Voters still more concerned with Bush than Jeremiah Wright
Two weeks ago, an NBC/WSJ poll found an interesting trend in American public opinion: after hearing about Jeremiah Wright’s controversial sermons in a constant loop for months, voters were more concerned with John McCain’s association with Bush than Obama’s association with his former pastor. (Specifically, 43% of respondents were worried about McCain and Bush; 32% about Obama and Wright.)
Today, a new Gallup poll points to a similar public sentiment.
George W. Bush may do as much damage to John McCain’s chances of being elected as Jeremiah Wright does to Barack Obama’s, according to results of a recent USA Today/Gallup poll.
The May 1-3 poll finds 38% of likely voters saying McCain’s association with Bush makes them less likely to vote for McCain, while 33% say Obama’s association with Wright diminishes their likelihood of voting for Obama.
A strong majority of Americans (64%), including a near majority of Republicans (47%) said the Wright issue will not have any effect on their vote.
I’m a little torn as to whether this is good news for the likely Democratic nominee or not.
On the one hand, I’m delighted Americans are more concerned about McCain and Bush than Obama and Wright. That’s how it should be. On the other hand, shouldn’t the margin be considerably more dramatic than 38%-33%?
On the prior, Bush has become a political pariah. I’m occasionally attempted to describe him as “divisive,” but that’s clearly wrong — “divisive” would imply that critics and supporters are relatively even in numbers. They’re not; Americans have made up their minds about Bush and they really don’t like him. In this sense, it’s hardly surprising that voters are concerned about McCain’s ties to a wildly unpopular president.
But on the prior, Wright shouldn’t be anywhere near as controversial. That Wright is even close suggests the media’s efforts to make him a scandalous national personality and key campaign figure have been largely successful.
For what it’s worth, I’m inclined to look at the glass as half-full on this one. After several weeks of bombardment about Wright, during which time very little attention was paid to McCain’s connection to Bush, I wouldn’t have been surprised if the public had gone the other way and expressed more concern with Obama for his ties to his former pastor. We now have two recent national polls showing this isn’t the case.
The Wright issue, as far as I can tell, is the most serious weight on Obama’s shoulders, but it’s likely to fade a bit as the campaign shifts into general election mode, in part because the story has run its course. There’s just not much more to say — we’ve seen the clips, we’ve heard the sermons, and we know Obama’s response.
In contrast, Americans have barely heard a word about the similarities and connections between McCain and Bush, which leads me to think 38% is just a starting point, whereas 33% is the ceiling for the Wright number.
Reach around, anyone?
Interesting ... while Rev. Wright said "God damn America," President Bush was actually in the process of damning America.
To illustrate the point, voters think McCain plays "McSamey "in Grey's Anatomy.
I just luv the huggy kissy touchy stuff. I makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over. Like 3 week old moldy vomit.
On a side note, and off topic. Did anyone happen to see Mario Coumo on Cnn just a few minutes ago?
Compelling argument.
I presume that this 33% percent of people is made of primarily of the same nutjobs that think Bush is doing a dandy job.
Nothing to worry about. These people are obviously delusional.
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What do Mothers' Day and global warming have in common? Both, as it turns out, are essential ingredients in John McCain's "character" campaign for the White House. That is, given the staggering unpopularity of his party's platform and president, John McCain is now running away from both. From here on out, the McCain campaign will be about the character of the man.
For the details, see:
"Mothers' Day, Global Warming and McCain's 'Character Campaign.'"
Indubitably this is good news!
The powers-that-be exerted major energy on the Wright/Obama association and got little in return; the Wright issue will have vanished off the radar before fall.
On the other hand, McCain and/or his handlers have tried desperately to distance McCain from Bush. Gosh. Look at that montage at the head of this thread. And just think of all the juicy soundbites that can be spread thickly over the airwaves...
McCain is going to sink over the summer, and fall with an albatross named Bush slung over his shoulders.
lucky for obama !right?
Awwwww......
This deserves some Nicole Belle type of soundtrack. Like this.
Andy K Jong Il @ 10:
You should be banned for posting that
:P
Andy K Jong Il @ 10:
I knew you were goin there. no really. I guessed.
miss_kitty @ 11:
Journey Rocks!!! I'm going to see them, again, this summer! :D
Love the cute pics, but, should've used the McSame birthday cake photo while New Orleans drowned.
To hug and hold Bush is to know him.
Once you've gone Bush, you'll never go back.
Andy K Jong Il @ 10:
Wicked porn 'stache on Schon.
Steve Perry was the female Pat Benatar
miss_kitty @ 1:
Quite the sausage fest, indeed.
I disagree that the media has been successful. A decent portion of the country still, despite the disastrous effects, supports failed right wing polices. The percentage of people thinking that Wright is an issue is probably made up largely of people who are going to vote for McCain anyway or are too thick to see how ridiculous it is to think that Wright is such a big issue with all of the problems the country is facing, with McCain’s DOA proposals and the crazy right wing preachers around McCain. I don't think the campaign has been successful what so ever, the people saying they're affected by Wright would say that they're affected by anything the corporate media throws at them to justify what they decided long ago. If the percentage of peopel "affected" by Wright were higher than McCain's polling numbers I think you could say it was a success.
OBAMA NEEDS TO USE FORCEFUL LANGUAGE TO TALK TO HILLBILLY'S BASE. since they are aparently under-educated and may have a hard time following his long and winding sentences....
He should say.
JUDGE ME BY MY WORDS AND MY RECORD. I DO NOT REPRESENT ANYONE'S BELIEFS BUT MY OWN....
HE NEEDS A SPEECH ON PATRIOTISM. these non-issues may be non-issues for the educated, but under-educated need to be told that...
Helping laid off factory workers, get benefits and get a new start( chicago) is patriotic.
Serving as a civil rights attorney is patriotic...
opposing wars that imperile national security is patriotic...
galvanizing a nation to reclaim her destiny is patriotic....
striving for energy independence is patriotic
it is bush's torture, katrina handling, endless war, breach of habeas corpus, that are unpatriotic.
the issue behind the wright issue is patriotism. he needs to hit that, and hit it out of the park. he can not make philosophical arguments about patriotism he has to be blunt
I am a true and blue patriot. there is not a better country on the face of the earth, nor one with more promise.
The Spaniard @ 5:
I would say that 28% are brain dead and another 5% to 10% go through periods of confusion and disorientation. Throw in a couple percent representing the wealthiest murikans and you're within a diebold's margin of victory!
I love the montage. Any pics of them spooning?
I'm no Chuck Todd, but in Nov its change versus Bush3. And McFucker is Bush3.
After w was reelected, I concluded it would be insane to think the American people would do the right thing.
"Voters still more concerned with Bush than Jeremiah Wright"
as if jeremiah wright comes in a close second, in the list of 'concerns'....
jeremiah wright, and my 'concern' about him, factors in somewhere between my 'concern' about yogurt and my 'concern' about why my puppy likes sticks sooooo very much.
this is not only a false comparison by the msm, but a stupid one too. THEY made jeremiah the issue by the 24/7 technicolor coverage of him.
things i am more concerned about:
mccain and bush
mccain and hagee
mccain and LIEberman
fuck, mccain all around: his views, his policies, his flip-flops, his age, his cancer, his wargasmic self, etc.
the illegal iraq war
climate change
torture
gitmo
"free" market crazies
out-sourcing
neoliberalism
neocolonialism
neofascism
neoconservatism
energy dependence
israel and america
hillary and bill
hillary and "the fellowship"/"family" (see, mother jones article on her cult-like quasi-religious, illuminati-esque religious affiliation)
hillary in general
and much, much more….
but not jeremiah wright. couldn't give 2 honking shiznibbits. that is a false and distracting issue.
If you look at the survey, it shows the opposite of what the headline implies (assuming democrats will vote for Obama and republicans for McCain):
19% of democrats are less likely to vote for Obama because of Wright
10% of republicans are less likely to vote for McCain because of Bush.
In any case, it's a pretty worthless survey, IMHO.
Rusty Shackleford @ 16:
I hate Journey. I've hated Journey since the pre-MTV days, then when MTV came on they played the fucking Journey videos 4 times an hour. You'd have to stay tuned so you didn't miss something cool like Joe Jackson's It's Different For Girls or some Tenpole Tudor whackiness....But 4 Journey songs in an hour! It was enough to make a 16 year old hipster douchebag sick for life!
But Nicole likes Journey- more like is in love with them ( :^P )- and the song fits, so....
Comparing the two is ridiculous in the first FKN place and the only reason Rev. Wright is a major " issue " in the first place , is because the Cable CESSPOOL manufactured the issue , starting with that loud mouth lying Hannity and then it was picked up by the echo chamber and by those that wanted to do damage to Obama .
A far bigger issue is why McSame rolled over and supported Bush's definition of TORTURE , why McSame doesn't give a damn about the FACT, the majority of IRAQIS want the U.S. to END the occupation , flying in the face of McSame's assertion we can keep troops in Iraq forever , but those dots were never connected , because of the jingoistic , lapdog media that cares less what Iraqis WANT and continously resists any objective fact based criticism, of the possibly next NEOCON to take office .
Blue Lensman @ 20:
The odds may improve if a company McSame's campaign strategist Charlie Black works for, United Tech, buys Diebold.
Seeing the two of those scum bags hugging and all but french kissing is enough to turn the strongest of stomachs.
Andy K Jong Il @ 25:
Dude, that is so wrong. I'm never going to live down that LNMC. I'm telling you, it was for Silent Patriot and only because I refused to use his Styx video. Because, it was...you know, Styx. Never been able to stomach Dennis DeYoung.
However, I will say that my very first crush (literally the boy next door) was a HUGE Journey fan and my first boy-girl date (with my dad in tow chaperoning us--how embarrassing) was a Journey concert. So I'll always have fond memories of Lovin', Touchin' and Squeezin' because if my dad wasn't there, that's exactly what I would have been doing with Randy Miller.
Samson- @ 23:
YOUR puppy likes sticks TOO?!?!?!?
;)
Andy K Jong Il @ 25:
Our experiences sound remarkably similar. I've softened on Journey since then, though. Neil Schon was a talented individual. But I guess that's enough of this OT...
Please, no more Rev. Wright. Let this non-issue die.
Blue Lensman @ 30:
oh? your puppy has the same affliction?
she can't get enuff of them, they're like some sort of wood-based, puppy crack. she is 8 months old and is the stick-destroyer.
Nicole Belle @ 29:
That is correct. I swear on a stack of Funhouse LPs that as long as I can type I will never allow it. Ever. :D
And don't you see that I'm purposely trying to replace those memories with new ones, like those posted up top? Evil, huh?
In related news, McCain's political ally, Christian Zionist John Hagee, has apologized to anybody who was offended by his insane bigotry.
You people need help. How can you NOT like Styx, Journey, Cheap Trick, etc., etc.!?!?!
Rusty Shackleford @ 35:
bwhahahaahaa
*cough* bullshit *cough*
notice how he doesn't apologize for his katrina comments. or any other time he acted like a mean, insulting, fat slug. which is to say, all the time. he owes the world an apology for his birth and his simple, yet unbelievably insulting, existence. if hagee got down on one fat roll and apologized for ever being born, then he would start his path to self recovery.
also, notice how quickly Bill 'sorry about the spittle flying from my corn-kernel teeth' Donohue accepted his apology too.
pure theater. pure farce. pure disrespect.
Can't they at least find a public restroom to do their little dance in? jesus christ, it's ef'ing disgusting aint it?
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Ooooo Kay
Are they lovers?
"George W. Bush may do as much damage to John McCain’s chances of being elected as Jeremiah Wright does to Barack Obama’s..."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe 38 is more than 33. So the sentence really ought to read, "Bush may do *more* damage to John McCain’s chances..."
L.A. Confidential @ 39:
I mean come on can't you see whats going on? I mean this woman is has about as much in common with the average person as Paris Hilton.
L.A. Confidential @ 42:
Isn't the campaign finance chairman's role basically that of head fund-raiser? She's not writing Obama's economic policy is she?
Wright spoke the truth!
Blackie @ 44:
You should be banned for stupidity and ignorance.
Such close numbers still make the election stealable.
Rusty Shackleford @ 35:
I'm offended, but I don't accept his apology.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 36:
That stuff is stale. I liked it when I was 14. I grew up.
Rusty Shackleford @ 43:
I sure hope not.
getalife @ 22:
Things haven't hit bottom yet.
Only a demented Republican dead-ender would care more about Wright than the fact that we have a psychotic, lying thug running our country. And all the psychos he appointed.
That's right, Republicans, a fun-loving and loving black preacher in Chicago is more important than the ugly reality of George W. Bush. And you wonder why Democrats have little if any respect for you stupid and mean and dangerous clowns.
Shut that preacher up!
a majority of 38-33. shouldn't it be more. not in light of the vast ignorance of the american idol voting american public. don't underestimate their ignorance. it has no bounds.
McSame is McBush all over again - but the senile version! He is equally demented, equally sociopathic, and equally "unfit" to be commander in chief.
'nuf said about McDouchebag!
Emma Hussein Goldman @ 48:
I hated when I was 14. But, I grew up....now I like it. :)
P.S. once McNutbag is swiftboated for his leadership as Cincus Navier of the USS Forestal and Liberty accidents (168 of his own men dead due to his lack of intelligence and 234 injured)....he won't have a snowball's chance (hey, that's what he reminds me of.....a melting snowball that's been bantered about the street, under cars, and dirtied up to a nice shade of gray!).
Google: USS Forestal - July 29, 1967 "A Day Which Will Live in Infamy as the Swiftboating of John McCain".
The Dems need to have an a commercial in which they show Bush giving quotes about the economy, health care, Iraq, etc., followed by McCain saying (as we've heard him do) virtually the same thing. I'm sure the staff at the Daily Show could put one together for them if they're too boneheaded to figure it out.
God, kiss him already!
I keep wondering about this maverick, experienced in matters of the military? After having destroyed 5 US fighter planes, he got himself shot down over Vietnam and sat in the Hanoi Hilton.
After proclaiming that he knows practically nothing about matters of the economy, he proclaimed that he would 'educate' citizens. After serving in the Senate he still has no idea what the job of judges or the Supreme Court Justices entail. He does not seem to care that rulings are to be based on law for judges, and the Constitution for Justices.
Quote: "Federal judges today, issue rulings and opinions on policy questions, it should be decided democratically. Assured of lifetime tenures, these judges show little regard for the authority of the president, the congress and the states. They display even less interest in the will of the people. and the only remedy available to any of us is to find, nominate and confirm better judges".
2 videos at my site.
jezsik @ 2:
In the end, that's why Bush has a 28% approval rating and Wright has a 30 something approval rating.
Which is worse, someone who says weird things or someone who says and does bad things?
The rethugs do need to be concerned about the McCain man crush on Bush. I don't think anyone could be so "physical" if there wasn't a real admiration for him. McCain is a total nemrod if he can overlook the political shenanigans Bush/Rove inflicted on he and his family in the 2000 run! McCain is so dishonest in this relationship with Bush, it literally taints everything he says and does now. How can anyone possibly respect McCain when he so easily sells his soul to Lucifer Cheney! No one will ever convince me that there isn't some kind of Bush/Cheney/Rove pre-agreement with McCain. I just think that all the other candidates so conveniently dropped out at the exact same time. This whole republican race has been totally choreographed!
It's good to know that some people are able to think without the CM (corporate media) telling them how.
Bush=McCain
McCain=Bush
Blather, rinse and repeat - often!
o/t: Did you know that many in the Bush Administration have been charged with war crimes? Read it now!
Just looking at those pictures, all I can say is, "GET A ROOM."
Out of those 6 pictures, why didn't anyone get the one in the center bottom just after that one in the film sequence where McCain goes down on his knees?
Not only are they not worried about Reverend Wright, but they are also not too worried about Reverend Hague or anyone else that is not running for Office.
American people have shown in so many ways of just how sick and tired of this media who have nothing else they are willing to talk about.
They are not going to discuss the high gas prices, the fact that millions of Americans are losing their homes and jobs,the price for food is over the top and we are still losing our kids in that hell hole of Iraq.
The very people responsible for this shite are paying the salaries of these cheap thugs with these million dollar advertisements.
Does Bush have the face of a jerk or what?
In the fall if the Democrats don't have commercial with footage of McCain hugging Bush and showing how he will continue the Bush policies note for note, then they have rocks for brains. Sorry, this is easy.
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