"Living a Republican War", the Lieberman Version
By scarce Sunday May 11, 2008 8:00pm
Kyra Phillips brought up an interesting point for the good Senator from the Nutmeg State today on American Morning, namely that even the Iraqi soldiers don't want us there any longer. Lieberman replies with all the grace and aplomb we've come to expect from the man that it's a good thing they don't have "a vote in our election". Lieberman could just as well have left off that stipulation as completely unnecessary, replacing "our" with "their".
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PHILLIPS: All right. Let's step aside from the polls and talk subject matter. Obviously the Iraq war, he continues to embrace that. This is high on the agenda of the American people. I just returned from Baghdad and what was interesting to me, I sat down with dozens of Iraqi soldiers and dozens of students at Baghdad University and senator, they said to me, we don't want to see a Republican president. As a matter of fact, out of every single one that I talked, not one person said they supported John McCain. They said we're living a Republican war. Look at this. it's a disaster, we want to see a Democrat for president. What does John McCain say to the future of Iraq and we're talking about Iraqi soldiers and Baghdad university students? They're the ones living this.
LIEBERMAN: Well, I'm real surprised to hear that.
PHILLIPS: I was too, it was very interesting. They were very blunt and very straight forward.
LIEBERMAN: Yes, not that I expect the Iraqis to vote in our election, but I will tell you that in all of the visits i have made there and it's eight, the Iraqi people on the street, the Iraqi military, the Iraqi government that I've talked to don't want us to just pick up and leave because -- which is what Senator Obama, Senator Clinton have been advocating. They want us obviously not to stay there forever, Senator McCain wants the war to stop and to have us pull back into bases and be on a path, a reasonable path of withdrawal. But I think the Iraqi people more than anybody know, they made tremendous progress in the last year and a half towards security, towards economic rebirth, some kind of political, national reconciliation.
And the last thing they want us to do in '09 is just to pick up what we begin to retreat because they'll be the victims. They'll be genocide, there'll be genocide, there will be bloodshed they have made tremendous progress in the last year and a half, thwart security, toward economic rebirth, toward some kind of political national reconciliation reconciliation. The last thing they want us to do in '09 is to begin to retreat because they will be the victims, there will be genocide, bloodshed. Iran and Al Qaeda will win and we will lose. And I'm surprised at what your unscientific poll found. I honestly don't think it reflects the feeling of most Iraqis, certainly not the ones that I've met when I've been there.
And here is the video from March that Kyra Phillips is referencing.
Just to be perfectly clear here, I did ask them are you following any of the republican candidates?…Do you want to talk about John McCain? Within that whole group, not one wanted a republican in the US presidential seat. They were all for a democrat. They were all for that type of change because they said they were living a republican war.”
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The best comment I have heard about this is "Iraqis support Democrats". Which is quite a jab considering the Republicans are trying to label Americans/Democrats the party of Hamas.
These clowns will live in denial till they are called before God to answer for their sins against mankind
These fools are playing with fire. If someone were to do to them what they're doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, how would they react?
Lieberman is a turncoat. If the Democrat's were smart, they would strip him of all the commities. What is Lieberman thinking? Has he been drinking the Kool-aid with the rest of the Republican neanderthals?
It's not the last thing they want.....it's the first thing they want.
What planet are these people on??? Does this numbnuts think that the Iraqis want us to stay?
Leave it to Lieberman to dismiss the opinions of Iraqis because they are not voting in the U.S. elections. Asshole.
It's OK with McCain if we're in Iraq for A HUNDRED YEARS! who the Hell is Mr. Independant talking about anyway? Maybe he'd like to hum a few bars from his old song, "The guns and bombs are coming from Iran..." or maybe that great old tune, "Surging with Success..." which was a national sensation for about a week and a half.
P.D. @ 4:
I just encountered a man who's young son was killed in Jonestown, the Kool Aid expression really sends chills down my spine now.
I believe Lieberman will be stripped of some committees when they have an actual, solid majority and don't need his vote on domestic issues.
Notice he said "Iran and Al Qaeda will win ." Even while scrambling to spin the facts that have been thrust in his face, he has the presence of mind to include a bogus talking point . This is what Republicans do so well , even non-Republican Republicans like Joe and Hillary .
Um, McLieberman, there seems to be a little genocide and bloodshed happening now.
Oh, and, by the way, there will never be any winners in this mess. Only losers. Big losers. Us.
They have an election coming up.
They should let their people vote on it.
Of course, the corruption is so bad their politicians want us to stay.
thats right, my un-scientific polling is more important than your un-scientific polling
Iran "won" the second U.S. troops crossed into Iraq. Al Qaueda will be chased from Iraq the day U.S. troops withdraw.
We destroyed many a village in Vietnam to save them. The more things change....
iraqhusseinconcilable @ 10:
Iran and Al-Qaeda working together is like the Falwell types co-operating with the Ultramontanes. The ideology is radically different, and Iran has its own agency it could push to do stuff like that without turning to Al-Qaeda.
Jesus, is there that much stupidity in Washington?
I honestly don’t think it reflects the feeling of most Iraqis, certainly not the ones that I’ve met when I’ve been there.
Because the ones you spoke to were hand picked to tell you exactly what your deranged mind was supposed to hear.
Why do we continue to be insulted by these people? Maybe if they had not corrupted our legal system we would still be able to arrest and incarcerate these treasonous bastards.
Lieberman craves a war with Iran. All last summer, I had a sinking feeling when I woke up in the morning that we would start air strikes, and now I'm feeling that way again. PEOPLE, vote this man out!
I guess, in addition to the Moral Majority and the Silent Majority, Republican hacks are now being saddled with the burden of speaking for the Iraqi Silent Majority?
Believe me folks, I'm out here traveling around South East Asia plenty and I don't know of ANYBODY who want more U.S. Republican rule. The whole world is waiting for them to get out of office so the pan can be removed from the stove ... It's Done Already!
Tonight I'm in Luang Prabang Laos getting my Visa stamped. The place I had breakfast at a few minutes ago was buzzing with talk about the American Elections and the hope for a change of party. (these are mostly German, Swiss, English and Italians vacationing here on the Mekong)
P.D. @ 4:
No, the Democrats are smart to leaving him blow BS for a few more months. If he jumps officially to the republicans, it would give them control of the senate, with Cheney casting the tie breaking vote. Otherwise, I agree with you.
Laure @ 9:
yes he will no longer be incharge of handing out condoms and not be allowed to give sailors head jobs in the senates restrooms other then that he will resume being ahead of all commitys hes allways been in charge of!
Long Tooth @ 14:
You got that right brother. Not many want to admit it, but this is Vietnam all over again. Just different nouns queda instead of Cong etc.
Pericles @ 19:
I read the first bit as the Moriarity. That's an insult to the Sherlock Holmes villain.
Anywho, there's no way Iraqis approve of us just marching in there and turning Baghdad and Tikrit and Karbala and Basra into blood-strewn shitholes, and then just delaying leaving and thereby making it worse.
With Lieberman as #2, Al Gore would have been President for what...a month, maybe?
Lieberman, the most disgusting person in the world.
No one likes an occupying army.
I read once that some other commenter on here stays in Luang Prabang. Anyone know who that might be? If so I'm staying at the Chaliny GH. on Souvannabanlang Road right across from the river. It would be fun to meet one of the people from here and have drinks.
Lie-berman is intensely dislike, in Connecticut. He lied in the last election. Too bad they're stuck with him for 4 more years. I think it was Fineman tonight on KO's show who talked about his history of pious & santimonious demeanor while sticking a shiv into someone's back. This is a long time pattern. Yup, lookin' forward to his political demise. What goes around, comes around, Lie-berman.
What a loserman - If the Dem's pick up a few more senate seats in November, they need to boot his a$$ out of the caucas.
What planet are these people on??? Maybe this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n8uYzyF0Nk
"the Iraqi military, the Iraqi government that I’ve talked to don’t want us to just pick up and leave because —" .... Would it be the 12 Billion a month joe? what?
What kind of party are these clowns and liars from? And who in thier right mind would believe a single word?
its amazing how DUMB the american ppl have come to even let Joe Lieberman speak shit and tout that as proof!
WAKEY WAKEY!!! REPIGS!! your time has come,, and its no looking pretty.
I ALONE as a former expat,, here by declare that the current USA is under flag and seize.! The white house is controlled by traitors and scum, the cia and the fbi the same vermin. They represent nothing of interest of which the laws of the US constiution calls for.
Lying, cheating, bribes, illegal wars, fake intell, sending money to our ´´axis of evil´´ to make more war less peace. Lying under oath, fake medals given out to those that accepted them only to write a book years later stating it was a all a farce!
Soliders killed and slain by BAD commandors and even more bad oversight. Feeding money into a so called terroist groups to help keep the calm in Iraq and Afaghn etc other wars.
Pumping millions and billions of dollars to feed a war where some 200,000 weapons go poof! they have no idea where they went to. 6 Million dollars in shrink wrap on a cargo plane lands in iraq, that money is poof! too. WTF and WTF is controling the spending and the aid and the REAL SOLIDERS WORK? CONTRACTORS!!!!!!!!!!
and they make big bucks to the scummy lobbyists. I dare Obama or hillary to denounce this practise and end this shit. I am afraid that such a dare will never take place, because in the end all that buck passing leads RIGHT back to the whitehouse and capitol hill.
There will be no more change folks,, forget Obama,, and orpha(who died and let her become boss)? THERE will be only more taxes,, more suffering less changes for the working class hero, and more KICK BACKS taxes to the über rich.
Forget Hillary too, shes in debt up to her lower cleft. WHERE ARE THE HEROS THAT WANTED TO BECOME PREISDENT NOW NOT ALLOWED? RON PAUL;; DENNIS KUNNICH? WHERE? because they dont make enough MONEY for donations. MEANING, you got a name or a new idea or new standard (which some claim),, your in, the PRESS MAKES OR BREAKS YOU! and sadly it has done just what it wanted, it broke apart a great line of party members due to ´´color,, race and last name´´!
GOD BLESS AMERICA,, my home of the the former free. from the Wi to the xbox we salute all those that didint buy ps three!!!
Later folks and have a good night :)
Best regards,,
Friar Tuck @ 31:
Nite FT. good post.
General_Rennenkampf @ 15:
In middle America, there IS that much stupidity.
In Washington, it's just called setting agenda.
fastfeat @ 33:
My God, I've stumbled on an alternate reality! Save me Charleton Heston!
Friar Tuck, well said.
That was 6 billion, Friar Tuck. 6 billion missing shrink wrapped on a pallet for easy mobility.
No, you liar, McCain has said he wants us to stay in Iraq for 100 years, if not forever.
She may have just committed msm suicide.
konchster @ 2:
these bastards, and especially LIEberman will be denying this for eternity.
this turncoat and his
scientificpoll are hypocrites with their hand up their a$$es.Nothing new , Elmer Fudd Lieberman lying his ass off as usual , 80 percent of Iraqis want us the hell out of THEIR country , that is a fact .Next time he goes to Iraq I hope someone launches a scud and that it comes down directly on this asshole's head .
Two thoughts:
1) Maybe the Iraqis should be able to vote in our election. We're occupying their country, and their fate certainly rests with the whims of our government. Let them get a say in whomever is leading it.
That would certainly give the "spreading freedom and democracy" BS'ers a chance to put their money where their mouth is.
2) Isn't it a scary thought that even if everything in U.S. electoral history had turned out the way it was supposed to, we'd be counting down the days till the end of a Lieberman vice-presidency?
I weep that this thoughtful, brave, well-informed leader was deprived so unjustly of the vice presidency. Don't you?
Keira is awesome. Can we clone her?
I am so sick of hearing from Joe and McCain and the other morons that if we leave it will be a blood bath, there will be genocide and all that.
There already HAS been a genocide, and it STILL is a blood bath. I love how they ignore those facts.
Joe LIEberman, like John McCain and the rest of the Republicans, are willing to say and do anything, even lie, to win. The problem is, as Hillary Clinton has found out, that the American people are sick and tired of Republicans and their sympathizers playing on folks' fears to make them vote against their interests and are demanding change. Is it any wonder why LIEberman was rejected by his state's Democrats in last year's primary before Republican voters and money rescued him in the general election. It's time LIEberman, McCain, and their ilk get thrown under the bus by voters in November.
General_Rennenkampf @ 34:
get your hands off me you damned dirty ape!
joe no momentum's a smearmiester...he's with the enemy...clear and present...
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS217US217...
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 36:
dont worry its only paper , its not like thiers any gold backing it up!
8 trips to iraq....did holy joe once walk out of the green zone?
november cant get here fast enuf
i want this man stripped of everything
he makes me want to puke
"certainly not the ones that I’ve met when I’ve been there."
i wonder if he is refering to the people the military spin people lined up for him to talk to, while under heavy security and armed guards and helicoptors.
it has become far too difficult to even listen to this man speak anymore. as much as i want the 08 ellections to get here so we can be rid of bush, i can not wait for dems to take a larger chunk of the senate so liberman can be sent packing and loose any and all power he holds over the dems. what positive things has he done with the chairmanship given him anyway? can we name one accomplishment? what a worthless piece of chickenshit chickenhawk.
Those missing six billion dollars are one of the 'known unknowns'. God only knows how many other unknowns there are.
calgarylady @ 51:
I think you need to add several more billion to that number, like 4 or 6 more.
I'm so sick of this lying, war mongering piece of shit!
Yup. That sounds about right. Cheers.
The Emperor and his ilk no longer have any clothes. Nobody believes this crap anymore. You need to come up with a better lie, Joe.
"Senator McCain wants the war to stop and to have us pull back into bases and be on a path, a reasonable path of withdrawal"
Withdrawal? Is Senator McCain (soon to be President) wanting to withdraw? Who would argue that strategy? Cripes!
crock of "say anything" shit from the gop mole in the DLC, tailgunner joe LIEberman.
Robin @ 56:
a spokesman will clarify that later saying the drawdown will be form the 'surge' and that another 'friedman unit' will be needed for an assessment to take place. Then they'll attack another stronghold and say we need to continue the war until there are no casualties after another 'surge' and then ....
payback is a b!tch
Democrats may punish Lieberman for Republican convention appearance
Elana Schor in Washington guardian.co.uk,
Monday May 12 2008
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/12/usa.johnmccain?gusrc=rss&fee...
oh yes indeed joe, johnny's going down, in flames!
GOP getting crushed in polls, key races
By JIM VANDEHEI & DAVID PAUL KUHN | 5/10/08 12:49 PM EST
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10238.html
Joe lieberman, 1st VP candidate to LOSE TWO PARTY ELECTIONS!
Lieberman is the McCarthy of today. He's has become so unhinged, so lacking honest insight into the situation in Iraq that he's willing to lie, and create an entire false reality to protect his own self interest (his political hence power). To a certain extent we all do it, hence why we live in such a dichotomous world. The American political beast combined with a flawed psyche are disturbingly dangerous.
CoIntelPro against Repug DoucheBaggery @ 58:
Don' forget the rounded corners!
How often do we all hear this? "There will be death of Biblical proportions if we leave Iraq."
Is there any reason to believe that?
Has al quaeda released an official statement about this? How do we know for sure? And another thing, when is the expiration date for the war idea being the terrorism solution of choice?
We've been at it for a while.
DarkAlly @ 13:
and the eight times Joe was in Iraq, did he meet with Iraqi students & soldiers or the new governing elite?
Why would anyone expect him to give a fuck what the Iraqis think? Or care how many of them die? Or care how many American troops die? All Joe cares about is making the Middle East safe for Israel.
In his heart, he firmly believes that what is best for the Likud Party is best for America, the Middle East and the world. Lots of Americans have sympathies for their ethnic origins, but when you bring it up about Jewish people then folks are quick to paint you an anti-semite or far worse. My family left Ireland 60+ years before I was born, but I grew up with a grudge toward Protestants and the English and I HATED Thatcher.
What if our Middle Eastern policy was not all about carrying the Likud Party's water, but fixated on forcing Turkey to take responsibility for the Armenian Genocide? And what if such a policy trumped all other concerns? And what if such a policy was pushed by Sen Liebermannian, Douglas Feistian, Paul Wolfowitzian and journalists like William Kristolian and Charles Krauthammerian? Scooter Libbian? Judith Millerian? Would that be allowed to happen for one moment?
Reality is beginning to set in for the neocons, and it's not pretty
Obama Leads McCain as Bush, GOP Hit Record Lows
"Americans are gloomier about the direction of the country than at any point since 1992, and Democrats have matched their biggest advantage in 25 years as the party better able to deal with the nation's main problems," according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
"Overall, Democrats enjoy a 21-point advantage over Republicans as the party best-equipped to handle the nation's problems."
However, in a general election match up, Sen. Barack Obama leads Sen. John McCain, 51% to 44%, indicating McCain "continues to elude some of the anger aimed at his party and at President Bush."
President Bush got a record low 31% approval rating in the poll.
May 12, 2008 | Related News
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/05/12/obama_leads_mccain_as_bush_...
Actually, W's polls have been lower, much lower for some time now...
19 Percent Approve of Bush
by David Swanson
February 20, 2008 at 13:56:54
George W. Bush has set a record for unpopularity that may stand for all time: He now has a 19 percent approval rating. And, remember that Cheney has always polled LOWER than Bush. Imagine if the Democrats were to do something we care about (preserving the Constitution) by doing something they care about (winning elections) by forcing John McCain to choose between supporting impeachment and supporting these characters who may soon be less popular than the flu. Remember, Congress moved to impeach Nixon and STILL nobody liked him, but he was more popular than Bush or Cheney: He stayed at around 25 percent through the process. Clinton climbed from about 60 to 65 percent as a reaction to Congress prying into his personal life and attacking him for a non-impeachable offense. Which scenario do YOU think is more like the current one, Clinton's impeachment or Nixon's? Truman's popularity sank as Congress moved to impeach him too, but it never sank as low as Bush's and Cheney's.
Concerns over Economy Push George W. Bush's Overall Job Approval to New Low
DAVID SWANSON is a co-founder of After Downing Street, a writer and activist, and the Washington Director of Democrats.com. He is a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, and serves on the Executive Council of the Washington-Baltimore Newspaper Guild, TNG-CWA. He has worked as a newspaper reporter and as a communications director, with jobs including Press Secretary for Dennis Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign, Media Coordinator for the International Labor Communications Association, and three years as Communications Coordinator for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Swanson obtained a Master's degree in philosophy from the University of Virginia in 1997.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_sw_080220_19_percent_appro...
Keep saying it neocons, mcsame is 4 more years of bush!
Poll: Bush sinks, voters angry and concerned
Posted on May 12th, 2008 by political buzz
Judging by the results of a new ABC News/Washington Post poll gauging views on subjects from the popularity of President Bush to the direction of the country, the upcoming general election campaign will be full of Bush bashing (even from McCain) and attempts by the candidates to “feel the pain” of voters who feel that the U.s. has gone off the rails. May the toughest politician win, because that’s who voters are looking for. But is the toughest ‘08 candidate on the verge of leaving the race (Hillary)?
Lots of gloomy numbers, so let’s take a look:
Public disgruntlement neared a record high and President Bush slipped to his career low in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.
Eighty-two percent of Americans now say the country’s seriously off on the wrong track, up 10 points in the last year to a point from its record high in polls since 1973. And 31 percent approve of Bush’s job performance overall, while 66 percent disapprove.
Bush’s approval rating has been extraordinarily stable — before today’s 31 percent it had been 32 percent or 33 percent in nine ABC/Post polls from July through last month. In presidential approval polls by Gallup since 1934, just three presidents have gone lower: Jimmy Carter, who bottomed out at 28 percent approval in July 1979; Richard Nixon, 24 percent in July and August 1974; and Harry Truman, 22 percent in February 1952.
Bush now has gone 40 months without majority approval, beating Truman’s record (also during economic discontent and an unpopular war) of 38 months from 1949-52.
Beyond the president’s overall rating, intensity of sentiment is heavily against Bush. Fifty-two percent of Americans not only disapprove of his work but do so strongly, matching the high in ABC News/Washington Post polls set in July. Just 15 percent strongly approve.
http://political-buzz.com/2008/05/12/poll-bush-sinks-voters-angry-and-co...
Ahh yes the ole my unscientific poll is more valid than yours line. OK there Joe Blow
How did this sorry son of a bitch ever get to be a dem he is a fascist neocon nutcase. the sooner this fool is out of office alive or dead the better off America will be.
Fuck you traitor joe!
You know, I really don't even see Lieberman so much as a Republican anymore as just NOT an American. He looks at everything through the lense of Isreal. I believe that is where his alligence lies above all else. He has lied to those he was elected to represent and does not represent those people or their interests. He serves only himself. I hope the DEMs walk away in Nov with a big enough majority to toss him to the curb and be done with him. If he becomes a Republican officially, he won't have much clout and we can forget him.
I have seen pornographic videos with far more socially redeeming value than Joe Lieberman.
Tons of them!
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Sen. Joe LIARman
The undeclared Republican
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Joe wants to be the McBush VP running mate.. this time he'd get to run with a real hero or at least one not likely to be slimed like the hapless Kerry.. he's such a charming man, if he ever had a bowel movement he'd be presidential but there's constipation in his voice and he's a little slow on the drop.. though in fairness, his 'integrity' makes up for a lot of that..
Joe LIE-berman is the puppet-master to two people running for PRESIDENT this time McCain and H. Clinton and if either becomes President we will be at war with IRAN with in a year of them taking Office.
Lieberman, McCain, Bush are all the same. Facts do not matter, Lie to when a point. Lie with a straight face. Vote the Bums out!
Dig the deadpan freeze frame finish.
LIARMAN HAS SOLD OUT HIS OWN PEOPLE...
....THE IDIOTS WHO VOTED FOR HIM....
HE HAS EMBRACED, AS HAS JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN
THE EAT-BUSH AGENDA.
COULD SOMEONE PLEASE SEND THEM A SYMPATHY CARD
BY THE WAY... THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO REFER TO THE GOP CANDIDATE...
WHICH IS PROVEN TO PISS OFF HIS HANDLERS...
SO PLEASE JOIN ME..... link the man to the party
JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN
LIEBERMAN: And I’m surprised at what your unscientific poll found. I honestly don’t think it reflects the feeling of most Iraqis, certainly not the ones that I’ve met when I’ve been there.
I would like someone to tell me just who are these Iraqi people Lieberman met who thinks that things are going just "swimmingly" !?
'A Republican War'
Pretty much sums it up.
And yet, Repugs cannot figure out why their 'brand' is just not resonating with the American people.
Big Dick Cheney @ 78:
Worry Not.
McSame's lips are physically attached to Bush's ass all the way down to the sub-atomic level. The nuclear strong force is at work here. It's the most powerful known force in the universe. Not even Fox Snooze can garner enough energy to break that bond.
Holy Joe has NEVER spoken with an average Iraqi in the street or soldier at all! The only ones he's ever spoken to are the hand picked ones that represent a very tiny minority of Iraqis. Holy Joe is a worthless piece of lying war with Iran mongering shit.
the Iraqi people on the street, the Iraqi military, the Iraqi government that I’ve talked to don’t want us to just pick up and leave
Of course, he didn't have the opportunity to ask the, what, 2 million plus Iraqis who have fled their country.
THIS IS A NO WIN. Any way one chooses to look at it it's a no win. can this war be WON? define won. do we win if we totally devour that country and bring them to their knees? Basically haven't we done that already. Do we win in the minds and hearts of the american people? Unless we are the callous, uncaring people hiding behind a defense of patriotism, and defending our homeland then that too signals no win. lastly, does winning constitute leaving the country to fend for itself. It may very well implode and be overrun by al-quaida so there is no victory there as well for liberals who advocate leaving. Yet, that is my position. We need to leave and leave now. allow the country to settle into what it is going to be. most of the evil that exists there now came at the hands of American occupation. Still the Republicans who have never served and will not give up their loved ones to serve, hide behind patriotic platitudes, "if we leave now, all of those who have died will have died in vain." Vietnam deja vu. How long before our military realizes the quagmire they have been placed in and decides to strike back, at least through voice and non-cooperative action.
P.D. @ 4:
Smart? More like if the Democrats had any balls they'd strip Lieberman of all his commities. But as we've seen time and time again the Dems are spineless.
Kelvin Phillips @ 79:
He's probably referring to the Iraqi parliament members. I seriously doubt Holy Joe has met with very many of the average Iraqis who are living in the dangerous parts of Baghdad.
There are about 10,000 people in the U.S. right now who could best improve this world by leaving it. Joe Lieberman is one of them.
Joe Liberman on Hamas supporting Sen. Obama, but this morning on American Morning with Kyra Phillips, he was asked about not only the Iraqis people but the military also, wants the Americans out of their country. Sen. Liberman stated "I'm surpise to hear this, not that I expect the Iraqis to vote in our election"). And he's right, so why bring all this stuff about Hamas supporting Sen. Obama, because Hamas can not vote in our election.
Lieberman hears the stark truth of what the Iraqies would prefer and refuses to believe it... Wear blinders much Joe???
Lieberman....what a fucking useless waste of flesh..... That's pretty much it.. I got nothing else to say about that Quiesling phony.....JD
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