If apologies matter, that's a pretty good one.

Yes, Liz, "many of us" are making mistakes, alright. So, of course since "many of us" are making mistakes during this "colorful" political season, that tempers your responsibility. Nice qualifier, you twit.

Bull + Shit = another insincere reich-wingnut "apology"

Call me krazy.....but I think it was scripted. Fox are dirty players but what really gets me is that there are people who believe there b.s. They are so over the top...regardless of what party you belong to. I guess if they reported the truth no one would watch......okay I get it.

Try making a lame attempt at humour the next time you check in for a flight Liz, and using something like 'bomb in my luggage' or 'blow up the plane' in it. I'm sure everyone will get a big chuckle over you trying to apologise for THAT one.

Sheesh

This is an effective tactic, the "toothpaste out of the tube, the bell has rung" theory. Say what you want to make your point, then retract/apologize. The tactic always works, the damage always done. Apologies are cynical/meaningless. This is not the last assassination "joke" we will be hearing.

I still say "FIRE THAT BEE-OTCH"!!

I'm sure she actually is mortified if for no other reason that this kind of thing can kill careers. It's a real apology at least, not one of those 'if I offended some overly sensitive pearl clutches, I guess I should apologize' apologies.

It aint a REAL apology today until she invokes Jesus, the 'Lord and some kind of personal praying session she held with God. Til then it's just "Ooops, i got caught, sooooo sorry. til next time.....heheheheheheh."

Can the ol' whore.

She is an award-winning professional journalist and has no excuse for the several mistakes and unintentional body-language in her "joke" yesterday.

First of all, she should never fumble Senator Obama's name. That's just incredibly unprofessional and inexcusable for a woman of her calibre.

Second, her smirk, tilt of the head and tone when she said, "or both of them," yesterday was extremely telling. It was authentic, unscripted, gut-level honest. It's how she really feels, period.

Third, she should have apologized not only for her (b.s.) "lame" attempt at humor (and it's not funny on any comedy scale), but for screwing up Senator Obama's name, for giving longer legs to a despicable story (Sen Clinton's ugly remarks that set this off) and for furthering the dialogue.

If she had any class, she would have commented that the entire premise of the Clinton argument was flawed, tacky, irresponsible and beneath the dignity of any thoughtful person.

But, no, she had to pile on. Her apology is not only insincere, it's not even apologizing for the right things.

F-- her, F--- Faux Noise, F--- Hillary, and anyone else who justifies this atrocious garbage or dares to blame the victim, as the Clinton camp is now doing.

We should not stand for it.

The problem is that right wingers have developed an unseemly habit of making nasty inappropriate comments that they just can't help themselves. Perhaps Americans are finally starting to become repulsed by their offensive and inflammatory rhetoric so right wing nut jobs are finally being forced to apologize.

At least Obama is getting something from her. Why couldn't Hillary just say she was sorry and move on. Instead she tries to explain it away, then she blames the media, now she's blaming Obama. When will it stop?????

Yeah her apology was a good one. Pity Hillary's couldn't have been as good.

I'm not that familiar with her or her work. It was a stupid thing to say, but it's good she apologized.

And yet we are still waiting months for Brian Kilmeade to apologize for his "lets go do car bombings" and "they should be tasered" comments on Faux

Unfortunately all an apology does at this point is draw more attention back to the original remark. Mission accomplished.

Sounds like an elitist snob being forced to apologize. The only thing missing was she wasn't holding her nose as she was being forced to read the script. But I'm sure her fingers were crossed.

Wuzup Hussein Dawk @ 33:

uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 21:

that was the most condescending apology i have ever heard...some of you people are listening to her words and not her tone of voice

i hope the [Deleted. Site Monitor] gets [Deleted] by a bunch of rabid badgers...and i wont apologize for that statement

she has no buisiness being an analyst for anything...

Yes, condescending was the word that immediately came to my mind. The apology is hollow and sounded trite.

On the other hand, she, like Hillary, said something in the heat of the moment and I don't for one minute believe she wished Obama dead like she wished Osama dead. Sometimes you equate a true feeling --- like say you don't like Democrats --- with something more serious.

HRC said it 'in the heat of the moment' four or five times over several months...

"It’s a very colorful political season and many of us are making mistakes and saying things we wish we hadn’t said."

Would she accept such an excuse were it given by a tree-hugging America-hater? What if Hillary herself said it? This is as phony an apology as they get.

Wishing a presidential candidate dead is an attempt at humor? Yeah, its as funny as playing "Dead Kennedys' songs the day that Ted Kennedy's diagnosis and prognosis became public. Proof positive that John Stuart Mill was right, nearly 200 years ago, when he said "While its not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. If Imus lost his job for non-murderous-but-idiotic "joke" . . .

Martunez @ 37:

"It’s a very colorful political season and many of us are making mistakes and saying things we wish we hadn’t said."

Would she accept such an excuse were it given by a tree-hugging America-hater? What if Hillary herself said it? This is as phony an apology as they get.

Any left leaning Libural who makes such a comment about a RW politician would be investigated by the FBI and harassed to the point of suicide or some such accident, or find their name and address passed onto reichwing hate websites with the resulting events that would follow.

I hope for the sake of 'fair and balanced' both Liz Trotta and Brian Kilmeade are both on the TSA 'no fly' lists now for their terroristic comments.
But of course they wont be, those lists are only for furreigners and domestic dissidents of the ruling regime.

DoctorRoberts@24: Being objective, and not like some, Hillary and her camp has
reason to be concerned about Obama's campaign headquarters jumping into the
fray as to her "June 1968 comment about RFK". Go to:

www.thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/25-clinton-defends-rfk-remarks/i...

and you will find that his camp admits that they immediately put on erroreous
information about what she said. So, not only the media, but Obama's camp
is almost equally as responsible(irresponsible) for disseminating false information.

Yea right. She was just joking. And every moron on FoxNooz who mistakes Osama and Obama do it by mistake. Bunch of liars!

Don't buy it.

These people are fascists. Racists. Sexists. Ageists. All of the bad "ists." And, yes, elitist -- though they try to pin that tag on intelligent people such as Barack Obama. Hey, it's McCain who has the multiple palatial residences, not Barack.

Money and power are all that matter to them. If you're not among their ruling caste, get the hell out of the way.

DoctorRoberts@24: Being objective, and not like some, Hillary and her camp has
reason to be concerned about Obama's campaign headquarters jumping into the
fray as to her "June 1968 comment about RFK". Go to:

www.thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/25-clinton-defends-rfk-remarks/i...

and you will find that his camp admits that they immediately put on erroreous
information about what she said. So, not only the media, but Obama's camp
is almost equally as responsible(irresponsible) for disseminating false information.

Sorry, the NYTimes website did not come through, but you can go to the NYT
Blog website(Caucus) for Monday, May 26, 2008, at 12:35PM and find the article
I attempted to reference above..

"Heat of the moment"?

Hell, get a portable fan. Wear it around your neck and then edit yourself.

Excuses, excuses.

Getting a Republican to apologize for anything is extremely difficult, so I have to commend Ms. Trotta for her gesture.

"Good for her"? Maybe. I tend to think that when people say things like "I apologize to anybody I’ve offended," it's because they're sorry they got caught, more than anything else.

Of course, Hannity and Limbaugh say crap like this every day, and no one makes them apologize for anything...

she managed to get his name right this time.

Wuzup Hussein Dawk @ 33:

uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 21:

that was the most condescending apology i have ever heard...some of you people are listening to her words and not her tone of voice

i hope the [Deleted. Site Monitor] gets [Deleted] by a bunch of rabid badgers...and i wont apologize for that statement

she has no buisiness being an analyst for anything...

Yes, condescending was the word that immediately came to my mind. The apology is hollow and sounded trite.

On the other hand, she, like Hillary, said something in the heat of the moment and I don't for one minute believe she wished Obama dead like she wished Osama dead. Sometimes you equate a true feeling --- like say you don't like Democrats --- with something more serious.

Anyone remember the film 12 Angry Men? "I'll kill you" doesn't always mean "I'll kill you", does it?

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt to that extent, although I agree she has proven herself unfit to be a responsible commentator --- even on a network brim full of irresponsible commentators.

without the hyperbole, lets analyze what she said before we make the assumption of it being said in "the heat of the battle"

first, she mixed up osama and obama.....

we now know that this is not a mistake...it has been done time and time again to remind voters how much obama sounds like osama and to push the allegations that obama is a muslim and/or is not truly american....and its working...i have friends and relatives who insist he is a muslim and repeat his name over and over

then she chuckled as she mumbled "i wish we could do them both"...there was no heat here...she wasnt being pounded with questions...she was sitting calmly and what came out of her mouth was on her mind

she is not sorry

this is the tact that we will see throughout the general....

so the godly huckabee, queen hillary and now this hack have all alluded to the assasination of a sitting senator and presumptive presidential nominee

in the 60s, this wouldve gotten you the swift boot, and ended your career

now we have to understand that people make mistakes?

im having none of that

and thank you monitor for making people play match game with my original statement...you really should just delete the entire offending line, cuz now they will be putting in a ton of madlibs

Wuzup Hussein Dawk @ 54:

ferrofluid @ 36:
HRC said it 'in the heat of the moment' four or five times over several months...

I should have been more clear. I said

...she, like Hillary, said something in the heat of the moment...

Liz Trotta said she wished Obama dead. HRC did not say anything like that. Many are assuming she wishes it, but she did not say it.

'assassination' is a poison pill word in US politics, HRC should have known this otherwise she isnt fit to be POTUS.
Too many good polticians have been silenced by lone nut assasins.
Couple this with her Indiana 'sniper rifle' Obama attack mailer from late April early May, what the hell are we going to think about RFk comments and Obama mentioned in the same breathe.

Dogiebobo @60

Still no luck and I went to the Caucus site with no luck. Can you tell me headline of the blog post so I'm not trying to read them all? I didn't find anything otherwise that related to what you were trying to say and I went back a couple days.

Is apologizing for something you wish you hadn't said the same as apologizing for something you didn't mean? I'm sure she wishes she hadn't said it but behind her words, how does she really feel? Also, combined with the Huckabee thing (the Clinton gaff was an anomaly) could there be some odd strategy here? I dunno. It's just creepy and I hate to have to put my baloney-ometer on full power all the time.

I'm sure she is said she said what she truly feels. I hope as I do for the shrub and shooter that they have a long life of public humiliation.

Victorian Squid @ 67:

Is apologizing for something you wish you hadn't said the same as apologizing for something you didn't mean? I'm sure she wishes she hadn't said it but behind her words, how does she really feel? Also, combined with the Huckabee thing (the Clinton gaff was an anomaly) could there be some odd strategy here? I dunno. It's just creepy and I hate to have to put my baloney-ometer on full power all the time.

Correct, 'ooops I said it' isnt the same as "I am sorry, it was a mistake to say it and I didnt mean it"

So being stupid is neither construed as a threat or a malicious statement, and some "regrettable" soundbite makes everything okay?

I dont think so. She should not be allowed on FOX.

I wrote a lot on C&L telling you all ,"Demand that she apologize!" and saying it wouldn't come and if it did - it would be insincere etc. She did a darn good job of apologizing so I think we can let her off the hook, but that video still exists. Liz Trotta is not a politician. Good enough apology. I guess a good follow up question to her apology would have been - "You insinuated ,as a joke, that Obama's being "knocked off" would be good. OK, you say it was a joke. Would you have made the same joke about McCain? Why not?"

Trotta:

I sincerely regret it and apologize to anybody I’ve offended.

Translation:

I'm sorry some people are offended about assassination jokes. I sincerely regret that the rabble and riffraff don't have a sense of humor about their own being taken out.

I'm sorry if I don't accept this "apology". I'm sorry she doesn't really regret anything other than the blowback.

Y'know someone ought to test this on Fox and observe what happens. What if somone deliberately went on Fox now that this has happened and said something like... "well if we wanted to take out McCain so bad why didn't we...excuse me Hussein...well, hey, either one, why didn't we just assassinate him..." It paints a rather different picture.

As about sincere as fox "news" and as far as " everybody making mistakes " lol ya , Everybody accidentally makes comments about whacking a politician . No Trotta , you are NOT sincere , you just reveal what you clowns probably joke about in the back rooms . Secondly , she knows DAMN well its ILLEGAL to make threats like that , so why would she so casually make such an absurd comment or joke on national TV . WHY , because that level of joking is exceptable with the deviants she runs with , immature , say anything and do anything to win republicans .

Blue Lensman @ 66:

uncle joe:

nibbled to death?

lol

Doggiebobo @ 76:

LunaStick@65:
Here is what the top of the page says:

"The Caucus"
"The New York Times Poliical Blog"

"Clinton Defends R.F.K. Remarks"
by Katharine Q. Seelye

Starting w/the 9th para and continuing for about 5 paragraphs, there is discussion
about how the Obama campaign erroreously reported what Hillary said.

Hope this helps...

from the NYT caucas

Privately, aides to Mr. Obama were furious at the remark, particularly because his safety is a particularly sensitive issue. He was the first presidential candidate to receive Secret Service protection more than a year ago because of specific threats, none of which were disclosed.

Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, which has refrained from engaging Mrs. Clinton in recent days, called Senator Clinton’s statement “unfortunate and has no place in this campaign.”

OMFG how they attack poor innocent Hillary, the horror.

biyatch

"Apology" unacceptable, racist cow. Those words slipped out far too easily for them not to have been on your lips every day at the bar.

What a lame apology!

...let's see within the span of a week:

Obama ducking gunfire - Huckabee

"assassination" could be a factor in changing the inevitable nomination of Obama - Clinton

Osama...Obama, one in the same to me...kill'em - Trotta

Suggesting something?

M Sat @ 91:

Calling for assassination of political figures is beyond the pale for a member of the "press". Apology is necessary, but insufficient. Frankly she should be finding a new profession and having the Secret Service tap her phones and investigate her internet records for the next few years.

and of course she is now on the TSA 'no fly' list

Doesn't this seem all too cute to be believed? Say something inflammatory, then oops, sorry never mind. These people get paid to talk, do they not? They must surely know what they are saying, as they say it, at all times. It's rather like an attorney asking the witness an inflammatory question, opposing counsel objects, the judge sustains but the impression is left in the minds of the jury. So between HRC and the right suggesting that Obama's going to get hit if elected there is that seed now planted in the minds of the electorate - "if I vote for Obama he won't see the end of his first term."

Presumably she gets paid. What difference does it make whether she is a FAUX employee or just a contractor? She should not be employed as a pundit/expert or whatever type of whore she is.
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Wuzup Hussein Dawk Says: btw: for all those who want to “fire the whore”, Liz Trotta is only a contributor, not a Fox employee.

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Steve @ 89:

Alot of you need to let this go. She apologized and it seemed like she meant it. Her original comment should at the very least get her suspended but alot of people commenting on this entry are showing exactly why some get called "the looney left".

She's obviously lost [to steal from Obama I believe] some of her bearings as has most of Fox (back to being as bad as their Bill Clinton days).

Seems fine to move on from this one.

No one is stopping you. Show us how it's done. Move on.

I'm soooo tired of these day after "Boy,was I drunk last night!" apologies...she is what she is....f**k 'er.

http://www.tagg-theangrygayguy.com

"If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find."

This is more GOP racist "dog-whistle" rhetoric.
--"It’s a very colorful political season..."--

"Colorful", as opposed to "white, pasty, GOP" political season.

@91....it is pretty strange that these comments all occurred in a peculiar sequence and short-time span. no ct thoughts just interested in the correlation between subliminal messaging and fake news reporting.

Stu Piddy (message # 105 above). YOU SHOULD APOLOGIZE NOW !! Crooks and Liars is not a conservative website ! Websites like C&L are doing a great service to us ! If everyone were as irrational as you -we'd have many more wars. I trust Liz Trotta more than you ! My advice : read some　 of the calmer, more balanced posts on C&L and other websites in order to learn how to communicate with reason. If you do that -your life and relationships will improve a lot too !

Apology accepted, but we will NOT forget, and we will be keeping an eye on you and the rest of your racist buddies.

lj @ 101:

Imus was suspended and then fired for a dumb, throw in comment uttered at 6 am or so. He apologized again and again, and met with the Rutgers players who with a few exceptions moved on. If Imus wasn't pardoned why is Fox trying to slide this through? What is human life to these folks?

imus was never fired for the comments...imus was fired because advertisers abandoned him

imus is an old racist fool...has been for years...when he wasnt an old racist fool, he was a young racist fool

ferrofluid @ 93:

Steve @ 89:

Alot of you need to let this go. She apologized and it seemed like she meant it. Her original comment should at the very least get her suspended but alot of people commenting on this entry are showing exactly why some get called "the looney left".

She's obviously lost [to steal from Obama I believe] some of her bearings as has most of Fox (back to being as bad as their Bill Clinton days).

Seems fine to move on from this one.

thank you

Ditto.

I'm very disappointed in several of the blatantly misogynistic comments on this thread, several from commenters I recognize as regulars who should know better. I hope they are deleted shortly. I don't care what anyone said there's no excuse for that kind of vitriol here or anywhere. If you ever made such a comment your parents raised you wrong.

She should be fired anyway. Hate speech and murder mongering have no place on the public airwaves, plain and simple. Otherwise it will just go on and on with some other vicious idiot doing it tomorrow.

Charlie @ 107:

This is more GOP racist "dog-whistle" rhetoric.
--"It’s a very colorful political season..."--

"Colorful", as opposed to "white, pasty, GOP" political season.

If the Democrats just wouldn't run these "colorful" candidates and instead run white, pasty, know-nothing, GOP-like candidates, then these GOP 'pundits' wouldn't have to make these sorts of verbal, KKK wet dream, "mistakes".

The three great all-purpose excuses:

1. I was taken out of context

2. You're too easily offended

3. It was a joke

terrofluid@116: You seem to be missing my point. First I am NO Hillary supporter.
Second: The only point I was attempting to make is the one I was trying to make
in No. 106 above. And, I certainly did not imply that Obama's camp made "horrific
and offending remarks"; just that they jumped before they had the facts as to what Hillary actually said.

Doggiebobo @ 125:

terrofluid@116: You seem to be missing my point. First I am NO Hillary supporter.
Second: The only point I was attempting to make is the one I was trying to make
in No. 106 above. And, I certainly did not imply that Obama's camp made "horrific
and offending remarks"; just that they jumped before they had the facts as to what Hillary actually said.

and is that a 'crime' comparable to what HRC said 4 four or five times over several months !!!!

does anyone remember when baldwin went on conan and made his remarks that henry hyde should be taken out of his house and stoned?

did the wingnuts accept his apology and move on?

and that was an obvious joke

and he isnt a political pundit

Oh, I got a bit heated and I apologize so all is forgiven. Whoopsy!

Bullshit.

Folks, if Obama gets the nomination, expect more fascists to hint at killing him. In fact, they may even try. The threat of a RFK scenario is more real than people think.

The hard-core right wing of this country (like their Nazi forefathers) have too much to lose and will resort to violence if it means protecting their agenda and ideology.

uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 115:

lj @ 101:

Imus was suspended and then fired for a dumb, throw in comment uttered at 6 am or so. He apologized again and again, and met with the Rutgers players who with a few exceptions moved on. If Imus wasn't pardoned why is Fox trying to slide this through? What is human life to these folks?

imus was never fired for the comments...imus was fired because advertisers abandoned him

imus is an old racist fool...has been for years...when he wasnt an old racist fool, he was a young racist fool

The focus was on the level of the sin. I didn't say clearly enough that Imus lost his job for something much less harmful than condoning what she did and providing a sanction for some crazy person to feel that it could be his mission to do harm. Will Fox, or yes, advertisers take any action against her? Clearer now?

Don't be a dillweed #134 Bill.

ferrofluid @ 122:

justabill @ 117:

ferrofluid @ 93:

Steve @ 89:

thank you

Ditto.

I'm very disappointed in several of the blatantly misogynistic comments on this thread, several from commenters I recognize as regulars who should know better. I hope they are deleted shortly. I don't care what anyone said there's no excuse for that kind of vitriol here or anywhere. If you ever made such a comment your parents raised you wrong.

here we go, HRC shill doing the 'poor sexist attacks on HRC' again and again and again.
its a worn out record, no amount of tears, sniffles and faux apologies negates the horror of assassination inferences.
what she and the Faux bimbo did is beyond the pale for Democrats and even scrapes the barrel for the RW.

I most certainly am no HRC shill. I voted for Obama once already and will do so again in Nov. I dislike all bigots equally, that includes racists, homophobes, and misogynists.

(and anyone who uses the word "bimbo" is one of the above)

Let's keep count how many wingnuts joke about Obama being killed.

- Huckabee
- Trotta

And there will be many, many others.

That said, why couldn't Hillary apologize to Obama? She's that bitter, huh?

ferrofluid (angry) @ 140:

when the MSM stops using 'bimbos' to pad out their TV, then its time to stop using the descriptive word to describe them as such

and they can be of either sex, its not strictly a female reference.

Didn't buy it. That was dripping with sarcasm.

"Yes, I am so sorry about what happened yesterday"

(I'm not taking the blame for any of it, but, yes, yes, something unpleasant did happen yesterday and you can bet your ass I am sorry about that)

"..and the lame attempt at humor."

(The humor that lives independently inside my own body that comes springing forth from my mouth completely of it's own free will without any help or input from me is what you should be angry with)

"I really just fell all over myself in making it appear that I wished Barack Obama harm."

(I'm just so innocently clutzy and charmingly inarticulate - and mistakes were made that somehow made it appear as if I were wishing death upon a sitting United States Senator)

"or any other candidate, for that matter."

(Osama bin Laden is on the Democratic ticket, right?)

"And I sincerely regret it"

(And by "it" I mean that thing that happened yesterday that I had absolutely no control over)

"and apologize to anybody that I have offended."

(But not directly to anyone, and certainly not to the guy who was talked about being assassinated as if it would be good for the country, or to his wife, or to his two young daughters.)

It is a very colorful political season,

(Oooh shit! I shouldn't have said colorful, I shouldn't have said colorful Jesus CHRISTon the cross WHY did I say "colorful"?!)

and many of us are making mistakes and saying things we wish we had not said.

(Come on, folks - I can't be the only person in the entire world who's gone on cable news and said she wished a presidential candidate would be assassinated! Can I? Huh? Hey! Look! Over there! A Monkey!)

Bill Hemmer: "Clarification Noted. Thank ya, Liz!"
(duuuh...Hey! Wow! A monkey! Cool! I will love him and pet him and call him Herbert and he will be my friend...)

Sorry and guilty of threatening harm on a Presidential candidate is still a crime.
She can be sorry and unemployed.

Where is the FCC hue and cry for fines? Saying the F-word or showing a pasty call for $1,000,000 fines- stating a wish for violence and murder of a Senator deserve something especially harsh against both the individual and the network.

I do believe HilRod was not thinking when she made her gaffe- this was something very different. This is the very essence of yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater. If this act goes unpunished then we are nothing more than a fascist country and this whole election cycle is a farce.

.

"I'm sorry I can't produce unoffensive jokes...?"

"The political season is 'COLORFUL' and therefore forgive me for my lack of taste."

So,
Why is she apologising again?
Does she even have a clue?
Does she even care?

.

How do you "apologize" for soliticiting a murder? It's not exactly burping in public or passing wind. It's a crime and it should be responded to as a crime. There are limits to freedom of the press. The freedom cannot cover committing a crime and what she did was a crime.

Fox, of course, is home to slimy characters but I don't think even Rush Limbaugh, who is not big on intellect or graciousness, would be that stupid and that nasty. She needs to be taken off the air and sent packing or, at the very least, suspended without pay until November. This is ugly and frightening stuff.