New GOP target: porn for the troops
Some very strange conservative activists, apparently with far too much time on their hands, launched an initiative last November to limit U.S. troops’ access to adult materials. It never occurred to me that policy makers would take this seriously, but apparently, they are.
To quickly recap for those just joining us, Congress banned sales of sexually explicit materials on military bases 11 years ago, but the Pentagon continues to allow base stores to sell magazines such as Playboy and Penthouse, which officials don’t consider explicit enough to prohibit.
The American Family Association and the Alliance Defense Fund, two religious right groups, demanded the Congress and Defense Secretary Robert Gates takes steps to scrutinize materials, including magazines and films, sold to the troops and their families.
I never thought this would go anywhere, but it looks like some Republicans, even in Congress, are actually starting to take this issue seriously.
BUT HUMAN TORTURE GETS THE KISS OF APPROVAL FROM THE RELIGIOUS FUNDIES!
oH yEAH!
Real Men Don't Use Porn
So we're back to that again huh.
But it is fuckin war that is pornographic.
Makes ya wanna just shootem, dunnit?
JS
Hippo @ 1:
They probably prefer troops rape real women instead of jacking off to magazines to work off excess testosterone.
They can serve and die for their country, but they're not allowed any tits or ass, or dick. (Lots of flavours these days.) I'm sure beating off is a ray of sunshine in their horrible lives.
They ARE relentless, eh? So what's next you mentally unbalanced wads... having someone come to my home to make sure I don't jack off in the shower?
Sure, come on by. I have an ice pick I'd like you to meet.
You put your life on the line for your country (or some jackoff's ill-conceived nation building excursion) you deserve all the porn you want.
Let them, the Republicans are sure to lose the military vote that way.
The Countries falling apart, unless your one of the fortunate top 1%, and they are worried about jack off material.
We are truly screwed.
Pornography is one of the few crumbs they still toss (allow to be tossed) to the peasants, to placate them, and to keep their minds of what's really going down (in their name.)
Jscopes @ 3:
Right on!
Blood and guts are good; pictures of naked babes are bad.
F*&^%$g repressed puritan hypocrites.
L.A. Confidential @ 2:
That's RIGHT! They TORTURE,RAPE and PILLAGE fer GAWD just like in the old Testiment! Have to start makin new bracelets. WWJR Can you guess what the letters mean?
HUH? You can kill other people and torture... but boobies are too far?
Jesus H. Christ.
Yeah....
Nekkid wimmen is a sin in the eyes of the Lord..
One million dead, stinking Iraqi corpses from Lil' Cock Codpiece....not, so much....
May these fundie nutjobs have the fat roasted off their bones be a million pitchfork wielding devils.
I think it's time for all the sissy boy conservative activists, nearly none of them ever having served in uniform themselves, to join the military today. Fat chance! Only more proof that Rep Rangle was right. We must bring back the draft. That's the only way this nonsense will ever stop.
Unbelievable. The irony, the stupidity. It's almost too much to take.
I don't time to hang around....but would someone with imput please suggest that John carry ASAP Olberman's segment today entitled "McMaverick", where he and his Media Matters guest nail McCain on a whole bunch recent contradictions and "senior moments" (to be kind), and emphasize how the media are still not talking about it.
The meme will run something like this: "Elite Hollywood libruls are distracting the troops from their mission, softening their resolve, and proving once again, they want to sabatoge (and hence, hate) the troops."
I can't think of a better way they could encourage the Troops returning home to start shooting Republicans. Might as well sell their kids into slavery while you're at it. Douchebags.
Yeah. Who doesn't enjoy a good wank.
lemme get this straight:
it's ok for our gov't paid troops to kill innocent civilians, rape girls and kill them and their families (Abeer), torture civilians of other countries, level an entire civilization and society, but when it comes to whack-off material, THATS when conservative get concerned???
john @ 21:
Bout sums it up.
Pigpen @ 20:
Especially in Iraq as a soldier, when every day you wake up with the realization that it might be your last.
First they will ban magazines they deem explicit. What next? Liberal magazines? Newspapers? Censorship at it's finest.
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Even I'm becoming skeptical.
I wonder if it dawns on these self appointed morality police that people who don't want skin mags, won't buy them. Or is that too big a leap of logic for them?
With troop-supporting like this, who needs enemy combatants?
Nowonmai @ 27:
This stuff has been going on since Hefner released his first Playboy Mag back in the 50's.
Nice.
"Go do W's bidding because god has commanded him to command you to kill and torture the heathens and steal their oil…er…I mean spread democracy. Did we mention that when you signed up for a six-year contract to spread democracy that we really meant six years plus? Ouch! Should have read the fine print. It's not all that bad, though. I mean, while you're about the business of spreading democracy, we'll let you see your spouse and/or kids once a year or so. That oughta hold you, right?
"Now, while you're there, don't forget that god frowns on adultery. (N.B., that particular commandment does not apply to republican Congressmen attracted to underage boys. That's not really 'adultery,' if you catch my meaning.)
Oh, one last thing; not only are you not allowed a humane level of Government-Certified Sexual Contact (GCSC), you also aren't allowed to use dirty, dirty pictures of one of our god's most beautiful and glorious creations in order to fantasize about doing so. Okay? Real good. Now back to the death machine with you, there's a good chap."
Sheesh.
Nowonmai, I believe thses idiots have no type of logic at all. Throw sexuality and religion in and they are down right pathetic.
How come they aren't going after fuel prices which is bankrupting the entire country?
The Religous Right fanatics are the most controlling dogmatic cult in the country.
The same soldiers who are fighting for these nuts are the same ones dying for these nuts. Jesus fucking Christ these fuckers make me sick.
Nowonmai @ 27:
And those that do will somehow find a way regardless of what the Puritans attempt.
So, how many children from the members of The American Family Association and the Alliance Defense Fund are serving? I'd be interested to know. I suspect it's more like Romney's sons protecting the election bus in Ohio...or wherever they were hiding.
Because LA, many of our fellow Americans are watching American Idol or wondering about Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan. Conforting huh?
Scrutinize the material?????????????
And LA Confidential, climate is not the same as weather.
Does the religious-right want to make enemies of our troops? Excellent! Great strategy, guys! Keep it up!
P.D. @ 24:
they censor and filter the internet for the protection of the feeble minded easily distracted Spartans, no reality or non approved (Faux CNN) news / social sites allowed.
P.D. @ 36:
I have read books written by Ph.D.s who couldn't reason their way out of a paper bag also.
go watch (or read) Starship Trooper again and soak up some of the subtle detail.
Bushed! @ 37:
I know. Gore goofed obviously in his choice of "branding".
He should have used "Climate Change"
Spring is a month late where we live also. And it's cold today.
My only concern here is that our more dim-bulbed spineless Dem congresscritters will go along with the stupidity. And the left will lose any moral advantage we had.
Regardless of what people think of the troops, they should be able to read anything, watch anything they want. Aren't we over there to spread freedom? God, what the hell is going on!
I think they should be allowed to censor the porn only if the American media will un-censor the war. And every elected official and wing-nut forced to watch. Oh, and all these bible beaters too.
Yeah Otay, I had high hopes in 2006. Lets just say I'm very BITTER.
Otay @ 43:
I've written off the Dem Congress for the most part. Their living in dream world not many of us will ever see much less be able to afford.
Dear Troops,
Please risk your lives and possibly die for the personal enrichment of our friends and associates.
Signed,
The Republican Party
P.S. No porn.
Sex AND violence?
Not for our boys.
They might get corrupted.
P.D. @ 36:
Amy Winehouse is the flavor of today. Arrested on suspicion of assault.
The cult of celebrity and idolatry in this country is out of control.
bitter Edwin Hussein @ 5:
I laughed at that, but I also know that is a sad truth.
If GOP policy makers were dogs, they would have been put down by now, they are that crazy.
Please end this f*cking war.
P.S. Gene said it better.
Killing Iraqis is OK but masturbation? That's where we must draw the line. Thank God for the American Family Association and the Alliance Defense Fund ensuring the purity of our troops, they really have their moral priorities in order.
I just fucking hate this religious fanatics: they want kids in school to pray and believe in ridiculous theories; now they want to prohibit young people from beating the bishop (pun intended). These people want to be in every phase of our lives. Is there a way to actually stop this shit? Once I actually told a guy to piss off when he approach me to preach me. Why can congress do the same.
The television coverage of the bombing of Baghdad was pornography and so was the titilating banner headlines, "War Inevitable!"
Anyway, what do they need porn for? I hear many Iraqi girls are turning to prostitution for survival.
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/06/24/prostitutes/index.html
hood @ 54:
They've already taken over the Government. 7 years ago.
L.A. Confidential @ 47:
The political 'dream world'
Down in Florida in Bob Allen's world its $20, rather pitiful and cheap, and hilarious when they get caught by the LEOs.
The average American citizen has better taste and is more discerning than your average toilet trading Republican.
It's the final nail in the coffin of the "Republicans are for small government" myth. They don't even want these poor kids they've sent on 3, 4 tours of duty in hell to even have something to masturbate to.
apparently with far too much time on their hands
wink, wink...
i hope the repukes do make a big hoohaw out of this. this could leave them with only the foaming at the mouth element in that party.
I think there is more of a direct connection between sexual hangups (either repression or obsession) and plain ol stupidity than most people are willing to acknowledge. And I don't think the stupidity causes the hangups, its the other way around. Time and time again, the most sexually repressed/obsessed people are the stupidest. They may normally be very smart, but their sexual hangups make them stupid. It's NOT a coincidence.
Does the name "Eliot Spitzer" ring a bell ?
Based on the cited examples - Playboy and Penthouse - I think the GOP is largely turned off by the fact that our troops are viewing images of consenting, adult, females - three things Republican lawmakers tend to shy away from in their sexual endeavors.
hood @ 54:
Theres a famous political cartoon of the GOP elephant with its trunk snooping through a first floor bedroom window.
sums up the republican perverse attitude to morals and their desire to regulate other peoples sex lives.
of course they are purer than the driven snow and Craig Vitter Haggard et al are really closet Democrats (according to Faux when they get caught)
I can understand why the Religious right has no use for heterosexual porn. It's so easy to pick up guys in public restrooms.
Don't forget it's May sweeps time so I can only imagine what the Media is going to serve up.
Just like J. Edgar Hoover (otherwise known as Mary) couldn't tolerate FBI agents standing in front of him with their hands in their pockets, the religious right wing nuts can't stand the thought of all those hard fighting men in uniform.
I guess snuff is permitted, just no pictures.
Nowonmai @ 27:
That doesn't cut it with Dobson and Wildmon and misses the point. People who buy Playboy are obviously not able to comport themselves with the decency of a good Christian, and they must be kept from the temptations that in a war zone would be irresistible, and when their ass gets blown through their hat by an IED, they will not go to Hell. Who knows what kind of spiritual damage could be wrought by the likes of Norman Mailer, Ray Bradbury, Joyce Carol Oates? And they'll interview just about anybody, including such bad influences as Truman Capote, Bertrand Russell, and Betty Friedan, presumably good influences like William Buckley Jr., Rush Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, Brit Hume, and Bill O'Reilly, and some that are hard to tell, like Thomas Friedman, Ayn Rand, and Sartre.
I thought they were there to fight for our freedoms, like freedom of conscience, freedom of the press, and freedom to be left alone by douchebags like Dobson. Don't tell me they are fighting for freedoms they are not allowed to enjoy. That would leave me disillusioned and bitter.
Don't these people have better things to do?
Makes sense since you can't really jackoff to porn when your paralised from the neck down anyway. This must be their way to save trees....yeah thats it, this is part of their earth day campaign.
CD @ 69:
Uh, no. That's part of the problem.
As a gesture of solidarity with our troops, I'm going to go jack off right now. Who's with me? (figuratively)
Hersh: children raped at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has videos
L.A. Confidential @ 57:
I know. What's really giving me hope is the fact that in November we will have a Dem in the white house, and with a stronger Democratic majority in both houses, and hopefully someone from the supreme court will retire (my dream is Scalia and Roberts), we will finally flush these fundies from our government and our lives.
What's next for these self-righteous hypocrites, a death sentence for cursing on the battlefield?
Why do these nuts force their religion on everybody else?
They need to leave people alone!
Excerpt from statement provided by Kasim Mehaddi Hilas, Detainee #151108, on January 18 2004:
I saw [name deleted] fucking a kid, his age would be about 15 - 18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard the screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn't covered and I saw [name deleted] who was wearing the military uniform putting his dick in the little kid's ass. I couldn't see the face of the kid because his face wasn't in front of the door. And the female soldier was taking pictures. [name deleted], I think he is [deleted] because of his accent, and he was not skinny or short, and he acted like a homosexual (gay). And that was in cell #23 as best as I remember.
Good. Pornography is demeaning to women.
Good Christians always recognize one another. Except in the liquor store and the pron shop.
I hope it goes through and teaches the Troops a lesson about supporting Republicans - America's Taliban.
"I support the troops, but I don't beleive they're adult enough to make their own decisions regarding their sexual enjoyment."
The republicans just want to read the articles.
All in favor of sex paraphernalia...
Scherzo @ 77:
ya....but killing innocents....that isnt
take your fucking morals and blow
me preferably, but a significant other will do in a pinch
got you some porn here:
http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=F627DD0D817355855C51E86A...
Scherzo @ 77:
If that is your experience, switch careers.
Good God - soldiers, porn and hookers - it goes back to the dawn of time! I'm not a fan of pornography, but I'm not under any illusion that young (primarily) men are going to refrain from drinking, whoring and. er, self-gratification, especially in war time. Some people really need to find gainful employment.
Jacking off is very prosaic in the field. Read Colby Buzzell's "My War".
Soldiers regularly went to the latrine with a porn mag and a chem light. If someone was in there with a chem light you knew he was jacking off and went to the next one. Some soldiers were even encouraged to go whack off because they were getting irritating. And they couldn't jack off to Playboy. They needed the really raunchy stuff like Hustler and Penthouse.
GOP supports murder over pictures of nekid ladies... is this news?
However gay and child porn are acceptable .
Oh for god's sake you religious assholes, let the boys jack off. They're the ones getting their asses shot off for the benefit of cynical politicians and profiteers. Keep your own minds morally pure. Get out of everyone else's.
god, imagine that. some troops half a a world away worrying they might bite the bullet at any given moment wanting to taste some p*ssy one last time.
meanwhile john hagee can't buy himself a boner.
Oh for fuck's sake. It's exactly this bullshit belief that the election is all wrapped up, that left you holding nothing but air with Gore and Kerry. And should you lose again this fall (with these two assholes running out the clock, refusing to concede), you'll still DO NOTHING about it but whine online for 4 to 8 years.
Hards and Minds?
They can't buy it but we can donate it can't we?
I say we organize a massive porn lift!
And you expected anything different from the shit for brains who brought you abstinence only.
Religious nutcase onservatives don't fear falling wars, soaring debt a depleted army and a pending recession but the specter of porn causes them to flop around like fish out of water in a frothy rage.
So they are back to trying to take porn away from the troops again which is always one of the very few things left to boost morale. Obviously, those Congressman never served in the military. If they did, they would know that many of those troops, depending on their MOS will not even get to see a live woman for maybe several months depending on their assignment. A ban on porn will only piss them off and they will obtain it through some other means.
Excuse me? The troops and their families? Since when are we shipping the families of the troops over there?
Religion is philosophical welfare for social low-lifes.
hood @ 74:
uh huh. sure.
A lot of felt that way in 06, too.
they fight for our freedoms, yet are losing their own... deplorable.
The GOP are such a bunch of losers. I was stationed in Germany with the US Army back in 2003; anyways, that moron Bush actually signed an executive order banning members of the US Military from engaging in intercourse with prostitutes.
Hello...Earth to stupid... Germany...Frankfurt...Red Light District... Prostitution is legal there...
First they tell us no prostitutes...Now, they say no porn...What is next...No masterbation
Joined the USN in '76, 1st duty station was a Helo squadron in Norfolk, VA. '77 to '81. Was kinda amusing the Norfolk/Va. Beach area banned hard core porn in the rental stores, but you could cross the bridge to Hampton Roads/Newport News & get all the porn you wanted. But Falwell had to keep his bible belt area totally clean & pure lol & what was further amusing, you could go on any ship stationed in Norfolk or Little Creek & watch all the porn you wanted, We just kept it our little secret & didn't tell Jerry ;)
When I was transferred to the USS Saratoga, home ported in Jacksonville, FL in 1985 found out just before I got there the ship's in house tv system had (3) channels, one of which played hard core porn 24/7, but a local reporter did an exposé on the Sara & put in his story the non-stop porn channel & the C.O. got rid of the channel due to bad p.r. ~ Oh the humanity lol again, every division on the ship had vcr's & plenty of porn, so no biggie.
United States Navy, 200 years of tradition, unhampered by progress!
Good ship good crew, f*ck you, turn to!
We've done so much with so little for so long, we're now capable of doing anything with nothing!
btw, my biggest pay raise was under Carter, 15% in 1979. Reagan increased defense spending dramatically, but all that money went to weapons, planes & ships etc., not to soldiers/sailors ~ my biggest pay raise under Reagan was 4%.
Sorry to bore you with my anecdotes ;) carry on ...
Snowball @ 71:
You'd think they'd be more interested in getting proper body armor to the troops.
I like Pie @ 101:
Ah, the Reeperbahn, Hamburg, Germany, went on a N. Atlantic cruise in 1978 ~ London, Paris & the Reeperbahn :) good times.
Watch for Hillary and McCrazy to get on board with this. Imagine, you're an 18 or 19 year old kid facing his first (and not the last) tour in the Bush/Cheney hellhole called Iraq; there's a very real possibility that you could be coming back home in a box tomorrow, and some phoney assed bible thumping closet pervert is going to dictate that YOU can't look at porn?? Fuck that!! Bad enough these kids (who are literally sacrificing everything) aren't allowed to have a fucking beer, now they can't even have "Playboy"?? I say, let these kids get drunk as motherfuckers; let them check out porn until they get crosseyed. What's the Pentagon gonna do? Send 'em to Iraq?
CD @ 103:
At least the troops will have chastity belts to protect their private parts.
/sarcasm
Thank you for your service. Definately not boring.
It's worth noting, for those who haven't seen one in a while, that Penthouse now has full contact hardcore sex. Real insertion, various locations, happy endings.
Don't blow a gasket .. but I saw a couple of 'Skin mags' comments and I figured at least some of us hadn't seen PH in a while. I don't know about PB although I doubt it.
In my opinion that changes exactly nothing, but that would be a nasty surprise for someone who hasn't seen one in a while.
Ah-Huh... They won't feed em, too freakin expensive evi-damned- dently!... Pretty soon they'll be runnin out of bullets next I guess.
And whatever else goes to hell in a handcart we ain't ever gonna bring em home as long a Dick Cheney and George W. Bush has their greasy palms on their peckers gettin off on all this fucking shit they've caused!!!! But their peckerwood religiopha-reek psycho-path allies will make goddamned good and sure they don't see any porn...
Oh no, we can't have this kind of shit happenin in our little trumped up war/occupation/obscenity... Can't be lettin our young people get perverted by something like that... Next thing ya know, they'll be too interested in fucking instead of fighting this goddamned perverted pornographic war all the one world gov. globalists have been gettin a nut over that's making sooo freaking many MSM/MIC/RNC/neocon/you know the rest, fill it in, people rich on the blood of the poor, weak, ignorant and innocent, not to mention all the ones in between!!!! JD
Awesome, let them. Let the Republicans try and get between our fighting men and women and their porn. That is a great way to guarantee a permanent Democratic majority. So this is what "Support Our Troops" means...
makes you itch to find out who's porking the congress"man" from Maryland who started all this...
but they're fighting for our freedoms...
the freedom to purchase as many assault rifles as we wish, the freedom to shit where other people eat, the freedom to worship Jesus in whatever way we see fit.
and not the disgusting libertine freedom to view naked people.
Yes, we're the "moral military". We don't want our troops looking at naked ladies when they should be out KILLING PEOPLE!
Makes sense to me. Morons.
It's OK for you kill at 18, here is your gun, but don't be ogling at the naked girl! That would be just sinful.
It's amazing these logically challenged ass munches haven't been taken out back and dealt with.
how the sexually repressed, repress
Sex tames the savage beast. Who wants an army that's tamed and jerking off. They know that sex relieves stress. And that's good for the soldiers, just not good for the army. They want men hyped up on war as their release. Masturbation makes you docile. I doubt invading forces in the past wanted their soldiers to pull one off before a battle. Kill first let the sex be the reward. It use to be called rape and pillage. Notice how rape is first in that popular assessment. The moral Majority know how's it's done, Put people under immense pressure then let them lose. Either through doctrine or artificial rules and watch what happens. They tried that in their abstinence programs but failed miserably, look at all the teenage pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases that have skyrocketed among youths. This type of rule placed on the soldiers is going to create some unwanted aggression. bad for the soldiers, good for the army.
btw...this will be used as a political talking point
the dems will work against it, and will be called purveyors of porn
however, i think the wingnuts should check out how much many of their top supporters make from the production and sales of pornography
It started with internet. That one was a no-brainer. No porn allowed on govt. computers (limiting internet access). Then they took away commercial email saying it was a bandwidth issue and that a lot of porn was being sent in emails, now they want to take away the mags all together.
I think this is a set up for the next step which is, no porn over internet services that serve military bases. Then, they claim that porn in being sent to people via P2P, bit torrents and via emails. Then, they get what they really want. No internet for the troops.
Porn is the excuse. The agenda is to silence the outcry of the troops against the insanity.
It sounds crazy and paranoid, I know. 10 years ago, if I would have told you that our country would set up concentration camps in Cuba and that we would torture people and detain people without due process for years at a time, you would have said it was crazy and paranoid.
Trust me on this one. I'm watching it happen.
so...no gay sex and no beating off, for extended tours. why do i think the same geniuses that came up with that idea are the ones who deny evolution exists?
The fundies are probably most afraid that a possible Noam Chomsky interview in Playboy might get some GIs all worked up or something. It appears more like an informational ban than a censorship one to me. jmo
The Good Book says, "By their fruits you will know them."
One of the fruits of human behavior is censorship.
So, I figure people who call for the censorship of exactly the very same thing as other people must be coming from the same conservative mindset. Right?
Ergo, the good and righteous people at the American Family Association and Alliance Defense Fund are calling for censoring exactly the same thing that the Communists call to be censored, as do hardcore religious fundamentalist diehards like the al Qaeda and Taliban.
Control-freak conservatives think alike, and they definitely censor alike. One could write a book citing the conservative similarities between the AFA/ADF, Communists and al Qaeda/Taliban.
Throughout the ages and in one country after another, conservatives think alike, act alike and censor alike...and always cause unconscionable horror for everyone else, including their own children and grand-children, even as they claim that they are righteously doing what is best for everyone else. Insane? Yes. Predictable? Yes. Totally predictable, totally insane.
Tim in Japan @ 118:
Should've read this first. ITA, Tim
Barrett D @ 115:
You can kill at 18 with the governments blessing and they will even give you a gun, you can solicit for sex in the mens room by tapping your toe and still keep your job, but don't look at the naked girl in that magazine and for God's sake keep you hand off your tool.
American Religious Fundamentalism is no differerent from any other Religious Fundamentalism. They are draconian in their dogmatic beleifs. ALL types need to be removed.
nash @ 116:
Just remember the scene in "Along Came Mary" when Chris Elliot explained to Ben Stiller that he whacks it before going on a date, because otherwise, it is "like going out with a loaded pistol."
And couple that (I bet this is where is comes from) with the expected placement of the New Iraqi Forces comander who is a true fucking nutjob,as they kick Betrayus upstairs as commander of Centcom, they are looking for hair trigger soldiers to fu(k with the citizenry. They want hostility. This new commander of Iraqi Forces is a total fu(king crazy asshole.
If there's no porn, how will our fighting troops develop the neccessary hand strength for hand to hand fighting? And really, if we want to export democracy, bunnies aren't the worst ambassadors we could find.
A bunch of chickenhawks who never served who are offended by naked boobies. Sounds like whimpering toe-tappers to this old soldier.
Yet another scene straight out of "1984". Pornography was prohibited for members of the Party as part of the agenda to keep them working for the Party 24/7 with no other priorities or loyalties, yet mass-produced and distributed to the prols as a way to keep them quiet, distracted, entertained therefore blissfully unaware they were getting f*cked by the Party in other ways.
Let me get this right. The religious right back war and human torture but want to burn Playboy magazine because it might corrupt the troops? Wow.
abarts @ 99:
your mama @ 92:
What do you suggest, riot like the fat lardo says. Unlike you, I still believe in this country and I know that in '08, unlike the previous two elections, these motherfuckers Republicans will not be allowed to cheat. We'll all be watching them, and we really deserve what we get if we let them.
Great. The levees in New Orleans are plugged with newspaper, people are starving because food costs too much, and Bin Laden is determined to strike in US, and these Rethugicans want to block Playboy.
It's official; we are NOT a democracy, we are a Kleptocracy.
Apparently our brave troops are old enough to be killed but not old enough to jerk off.
The troops don't need porn. Since the occupation of Iraq began, I understand there's been a surge in the number of children prostituting themselves to help support their bombed-out families.
So there. Just throw the nearest Iraqi teenager some spare change. Problem...solved?
I am in a state that charges you with a sex crime if you are caught peeing outdoors. 3rd degree.
I sell adult dvds at my shop and we only allow 21 year olds access to the backroom. the prevaling wisdom is that 18 year olds are still friends with 16-17 year olds and the adult material potentially can get to them from the 18 year old friend so we set the limit at 21 to counteract that. However, I make an exception for anyone in a military uniform or with a military i.d.. If they are old enough to get shipped overseas and face the prospect of losing a limb via an IED than they can buy sexually explicit material in my eyes. Go nuts.
And the federal government has had 54 special prosecutors waiting in the wings to start prosecuting shops that sell adult material for sometime now. And my thought is 'Yes, they absolutely have more important things to do than to mess with my income." but in totalitarian regimes sexually explicit material and liberated attitudes towards sexuality are always targeted. Just a sign 'o the times we are in.
Christ..when I was in the USMC..87-88 maybe??...the Penthouse Pet of that month came to the base(Legeune N.C.) for autographs and pics....guess no more of that stuff, eh? Smart move, take away troops porn...wonder what they'll do now??
sah @ 136:
Visits by John Ashcroft?
WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!
Playboy and similiar magazines are banned from the PX in the war zones...
GO1 specifically bans anything pornographic, and if you didn't buy it at the in theatre PX, then its pornographic,
Now as anyone who read penthouse back in the day could tell you, (meaning V'nam late 70's) Playby and Penthouse would have a military section that would discuss issues such as abuse of military authority, freedom of speech etc, which made it one of them there insurrectionist materials. Some have suggested part of their banning was to deny the troops an alternative resource accessable on a military base to inform them of other options.
Hustler did a foto spread about the pornography of war vs pornography of sex around 1976....
we don't see those kind of displays anymore.
So...whats my point...
Roscoe Bartlett ( who fronted the bill banning "Explicit magazines" from the exchanges) and his ilk are setting up our servicemen to get busted for locally procured porn, where the standards for employment of the models are less than satisfactory.
I essence our servicemen would be buying magazines where the "models" are the exploited sexworkers they claim are trying to protect. By closing down the legal age porn supply, our troops will purchase the illegal porn supply , which means they could find themselves in violation of the current obcenity laws for the product they have will not contain this statment
WARNING: Sexually Explicit Content.
This Website contains explicit sexual material which may be offensive to some viewers. You must be 18 years or older to enter this Website. By going beyond this point, you acknowledge that you are 18 years or older.
All models, actors, actresses and other persons that appear in any visual depiction of actual sexual conduct appearing or otherwise contained in this adult site were over the age of eighteen years at the time of the creation of such depictions.
Some of the aforementioned depictions appearing or otherwise contained in or at this site contain only visual depictions of actual sexually explicit conduct made before July 3, 1995, and, as such, are exempt from the requirements set forth in 18 U.S.C. 2257 and C.F.R. 75. With regard to the remaining depictions of actual sexual conduct appearing or otherwise contained in or at this adult site, the records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 2257 and C.F.R. 75 are kept by the custodian of records of this company whose address is available public information at Internic whois. "
They really want a christian nation? they should leave and form one, have them go to UTAH.
Porn is easy to get in the states, but we're not allowed it in theatre. That wasn't much of a problem in the IZ I dont think anyone was really monitering it there, but where I'm at now actively blocks pornographic content (mostly), some local outfit called Magic Island Technologies. It is quite annoying.
Who are they kidding?! The GOP have been jacking each other off for decades!!
You must kill, kill, kill for the oil. Never ever use the oil as a lubricant for jacking off! You can die for your country but while you "fight for your country" (aka, die for the President's and the Vice President's half assed gift to the petroleum industry and military contractors) you had better not be whacking off! Besides, Jesus said it's bad too!
Why do they hate the troops? They must hate America!
I like Pie @ 101:
They'd try to scrub your dirty thoughts if they could.
Pardon my yelling: FUCK YOU, YOU PERVERTED FUNDIE REPUBLICAN ASSHOLES! STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY FUCKING BEDROOM AND EVERYONE ELSE'S BEDROOM, ESPECIALLY THE TROOPS. GO HANG OUT IN MEN'S RESTROOMS WHERE YOU BELONG AND LEAVE US ALL THE FUCK ALONE. YOU FUCKING GOT IT?
78 abarts Says: Good Christians always recognize one another.
Is that like gaydar?
One was the last time a porno mag launched an suicide bomb against American troops?
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