Open Thread
By bluegal Thursday May 08, 2008 10:30pm
Really Joe, have you checked on Dubya's bearings lately? Madness of King George found at 2 Political Junkies.
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From Mad George to Mad Mac: Rev. Hagee Blames Gays for McCain’s Former ‘Straight Talk’
Hillary's campaign is done. Some nice coroner should explain this to her.
McCain Pushed Land Swap That Benefits Backer
By Matthew Mosk
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 9, 2008; Page A01
PRESCOTT, Ariz. -- Sen. John McCain championed legislation that will let an Arizona rancher trade remote grassland and ponderosa pine forest here for acres of valuable federally owned property that is ready for development, a land swap that now stands to directly benefit one of his top presidential campaign fundraisers.
Initially reluctant to support the swap, the Arizona Republican became a key figure in pushing the deal through Congress after the rancher and his partners hired lobbyists that included McCain's 1992 Senate campaign manager, two of his former Senate staff members (one of whom has returned as his chief of staff), and an Arizona insider who was a major McCain donor and is now bundling campaign checks.
When McCain's legislation passed in November 2005, the ranch owner gave the job of building as many as 12,000 homes to SunCor Development, a firm in Tempe, Ariz., run by Steven A. Betts, a longtime McCain supporter who has raised more than $100,000 for the presumptive Republican nominee. Betts said he and McCain never discussed the deal.
The Audubon Society described the exchange as the largest in Arizona history. The swap involved more than 55,000 acres of land in all, including rare expanses of desert woodland and pronghorn antelope habitat. The deal had support from many local officials and the Arizona Republic newspaper for its expansion of the Prescott National Forest. But it brought an outcry from some Arizona environmentalists when it was proposed in 2002, partly because it went through Congress rather than a process that allowed more citizen input.
Although the bill called for the two parcels to be of equal value, a federal forestry official told a congressional committee that he was concerned that "the public would not receive fair value" for its land. A formal appraisal has not yet begun. A town official opposed to the swap said other Yavapai Ranch land sold nine years ago for about $2,000 per acre, while some of the prime commercial land near a parcel that the developers will get has brought as much as $120,000 per acre.
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The Myanmar thugs have been blocking aid to the region. The military adds armor to vehicles five years too late. Obama/Clinton is not happening. Another Russian leader takes a swipe at Bush.
Why the popups at C&L?
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xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 2:
Is it time for her coroner ration already? Not what she had in mind when she started, but it looks like the job is hearse...
Hi, x
;-}
I'm not sure the 'Madness of King George II' analogy holds. Dick Cheney's been the Prince Regent for 7 years already.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 6:
Hi 2B :)
Have you seen this?
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 8:
lol
Yeah, checked out last nite's OT earlier and watched it based on you's guys reactions. My kinda tasty teste tastelessness, haha.
Dubya lost his bearings just before he went AWOL, no wait, he was gone more than thirty days, it was desertion!
Pericles @ 7:
Actually, I think its more of Cheney in the role of Deputy Führer Melakon, and Bush is John Gill from Patterns of Force.
great episode btw. very instructive.
I would just call it absolute brilliance.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 6:
WTF? I thought they had kidnapped you and had you in one of the secret prisons. Hi 2b.
Have you seen this?
http://www.wcltam.com/news/special/articledetail.cfm
Rebel Patriot @ 11:
IIRC, John Gill had been a respected historian before he tried the experiment on Ekos. bush knows nothing of history
I believe a small group of people with enough integrity can change the world for the better. After all a small group of people with absolutely no integrity have proven theu can change it for the worse. The thing is these people have created a lot more adversaries than they expected to.
http://www.wcltam.com/news/special/articledetail.cfm?articleid=23261
try this one.
miss_kitty @ 15:
yes he does. his grandfather was a closet Nazi. The apple didn't fall far from the tree.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 16:
yes i believe that too, maby the salvation army band with several tamborines playing on street corners!
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 8:
I could watch that all night. Hilarious!
An interesting take on the lack of critical thinking in America today. If only he had been as critical of Ann Coulter when the anorexic pundit appeared with him on the Tonight Show about a year and a half ago.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/783979/wake_up_america/
i guess hillary's position is 'it ain't over til it's over'. she came close and it must be difficult to end it after all the effort.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 16:
Don't buy it. The small group of people that have nearly ruined the world in the last 8 years were able to do it because they were giving away trillions of dollars to really bad and already really rich people. When that happens, all of us grumble and some shout but we all continue to eat our shit sandwitch.
When a small group of people try to change the world for the better, that usually means the already very rich people don't get any richer. That fact usually pisses them off very much and they have that small group of people with integrity bought off or knocked off. Usually the second option is cheaper.
tyree @ 19:
So, Tyree. Last week you were for Hillary. Today you are for nobody. Just exactly what is it you are for?
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 6:
That is really uncalled for...You leave 8 Belles Clinton alone!
Ron @ 13:
WTF? I thought they had kidnapped you and had you in one of the secret prisons. Hi 2b.
Hi Ron, still reading yer link...
;-}
Erroll @ 21:
good video. exactly correct.
Just Hussein Of It @ 23:
Then the solution may be to make the small group larger, remove the money from the rich group and remove their propaganda macine. In the meantime please don't try to sell me on the concept that there is no possibility for positive change because your solution sounds like mass suicide and i am not interested.
anybody remember the first pretzil debates 2000 ago where bush was photographed with the box under his
suit jacket?
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 24:
something you can depend on instead of two worthless politicans like clinton or obama ! loose women cuban cigars and 57 chevy convertables!
tyree @ 30:
tyree, it seems like you use depends a lot.
tyree @ 30:
Yeah, i see a lot of those on the road.
Seen a few 57 Chevy's on the road too.
Just when everyone thought that Hillary was dead -- afterall her personal physician said there was no pulse--she will sit up and whip off her rubber mask to reveal that she is really Bill Clinton!!!!!!!!!
'Twas difficult to be in two places at once, but that's the art of prestidigitation for you!
Ron @ 31:
grow up kid !
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 8:
That gave me the best ab workout I've had all week!!!
tyree @ 34:
I ain't no kid, but thanks for the complement.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 28:
Remove the money from the rich group? LMFAO.
Remove their Propaganda machinery? LMFAO.
yeah, okay.
how are you going to do that when THEY own the system? When They make the rules? When They control the Police, the Secret service, the FBI, the Military, and every other instrument of compliance?
The solution to 1984 is 1776.
miss_kitty @ 35:
It deserves an award.
Ron @ 36:
sorry but ive read your posts thought you were!
tyree @ 34:
No shit, lol.
Hi, tyree!!!!
;-}
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 40:
hi proud dam your on a roll tonight , like your blog
Rebel Patriot @ 37:
We let them make the rules and we let them own the system. We can't go back to 1776. The planet has changed. But just as every prison is run by the prisoners until they stop running it we can do the same thing. What if we stopped working and went on strike? What if we stopped accepting "legal tender" as legitamate collatoral? What if we refused to pay our debts?
Rebel Patriot @ 37:
Sometimes you just have to step to the task.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 42:
wed be broke hungry and more in debt !
We are already halfway to the refusal (or inability) to pay our debts as it is.
tyree @ 43:
No, as you can see it hurts them a lot more than it hurts us.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 45:
they got more money then we could spend in a dozen lifetimes if they never made another nickel!
tyree @ 41:
How'd you know?
Thanks, it likes you back.
;-}
tyree @ 46:
If we don't recognize their money, what then?
tyree @ 46:
Yeah, since they don't need anymore, it's time for change.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 48:
they will by direct from wholsale outlets!
tyree @ 49:
lol.
tyree @ 46:
I will try this again.
Yeah, they don't need anymore. It's time for change.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 47:
ill post on there one of these nights and expose the election fraud of 08 and then we can have some fun with the system!
Thier wealth comes from our labor. No labor in the wholesale outlets means no buying power. Their money is paper, it is worth something because we believe it is worth something. look at the stock market. The value of stock goes up when people believe in it and drops when they don't.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 52:
who do you think bought up all the gold in this country and silver ? you think they give a shit about paper dollars that have nothing to make them worth anything?
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 52:
sounding a lot like Ron Paul now.
tyree @ 51:
You've got nude pics of McNasty?
3rd time trying to post a comment.
They don't need anymore money. Time for change.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 52:
Their wealth CAME from out labor - way back when.
Now their wealth is on autopilot interest accumulation.
tyree @ 53:
Gold and silver are only worth anything because people believe it does, Tyree. Diamonds too. Talk about the most over valued rocks on the planet.
Site monitor, why am I being blocked?
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tyree @ 53:
Who gives a shit about gold and silver when you can have platinum?
Ron @ 58:
They don't want you getting skin cancer. :)
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 55:
no but im getting nude shots taken of jenna on her wedding night ,i hired the maid to get them but itll cost you to print them! say twenty yrs at levenworth!
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 59:
If brick walls were worshiped, Tyree, you would rule the world.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 60:
I tried to post a comment 3 times and it never went through. Are the NSA at it again?
Ron @ 58:
I'd help ya out, Ron, but I can't see ya...
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 61:
heh heh good one xoites!
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 57:
yes, ordinary diamonds are quite hoaxed up in value. Only the really large, or colored diamonds have real value.
the standard 1-3 carat white diamond? eh, not so much. See Greed and Glitter by Janine Roberts for the expose.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 61:
LOL!!
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 61:
It is random dude.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 16:
Like turning half the independents and moderate republicans into lifelong democrats.
These morons (Bush/Cheney) really screwed the pooch. They not only destroyed everything domestic and foriegn for the U.S., fortunately for us, they destroyed their own party in the process. Probably the only good thing Bush or Cheney has done in their miserable, worthless, catastrophic lives.
Isn't the DEATH Penalty Legal in the USA? @ 69:
kind of like irs audits!
Ron @ 64:
Hey guys, can you believe it. My comments were waiting for moderation. What the heck is going on here. Check back on my comments guys if they haven't deleted them.
[Ron calm down. The spam filter grabbed them up. Nothing against you. It's caught me, Amato and loads of others. No rhyme or reason-Sitemonitor]
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 70:
Rebel Patriot has an entirely different view on that subject which i wholeheartedly disagree with.
Ron @ 72:
you will never see them again in this lifetime!
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 73:
that's because you were getting your ass handed to you on plate.
Rebel Patriot @ 75:
kind of like brick walls!
Still think there is a two-party system? Bush donors now giving to Democrats.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=anDWekGuCW8E&refer=w...
but im serious about them 57 chevys man i could make a fortune with one that runs off batteries!
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 53:
You touched on some interesting points re the fundamental illusion that the rules are basically fair and we've agreed to play by them, even though the plutocrats define the game. More here and here...
This is apropos of nothing, but I just saw a headline on Huffingtonpost about Jenna Bush's upcoming wedding. It was a comedy headline about Bush about to gain a son...
And a thought suddenly occurred to me...
Can you imagine having George W. Bush as a father-in-law? All of his Constitutional sins aside, can you imagine how much of a dick he's gonna be as a father-in-law? Just watching his frat-boy antics with the press, and the way he demeans and bullies people, to say nothing of the way he only seems to appoint men to positions in his government if they are shorter than he is. God help that boy if he's taller than W. But even if he isn't...yeeesh. The thought of GWB as a father-in-law gives me the willies.
Oof.
xtien @ 80:
don't even think of cheatin on Jenna. don't even think of initiating divorce....
when they decide your labors worth nothing you,ll be working for the man just for food from the company store just like your grat e granpappy did!
Ron @ 72:
Hey guys, can you believe it. My comments were waiting for moderation. What the heck is going on here. Check back on my comments guys if they haven't deleted them.
What comments?
;-}
Rebel Patriot @ 77:
If you can't see that they are trying to manipulate your thinking you are sadly mistaking. They already have.
xtien @ 80:
As our Commander in Chief he was much more soothing.
xtien @ 80:
Just having to pretend that his pathetic, cue-carded jokes are funny during family get togethers would be enough to make me run screaming.
well when they decide to finnish off the money supplys for good they will make nickles dimes quarters and half dollar out of steel slugs !oh wait!
Also bush's fetish with Franks and Beans on paper plates (with his inevitable poop jokes following on) would also be very miserable.
Rebel Patriot @ 75:
Friday nite ass handling...reminds me of old times here, lol...wouldn't take too much license now, tho.
;-}
goodnite all. have to hit the bunk. 500 miles to drive tomorrow, and some BIG hills.
Rebel Patriot @ 90:
night rebel
xtien @ 80:
He'll do just fine. Henry Hager is a former aide to Karl Rove. His dad John Henry Hager is an American politician is the chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia since July 2007. He's getting what he deserves.
well proud you can take care of the heavy traffic here im hitting the old fart sack myself! night!
miss_kitty @ 92:
Haha. If she ages like her granny, he's gonna wish he stayed with 'two in the hand'.
;-}
tyree @ 93:
Nitey, bud.
;-}
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 98:
tyree, don't blow the covers off.
Ron @ 99:
What was that Ron? Still not getting yer comments.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 100:
Then quit responding to my comments, dummy.
Ron @ 101:
Or should that be dumby or maybe dumbie. Hell, I don't know.
Ron @ 101:
What comments? I'm just tryin ta be responsible here ;-}
If yer lookin for our funny friend Charles, he's been hangin' out with me lately and throwin down some haha's...
Nitey nite all, nice hangin witchoo :)
Hittin’ the road, Jack,”and I ain’t comin’ back no more no more no more no more”…
“Last word, freak.” - Melvin Udall
out
;-}
The state department is addicted to contractors. Why in thee fuck was Blackwater's contract renewed?
Fashionably late to the party as usual. Hey to x, Ron and the tan and rested P2B and all the usual suspects. Is ti safe to come out now?
Iraq Contractor in Shooting Case Makes Comeback
Whats a little murder amongst business associates?
tyree @ 30:
The '57 T-bird convertible was a classic! carry on ...
most boring thread ever. xoites your an ignorant child to the machinery to the world you actually DO live in, or an adult retard, i can't quite figure out which or simply can't enough care to try.
Just Hussein Of It is absolutely correct. if your don't believe it, ask your kids chinese boss who has a time share in Antarctica with the Bush twins in 20 years.
Hillary loaned a bunch of her personal money to her campaign. I'm not exactly sure of the legality of this. Sometimes politicians spend their own money campaigning. I've never heard of a candidate "loaning herself money". It definitely sounds strange. She is staying in the race in the hopes that she can raise enough campaign contributions to pay herself back.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/07/07/...
The Madness Of King George
VIEW FROM THE LEFT
Harley Sorensen, Special to SF Gate Monday, July 7, 2003
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Folks, our God-fearing president, George W. Bush, who claims to start every morning on his knees praying, now says that he gets his orders from God Himself.
I kid you not.
I refer you to June 24 article by Arnon Regular in Ha'aretz, an Israeli newspaper. In the last paragraph of that article there's a Bush quote as related by Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas. Here, according to Abbas and Ha'aretz, is what Bush said:
God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you can help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.
That quote doesn't make clear whether God issues direct orders to Bush, or whether they discuss things first. but I'd guess discussions. It's hard to imagine God deciding anything of importance without without first getting input from Bush.
Over the years I've met a handful of people who regularly talk with God, but they usually do so only when they're off their medications.
Those who get instructions directly from the Almighty are twice blessed: They get their orders from the Highest Authority, and the orders are always to do what they would have done anyway.
Getting direct orders from God makes a president's life simpler. If God has spoken, the president doesn't have to observe the niceties with which presidents usually contend, things like getting congressional approval or United Nations agreement.
Bush's very own personal God connection explains a lot of things. Like Bush's disinterest in global warming.
Why should our duly elected president concern himself with global warming when God Himself has said, "Don't worry, be happy"?
Do you see how it works? With God in your corner, it matters not what you do, because God will protect you.
OK, I've been shilly-shallying around here, hesitant to come right out and say what I think, but I'm becoming convinced that our president, the man with his finger on the nuclear trigger, is a bona fide nutcase.
I really do. For him to say God told him to strike al-Qaida is just nutso. For him to say God told him to strike at Saddam, ditto. This guy is not dealing with a full deck.
To me, Bush's sanity has been suspect for a long time. He does so many things that defy logic, like his infamous tax cuts, approved by a thoroughly cowed Congress.
It doesn't make sense to reduce your income while increasing your spending and plunging into massive debt.
His blithe attitude toward the public debt he is creating indicates a failure to grasp reality.
His cavalier entry into two wars within two years, in total disregard of world opinion on the second one, indicates a man who just doesn't care what anyone thinks. Now that his ill-planned schemes in Afghanistan and Iraq are coming apart, I sense a bit of panic in the man.
Bush knew what everyone knew, that our armies could conquer. But he had no idea whether they, or anyone, could maintain a peace in nations as splintered as Afghanistan and Iraq. They can't. They're not trained for that. That's not their mission.
Bush is a good salesman, which is almost certainly why his father's friends chose him to be the front man for the Republican Party. He's a charmer, no doubt of that. Because of his sales ability, he was able to convince most Americans that war with Iraq was a necessity.
But America needs more than a slick salesman to lead the world. We need, at the very least, a man with mental stability. We don't have that with Bush. His rapid rise to power, without truly earning it as most presidents before him have done, has gone to his head.
So what we have in the White House today is a megalomaniac with a messianic complex, a man who believes that he and he alone can resolve the world's problems.
"I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East," he said. I, I, I, I, I! With Bush it's always "I." In a job that requires great humility, we have an egomaniac.
I don't expect many people to agree with my armchair psychoanalysis of a man I've never met. We don't like to admit that important people are crazy, or even that our relatives are crazy. Typically, we overlook their bizarre behavior until it gets so bizarre we can't ignore it anymore.
So, all I ask is that you pay attention. A man who claims to get orders from God, and who creates world-shaking events on the basis of those "orders," needs watching.
Harley Sorensen is a longtime journalist and liberal iconoclast. His column appears Mondays. E-mail him at harleysorensen@yahoo.com.
neocons, can't take a hint
Worst. President. Ever.
DEPARTMENT No
CommentBY Scott Horton
PUBLISHED April 5, 2008
“It would be difficult to identify a President who, facing major international and domestic crises, has failed in both as clearly as President Bush,” concluded one respondent. “His domestic policies,” another noted, “have had the cumulative effect of shoring up a semi-permanent aristocracy of capital that dwarfs the aristocracy of land against which the founding fathers rebelled; of encouraging a mindless retreat from science and rationalism; and of crippling the nation’s economic base.”
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http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002804
Poll: Bush most unpopular in modern history
Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2008-05-01 20:54. Media
New poll numbers show bad news for president Bush.
WASHINGTON (CNN) — A new poll suggests that George W. Bush is the most unpopular president in modern American history.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Thursday indicates that 71 percent of the American public disapprove of how Bush his handling his job as president.
"No president has ever had a higher disapproval rating in any CNN or Gallup poll; in fact, this is the first time that any president's disapproval rating has cracked the 70 percent mark," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
[Edited]
www.cnn.com
109 HISTORIANS RANK BUSH AT THE BOTTOM
7 April 2008
BY ROBERT S McELVAINE
“As far as history goes and all of these quotes about people trying to guess what the history of the Bush administration is going to be, you know, I take great comfort in knowing that they don’t know what they are talking about, because history takes a long time for us to reach.”— George W. Bush, Fox News Sunday, Feb10, 2008
A Pew Research Center poll released last week found that the share of the American public that approves of President George W. Bush has dropped to a new low of 28 percent.
[Edited]
Like a majority of other historians who participated in this poll, my conclusion is that the preponderance of the evidence now indicates that, while this nation has had at least its share of failed presidencies, no previous presidency was as large a failure in so many areas as the current one.
Mr. McElvaine teaches history at Millsaps College. His latest book, Grand Theft Jesus: The Hijacking of Religion in America, has just been published by Crown.
http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=11744
19 Percent Approve of Bush
by David Swanson
February 20, 2008 at 13:56:54
George W. Bush has set a record for unpopularity that may stand for all time: He now has a 19 percent approval rating. And, remember that Cheney has always polled LOWER than Bush. Imagine if the Democrats were to do something we care about (preserving the Constitution) by doing something they care about (winning elections) by forcing John McCain to choose between supporting impeachment and supporting these characters who may soon be less popular than the flu. Remember, Congress moved to impeach Nixon and STILL nobody liked him, but he was more popular than Bush or Cheney: He stayed at around 25 percent through the process. Clinton climbed from about 60 to 65 percent as a reaction to Congress prying into his personal life and attacking him for a non-impeachable offense. Which scenario do YOU think is more like the current one, Clinton's impeachment or Nixon's? Truman's popularity sank as Congress moved to impeach him too, but it never sank as low as Bush's and Cheney's.
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Concerns over Economy Push George W. Bush's Overall Job Approval to New Low
http://www.davidswanson.org
DAVID SWANSON is a co-founder of After Downing Street, a writer and activist, and the Washington Director of Democrats.com. He is a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, and serves on the Executive Council of the Washington-Baltimore Newspaper Guild, TNG-CWA. He has worked as a newspaper reporter and as a communications director, with jobs including Press Secretary for Dennis Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign, Media Coordinator for the International Labor Communications Association, and three years as Communications Coordinator for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Swanson obtained a Master's degree in philosophy from the University of Virginia in 1997.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_sw_080220_19_percent_appro...
more discussions
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/20/19-percent-3/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/125334/887/169/460542
http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=bush+19+percent
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/31195
Last I heard Laura had George's bearing in her purse and Cindy has John's bearings in a safe deposit box.
Is that where Joe Lie-berman check for them them? Did Joe in fact check for the Neo right wing nut?
Hope he is wearing a protective cup for those bearings.
the clintons thought they would be the new Kennedys.
hillary should quit her campaign and save face.
hillary shouldn't diss Sen. Obama.
hillary supporters are dingy as mccain.
hillary will use her bigotry to influence white voters.
code names for "white people"
soccer mom
average joe
the beer crowd
bowlers
hard workers
blue collar
One more thing...
Go Obama!
Go USA!
George is not mad or crazy or stupid or incompetent. The neo -con policies are wrong, geared to enrich a set oif already wealthy people, and resulting in the conditions that work towards letting "disaster capitalism' bear lots of fruit.
Calling some part of the present Republican leadership crazy or stupid plays into the meme that somehow, with the same policies, same base, same goals things will be different when a new set of republican clones takes office.
This is nonsense, and it must be stomped out. Dont ever let a comment like that go uncorrected. Things will be worse under McSame.
This what the leadership expected, this is the world they were trying to create. They know its not popular, they know the people are eager to them out. Thats why they are using voter suppression, disenfranchisement -voter id, electronic voting, hanging chads etc etc etc.
George is doing what he is told, Cheney is wrong, mean, selfish greedy and a war profiteer, he is more in control than GWBush.
End the meme that George is crazy or stupid.
Proof that loosing one's bearings has nothing to do with age. Bush when asked what does his father think about the job he's doing replied "I listen to a higher father", gets countless people killed on a middle eastern "crusade" for big oil and for Halliburton leaving Americans to pay the price and foot the bill for his many disasterous policy failures. Bush lost his bearings well before his 70's.
Ruthless People @ 115:
Loosing one's bearings is a naval term. You would think that McCrazy would understand that, seeing as he was a navy pilot.
Ofcourse McCrazy must have lost his bearings years ago, seeing he had a hell of a time landing his plane in one piece.
Ed Ukashen @ 114:
He may be stupid, but he is evil! And when it comes to evil, George is completely focused.
George Carlin on education and who what why !
diamondmc @ 116:
I wonder if Bush knows since he dodged combat?
gorge carlin for president ! his sthick is right on the money! your politicians are shit! and wouldnt give you the sweat off thier balls if you were dieing of thirst in the desert, they have to be rich , rich to run for president and if anyone points out thier flaws and you dont have anything worth refuteing ther arguement you attack them on thier the posters education, when in doubt fill your mouth with shit and attack, when i say very littles going to change if obama or clintons elected its my opinnion and its just as good as anyones , you go ahead and believe bush is incompatent hes done a bang up job of handing this country back to the corporations and thats all he was supposed to do!
Go Hillary!! You keep in that race until you personally go bankrupt and need bailed out by big pharma and Walmart!! Maybe ol' Rupert Murdick will help ya!! Don't let voters or the Dem leadership stop ya either! Bankrupt them, yourself and the entire party. You are the chosen one. Bill says so, and hey, you know deep down, you would be in this position even if your name wasn't Clinton, and people didn't have this folksy love for your husband. Not sure what they loved about a man that did little that wasn't questionable, but hey, he's far better than Bush and that brings out the nostalgia. I mean he gets ALL the credit for that fake economic boom in the 90's. You know the Enron's of the US where everybody got rich off paper businesses. Ah, those were the days. No way those days would crash to a halt without Bush. No way. (sarcasm off now).
Well, the loyal Bushies strike again:
http://tinyurl.com/54sn75
Apparently a federal arts panel thinks the proposed statue of MLK looks "too confrontational" and they want it changed. Naturally, the head honcho of the MLK memorial, a guy by the name of Harry Johnson, says they'll obediently submit a new design. Unfuckingbelievable. Like it's not bad enough that they picked a Chinese artist over an American or - more appropriately - and African-American artist to do the project, now they'll make the statue in accordance with the loyal bushies demands. Can't have no statues of angry n***ers in the mall, I guess. It would upset those working, hard working white Americans Hillary is always babbling about.
Bill Clinton was really nasty and unclassy when he didn't hesitate to say "How` DARE you! How DARE you!" to a member of his audience who asked him about re-opening a Sept 11 investigation. He could just as easily have said a simple "no". I say to the Clintons now: How YOU! How dare YOU! How DARE you use racism to claim that Obama would not be elected because he is black? Bill, your true colors have emerged and you are a racist after all! You sure fooled us!!
As for a "gracious" exit, you don't know what the word means.
Hillary, there is nothing honest about you. We know all about Whitewater's statute of limitations, pardoning your brother's criminal friends, Travelgate, Johnny Chung, disappearance of Rose Law Firm records, Cattlefutures trading 92. You and your husband are corrupt ill-breds. Go away.
101 Peculiarities surrounding the death of Vince Foster:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37f933db2467.htm
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and we pay taxes for this cluster f***
The reality of DHS 'dept of human stupidity' should we expect anything else from the bunch of incompetents,
that are losing two real
genocidal and illegal occupationswars and all the other GWO? and massive federal issued credit card frauds.The people who misplaced $8 billion plus in untraceable cash in Iraq.
The people who want to build a fun theme park in a city suffering civil war and siege and daily artillery attacks.
The people who think a modern large city doesnt need more than 20% of it utilities working 24/7 and that is success !
The people who think five years of genocide and civil war since 'mission accomplished' plus another 100 years conflict equals winning !
The current crop of Republicans (and a few others in DC) really are 'third generational' in the classic sense,
absolute typical example of 3rd gen losers and failed fascists.
mystic @ 125
damn they are quick today, that webpage or thread got taken down or blocked PDQ.
ConcernedCanuck @ 122:
no need to worry about Bill and Hil, they received $30 million plus in uranium lobbyist fees recently.
supposedly $130 million in total , nice work if you can get it.
NYT article
I've not read one post by any Obama supporter yet that shows any graciousness or class when it comes to the Clintons, none of them, even Chelsea. Name calling is totally accepted and the favorite seems to be racist. What many fail to understand and I can only presume it's because they are either very young and don't know the history of either of them or they are these "new" Democrats and I'm still trying to figure out where they came from.
I've noticed that this Hillary Downfall Hitler video is being pushed and so many find it hilarious. That says a whole lot about who you people really are and it's not flattering. This video is not funny, it's outrageous and disgusting on so many levels.
I'm not a strong Hillary supporter, she was not my choice but between the two I felt that she would be the most capable of sorting out and cleaning up Bush & Cheney's mess. But if that's not to be then I think you Obama supporters are making a huge mistake by continuing the hatefest toward half of the Democratic voters. It just may be they decide to work like hell to give large majorities in the Congress and not vote Obama. He is going to have a hard enough time winning in the General but keep this up and he will be the next McGovern even though he is running against McCrazy. Don't ever be so sure of something, he will need every Democratic vote he can get.
Bluesage @ 130:
If Obama loses, it'll be Clintons fault. I can see it already.
Wow, I guess there is a direct correlation between proof-reading and making sense. In my first paragraph I didn't follow through - I should have said, What you fail to understand is that it will be harder to repair the divide if this hateful rhetoric continues.
Bluesage @ 132:
I understood what you meant.
And I agree.
Mudshark -
Is there any doubt? We will see the end of the Democratic Party if that happens. I've been a Democrat all my life, first voted in 1968 which was a terrible year any way you look at it but this is a new kind of tenor I've not heard or witnessed in our party before. So many shades of republicanism in this "new" Democrat.
mystic @ 125
Maybe you don't realize that you are on a more progressive site and when you link to freerepublic to make your point and back up your nasty rhetoric it only makes you look foolish. Maybe you would feel more comfortable over at Malkins site or with your buddies at freerepublic. Facts be damned there.
Speaking of facts...the story that McCant is responsible for the USS Forrestal fire is simply BS and worthy of thug tactics. They don't park jets with engine exhaust directed at anything that goes boom. Not that I'm saying he hasn't done some lethal shit, just keeping it real.
Bluesage @ 132:
Which hateful rhetoric are you referring to? The one that Hillary keeps doing to the Democratic nominee? She has lost and yet she is out there saying Obama can't win. Will THAT be easy to repair?
Janet -
I suggest you read some of the hateful rhetoric on many of the so-called progressive sites and then get back to me. Or you could just keep your head in the sand and ignore the reality here.
I think the most important thing is to win in Nov. but many, many Democrats have been turned off because of the rhetoric against the Clintons on blogs and on TV. I think it's just very dangerous to assume that Obama will win in Nov. because his supporters want him to. About half of the Democrats have voted for Hillary in this primary and you will need those voters in Nov.
Ron @ 17:
wow!
Bluesage @ 138:
Clinton is telling me that i won't vote for Obama. Why? Because i am white.
She is a racist who has finally come out of the closet.
Some emergency room services are able to extract heads from asses. I suggest you shop around.
Bluesage @ 138:
So you are saying that we need the half of the Hillary voters to win. I agree with that. Then why are you accepting Hillary's loud proclamations to her supporters that Obama can't win? Obama IS the nominee. Who is doing the damage to the party here? She needs to STFU.
personaly i find it rediculas that obama voters think they will take the whitehouse without us who support clinton , you delude yourselves to think your insults or snide remarks will get you anywhere with us, but enjoy the fatasy while you can! let the insults commence !
tyree @ 142:
Yesterday and the day before you said you did not support Clinton.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 143:
no xoites as useual you missread my posts i said thiers not a dimes worth of difference between them , clintons got my vote like it or not! but you enjoy the limelite while you can!
tyree @ 144:
No difference except he is black, i guess.
tyree @ 142:
Dammit tyree, I never said we don't need those voters. I am just pointing out that Hillary apparently doesn't care that the Democrat nominee needs them. SHE is telling them they won't vote for Obama. You would be having a fit it Obama was saying the same thing. Instead he is gracious and even congratulates her on her wins which she does not reciprocate. I was sure that you were sick of the lies and bullshit we've had under bush for the last 8 years but now you are supporting someone that acts just like them. What gives? What is the explanation for the mindset of her supporters, who think she is best for the country, to vote for McCain? To me, that says they care not one whit about the country.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 145:
are you insenuating im a racist? it wasnt long ago when edwards was bumped out you were ready to throw in the towel said neither clinton or obama was worth your vote you were giveing up on this blog and politics, so now your back because thiers nothing else to do with your computer at least im honest ,i stayed!
Janet @ 146:
i have given my position on why i support clinton untill its comeing out my ears ill not keep repeating it, respectfully!
well i guess this threads done for , tyree had his say ! tsk tsk
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