In 2000, McCain admits he'd be too old to run in 2008
By John Amato Thursday May 22, 2008 8:30am
As McCain gets ready to release his medical records in a very limited fashion today, I've come across a clip back on 08/01/2000. He's being interviewed by Jim Lehrer on News Hour and admits that he'd be too old to run in 2008.
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Lehrer: Finally for the record, you have not lost your desire to be President of the United States have you?
McCain: Certainly it's been put in deep cold storage. haha..
Lehrer: You haven't lost it?
McCain: Well, in 2004, I expect to be campaigning for the reelection of President George W. Bush, and by 2008, I think I might be ready to go down to the old soldiers home and await the cavalry charge there.
Nobody can complain if age comes up anymore since the candidate has made it an issue as far back as 2000 all by himself. Americans polled are sure worried about it anyway...
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Trust me, McDementia won't remember saying that.
He's older than my dad. And Obama's younger than my sister. I think I'd rather have someone my sister's age running the country than someone my dad's age. But that's just me.
Isn't senility wonderful? Who knows.. maybe in 2012 he will forget he ran for president in 2008.
Unfortunately, we have a precedence of a demented President (Reagan) running the country, so McCain will not be the first one. But I still hope that he won't reach the White House.
I miss old John...He was such a rebel and now he's just...sad
Does McCain have even one point he hasn't flipped on?
This man's campaign is already done for.
"I love McCain, he such a maverick. Critics say he's too old to be president, so what does McCain do? He keeps aging !"
-S. Colbert-
The guy sold his soul for the Bob Dole role in the 2008 election - up is down, left is right, top is bottom... nothing makes sense about him anymore but of course no one who only gets their news from the MSM will hear about it.
C&L needs to dedicate a special category : "McCain Flip Flop ALERT!"
Doug @ 9:
I'm starting to think the GOP is planning to win this election by courting the "little old man sympathy vote"
dj @ 2:
And Obama looks youthful and vigorous -- especially in this picture from yesterday in Boca Raton.
cobsjo @ 6:
He's still white.
only 31% comfortable, and thats a higher figure than just the committed
please somebodyhardcore GOPers,so some of them and some of the mil worshiping crowd are swooning at the prospect of McReaBo in the WH, so sad.
Not only is he eight years older, but his left jawline is bulging even more now than when he made that statement. While doctors say he is in good health, what's with the bulge? And should we also worry about his choice for vice?
I think I might be ready to go down to the old soldiers home and await the cavalry charge there.
He says "might". The disadvantages of age are hard to predict, and vary from person to person. He had to acknowledge that he might not up to running in 2008, but it turns out that he is up to it, so he's running.
I'm thinking that running for President might be a more intense experience than actually being President. A lot more travel, anyway.
I don't mean to be a McCain apologist because I really don't like the guy, but I don't think this is an actual flip-flop.
wow. i guess this is mccain himself saying his age is a legitimate issue now?
Did I understand it correctly that he only released his med records to a few journalist and they had only a limited amount of time to read them but they could not take any notes? Is this true, or just a rumor.
As for his age, we don't have to talk about it, he shows it every day as he is all over the map regarding what he supports and what he doesn't. If a younger candidate did this they would have been run out of town a long time ago. His age is his firewall to protect him from attacks a younger person would have to deal with in any election.
...But I never do underestimate the stupidity of the American Public. I mean, we did elect a dexlexic, ex-coke head, idiotic, silver spoon fed man child... twice....
McOnefoot chooses a VP, or more precisely the GOP chooses the person they want as the POTUS in waiting for 09.
Have they chosen yet or told McCain who his running successor-to-be is ?
Jake S. @ 19:
No, no, no, that coundnt happen in reality, maybe in some worm ridden alt universe maybe...
You know, when someone hides or limits access to their personal data when running for a public office I have to start questioning their motives for doing it. The first question that comes to my mind is what does McCain not want people to see in those records? My imagination runs wild with the infinite number of possibilities.
McCain's age obviously is a big factor and as well it should be just as it should be with someone who is to youthful. Experience aside, add McCain's advanced age to those seemingly restricted medical records and one can probably guess that maybe McCain isn't as physically or mentally fit to hold that office as he has been letting on.
The video didn't play for me.
ferrofluid @ 21:
You probably should've stricken out the ex-coke head part, ferro. Obama would call that a cheap-shot. A low-class one.
pissed off patricia @ 18:
I woke up this morning to Dr. Gupta (spelling?) on CNN being interviewed by a broadcaster who said something along the lines of "call us back if you find something else interesting" in the apparently voluminous report.
Ayatohllah of Diet Cola @ 5:
Do rebels suppress POW/MIA Congressional committee hearings and witnesses, or enable mining companies to land grab and evict people from their ancestral lands, or be involved in S&L guttings and the resultant coverups?
dennis @ 24:
true, no evidence of the ex part, if going by the last seven years is taken into consideration.
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I only have one question and mean no disrespect but why does the side of his face swell up and then a month or two later you see him and it has been drained? The only reason I know of for draining is if the cancer is still active. I don't trust the medical report at all. I have been around people with cancer when it has to be drained, so his face problem is cause for concern and as far as I can tell in his medical report it is not even mentioned. What does anyone think about that ?
There's a post up at Kos about McCain dancing around on his attitude toward FISA and telecom immunity.
Damn dude, take one position on something and stick with it for at least a week.
ferrofluid @ 27:
You think Obama is still using?
Jamie LaSarte @ 29:
I think I'm feeling a little queasy just thinking about what you asked.
Ageism I see is alive and well here. Reagan was a dunce before he ever got old. I know older people, one in her 90s, who could probably eat everyone's ass for lunch in a debate. Yes, age is a predictor of senility, but it is not a guarantee. However, a history of irrational temper tantrums is another matter all together. Let's hope he picks a decent Veep but he will be your next-next president in about three years.
Dennis, don't quit your day job -- the comedy routine isn't working.
Damn, he looked a whole lot healthier back then. He looks TERRIBLE now, kind of like an animated corpse that needs to be started with jumper cables each morning.
They'll keep feeding him the scripted one liners to compensate. I think people find it hard to believe that a person being funny is lacking faculties. Worked for Reagan...to a point.
Dr. Acula @ 34:
Amazing how the roving trolling GOPers can even compare a successful lawyer/ politician like Obama, with the AWOler partying ADHD presiChimp who destroyed every company he came into contact with.
Hey Dennis does the RNC pay you by the post or are you on the clock?
Talk about an INCONVENIENT truth!
But REALLY John McCain is NOT too old for the Presidency.
bubba @ 36:
President Reagan as long as he had his 9am to 4pm naps was a wonderful POTUS, trouble was the VP at time.
dennis @ 31:
You can always tell when Repub operatives have NOTHING. They resort to trivial innuendo devoid of substance that matters like gas prices, foreclosures, health care, War, etc. And by the way Dennis, given up on polling?
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not!! @ 38:
they pay them in jelly beans and part credits for escape planes tickets for 09
I think the Repuglian fondness for jelly beans and the possible risk of CJD from the gelatin pretty much explains their whacked out behavior.
GOP the party of the mad cow mooers.
Pretty sure I heard McCain telling Obama:
"hey you kid....GET OFF OF MY LAWN!!"
ferrofluid @ 37:
Reich-wingers have no standards. That's why lowlifes like princess would be stupid enough to defend McBush and herr dubyah.
Nowonmai @ 3:
Will he remember what a presahdent is?
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not!! @ 38:
princess also claims "moral superiority" because she claims to have "a life" consisting of a life partner and children and weekend golf.
pissed off patricia @ 32:
The cancer will reappear the same way it hit Ted Kennedy. Melanoma ALWAYS comes back. It's just a matter of time.
New onset seizure in an elderly man is brain cancer (in McCain's case metastasis) in 50% of cases.
Bob Marley had it in his frikkin TOE and it metsed to his brain.
Dr. (Bitter Hussein) Matt @ 45:
Just like the Rethugs have defunded the Dept of Ag so badly, so that now we will be getting no pesticide report usage in the USA.
Open season on US consumers and pesticide poisoning, all the for the pittance of a mere $8 million a year for the surveys, a paltry 2.7c per head per year.
Chuck U @ 23:
reality doesnt play for most Republicans
ferrofluid @ 21:
Sigh...that'd be us.
Left&Left @ 41:
McCain joking in 2000 about going down to the old soldier's home in 2008 instead of running for President is trivial innuendo, Left². But don't let me stop you from pretending it's a serious issue once again.
Che's Lounge @ 48:
I knew there was a reason I like wearing steel toe capped boots, aprt from not getting my toes crushed.
Sun blocker on the generally forgotten toes would be a good idea when wearing sandals then.
princess @ 52:
Since when do reich-wingers know anything about serious issues? You are the losers that obsess over flag pins, middle names, and bowling scores. Keep pretending you care about America. It's clear you do not.
KYJurisDoctor @ 39:
Sure he is, have you seen his many flubs? He's losing his bearings.
Off subject:
John, you need to post that video of Pete DeFazio on the House floor chastizing the Administration and the Pentagon (and singled out Cheney) over the propaganda program. He compares it to the program used by the Soviet Empire in the 1950s (why our law was passed). He was quite angry.
America will realize how unstable and unfit McBush will be when he faces off with Obama during the debates. Obama will mop the stage with the ragged, angry shell-of-an-old-man. It's going to be embarrassing for the reich-wing.
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Long ago when I first began writing for a site on the internet, I got an email from a gentleman criticizing something I had written. I wrote back to him and thanked him for his for his constructive criticism. We became distant close friends via emails. Sometimes we would exchange two or three per day. I knew each morning when I woke up my computer there would be a good morning email from him waiting for me. He was an incredible man and he taught me so much about music, art and literature. This man was 82 years old and I would put him up against anyone at a debate.
Sadly he fell a few years ago and like so many elderly people that fall led to complications. His daughter called me and we kept in touch throughout his illness. He passed away a couple of years ago and I cried more then than when my father died. I still have and love the cd's he burned for me and sent to me one Christmas. They are all his favorite singers and bands.
He was the best friend I never met or talked to. Being elderly surely does not mean someone has lost it, but they had to have it from the beginning.
bill DOH @ 57:
The *.mov file works.
He looks like utter shit now by comparison. Not that he was doing any high kicks back then either.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to discover he's got some chronic illness they're trying to keep hidden.
The cheney shrub co. regime doesn't give a damn if their puppet has one foot in the grave. They'll just set someone up in the vp position ready to step in and keep on killing should mcstain be unable to bomb what they need him to.
Dr. (Bitter Hussein) Matt @ 54:
The GOP are soulless heartless money grubbing monsters, anything for a quick buck and to hell with everybody else,
they are quite happy with us and our children and their children being poisoned by unscrupulous farmers or stupid crop sprayers.
One commentator said that we will only find out now about pesticide by "accidental" reports, ie when consumers are poisoned and die, or suffer acute affects, or some time in the future when chronic effects are noticed.
ferrofluid @ 61:
And the myth that the reich-wing cares about the troops have been debunked. Graham (R): If Republicans Vote Against The 21st Century GI Bill, ‘We Will Get Rewarded In The Next Election’
dennis @ 52:
It is a serious issue, there's no denying it. Ronald Reagan is all the example you need. His Alzheimer's disease was setting in while he was still in office and look at the damage his presidency did to our country. McCain's age is important and it's fair game.
another log cabin plagiarizing (somebody elses bill) Republican, whowouldhavethunkit
Sofa King @ 63:
But it gave Bush41 three terms of power and laid the ground for Bush43, a 'success' for the Bushco crime family.
ferrofluid @ 65:
Our gov orgs are infested by xtians / fundies and various org crime types, its pretty bad these days.
The republicans will use McCain plans to put another Bush in as VP, and then grandpa will get sick. Welcome back another Bush term with a real
genuine Bush. Nobody can Bush like a real Bush!
Underground Pirate @ 67:
Big Memorial Day pow-wow with McMormon, Charlie Crist, The Huckster, others at the McBush AZ ranch this weekend to select the VP candidate this weekend. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Jeb crashes the party.
It is a serious issue, there’s no denying it. Ronald Reagan is all the example you need. His Alzheimer’s disease was setting in while he was still in office and look at the damage his presidency did to our country. McCain’s age is important and it’s fair game.
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Every presidency does damage to the country, depending on which partisan side one is sitting on.
McCain's age is fair game as is Obama's wife's political comments.
He must have forgotten this by now. I love reading articles in Crooks & Liars, but please add Youtube videos instead, it will be easy for many of us. Thanks.
The mainstream media has this insatiable desire to keep this election relevant, and what better way to do that than to ignore all of McCains gaffes and blunders. When all is said and done, Obama will mop the floor with him come election day.
cobsjo @ 6:
Blondes?
Underground Pirate @ 67:
If McSame puts a "Bush" on the ticket, then he will only get votes from immediate family members and a few of his "friends" and that's IT.
Ron.j @ 69:
what political comments ?
Anyone that works with older people sees the signs of confusion and forgetfulness in McCain. It is typical of many people his age. It is not a problem for most people, but it is a problem for a President. He is simply not mentally sharp enough for such a high pressure demanding position.
Speaking just for myself - I don't support McCain but it has zero to do with his age. If anything I like at his age as a BENEFIT over Barack Obama's youth. Yes, I am serious.
I don't support McCain because of his stances on Iraq, Bush tax cuts etc. not because he is old.
Backtrack Express! Next stop! Flipflop Junction!
McBush is too old. But more importantly. He's too dangerous.
Age itself isn't necessarily the issues, but if it involves inability to grasp the issues, then it is. Despite cheerleading the war for years, he didn't know the difference between a Shiite and Sunni, (although lately, I see he has picked that up), he doesn't have a grasp of the economic issues, which means he's likely to leave the details to subordinates. Since he's delegating the foreign policy to the neocons, which has Lieberman slobbering over him, and promises more borrow and spend, which is contributing to the devaluation of the dollar, people really got to ask, do we want, and can we afford 4 more years of Bush?
As far as health is concerned, McCain's proposal is to tax employer paid health insurance as imputed income. I don't know about you, but that's money out of my pocket.
In addition to his age, here is another reason not to vote for the damned fool. As reported on CNN.
McCain supports enacting legislation to expand education benefits for veterans, but he, as well as President Bush and much of the military brass, oppose this specific measure because they worry it will deplete retention rates among those currently serving in the military at a time when recruitment efforts are already struggling.
Wow, I guess McCain, Bush and the military brass haven't heard about Donny Rumsfeld's 'stop-loss' order yet.
Hey! I thought age didn't matter. Like those summer sandals-flip flops.
pissed off patricia @ 58:
that is very true, people have to have compassion and humanity from the start, silver spooned napalming Republicans generally dont have it,
and thirty years living it up as a fortunate son (on our taxpayer monies) squeezes the last humanity out of of them.
The Maladroit Express has gone off the track.
Ohhhh, the humanity...
Convenient. He's recently reduced his forecast for Iraq troop withdrawal from 100 years to 5... And, ta daaaaaaaahhhhhh, that will be just in time for his successor to have to make new promises regarding our involvement in Bushes war... For those of you who just can't stand the thought of a black man being President I ask this... Just home many kids (both American and Iraqi) are you willing to sacrifice and how many more billions of dollars of taxpayer money are you willing to waste to satisfy your prejudice? The time for a change is truly upon us... McCain ain't the guy to lead us in the new direction we so desperately need.
Ron.j @ 69:
Though after months of the Clintons being asses, I do have to ask who you think got damaged during the Clinton years. The working class seemed to like it pretty well. The WATBs of the right-wing didn't get every little whim they wanted but I'm struggling to understand how that constituted damage.
oz9 @ 33:
The republican brand is in the toilet, as most pundits agree. Mccain will not win. Democrats are strong, well financed, and are poised for a come back. You should keep up with the news.
Chico Hussein @ 73:
The Bushes are done politically. I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked off to another country entirely . . . if it wasn't for the fact that literally no one on the planet earth doesn't know who they are anymore, and aside from a dead-ender 28% of Americans virtually ALL of those people despise the Bushes and think they are imbeciles, parasites, and worse.
All he's saying is, he's going to campaign in old folks' homes in Virginia, and wait for a civil war re-enactment.
These different versions of McCain are confusing me !!!!
If he teams up with Mittens, it will be the ultimate FlipFlop Express.
71 is not old these days per se, but McW is an old 71. 5 years as a POW has taken a toll on the man.
To be honest, John McCain looks good for his age. He doesn't look like a worn out old man like Bush Sr. and Reagan did. It's likely a ton of makeup and facial injections, but just saying.
Forget his age. Ron Paul is 72 and he doesn't commit this many gaffs (Lobbyist-gate, Hagee-gate).
I wonder if McCain's family medical history includes senility. Because damn sure is showing up now.
It is a serious issue, there’s no denying it. Ronald Reagan is all the example you need. His Alzheimer’s disease was setting in while he was still in office and look at the damage his presidency did to our country. McCain’s age is important and it’s fair game.
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Every presidency does damage to the country, depending on which partisan side one is sitting on.
McCain’s age is fair game as is Obama’s wife’s political comments.
Though after months of the Clintons being asses, I do have to ask who you think got damaged during the Clinton years. The working class seemed to like it pretty well. The WATBs of the right-wing didn’t get every little whim they wanted but I’m struggling to understand how that constituted damage.
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The final dismantling of Glass Steagall occured when Clinton was president. Banking fraud followed. clinton signed the bill that allowed it to happen. So you see, every president has caused damage to the country, whether it is apparent at the time or not. Partisans just choose to see what they want to see, republican or democrat.
The working class loves a boom, until, as all booms do, they end in a bust. Everybody loves Coolidge and hates Hoover. Why? A bust is part of a boom. Always has been, always will be.
The 1920's boom was built on an an easy credit policy, as was the 1990's boom. Debt default follows. That default would have occured during the stock market crash of 2000-2002, except that Greenspan dropped rates further to cause a debt fueled housing bubble. With that bubble burst, debt is defaulting. The stock and housing bubbles were both part of the same credit bubble. The Clinton/Bush Jr. years are part of the same credit bubble.
The next president is likely going to have deal with the worst of the fallout from that bubble, which began in 1995, when the credit fueled stock market began jumping into a stage of irrational exuberance.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Oh this is CLASSIC!!!
he is SO toast.
I guess everyone here can now breathe a sigh of relief. I'd like to take this opportunity to say that the well-intentioned concerns for this long-term US Senator's health have been duly noted.
APNewsBreak: McCain appears cancer-free, healthy
"I think physiologically he is considerably younger than his chronologic age based on his cardiovascular fitness," Eckstein said in an interview Thursday. "I got a call from the cardiologist who said that he had not seen anyone that age exercise for that long in a long time."
Now let's all keep our fingers crossed that when Obama decides to release his medical records that his smoking and drug history pose no health concerns for him, so that now these two fine gentlemen can go about debating the real issues facing this country.
Oh geez, back off everyone. I'm not a McCain supporter, but if the guy feels good, don't attack him for that.
Who of us knows how we will feel in 8 years? Lighten up.
Remember how it felt when everyone attacked John Kerry over his 3 purple hearts? It sucked.
There is enough to attack McCain on -- policy-position-wise.
Don't get personal, it may backfire!
dennis @ 95:
Dennis, the health of Obama v McVeryOld is a comparison you really don't want to go anywhere near. But I do understand why you don't want to touch real issues.
he is just old enough to forget that he is running for president ????????or is gov of arizona!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Obama campaign needs to get hold of this video and put it in a 30-second ad.
Anyone who watched his NH speech saw his performance. On MSNBC they were laughing about how addled he appeared. It was a spectacle.
Sinfonian @ 12:
Hey, thanks for the great picture of Barack!! I especially LOVE the new lapel pin he's wearing with U.S. and ISRAELI flags. REALLY nice touch!!!
Abbybwood @ 102:
Wow. That is so astute. Now tell me how much you pay per gallon of gas in that hick town you come from.
Chuck U @ 23:
me either
Hey, Dennis, do you know anyone who was feeling fine and had a great heart, when they found out they had terminal cancer? I have, it happens a lot. Just because you feel good doesn't mean there isn't something rotten happening elsewhere. Our veterinarian was feeling great - she even ran the Boston Marathon - until she found out she had pancreatic cancer. I know countless similar stories. So don't get sucked into that "I feel great!" horseshit.
And don't forget, all those check-ups, surgeries, lab tests, x-rays, drugs, and evaluations were paid for by taxpayers like you and me.
The best hope for a woman to be president in the next four years is if the Republicans pick Lieberman for VP. That way Nancy Pelosi has a very real chance when the two sick looking old men do what comes naturally when you are old and sick.
Right. He is still planning on doing that.
McCain has absolutely no plans to be president. Actually, he has about as much plans as Bob Dole.
Y'know how the idiot masses ate up Kerry's "voted for it before I voted against it" or whatever video? This video here, McCain just tossing in a throwaway line which in reality doesn't matter much at all, could be used in exactly the same way. I don't think the progressive side is shameless enough to use this tactic, though, and I don't know if I'm glad or not. It would be effective, but it would be cheap.
Wow -- it doesn't sound like progressives really buy into that diversity thing when you toss age into the equation.
Hey, I'm four years older than McWhatshisname and I ain't ready for the scrap heap. Everyone is different. Oh, yes. Did I mention I would rather vote for a crazed monkey with Alsheimers than JMc?.
sergeant chuckles @ 110:
If Reagan exhibited his Alzheimer's symptoms at around the same age, I think it's pretty safe to say that there's nothing progressive (emphasis on PROGRESS) in appointing an old man (sorry, but it's true) to the highest office in the land.
If McCain should possibly win (gasp!) in 2008, then bring on the apocolypse..
The real thing which really worries me is how careless/cavalier, yet subtly determined he seems to be coming across in this election season.
It's as if he honestly believes it's locked in already.
you're all a bunch of flaming liberals. whether dirty politics or not, the nice guys alway fail. Mccain -Huckabee- 08.
Don't worry: he's younger now. Peace is war.
How is this news? He's flipped his position on everything else, why not this too?
Ahhh I don't like anything about the guy but he doesnt say, what you claim he says at all.
I will recorgnize Clod War ,OK McCain
May be better to ask Putin?
Dr. (Bitter Hussein) Matt @ 54:
The fact that Republican McCain is even given a chance to win the 2008 presidential election tells us much about the state of the electorate. What has transpired under the Bush/Cheney/Republican Congress these past 7+ years makes it impossible for any informed thinking American to even consider more of the same and yet some do. Only total self-centered greed and hatred of others can make such a vote possible. There seems to be no other explanation unless total ignorance is the explanation.
ron,ny @ 120:
Just think of how history will explain the ruination of the USA. Just think of how it will be explained that the greatest nation in the world could be ruined by so few in such a short period of time.
"The 1920's boom was built on an an easy credit policy, as was the 1990's boom. Debt default follows. That default would have occured during the stock market crash of 2000-2002, except that Greenspan dropped rates further to cause a debt fueled housing bubble. With that bubble burst, debt is defaulting. The stock and housing bubbles were both part of the same credit bubble. The Clinton/Bush Jr. years are part of the same credit bubble.
The next president is likely going to have deal with the worst of the fallout from that bubble,"
But Greenspan's plan could have worked much better, and the inevitable collapse nowhere near as bad,
1.If the anti-terror/safety measures put on borders/planes/etc. had been used only for their intended purpose, instead of being used to target social activists and businesses competing with companies connected to people in positions of authority. The restrictions might not have been so bad, but when people who were so obviously not terrorists were found to be on "no-fly" list many people here in Canada who border hop decided it wasn't worth the trouble anymore.
2.If so much money hadn't been spent on the Drug/Iraq/Afghanistan wars;
a.if the wars hadn't been fought at all but also,;
b.if the Bush administration hadn't fourwalled so many of the war related contracts in order to give them to companies closely connected to himself and members of his administration, which they will of course be re-joining shortly which means THEY WIN EVEN THOUGH AMERICA LOST.
3.If any side of the house in congress, any single member of the Bush administration or any major news network had ever, for one minute,
a.actually cared about the best interests of the American people and
b.discussed the economy in a factual way instead of always using references to the economy as part of some hollow false argument to pass a bill that will improve the economy for the rich while making it hell for the poor.
"...by 2008, I think I might be ready to go down to the old soldiers home and await the cavalry charge there."
I will be more than happy to boost him onto his horse, open the gate and shoo him along.
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