush betray you with his signing statement on the Detainee Treatment Act? You claim to be against torture, but aren't you a hypocrite for voting "no" on the Senate waterboaring ban?
9. Why did you flip-flop on the Bush tax cuts you twice opposed? Why do you now support making them permanent for the wealthiest Americans who need them least?
10. With the economy tanking, shouldn't Americans be concerned over your past statements that "the issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should?"
For the details and background on each, see:
"10 Debate Questions John McCain Will Never Be Asked."
Hannity will crash head on into a "Karmic Brick Wall" at full speed at some point.
I may not be around to see it but it's going to happen soon or later.
L.A. Confidential @ 22:
And that smirk will be gone also. For a long time.
ysbaddaden @ 16:
When whitey on Faux uses it tho, it has Germanic 30s overtones.
ferrofluid @ 24:
True. I won't deny that. Whitey on FOX has other things in common with Hitlerism than just swastikas alone, though.
slippy hussein toad @ 13:
and that 'rancid pile of shit' is called Hal Tuner (who has some interesting audio tapes of him and Hannity white supremacing it up on the phone btw)
someday soon they are going to get aired when somebody pays Hal the dosh he wants.
Oh insHannity is all besides himself for proposing a Neanderthalic question. Obama dismissed that BS properly. Hey Sean while you were playing with your Steve Austin doll and watching the Electric Company, terrorist Cheney had already dodged the draft to go to Vietnam 5 times; you are known to kiss his ass and get high on his methane frequently. Can you explain the nature of your relationship with him?
L.A. Confidential @ 23:
Hal Tuner's audio tapes :) coming soon to MSM everywhere.
Lets see if Sean can verbally excrete himself out of this one.
AngryOne @ 21:
my monies on a stroke by question four
Pretty pathetic for anyone to have to siphon from the Hannity well of dumbshit WTF questions.
A warnng to any parent who is currently paying college tuition for a son or daughter pursuing a career in journalism: CUT OFF ALL FUNDS IMMEDIATELY! It's no longer a legitimate profession. It's a scam. Ask for a refund of any money you have already paid.
Hannity should be trying to get a personal audience with the Pope while he is here. He needs to see if there is any way he can still get to Heaven. He needs to quit lying and even then it's doubtful. If anyone desrves to go to Hell, It's Hannity.
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eric @ 9:
thanks eric! that priest rocks ..
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Jaysuz! More pondscum oozong it's way onto my screen. Malkin,McMuffburgercain,and now nananaannity. what aworld what a world.
Ron @ 33:
No, if anyone "desrves" Hell, it's the Religious Right. They're the biggest reason Industrial Civilization's gonna have a nasty crash in the future.
Just my .02 cents.
"Obama just dropped 12 points in 4 days in the Daly Gallup Poll. What was all that people were saying about Obama's weak performance in the debate having no effect?
April 19, 2008
Gallup Daily: Clinton 46%, Obama 45%
General election races remain tight
PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup Poll Daily tracking shows that Hillary Clinton now receives 46% of the support of Democrats nationally, compared to 45% for Barack Obama, marking the first time Obama has not led in Gallup's daily tracking since March 18-20.
These results are based on interviewing conducted April 16-18, including two days of interviewing after the contentious Wednesday night debate in Philadelphia and the media focus that followed. Support for Hillary Clinton has been significantly higher in both of these post-debate nights of interviewing than in recent weeks. The two Democratic candidates are now engaged in intensive campaigning leading up to Tuesday's Pennsylvania primary and are under a continual and hot media spotlight, increasing the chances for change in the views of Democrats in the days ahead. (To view the complete trend since Jan. 3, 2008, click here.)
There has been no change in the general election trial heats, with Obama's margin over Republican John McCain at 45% to 44% among registered voters nationally, and Clinton's margin at 46% to 44%. -- Frank Newport"
Please stop the whining. It is corporate media and it will get much worse.
Obama's reponses were just horrible and he has too many radical friends.
Move on.
I wonder how Snuffleupagus feels having Hannity brag about mentally pwning him.
Sean Hannity is the archetypical, conservative sissy boy, much like Bush, Rove, Cheney and so many others. That they continue to get away with it amazes me.
General_Rennenkampf @ 36:
Forgive them for they are the ignorant and don't know any better. It's guys like Hannity that reinforces their ignorance.
Just like getalife to raise the bar of intelligent conversation (snark)
I was flipping through the channels on the telefucker today when I saw that Fox News was doing a story about a federal prison inmate in Idaho who had gotten himself on the ballot as a democrat. Now, let's not jump to conclusions and assume that Fox is only covering this story so that people will associate democrats with felons, right??? right??? ha ha ha... 10 seconds later, the anchor's colleague pops up in the window... he's in Idaho, and he's talking about this Barack Obama event in Boise today... and she asks him something like, "yeah a lot of people were expected to show up to this event today, is that right?" and he says something to the effect of, "yeah well after that last story I wonder if he'll even get four." and the anchor... her name is Megyn Kelly... says something to the effect of, "Well maybe he'll get the prison population." har har! WTF? Because a prison inmate got himself on the ballot in Idaho as a democrat, that means Barack Obama is gonna sweep up the convicted felon vote? By the way, Ms. Kelly... I got a little piece of news for ya here: FELONS CAN'T VOTE. bwa ha ha ha ha. You dipshit.
Ron @ 33:
Lord Han Han 'GOP calling, GOP calling, GOP calling, here is station Faux'
parallels so close its almost if somebody copied something.
David Hawes @ 41:
Yeah, I almost stubbed my toe on the bar.
Ron @ 40:
The laity, maybe. The leaders of the Dommie right? Hell, no. (Pun not intended.) If Pat Robertson were younger, say, or perhaps some future Dommie leader might do this, America would have its own Hong Xiuquan.
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Space coyote- Fixed News' viewers are too dumb or too old to remember that point.
Ron @ 44:
Sheet,Ron. Most people here could high jump that bar.
Ron @ 44:
You're already drinking today?
ysbaddaden @ 5:
If you made Rush Limbaugh sound stupid, wouldnt you brag about it? For once I agree with Insanity, he punked some poser named George Stephanopolous
ysbaddaden @ 48:
Just started on my frirst. It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
I admit I see no swastika in the logo, however with it's sharp angularity, it seems reminiscent of runic writing.
http://members.aol.com/tgnfoom/private/runes.gif
And how is it that Bill Clinton adopted Reaganite policies as president, even out-Reaganing Reagan by doing away with more social services, bombing country after country, and imprisoning vast numbers of people, while still managing to retain a reputation as "liberal"? This is a longstanding trend ... well, longstanding as in "dates back to Reagan." I wish people would quit looking to Reagan as an example, then maybe Democrats would stop emulating Republicans. Reagan's policies were largely disastrous.
They're all a waste of skin. I couldn't watch all of Hannity. Like when he said I suggested it on my Tuesday radio show. Click off.
Questionable relationships?
Like the Bush family has with the bin Laden clan?
David Hawes @ 51:
Hope you got plenty of dollar bills for the g-string
I'm cheap
I'm Scots.
David Hawes @ 48:
Hey guys, I was referring to the iron bar someone left at the top of the stairs.
ysbaddaden @ 52:
And as a soon-to-be history major, I must add that runes were not originally Nazi, either. They were a divination method used by Germanic Eurohindus after the collision with Greco-Roman Eurohindus. Hitler really f'ed up Germany by ruining any chance it had to express its cultures. He did far better than the French ever did.
We're going to have to find a new expression than raising and lowering the bar
That comes from playing Limbo
And the Catholics have gotten rid of that doctrine.
ysbaddaden @ 52:
Those symbols are ancient. Even if there were a swastika there, it would more likely be the hindu symbol that looks the same but has been around for like 5000 years. don't you just hate when one asshole has to ruin something for everyone else? That mustache, for example. Hitler pretty much put an end to that mustache style.
58 General_Rennenkampf
I generally equate the runes with Vikings, however, the Germans of the 30's were getting rather nationalistic and occultic, and there may have been a resurrgence. Just look at the letter sowillo, isn't it reminscent of what they used for the schutzstaffel?
And in terms of interpretation it shares the solar symbolism with the Hindu Swastika.
George Steppedonmyphallus is moving to Fox soon I bet
That dwarfish Stephanopolous stooped so low he almost disappeared.
Space Coyote @ 60:
In Charlie Chaplin's, The Little Dictator, he said at one point, "That swine stole my mustache!"
Deang - Obama has a Republican health care plan complete with a Harry and Louise insurance-loving attack ad on universal health care. He has Reagan economic advisors. One wrote a book on privatizing social security and Obama uses Republican talking points on social security being "in a crisis". Two of his advisors have been caught saying what he says on the campaign trail on the economy is just campaign talk. He's said he'll talk to creationists; he'll look again at vouchers. I think he is center right and his loyal followers who basically jumped on a crusade are going to be very disappointed - especially on the Iraq.
I actually thought the Pumpkinhead Russert and Brainless Williams MSNBC debate was nearly as bad. My hero is the guy in the audience who heckled, "These are all race-based questions? Why are there so many questions about race? What's the matter with you?" That was America shouting back at the ensconced mainstream media.
Come on folks, don't be whiners.
He should have done like Clinton did to MSNBC and called them on their bs.
They started asking him the first question when she fought back.
He didn't fight back and say enough the gotcha, lets talk about the issues.
If you do not think it will get much worse in the general you have not paid attention to the corporate media and the gop combo.
Hell, even MSNBC gives mcwar a free pass. We need to fight back not whine after it is over.
ysbaddaden @ 61:
The runes are associated more with the Vikingr, but that's mainly because Vikingr have better records for these things than the Germanic peoples that converted did. Christendom didn't exactly have tolerance for inferior barbarians who wanted to worship their old gods...
That just made me think. A lot of the treatment later dealt out in the Americas and Australia has parallels with what happened to the Germanic peoples when Charlemagne and his ilk were trying to wipe out the traditional Germanic cultures.
Which is part of the reason Hitler had a negative attitude towards traditional Christianity.
What a fuckbag.
General_Rennenkampf @ 58:
Eurohindus, huh? Is that what they're calling the Aryans now? And, if so, should we now start refering to that country on Iraq's eastern border Eurohindustan now?
ysbaddaden @ 63:
And no one names their kid Judas or Pontius Pilate any more!
Andy K Jong Il @ 69:
now, now...*muttering to self*Proofread, idiot.
This stink has a very similar aroma to Eau de Fox News & The 2000 Election, but it's stronger somehow.
Examples of German occultism were the:
Germanische Glaubens-Gemeinschaft, and Ariosophy (derived from Madam Helena Petrovna Blavatsky).
However, Naziism itself wasn't occultic because Hitler banned most of the German Occult societies as being ineffectual, although he continued planning battles by horoscope, like Nancy Reagan planned Ronnie's appointments. Hitler did use his ideas of Germanic Pagan symbolism, like the fire rituals in the 1936 Olympics, as seen in Leni Riefenstahl's Olympiad.
ysbaddaden @ 52:
I've got that one beat. Vinca script, 5th to 6th millenium BC:
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/vinca.htm
General_Rennenkampf @ 67:
I was under the impression that the Germanic tribes migrated across the Baltic, and are related to the Vikings/Normans.
And Charlemagne was the King of the Franks, a Germanic tribe. Christianized, of course, but by the time of the Carolingians, many of the German tribes had converted to to Christianity.
ysbaddaden @ 73:
Nazism itself wasn't occultic. Even as a Christian raised in Evilvangelicalism, I'll state Hitler was a definite Christian, but in the Hong Xiuquan and Charlemagne and Theodosius II sense, not in the Francis of Assissi or Mother Teresa sense. Christians tend to two types. The brutal witch-burners typified by Cotton Mather, Torquemada, Hong Xiuquan and Charlemagne, and the more gentle type that the more brutal type pretend to be and fail miserably at it.
Hitler was one of the more brutal types.
Here is the symbol for bush:
w.
It is like the Di Vinci code up in here.
Why won't Hannity release the 990 Tax Reports (if he filed any) on his Freedom Concerts? They are Public Record, just in case he didn't know! The concerts funds haven't showed up in any of Freedom Alliances 990's for the last 5 reportable years! Where are you reporting the money, Sean?
So Mr Uber-Patriot and Great American Hannity, how about showing us the money?
ysbaddaden @ 73:
Related- I first saw Riefenstahl's Triumph Of The Will in the mid '80's, and the scenes of the parades depicting "traditional German values" looked a lot like what the GOP was trying to pass off as "traditional American values".
We are going ot here. We should take this to an open thread.
I've never heard the term Eurohindu, since Hindu is a religion not a nationality. The more common term is Indo-European, and scholars admit it is to replace Aryanism, which in their original pre-Hitler usage referred to a group of languages best personified by Farsi, the language of the Persians (Iraq and Iran).
There's been some speculation in modern "New-Age" thinking that there may've been contacts between the Asians and the Vikings, since their panthean of Gods were between native Vanir, and a new group called the Aesir, the latter being compared by Snorri Snurleson to the Asians. For a Christian monk both Snorri Snurleson (Poetic Eddas, and Saxon Grammaticus (Prose Eddas) were remarkably tolerant of these Pagan views and wanted to record them for posterity.
Andy K Jong Il @ 75:
Well, they're related, yes. But being of the same general sociocultural groups didn't exactly stop the Mexica from being brutal SOBs to their fellow Mesoamericans, did it?
In pre-Industrial times religion was the equivalent of what ethnicity is now among Europeans. For a modern example of the pre-Industrial attitude towards religious differences in the West, Northern Ireland qualifies, or Kosovo and Bosnia.
ysbaddaden @ 80:
Eurohindu is a term I made up, primarily because I wanted to emphasize the connection between pre-330 AD European beliefs and modern Hindu beliefs. It's just my personal quirk, and also because to type Indo-European is too long. ;)
74 Otay
I saved that link.
79 Andy K Jong Il
Ditto
I'll be ending soon since I've been feeling dizzy all day.
75 Andy K Jong Il
Normans were generally seen as being from Breton and therefore largely Celts, although indubitably mixed with the Franks.
I wonder what George Stephanopolis and Charles Gibson would say vis-a-vis our linguistic debate?
MountainMan23 @ 34:
Now THAT was the kind of video I'd expect to see here on C&L. Thoroughly enjoyed all 9 minutes of it, and I seldom watch these things all the way through.
If the Carolingians were called Carolingual, would that explain why Carol has a big smile on her face?
Well. Never has a history class been so much fun. I get to drink AND get educated. Cool.
ysbaddaden @ 84:
Sorry, ys, that's not right. The Normans settled in what is now Normandy- east of Brittany, home of the Bretons- from Scandanavia. Williams claims on the English throne were through the Norwegians or Danes.
Brittany was settled by Celts from Cornwall, who were being pushed west by the Anglo-Saxons. IIRC, the Breton settlement was a century or two before the Normans got to France.
Should you be judged by the company you keep? Birds of a feather flock together! If you sleep with dogs you will get fleas. How is this irrelevant? Barack has never had to answer questions about the dogs he has been sleeping with! In fact when Hillary raised Rezko in one of the debates he lied> He said he didn't really know him and was some one he did 5 hours of work for. We now see he has given back about 200,000 dollars he raised for his campaign. Rev. Wright the same thing. I wasn't in the pews for those statements. PLEASE! Perhaps not those exact statements but we all now the theme of the church is the same every Sunday. Was ABC hard on Barack sure they were. Do the American people have a right to know about Baracks past Your are damn right we do. The media has treated Barack like the second coming from his beginning in this race. This is the most powerful job in the world we have a right to know about what dogs he has been sleeping with as a judge of his character.
As I see it the media has already focused the attention on these 3 candidates while excluding all the others that ran. So why all sad faces now that the media does more of the same?
With all the other media available the people does anyone really need MSM anymore? I know that I sure don't and I'm much wiser for not watching the MSM gongshow (apologies to Chuck Barris) anymore.
ricksramblings @ 90:
What alternate universe are you living in? He's already answered the question at least three times that I'm aware of. And if Jeremiah Wright can't speak, and John Hagee can, well that says all I need to know about your type.
MountainMan23 @ 34:
That was excellent, thanks. I wish all Dems would stand up for each other in the media, the way this brave gentleman did. Instead, most seem to apologetically agree with the right-wing smear machine.
He is smirking because he thinks he got the bullshit wiped off his lips.
this is an obvious example of something that's been determining the flavor of our MSM for nearly twenty years since reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine and subsequently destroyed the GOP- the huge effect talk radio has on the rest of the MSM, determining its flavor, killing some stories and pushing others.
Not that anybody at ABC (or elsewhere in the MSM) gives a damn about what people from these publications think.
rickscramblehead is another toad who needs his anti bama rant. Poor toad.
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George, you ignorant shill. You are now on my list of pigs of the media. Way to go. Take your lead from the lead pig, vannity. You are shameless.
Every review on Amazon.com of The Real McCain received 5 stars out of a total five, except one.
I have a very strong suspicion that lone dissenter who gave it just 4 stars was a Fox News plant. Judging by the way it reads, he has reich-wing written all over him, because he cleverly added the caveat that the reason he didn't give it 5 stars was because the book wasn't long enough (Karl Rove much?).
I say we start an email petition and blast it over to the obviously Fox-partisan folks at Amazon and let them know we are watching them too.
This riech-wing lapdog media must end.
ricksramblings @ 91:
second coming? guess i just imagined seeing stories about his going to a midrassa, not wearing a flag pin, not covering his heart or saying the pledge
they have been hitting on him since the get go....but nothing has stuck
the right, and now the hacks at abc, have tried to portray obama as some sort of manchurian candidate, who after winning the election, will kill all white people, destroy all our institutions and hand over the keys to the country to radical islamists
normal people aint buying it
now back to redstate little wingnut troll boy
I was mulling over the ABC debate this morning and the moderators’ claim that knocking Obama with a more or less uninterrupted stream of Swift Boat gotchas was justified by focusing the debate on ‘electability’. And it occurred to me that we have now crossed an important threshold where the Republican operative cadre has sufficiently disciplined and trained the press (and more than a few Democrats) that their own role may simply be redundant. …
It is rather striking, is it not?
The media justifies its smear questions by noting that the Republicans will use the smear questions, and the Democrats have to be prepared to respond.
Of course, if the media refused to frame the smear questions as legitimate, and reported them instead as, I don't know, smears, they wouldn't have the same credibility would they?
In other words, the media's justification for pressing Democrats on smear questions is, "Look, we're gonna ask about this shit, so you might as well answer us rather than complain about the questions. Complaining ain't gonna stop us."
Is George Stephanopoulos stupid? It sounds like an insulting question, but as Gump said, "Stupid is as stupid does," and Stephanopoulos certainly acted stupid at that latest slam-Obama fest.
why was Stephanopoulous was on Hannity's show in the first place?
Bill W. - are you kidding me? Did you say 'How is it that Stephanopoulos, of all people, thought this was a good move? '?
What makes you think Stephanopoulos is anything but a self serving and self agrandizing whore that would step on his mothers neck like all the rest of them? Have you seen his TV show? Or do you think it not possible for anyone that cute to have a black heart?
You are bambi in this game if you do and they (the tigers on the right) will rape you before they kill you and eat you.
That's right Hannity, we're trashing George for asking such a stupid tacky question. Oh, it came from you. Well, that figures that anything this stupid and tacky would be traced by to you.
Gee, who appointed ABC to determine "electabilitly" in a debate? Or at the very least, determine "electability" by doing the work of a Republican 527.....in the largest view debate, and during the first hour. Yeah, good job ABC. (The only redeeming factor: next time the Cons say the MSM is so liberal, they better exclude ABC). And what's Stephanopoulos doing talking debate strategy on the phone with a fascist right-winger like Hannity? Oh, well. Gee. Imagine if someone at ABC had talked to George Soros on the phone!
jimbo92107 @ 104:
He got his questions from the King of Stupid: Sean Hannity.
Reserve a seat for next Friday!!!
Jeremiah Wright will be the guest on Bill Moyers .
Why is Stephie talking to that whore Hannity in the first place? Shouldn't somebody be asking about that relationship? Is this his shot at being "fair and balanced?" Is he looking to replace Combs? Stephie's lost all credibility in my book. Screw him. Screw Fox News.
Don @ 108:
This country isnt about democracy. It isnt about you or serving the public. It is a zero sum social darwinian thugocracy in which anything goes. Bush didnt just say the constitution was just a piece of paper ... he believes it.
Who decides? Well, honestly it looks like they do. Why?
... because they just did. That is the way of the social darwinist.
ricksramblings @ 91:
What I heard.
trankhussein @ 96:
A good time to move out of this country would have been twenty years ago. Kudos to anyone who had the foresight to do so.
How has it become accepted that Stephanopadinejad is a journalist rather than a political operative with a tv show?
Stephanopoulos is just a Clinton puppet. Or he used to be.
So why wouldn't he attack Obama like he did? No biggie, let the smug jerks at Fox "News" gloat. Obama still came out on top.
Now me? I'm going to be rooting for McCain. Because whoever I root for in the presidential election...they seem to...lose.
Well, almost always. I liked Bill Clinton. But Hillary needs to drop out after she loses the Pennsylvania primary. She is yesterday's news. Adios, Hill!
Hannity can keep mindlessly backing one of the most unpopular presidents in history.
Someone should ask Hannity about his ties to this man
more here.
i hope there's a lawsuit on behalf of everyone in america that takes down abc and fox with one fell swoop.
it could probably now be proven both are guilty of deliberately misleading the american people as cover for their moneyed leash-holders.
do we really need these 20th century relics anymore?
sue 'em for every penny they've got, then cut checks for everyone.
if only it could happen...
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I think what we need in America today is a real patriot someone that will take it upon themselves to produce some vigilante justice.
If someone would start assinating people like hannity, billo,limpballs, stephanopolus, just all the major network talking heads it would be the best thing that has happened to America since the civil war.
Just wipe these ignorant shitheads off the face of the earth and the world would be a better place!
Don't be fooled by the colorful, propeller-topped beanie Steffie wears, Hannity. He's just another re-PIG-lic Butt-Boy.
And as a Butt-Boy of the first order, you know what that's all about. When someone says "bend-over" - the only thing to say is "How far?"
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Normans was generally defined as those from the north of France. Both Normandy and Breton were settled by Brythons, although in which order I'm not sure. It's seen as where both the names Brittany and Britain comes from. My sources disagree with whether the Brythons were Germanic or Celt. The most convincing argument I've read was that there were three branches of the Celts living in Britain at one time serpately, but then merged. The P Celts came first, but were dispersed by a later group called the Q Celts. They former may have gone native with what was then the indigenous, presumably matriarchal tribes. The Q tribes brought in heroic mythology and a patriarchial age. Then the Brythons came, forced the P and Q's to merge into limited areas like Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, and the various islands of the Orkneys, Skye and Man.
The problem is discerning between German tribes, the Celts and the Franks. The German tribes came from what is now Southern Germany, the Celts from the Caucuses and Eastern Europen, and the Vikings from what is now in Norway, Denmark and Finland.
I wonder if George enjoys being Sean Hannity's bitch? Probably so.
ysbaddaden @ 122:
No, ys, the so-called Normans (from Norse or North men) started to invade that particular part of France- then referred to as Neustria, populated first by the celtic Gauls, later the germanic Angles and Saxons- in the late 8th century. They had settled so many of their own their by the year 911AD, that the area then became known as Normandy.
In 966, with the Normans at the gates of Paris, the King of France granted Rollo, a forebearer of William the Conqueror, the title of Duke of Normandy. Thus Normandy became a Duchy in the French feudal government, the Dukes of Normandy owing fealty to the Kings of France. The descendents of William, then the Kings of England, had Normandy stripped from them since they, as Kings, felt they owed no allegiance to another King. This is what started the Hundred Years War.
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What we now call Brittany (Bretagne in French) was peopled by Celts called the Veneti when conquered by Julius Caesar and named as the Roman province of Armorica. With the decline of the Roman Empire in Britain(approx. late third century), and the invasions of that island by the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, celtic Welsh and Cornish peoples formerly allied with the Romans fled to Armorica. These Welsh and Cornish peoples intermingled with the people already there, and the first writings in a unique Breton language appeared at the end of the sixth century. Somewhere in between the name of the area became Brittany- Little England. This wa two centuries before the Normans began raiding northern France!
Brittany became a Duchy, then an independent kingdom after defeating Charles the Bald, King of France. Later Brittany became a Duchy of the Norman Kings of England, but remained independent of England itself. Finally, in 1488- four years before Columbus sailed the ocean blue- France defeated and absorbed Brittany.
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The Germans settled from the north, across the Baltic. The southern German tribes just happened to be the ones who arrived at the Alps first. There were a lot of different names of those tribes, the Franks just happened to be the tribe that got very strong and imposed its will on the others.
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I won't argue much about the Celtic dispersion with you, it's all pretty hazy history, yet.
However, there have been recent DNA tests that show a connection between the Irish and the people of northeastern Spain- the Basque people, more particularly. The theory is that when the mini Ice Age ended around 10,000 BC, Iberian peoples migrated northwards to Ireland. Celtic language came later, with the contact between those older Irish and Celts from Britain and France. But most Irish have genetic markers thank link them to Spain. The ones who have more of those markers happen to be known as Black Irish. Just sayin...
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Brythonic denotes a language group ( Breton, British, Cornish, Cumbric, Welsh...and maybe Pictish- but the Picts have a very slippery history), a sub-group of the greater Celtic languages.
Any time you see -onic you can almost bet it's related to languages. Like Slavonic(the Slavic Languages), or even Germanic (theGerman...well, duh).
ferrofluid @ 8:
Excellent observation. EXCELLENT!!
All of the sewer rats and racists better enjoy the present because come the day after the Presidential election they will have nothing to laugh and smirk about , but I sure will !
Unfortunately, journalists who don't try to stir the pot up won't have their jobs for long. Real news is boring and boring doesn't raise ratings. Ratings are what count. Not informing the public.
Yeah ! What I've heard is right. The Obama fans can't debate just like their Messiah. BLA BLA BLA. The facts are in the posts. Personal criticizing not fact or merit just immature rants . HOW SAD. It must be the over education you all got. You forgot to learn how to debate just like OBAMA! CRUSHED IN EVERY DEBATE! Can't think off script. I guess in runs in the cult!
Wow! That the so-called progressive netroots have yet again manufactured another anger and targets to pile their bile on is nothing new or surprising. Neither are their hypocrisy and double standard. What's surprising and new is their ungratefulness. First, their manufactured anger, hypocrisy and double standard: were they as vocal and angry when Hillary was pummeled with gotcha questions and decades old GOP talking points couched as questions by NBC and CBS moderators? Where were the netroots and their media allies when the NBC moderators and her opponents all went after her with undisguised venom? Not even when it was obvious to all that the moderators were helping Obama by asking him the same questions Hillary had been asked and answered in detail ("Me too"!) The fact is, rather than cry bloody murder at the unfair attacks on a Democrat, the netroots and their media allies not only cheered and showered praises on Russert and Co., they accused Hillary and her campaign of complaining too much.
Ungrateful I would say they are, considering that while Obama left the Senate chamber to avoid voting (a calculated move by a calculating politician - the messiah of change and hope calculated that voting for or against will hurt his camapign), Hillary voted against the GOP-sponsored resolution condemning MoveOn.org. What's more, who would thought that DailyKos would become the most vile Hillary-hating blogg this side of cyberspace, and drooling and swooning everytime he hears the name Obama. The same Obama who dissed DailyKos, saying among other things that it has nothing interesting to contribute to the discourse. If anyone is causing the divisiveness in the Democratic that would hurt the party's chances in general election, it is the netroots with their psychopathic hatred of Hillary and their vile attacks on her and her supporters - all for a candidate who's never held them in high esteem, and dissed them everytime he got the chance to do so! Good luck to the netroots and Obama in November. I hope they don't suffer another Liebermann blow out!!
I would like to know why C&L considers the subjective opinions of a well-known rabid Hillary-hater and Obama supporting shill like Josh Marshall important enough as to be referenced in this manufactured hypocrite-laden debate outrage?
IMHO, bloggers and bloggs like Josh Marshall, DailyKos, Huffington Post, MoveOn.org, by openly taking sides in these primaries and not restraining themselves from attacking Hillary (some of the attacks are so vile, I sometimes wonder where this uncontrolled hatred is coming from) for just everything and anything, have damaged the Democratic party in ways that it might take years, if not decades, to repair. What Hillary said about the netroots is 100% true, and her supporters agree with her and support her comments!
Some bloggers and Obama supporters refer to Hillary's vote for the Iraq war as the reason for their hatred of her. The hypocrisy and double standard are so plain to see it hurts common intelligence to use such an argument to justify the vile and contemptible attacks on a fellow Democrat. That's if those doing the attacking are really Democrats (FYI, Ed Shultz, Markos and Arianna were one time or the other Republicans and conservative republicans too). Yes, Obama did not vote for the war because he was not a Senator in 2002 (he was elected to the Senate in 2005!) when the vote was taken.
However, he has consistently voted to fund the war since that time. Just as Hillary! So, why are the netroots and Obama's supporters not holding him responsible for those votes. After all, to claim opposition to a war while consistently voting to fund that war smells of ........ (you complete it). Obama did not bother or had the time to vote on the MoveOn.org's resolution, but he has always had the time to vote to fund the Iraq war. Yet, it's Obama who's called anti-war, and supported as such. Speak of Obama's supporters being naive and gullible - Obama is a politician from head to toe, and he's taking his supporters on ride of doube speak, exaggerations, teleprompter eloquence (note how he always stutters, falters, appears lost or says something stupid when he's not reading from a teleprompter in front an adoring crowd in that preacher voice of his) and utopian kumbaya chorus!
So What, The Idea Still Came From Hillary Clinton
I know Hillary Clinton's tactics, and somehow she placed this question about the Weather Underground into Sean Hannity's head. This "DOB" will do anything to win. I thought mind control would be off limits but it's not.
Joseph
These two Guy's have a lot in common they are both Bought and both are Hacks.
I remember the Weathermen. They were dangerous idiots then. Nothing has changed, except now they have computers. And they, like then, can tolerate no criticism of their holy positions.
Fattity has a Reslug reputation of loveing to suck knobs.
Brython were the people, Celtic their language.
No surprise that their are DNA links between Celts and Spain, since the Celts pass through there.
Brython=Britain=Brittany=Bretagne.
Not surprising there's some Norse blood in France, there is in Ireland too, but they're still Celts.
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