Conyers: "We're closing in on Rove. Someone's got to kick his ass"
By Bill W. Thursday May 15, 2008 9:10pm
Just off the House floor today, the Crypt overheard House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers tell two other people: "We're closing in on Rove. Someone's got to kick his ass."
Asked a few minutes later for a more official explanation, Conyers told us that Rove has a week to appear before his committee. If he doesn't, said Conyers, "We'll do what any self-respecting committee would do. We'd hold him in contempt. Either that or go and have him arrested."
[...] Yesterday, in somewhat more diplomatic language, Conyers refused Rove's offer to testify in writing. ...(more)
Between Conyers here along with Rep. Robert Wexler's stance on Rove, Biden's literally calling BS on Bush, and the House's actually voting to cut off funding for Iraq and setting a plan to pull the troops out, it really has me wondering if there hasn't been some kind of a cosmic shift in the Democratic Party lately. Perhaps the third win over the GOP in red districts has lent them some confidence, but whatever it is, may we have some more of that, please?
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Sic 'em! Sic 'em!
Sic Semper tyrnanis!
Sic 'em
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Republicans should go ahead and keep thinking that they're smarter than everybody else. Watch what happens.
It is truly amazing what can happen during an election year in the USofA.
I'll believe it when I see it!
P.D. @ 5:
I'll believe half of it when I see.
From a friendly Canadian's point of view: the true healing of America can only begin when those who have tarnished your country have been laid bare before your legal system. Rove, Rumsfield, Cheney, etc... they must all be made responsible for what they have done.
when I see IT, that is.
Why did it take the loss of those republican-held seats to instill a sense
of "confidence" in the Democratic Party?
What made the last eight years so surreal was the complete lack of fight
on the part of Dems.
There's the excuse that the country wasn't on the side of the Dems until recently.
But if they had shown just an ounce of fight in '04, Kerry could have kicked that
frat boy's ass.
Rove will have plenty of time to write letters to Congress when he's urging for an early release from prison. Maybe Bubba his rehabilitator can lend him some toilet paper.
Between Conyers here along with Rep. Robert Wexler’s stance on Rove, Biden’s literally calling BS on Bush, and the House’s actually voting to cut off funding for Iraq and setting a plan to pull the troops out, it really has me wondering if there hasn’t been some kind of a cosmic shift in the Democratic Party lately. Perhaps the third win over the GOP in red districts has lent them some confidence, but whatever it is, may we have some more of that, please?
I've noticed it too. And liked it for the most part.
What scares me is that it's either a growing, collective anger, and the readiness to really fight a battle to win in November, or a growing, collective sense that it is now politically safe to say what they're saying. I suppose those aren't mutually exclusive, but if it's the latter alone, it can so easily morph into idiotic complacency on the part of Democrats heading into November, whereupon the Republican smear machine will gobsmack them yet again.
Some years ago, I sorta kinda had some respect for Conyers....
Years of crying wolf, and then I realized this sap is married to this lady:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AWzXy4hljac
Soooooo, right Mr. Conyers, suuuuuuure. Just shut the hell up and go back to the circle jerk that seems to be the Dem leadership in both houses these days.
Carl will be a convict someday, gotta wait for Dumbo to leave in fear of the pussy using the pardon pen.
Great news...and about damn time sirs!
Please tell us his testimony will be under oath!
Wait until the Chimp is no longer in office before arresting Rover... We wouldn't want to a little ol' pResidential Pardon to get in the way of JUSTICE.
"These things must be done delicately...or you hurt the spell!" - Wicked Witch of the West
“We’ll do what any self-respecting committee would do. We’d hold him in contempt. Either that or go and have him arrested.”
Great to hear Conyers talking tough on the bastard who is largely responsible for manufacturing 8 long years of darkness for Americans.
I prefer to let this drag out until there is no way Bush can pardon this prick. Let him sit in jail for a good long time.
And I will only be satisfied when the rest of the criminals in the abomination of an administration are with him.
Impeach. Indict. Try. Hang. The whole lot of 'em.
Many have been charged...on to the next step! Eventually, the world will not allow these criminals to bully them...and I, for one, will rejoice in it. We will not be America until these criminals are brought to justice on a world stage.
5 P.D. Says: I’ll believe it when I see it!
I agree, I would love to see any one of these criminal assholes in prison or at least in front of a grand jury. I would prefer to see them scatters around a race track with Nascar drivers on the course...kind of Death Race 2000 style!
I probably shouldn't make jokes like that but screw it!
Rove slams Obama over 'bitter' comments, flag pin
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/16/rove-slams-obama-over-bi...
thanks Bill W.
"a cosmic shift in the Democratic Party"
i believe Obama is unifying the Democratic Party with his courageous talking points, especially fighting back (with truth and integrity) and denouncing publicly all the slimy, lying wingnut attacks.
every person with an ounce of moral fiber should denounce and condemn every lying word that comes out of an evil Bushie, lunatic fringe talking head, or Republican mouth.
Geo @ 16:
Obviously you are not acquainted with the 4-set program that seems to be the MO of Mr. Conyers:
Step 1. Talk about the seriousness of the issue
Step 2. Talk tough and threaten with contempt notices
Step 3. Talk about sending a strongly worded letter
Step 4. Go back to Step 1
Tyler Durden @ 12:
THAT ONE is extremely perplexing.
Has completely changed my view of this Conyers.
But its ok by me if he wants to harass Rove to the grave.
If not Rove, who? He is the Uriah Heep of the 21st century (and I don't mean the band.)
Alice Hussein @ 6:
I think Conyers has the spine to got through with it, unfortunately a majority of his Democratic colleagues and Nancy Pelosi don't.
I would give ANYTHING to see ONE, just ONE of these a-holes go down!
John Conyers is all talk. He dont have the balls to subpoena, issue contempt charges or arrest the great Karl Rove.
The Dem leadership still consists in a bunch of chickenshits. They still have a long way to go before they resurrect themselves. They need more like Webb and Wexler, and less like Pelosi and the rest of them that have the intestinal fortitude of a earthworm.
I'm trying to email Conyers with my concerns and support, however I'm being turned away when I try to email.....
I love Conyers for what he's doing, and I'd like to, at the very least, voice my support and try and make/help/hope/INSIST he'll contiue what he's doing. It needs to be done, and I'll be very happy to support whoever is doing it.
It's just that I cannot figure out why I'm not able to email him with my support!!!
Can someone help, please??
Thanks - Annette
And maybe (and I'm sorry, Hillary supporters), Obama's win over Hillary proves to them that they can't play the getting-along-while-doing-nothing game anymore. Maybe now they get it--the people do, in fact, want change.
For years, I have been banging my head against the wall, praying, pleading with the gods for something. Divine intervention, Karma, Poetic Justice, I'm not choosy. Just something to get my faith back in this Government.
GO FOR THE JUGULAR !!!
John, I'll hold your coat for you. Can I watch you kick his ass?
Fuck Rove...Impeach Bush!!!!..he's the real criminal...but i won't hold my breath
I am just going to sit here and watch Conyers do his best. If he succeeds i will have reason to celebrate. If he doesn't, he dosen't.
In the meantime i will cheer him on.
I won't hold my breath on this
Tyler Durden @ 21:
Yes, I'll repeat what I said, it's great to hear Conyer's talk tough on the bastard. Let's all hope something gets done this time. I could be just another cynical poster but I won't be because this is important.
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's just more big and tough words.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 34:
Hope you're in a comfortable chair.
He's been talking smack for about, hmmm, eight years now?
I sure hope that's true. Now, if you'll only go after the chimp.
FBush @ 38:
ANd has had less that 2/3's of the vote for two decades.
Geo @ 36:
I used to think just like you. But after a few dozen of Mr. Conyers shenanigans.... pardon if I am a bit more than skeptical.
I am not a betting man, but I would be willing to bet a month's salary that nothing is going to come out of this.
All you folks who keep blaming the Democrats; i hope you have not allowed a Republican into the House or Senate in your District because if you have i blame all this shit on you!
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 42:
Wouldn't argue with you on that.
I'm calling bullsh!t on Conyers (and all the Dems who have played similar tough guy games). Nothing will ever come of this and Rove knows it. The republicans all know it. The dems don't have the spine to do what all of us know is morally and legally the right thing to do. There has never been a more corrupt administration in our history and yet we continue to allow both sides to get away with this. BULLSH!T!!!
I'm finding it hard to look my children in the eye anymore.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 42:
Colorado has become Blue. But, the Salazars who represent the the Southern Districts as Democrats have left an awful lot to be desired. It's walking the walk, not just talking the talk!
Don @ 33:
Can't they do both? Fuck Rove AND Impeach Bush?
Hayduke @ 44:
Go get a left wing strong Democrat elected as soon as possible and take your children along and show them (and yourself) what you can do to make this country a democracy again.
Rove will never testify. All of the Bush cronies are above the law.
L.A. Confidential @ 19:
and yet they lose to a Democrat in Mississippi...
I guess saying Barack Hussein Obama, bitter and flag pin over and over doesn't work.
hmmmmm
Gay marriage in CA. House votes to reject added funds Iraq. Polar bears get help. Congress to step up to Rove.
Let's see what's for real and what's a mirage.
While he may be right about Rove needing a good comeuppance, Conyers has been "Spectoring" Democrats for far too long... I'm tired of his chest beating and posturing. I want to see some true spinal fortitude.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm with the others expressing skepticism. I will believe it when I see them act upon it.
And then of course there's the timing. It's the eleventh hour of the shrub co. crime family fascist regime and they're just getting around to this.
It's hardly a show of force or a sign of strength.
Is this going to be the trade? They'll give the Dems Rove in exchange for and end to further investigations up the ladder.
Wait and see I guess.
bullshit
im sick of the dems talking tuff and doing shite
I'm hoping this is not just an attempt to get Dem voters to vote recumbent Milquetoasts back into office.
There should be thousands of subpoenas issued like the gop did during the Clinton administration.
Stop talking and start holding them accountable.
Annette @ 28:
Here you go Annette: john.conyers@mail.house.gov
Rep. Conyers will also accept two (2) faxes free per day ......(202) 225-0072 Fax
Go after these guys and knock 'em down!
And when we get 'em down, lets all kick 'em WHILE they're down!
Only one word for you Mr. Conyers- BULLSHIT
“We’re closing in on Rove. Someone’s got to kick his ass”
I VOLUNTEER!!!
Change?
Maybe. But for what the Dems could hope to do with confrontation with BushCo, this late start is what you would have expected from the outset.
Confrontation was never going to get Bush out of office before 1/20/09. BushCo's crimes, quite unlike Nixon's, were done with widespread knowledge and cooperation within the party. Dem investigations could quite literally have uncovered a smoking gun, and we still couldn't have shaken loose enough Republican senators to convict, because too many of them would have had their own fingerprints on the gun. Not that we were going to get much evidence fast enough, given that the administration has custody of the evidence, and, unlike for Watergate, control of the prosecutors, because we no longer have Special Prosecutors.
But many things other than an early out for Dubya can be accomplished with legal confrontation.
Obviously, scandal can't help their side when the voters pull the lever, and legal confrontation is both scandal in itself, and keeps whatever wrong-doing is its subject in the public eye. But, though this is an obvious advantage, and one you would want to time for the campaign season, I don't think it's the main advantage here. This administration already has an embarassment of riches when it comes to scandal. It's not as if that pot needs stirring.
More importantly for the election, the administration's ability to commit further crimes needs to be reined in. Skullduggery, most obviously involving abuse of surveillance, but also in regards to provoking war with Iran, and the terrorist attacks that the administration would hope would follow, is about the only thing that this toxic administration can do to help McCain win. Legal confrontation is a great way of sending the message to their potential enablers and facilitators in the government that there will be consequences if they help this administratrion break the law. BushCo can protect them for now, but that protection will cease abruptly when President Obama is the one who controls the evidence and the prosecutors after 1/20/09. We need to send the message now that there will be consequences later, because now is in time to deter collaboration with whatever October Surprise BushCo is planning.
We may also be seeing an effort by those Dems who want there to be legal consequences after 1/20/09 to start a process now so that Dems who would prefer to avoid such consequences for BushCo would not be able to stop it by the time President Obama takes office. There are a lot of reasons, some worthy, and many not so worthy, for Dems to want to avoid legal consequences for BushCo. Personally, I think that prosecutions are inevitable, because BushCo was so completely undisciplined and indiscriminate in their law-breaking that even if Obama was as anti-prosecution as we can imagine he might be, the sheer scale of criminality, and number and scope of victims, will unravel any attempt to cover for his predecessor. Victims will be able to sue on their own, Dem appointees will find their departments unable to be fixed without calling in the prosecutors, whistleblowers emboldended by the new administration will come out of the wood work unbidden to talk to reporters, and Dem legislators will have their own ideas about what should and shouldn't be forgiven and forgotten. We may be seeing the beginning of that last group staking out their claim to set the BushCo criminal culpability agenda. The only thing we can be sure of is that there is indeed plenty of gold in them thar hills.
The neocons say waterboarding is 'safe',but not torture.....karl, have a seat.
Hayduke - I cannot even come close to expressing how much I agree with you!!!
Former Republican - thank you!
ps. i'm glad you've come around!
Can someone please shut this guy up? All he does is talk and not act.
It's pathetic.
When I hear this guy Conyers talk, I can't help but thing of Monty Python and the Spanish Inquision.
"Cardinal Fang, fetch the comfy chair!"
"Hee, hee, confess! confess!"
Tyler Durden @ 21:
I thought step 1 was to take impeachment off the table?
What the fuck... in a 'democracy' you lazy ass democracy lovers expect your reps to carry sawn off shotguns while they read the fucking 'patriot' act in their spare time and a bunch of coordinated chickenhawk talk radio blowhards get to say whatever they want to 50MIL, directed by the bush GOP? lazy sacks of crap.
Conyers and Wexler deserve full support from all Americans at this time.
thanks for nothing, conyers.
fuck off. you've done nothing.
*sigh* I'll believe it when I see it.
OH......HELL......YES
Better late than never, right???
Even though it late, and many lives later, still.....better later than never!!!
I know/I feel the disappointment myself. I'm across the Bay from Nancy Pelosi's district. As soon as she said that Impeachment was off the table - I just wanted to puke and hide somewhere. still do.
But still, one small step later, by some 'insignificant' house-member.......my hopes grow again.
You mean to say they are finally getting off their collective ass and are aiming to do something? Or is this just another red herring to bolster the congressional seats that are up for grabs? Bush has less than 8 months left and they are now waking up to the misery he has caused? And they wonder why their rating is lower than his. What a bunch of idiots they are and what a bunch of morons we are for letting them lead. Throw that whole useless group out and start fresh because nothing is going to change until that whole pack is out of there. Maybe they can all get jobs commenting like Rove. They aren't good for much else.
[C'mon 99. Do I have to explain it again? deleted, posting in all Bold lettering. Site Monitor]
Ruthless People @ 66:
That is Pelosi's MO, it is slightly different.
It involves:
1. taking impeachment off the table
2. give money to finance every single one of Bush's excesses
3. with a straight face chastise Bush.
In other words, or translating it to every day speak:
1. We're not going to punish you Mr Bush
2. here it is a few billion dollars for you Mr Bush
3. you're a bad boy Mr Bush!
*yawn* But by all means, let me know how bad it would be if the Dems were not to control both houses.
FBush @ 9:
well, kerry was an empty suit, a 'im not the other guy' candidate
but thats not my big concern...my big concern is that karl rove will tell congress to go screw themselves, he'll be held and convicted of contempt and immediately pardoned...sound familiar?
Conyers is a piece of work but have you ever seen his wife Debbie in action? She is on YouTube somewhere telling the council president to shut up and then is seen trying to explain her actions to a group of young junior high school students who are calling her out. Not a pretty sight.
My Prediction: Right before leaving office Bush will grant immunity to an overwhelming and unprecedented number of cronies and thugs. More than Clinton and Reagan combined.
Their time of bs work is done. The internet is playing a big role in this election.
We're gonna ride the repugs to the big house. Yee Haw!
They'd better start working on impeachment whether pelosi wants it or not.
Go Obama!
Go USA!
Pat J @ 76:
Conyers is just grandstanding. And good god, his wife is a real work of art. I can understand why he is a Hillary supporter. He has no huevos!
Inherent Contempt (using the very small enforcement power of Congress -- the Sergeant-of-Arms) will not work with this administration -- they are amoral bullies. If it was issued, Rove would simply stay of Washington D.C. If somehow they were able to arrest him which seems very unlikely, Bush and Cheney would use overwhelming force and break him out of Congress's tiny jail. Who would stop them? I think this whole thing is a fantasy.
Matt @ 80:
theoretically Congress can go to the DoJ and they tell the FBI to go get Rove.
or US Marshalls, or even bounty hunters.
One thing to remember is that Rove is 'hired help' just as those two republican strategists were down in Florida, in that double murder and suicide case recently.
If I was Rove I would be very worried that some Republican would want me retired permantlly, and not able to sing.
Remember 'Scooter' Libby didnt fly during his court ordeal, he took the train.
Annette @ 63:
I may be a bit older than you. I cam around after the Eisenhower administration!
Forget it, John. You should have done something about impeaching Bush and Cheney, but you didn't then. You're not going to do anything about Rove now. I have lost all confidence in you and Pelosi and Reid. You all claimed you are going to "drain the swamp". NOTHING has been done nor will it with the likes of you all in where you are.
84:
I agree. This trash-talk is just that... talk.
The Democrats are like an abused housewife. We keep hearing them say "No more! I'm leaving! I'm calling the police on him!"
And we cheer, and say good for you.
Then two days later, she's at home getting his slippers and preparing dinner.
And when you see this often enough, you stop pitying the Dems, and you start saying "You're pathetic."
Wow, if you read all the comments in this story, you see them fall into two easy camps:
"Great news…and about damn time sirs!"
versus
"I'll believe it when I see it. Put up or shut up."
I suspect there is a similar difference in the average length of time each group has been closely following the actions of the Democratic party.
About time ROVE is brought befor the AMERICAN PEOPLE under OATH. Rove should have been in a ORANGE jump suit a year ago, in my oppinion.
I have watched conyers flap his lips a million times, and a million times have seen him do shit. Do the sitting dems think we will forget which members stood up for us when we needed it most and which members fucked us the whole time? Madam non speaker,? Harry,? If you have not kept up with your congress critters votes, now is the time to review their record on each issue and pay no heed to spin or reasons why they could not do this or that, fuck-em, we have been calling,writing,marching, e- mailing and even begging to people who do not care. Now is the time that they pay the piper! Any and all who caved in, took bribes ,was to frightened and had no spine, plain stupid, lazy, took no action when called for, any and all right down to the last scum covered rat. Except for a small handful, everyone sitting in office before 06, needs to be removed asap and a real person put there who will do the will of the people. Everybody always says, congress works for the people, well now is the time to fire the eggsucking rats and get new ones, and if we don't like the new rats ,we will fire them too! Their seems to be an active program which is endeavoring to cleanup loose ends or weak links to crimes commited by power and its minions, some have made news, some have not, dc madam hanged herself? cia agent shot by police, both motors in a plane stop at the same time,crash kills voting machine ex ceo, pilot has links to cia and crashed coke plane, plane itself has ties to flight training school (911). How long before you are a loose end karl? I see you stuffed into a fifty gallon drum, behind a deserted factory leaking a dark fluid onto the ground. CEO
HAVE HIM ARRESTED. And, for "the love of god" please-please-please put it on YouTube so everyone can have a good jeer.
John @ 86:
Yes, but foolishly or not, some of us are holding out with HOPE. (One day change has gotta come.) (or we'll all go insane)
bitter Edwin Hussein Says:
The definition of insanity is repeating the same actions over and over again, and expecting different results.
I would tactfully suggest, that you and the others holding out hope, have already gone insane.
You just don't recognise it.
oh what i'd give to see a bastard like Rove in handcuffs or locked away someplace far from washington.
More Conyers tough talk, but don't expect anything to actually happen.
Rove will testify about the same day Kenny Boy does.
Sorry, I'm not going to get too excited until I see Rove or one of the others being led away in cuffs.
Reminds me of the "law enforcement scene" here in South Florida. Lots of talk about how the sheriffs need more funding to combat crime, so they go out and buy lots of shiny new 4WD SUVs with alloy wheels and other fancy stuff to pull over people going 2MPH over the speed limit. Meanwhile, "real" crime continues unabated. Wouldn't want to put one of those "dirty" guys on the new leather interior...
L.A. Confidential @ 19:
"We here have news for Barack Obama," Rove said. "The values of those people you diminished are the values of America. And those people don't like getting patronized, or viewed as an alien species, by a fellow who pretends to embody a new kind of politics, and especially by someone who wants to be president not of red states or blue states, but the United States."
This from the fuckwit who gave us the "red and blue state" concept!
Sorry guys, the time for Rove to have been incarcerated has passed. If he's out there spewing his drivel now, he'll be doing it in November. Just not enough time to make a difference before the elections.
If the Democrats lose in November, a portion of the blame needs to go on Conyers' shoulders for crying wolf for so long.
QED @ 7:
Exactly!! They must be brought to justice for their crimes against the American people and the country and the World!! I hope I live to see the day this happens to these greedy cowards and warmongerers!!
blackjack @ 87:
I would have to say, several years ago!! He is a disgusting example of a "normal" human being!!
BET against it. Wake up people. The United States of America has collapsed. The
criminals-in-Congresss have simply decided NOT to announce for fear the revolution WILL be
televised.
If you go by past perfornances, the Judiciary Committee main purpose is for media consumption.
Good luck in the United Gulags of America
They had better act quickly on this criminal cabal and begin impeachment proceedings on President Monkey Boy less he hands out blanket pardon's on his way out the door in January... assuming he even desides to recognize the election results (Democratic landslide) and chooses to leave under his own power, that is.
I know Conyers has talked shit but not done anything. The tone is definitely stronger than it has been, though, plus he did draw a line in the sand about Iran: attack=impeachment. Well that line was initially drawn by the guy I do believe in KUCINICH So I'm delighted to hear democrats echoing HIM. And the timing strikes me! Quote from above:
So let me explain: Well Kucinich was the crazy liberal democrat who actually wanted to impeach, and bring consequences. The rest of the Dems were afraid to do such things while courting votes for primaries. When Hillary was embarassed by her answer regarding Spitzer's driver's licenses for undocumented 'illegal immigrants', Hill Called Spitz and told him to quit it. (IF only she said that about something else) The point: Presidential hopefuls will impede the progress of all other politicians to make sure they don't have another thing to worry about. Hillary / Obama were never calling for impeachment, and probably never wanted to field a question about it. SO THE TIMING: There's no more debates, Obama has become the "presumptive..." all this Conyer's talk can be a rallying tool, and Hillary / Obama / whoever was in the race, will not have to address it.
If Harry Reid grows his balls back, then yes, there has been a cosmic shift. Great to hear Conyers talk like that. We need much more of that in both houses. I know I can count on Leahy, Boxer, and Feingold in the senate. But others need to join-in.
Anytime anyone from the Democratic party calls or emails for a donation I tell them that I'll donate when the party gets a spine. Wonder how many other folks have been doing anything similar and whether or not it has had an effect.
Yeah, well... I'll belive that when I see it. Too much bullshit from the "talk-big, do-nothing" Dems. To greet this with enthusiasm, you'd need to be awfully naive, and forget the last 200 things useless twats Reid/Pelosi didn't have the nerve to do.
I have to admit I do get a bit tired of The Democrat bashing. As spineless as they were, the public is just as responsible for this mess as the Government. As Phil Donahue has said, the public bought into this mess just as much as The Democrats, and those brave Representatives and Senators that opposed the war, many of them were booted from office by a scared fickle public.
The government is only as good as the people who elect it. We're at a zeitgeist, so let's stop throwing blame around and start showing some encouragement to the fact that for the first time in decades The Democratic Party may have a single unifying leader (Obama) who will end this god awful mess of division within our own party.
Conyers won't do shit. He's full of it just like worthless Pelosi. I mean what kind of photos does BushCo have of these two ? to keep them from DOING THEIR JOB they suck period, full of hot air...go write another letter Conyers *yawn* and we'll wait for do nothing Nancy to tell us "impeachment is off the table" blah blah blah
if only.
far too little, way too late
barbab @ 103:
I have been doing it for some time. Whether it has any effect or not I may never know, but I think we have to stay in our own integrity and not support the "lesser of two evils", just because they call themselves "democrats".
Uh, right, John.
More tough talk, followed by no action.
Don't convict any of these criminals before Bush is out. He would just pardon the whole lot of them.
Who cares Conyers - get Bush - remember him? The police will get Rove when he chats up little boys online.
Tyler Durden @ 12:
Dear Douche Bag,
I would never, EVAH, click on a link from a paid Rovian Troll. I'll do my own background researches. Maybe some of you repukes should do the same.
Rove's background shows some deeply disturbing issues that he's never dealth with. The man is a misanthrope, and a ticking timebomb.
Oh, and did I mention that you are a shit-the-bed douchy??? Now run off and change your David Vitter Diapers.
Pat J @ 76:
SHUT UP..............LIKE BILL O'FULLOFLIES??? Big deal, americkans who watch foxsnooze consider that a natrual form of intelligent discourse...........so, it's really a non-issue.
barbab @ 103:
I have been doing the same thing. So far, we seem to be getting the same old same old. I don't think we'll get different until we rid the party of the incumbent Milquetoasts.
Otay @ 54:
Doh! I meant incumbent Milquetoasts. But recumbent works well too...
Speaking as a Stephen Colbert Republican:
This is absolutely Wrong! Ladies and Gentlemen, we can't ask people who served in the white house to testify against their own kind. It's like asking apples to testify against oranges about which one makes the better fruit. And if we start down this slope, who knows how slippery it may become. And you know when you have people like Mark Foley and Larry Craig in your party, anything involving sticky and slippery can get just that much worse.
No folks, we need to stop this whole testifying business right in its tracks. Congress is there to balance the powers of the president, not to override them once the decision at the top's been made. Just like the republican party has show for the last 7 years, when the president and his mean men make a decision, Congress should appear in lock step with whatever they come up with. Just pull out the old rubber stamp, press it in the ink and mark a huge red elephant on whatever runs down through the partisan pipeline. And yes, sometimes it may be sewage flowing down it, but we can all rest safe in knowing that it probably passed through Alberto Gonzalez butthole, thereby purifying even the most tainted crap with department of justice purification.
And that's the WERD!
Have him arrested!
FBush @ 9:
Totally agree. Unfortunatley half of the Dem's suffer from the same maledy as the repuglicans -- the disease of political opportunism. Kerry was the worst of them. Not an ounce of courage or honor in any of them.
I pray to god that Conyers shines a big fat spot light on that vile reptile Rove's ass and that his previous bosses abandon him!!
Master Po @ 65:
Yeh, I <3 that quote. On a serious note, I find these proceedings to be unappealing. I mean, the people in power could have done this a long time ago! why didn't they? ppl have speculated on this ad nauseum. Now the better question is "why are they doing it now?" I tend to think more because of personal ass-savings than a sense of new-found confidence. Not only have democrats won a few political footsteps and nominations, etc. but they have also started to see grass-roots efforts to remove the chickenshits from their seats! (like Pelosi, etc).
Wexler has been trying to do something about this forever, and this dude Conyers is just now saying '-someone's- gotta kick his ass' like nobody thought of this before?! Also, has anyone else noticed (semi-related tangent) that Chris Matthews is starting to behave like a real democratic pundit lately? he's actually calling people out? I say this is the election year early-changeovers of cowards who want to keep their jobs. I say do what they do to us... support them by strong-arming them into doing what We the People want, then DUMP THEM for people who will do what We the People want after the elections are over, without begging, gagging, and fighting for it.
I'm sick of this political game... it's like a cocky jock playin with his hoochiez! Starve them for attention, strike a pose that gets 'em goin', pull out at the last minute, and repeat until their panties are ready to explode for the slightest bit of positive attention; then watch the jocks claim godhood because the poor sappy lovestruck fools got scraps off their tables of romance... rinse, and repeat. skepticism doesn't even begin to define the bile I have for these weaklings. Hold no loyalty to any of the ones currently in office. they have not served your interests, they serve their own.. right now, that means temporarily considering -your- interests until they are safe for 2 more years.
we as a society need to be wise as serpents, and to develop a long-term memory for failures. no more starving for real news from TV, stop watching them all (find it yourself, talk to your neighbors, read!). No more supporting people who pander, but instead use them for their inadvertent good and toss them out like ripped tissues. These people are not your friends, even if they share the party you like; they are tools of the republic, start using them instead of them using YOU.
all that said, at least it shows some hope... dare We trust in it?
Throw his ass in some boiling water and if he floats, it prooves he is a warlock and a chicken shit war hawk.
Don't give me this "Why are they doing it now? Maybe things have changed" rubbish.
They're NOT DOING ANYTHING NOW!!!
It's STILL all just TALK!
Useless verbose windbaggery from sacks so empty, you could keep pyjamas in them.
john, you missed the point - you and I are agreeing, there. they pose and do nothing; they are playing press dress-up, pretending to serve our interests to keep their jobs...
Bravo. Someone needs to get this slimey bastard out of the public square. Where there is smoke there is fire. His name comes up way too often not to be involved in something.
99 @ 73:
Well I guess you don't now! I can certainly see the wisdom of that logic if a comment is going to be more than a line or two, but, sheesh, for six words? [PUT UP OR SHUT UP, CONYERS!] Thanks for the clue anyway.
Conyers is a bloviator. He is all talk and frankly I am sick of him. He makes all of these threats to act but never does. It's past time for someone with a spine to do something about the criminals in this administration. Pelosi has no spine and is another traitor to her party and the people of the country. Something needs to happen and somebody, anybody with an ounce of courage needs to step up to the plate and do their Constitutional duties.
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