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Scott McClellan's new book is causing the media's heads to explode as well as Bush Co. since they were almost part of his cabinet at the time. Eric Boehlert wrote a very important column on the cold shoulder they gave Ted Kennedy's very important anti-Iraq war speech back in 2002. The one that was ignored. I posted a prime example of the TV pundit class' mentality called "Dan Abrams Wankery from 12/02/02 on Iraq." Read the transcript and vomit. Where's his public apology? I hope to see one soon.

Back to Boehlert:

Specifically, back in September 2002, with the Bush administration and much of the Beltway media rushing to embrace war with Iraq, Kennedy delivered a passionate, provocative, and newsworthy speech raising all sorts of doubts about a possible invasion. Unlike today, the political press wasn't very interested in Kennedy or what he had to say about the most pressing issue facing the nation. Back in that media environment, being the voice of American liberals didn't mean much.

That night on NBC's Nightly News, just 32 words from the Kennedy address were excerpted. On ABC's World News Tonight, it was 31 words. And on the CBS Evening News, 40 words. In all three instances, the brief mention of the Kennedy speech was part of a larger report on the looming possibility of war. Meaning, on none of the networks did Kennedy's speech qualify as a stand-alone news even

The Kennedy coverage in the major newspapers wasn't much better. At The Washington Post, Kennedy's newsworthy speech, a clarion call against Bush's pre-emptive war, garnered exactly one sentence -- 36 words total in coverage. Keep in mind, during 2002, the Post published more than 1,000 articles and columns about Iraq, nearly 1 million words. But the Post set aside just 36 words for Kennedy's farsighted war speech...read on

And of course there's : “War Made Easy”: How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death

War Made Easy reaches into the Orwellian memory hole to expose a 50-year pattern of government deception and media spin that has dragged the United States into one war after another from Vietnam to Iraq. Narrated by actor and activist Sean Penn, the film exhumes remarkable archival footage of official distortion and exaggeration from LBJ to George W. Bush, revealing in stunning detail how the American news media have uncritically disseminated the pro-war messages of successive presidential administrations.

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Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Just another example of why we dems should not be over confident going into the general election season.

One reason I believe Ari f. & friends are screaming about this "non story" is that Scotty must have hit them where it hurt. Not the war policy, not plame, not the lies, but the Koolaid Dispenser.

They must protect the propaganda machine at all costs. And they must prove to themselves it's still working in their favor.

Yep, I quit watching most MSM at that time due to the war "coverage" that covered the cheerleading for the war but none of the contrary point of view. Though it got zero press, over 10,000 people marched in Austin around that time, I was one of them. I still refuse to watch CNN, (Beck, Dobbs, Nancy Grace), and FAUX "News" of course, (everybody there) but I had been watching MSNBC recently. Olberman is mostly spot on and Gregory was less annoying than most others. Until he said how very tough he was on the war cheerleaders. He was even angry at the accusation and said that he "tries not to be defensive about it" but immediately launched into one of the most defensive, (and innaccurate), tirades about how very able and competent the MSM was, is and always will be. Until people like that admit their complicity, they will never recover theor credibility. MSM sources moan and whine and wring their hands and wonder why people are abandoning them for the internets. Well MSM, speaking just for myself, I can answer in one word: "Accuracy" You have none and don't seem inclined to recover it any time soon. I don't watch you, read you, listen to you, (or your advertisers), because if I want to hear bullshit, I'll hang out in a redneck bar during happy hour. In the meantime, when I want accurate and credible news, I'll trun to where I know I'll get it. From those dirty fucking hippies in the reality based community of that awful Liberal blogosphere.

How great would it feel to be an American if Scott initiated a flood of tell alls and an examination of how the media is/was an utter failure in informing the public, and how the White House lies as part of official policy.

Listening to an old clip from this site of Helen Thomas confronting Perino about torture. She is perfectly emblematic of the lying White House, shameless, smiling, and schooled in the art of denial

I remember Sen. Kennedy was dismissed as being "unpatriotic" after that speech. The Senator was also the first political leader to call the occupation in Iraq a "quagmire". Sen. Kennedy was and is a true leader, unafraid of popular backlash from the powerful. The conservative wacko's hate him because he is waaay smarter than they are so they keep bringing up the tragic Mary Jo Kopchene death as a desperate last resort "trump card".

dosido @ 4:

One reason I believe Ari f. & friends are screaming about this "non story" is that Scotty must have hit them where it hurt. Not the war policy, not plame, not the lies, but the Koolaid Dispenser.

They must protect the propaganda machine at all costs. And they must prove to themselves it's still working in their favor.

bingo, boingo!

dosido @ 4:

One reason I believe Ari f. & friends are screaming about this "non story" is that Scotty must have hit them where it hurt. Not the war policy, not plame, not the lies, but the Koolaid Dispenser.

They must protect the propaganda machine at all costs. And they must prove to themselves it's still working in their favor.

Ari is deep into some pro-war propagandists that job is to sell the war through interviews with vets and commercials praising the war, he never left his position as an official liar for the war

Russert, Russert, Russert! I'm still waiting to hear Russert apologize for his pre-war coverage. On Meet the Press, Russert created an atmosphere in which anything less than enthusiasm for war was unacceptable.

Recall --

* Dick Cheney made a crucial pre-war appearance announcing in tandem with Judith Miller's articile that Saddam had WMD (an assertion that went unchallenged by Russert).
* Condi Rice, Rumsfeld appeared numerous times to gin up the race to war.
* Do you recall Russert's commentaries that "Bush will make us safe" and his dismissal of Democratic critics.

I note that David Gregory has been vociferous in attacking McClellan. God forbid that McClellan should point out that Gregory was a constant straight man for Bush's call to war. It has been somewhat of a circuitous journey, but McClellan has spoken the truth, and the NBC folks won't tolerate it.

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Obama's problem? Hey asshole, Obama didn't say or do shit....just like the last time. You desperate searching for cockroach manure losers never sleep. Obama '08. Learn to like it!

BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Appeasement Bullshit @ 8:

dosido @ 4:

One reason I believe Ari f. & friends are screaming about this "non story" is that Scotty must have hit them where it hurt. Not the war policy, not plame, not the lies, but the Koolaid Dispenser.

They must protect the propaganda machine at all costs. And they must prove to themselves it's still working in their favor.

bingo, boingo!

Allow me to add that receiving "special treatment" from the Bush Cabal, I'm looking at you David Brooks, is like being proud to be a friend of OJ's.

"Here, sell some more of my lies". Good grief. Whatever happened to professional distance? The MSM really failed our democracy, big time.

Screw the right-wing MSM. They're so far up Bush's ass, they play catch with his polyps. They're ALL as guilty as the 3-headed monster of Cheney/Rummy/Bush.

Whatever their reason was for being Bush's lapdogs since Day-ONE has not changed one bit.

The blogosphere is the only hope left for this country to avoid full blown fascism.

Freaking pandering and mindless cheerleading and for what??? There was no logical reason to just accept all the p.r. war mongering spin... All the bullshit, when there was, in fact, voices in the wilderness trying to say 'wait a minute' ... Kennedy wasn't the only one but it doesn't matter now.. All these voices were ignored or downplayed... I guess the big prize was the big ol comfy chair, the most favored press position or some such shit at the daily liars convention... Also euphmeistically referred to previously as the presidential daily briefing for wh reporters...

You press people were all just a bunch of shallow suckups to a person... To that charge, the entire MSM is G.U.I.L.T.Y..... Guilty as the day is long... And now???? It's comin back to bite you ALL right in the ASS..... Hope you fools still enjoy your carreers since you have totally undermined your credibility giving Chimpy, figuratively speaking, blowjobs for eight freakin years!!! ...Fuckin losers!!!! JD

PS -- It would be great if CrooksandLiars would dig up some of the golden oldies of Russert, Gregory, et al that demonstrate, not only their unquestioning support of Bush prior to the war, but their cheer leading for Bush.

Thank you for reminding everyone what a tool Dan Abrams was. The only reason he's flipped sides now is because just like Scotty, charlatans always know which way the wind is blowing.

Left&Left @ 11:

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Obama's problem? Hey asshole, Obama didn't say or do shit....just like the last time. You desperate searching for cockroach manure losers never sleep. Obama '08. Learn to like it!

Oh L2, must you fall into that trap every time? (jk)

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Lame you are.

Left&Left @ 11:

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Obama's problem? Hey asshole, Obama didn't say or do shit....just like the last time. You desperate searching for cockroach manure losers never sleep. Obama '08. Learn to like it!

If Obama's biggest "problem" is the pastor stuff, McSame's ass whooping will be much worse than even Murdoch predicts !!!

jon @ 10:

Russert, Russert, Russert!
(snip)

I note that David Gregory has been vociferous in attacking McClellan. God forbid that McClellan should point out that Gregory was a constant straight man for Bush's call to war. It has been somewhat of a circuitous journey, but McClellan has spoken the truth, and the NBC folks won't tolerate it.

Russert! UGH!

David Gregory. I didn't know who he was until I saw him "dancing" with KC Rove. Told me all I needed to know. I cannot stand the way he does his little schoolboy peek from under his bangs at the camera thing. Grow up!

Charlie Gibson: "I think I'm awesome!"

Thank God for Crooks & Liars.

jon @ 10:

Russert, Russert, Russert! I'm still waiting to hear Russert apologize for his pre-war coverage. On Meet the Press, Russert created an atmosphere in which anything less than enthusiasm for war was unacceptable.

Don't hold your breath, jon - we need every vote!

Off topic, but did anybody see Wanton Boy's juvenile, cringe-inducing, utterly inappropriate "body slam" at the Air Force graduation? Almost deserves its own topic here at C&L. What a contrast to Obama's dignified statesmanlike presence at Wesleyan. All Dumbya needed was a kegger, a turntable and some rolling papers. No decorum, no gravitas. Just an overgrown frat boy whose shoe size is larger than his IQ. What a pathetic loser. Amazing that he was allowed to steal the presidency twice.

Saw it, turned of the computer and threw up a little.

jon @ 15:

PS -- It would be great if CrooksandLiars would dig up some of the golden oldies of Russert, Gregory, et al that demonstrate, not only their unquestioning support of Bush prior to the war, but their cheer leading for Bush.

Glenn Greenwald came up with some brilliant and oh so telling questions and commentary from Gregory, Gibson and others from that time that showed EXACTLY what kind of coverage they were providing. A Russert montage would be equally brilliant, though undoubtedly very, very long.

jon @ 15:

PS -- It would be great if CrooksandLiars would dig up some of the golden oldies of Russert, Gregory, et al that demonstrate, not only their unquestioning support of Bush prior to the war, but their cheer leading for Bush.

great idea! I think they've started to a little bit (or maybe it was FDL)

How about a Public Tribunal for the Bush Press?

D.G. Bowman @ 22:

Off topic, but did anybody see Wanton Boy's juvenile, cringe-inducing, utterly inappropriate "body slam" at the Air Force graduation? Almost deserves its own topic here at C&L. What a contrast to Obama's dignified statesmanlike presence at Wesleyan. All Dumbya needed was a kegger, a turntable and some rolling papers. No decorum, no gravitas. Just an overgrown frat boy whose shoe size is larger than his IQ. What a pathetic loser. Amazing that he was allowed to steal the presidency twice.

But...he gave up golf!

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Personally, I think it's a rather non-issue and I'm a white person from Arkansas.

Besides Obama didn't personally didn't seek this guy's support (that I know of).

all the paint and varnish needs to be stripped off of the msm. bring back regulation. the fairness doctrine. checks and balances.

you know, all the stuff the republicans think are bad.

Blue Lensman @ 17:

Left&Left @ 11:

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Obama's problem? Hey asshole, Obama didn't say or do shit....just like the last time. You desperate searching for cockroach manure losers never sleep. Obama '08. Learn to like it!

Oh L2, must you fall into that trap every time? (jk)

Respectfully, you well may be right, I don't know. John Kerry consistently took the high road with these people too. I'll guard the fence, thank you.

hopefully stewart and colbert will dig up the golden oldies from the ass kissers in the msm. they're probably working on it right now for next weeks shows. btw, i've been saying since day 1 that gregory was nothing more than a plant for the adm.

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Be honest. The race card is all people like you have left. If not for perceived racial elements, what else do you and like minded fools have?

Amazing how they seem to forget how they ignored and marginalized anyone against the war.

Journalists think now is the time to rewrite history and put themselves in a better light.

Bring back the fairness doctrine.

If this war had been justified in the eyes of the American people from the beginning, War Pretzedent Georg W. Bush's approval ratings would be in the high 90's and he would not need to trot out every few days to a staged press conference to try and convice us yet again that it was justified.

If all things had been equal 'cept Bush was a Democrat instead of a Rethug, would he have lasted beyond June 2003 ?

there is is this repetion oh the "we ALL got it wrong on wmd"

which is total BS.

remember the dismissive attitude to the large protests around the world. AMY GOODMAN did not get it wrong.

when they throw themsleves into the phoney stew, they think it diludes them of their responsibility. people should be FIRED.
people like glenn beck and bill O. didn't just get it wrong........
they willfully dismissed REASON and beat it down soviet style.

A lot of people claim The White House's current cabal and media heads are exploding.

In reality, their sphincters are imploding.

Even Sen. Nancy “off the table” Pelosi finally admits the Iraq war was a lie, before during and after the fact,

sooooooooo why isnt she upholding her oath of office, and why is she putting (not relevant to her legally binding oath) party politics before the country.

Then you have that pathetic and treasonous appeaser logic of not upsetting the pretend statquo relations between Congress and the Whitehouse !!!!!

Its time to unleash the poodles of congress and impeach Bush and Cheney.

Party politics does not exist in the Constitution, its a imposed artificial affair, real only to working day to day politics and cleric stuff.

The Articles and the Amendments are the meat and bones of US law, every elected office holder has the prime duty to uphold this or be recalled or impeached.

We finally have proof and a person in the form of Scott McClellan that describes the illegal actions and deeds of Bush Cheney and other top politicians

and various staffers, just needs McClellan to be dragged before an investigatory Congressional committee to swear on oath what he has said via his book.

Theres more than enough smoke now to impeach Bush and Cheney and hold them under arrest for investigation and before the trial proper.

Nancy admitted this Wednesday, two days ago.

''This war is a big lie. It was a lie to begin with..and it continues to be a lie..at some point, maybe the lies just got to be too heavy for him to carry,'' she said of the former White House spokesman.

Nancy on 05/28/08 to SFGate part of the San Francisco Chronicle

I remember helping my wingnut at the library during the run up to Bush's Endless Folly. He was preparing for a "book group" but didn't know how to use the toobz. He wanted articles about "just war". So I do a search. Then I ask him if he wants any articles offering another point of view for balance. He shut me down before I finished asking. NO!

typical.

Shame on Abrams. He should do the right thing and man up. He should have Mike Farrell on and apolagize to his face.
But I won't be holding my breath because the it appears the MSM is just as arrogent as the White House. Birds of a feather.
It's all so sad. This used to be a great country.

Chico Hussein @ 19:

Left&Left @ 11:

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Obama's problem? Hey asshole, Obama didn't say or do shit....just like the last time. You desperate searching for cockroach manure losers never sleep. Obama '08. Learn to like it!

If Obama's biggest "problem" is the pastor stuff, McSame's ass whooping will be much worse than even Murdoch predicts !!!

assuming the McWalkingCorpse last long enough for November, must take a lot of DarthV like oxygen bubble rests between photo ops.

carefulwiththatAXEeugene @ 34:

there is is this repetion oh the "we ALL got it wrong on wmd"

which is total BS.

remember the dismissive attitude to the large protests around the world. AMY GOODMAN did not get it wrong.

when they throw themsleves into the phoney stew, they think it diludes them of their responsibility. people should be FIRED.
people like glenn beck and bill O. didn't just get it wrong........
they willfully dismissed REASON and beat it down soviet style.

Reality has a nasty habit of creeping up on people and asserting itself, makes the wingnuts look rather pathetic and small.

Left&Left @ 11:

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Obama's problem? Hey asshole, Obama didn't say or do shit....just like the last time. You desperate searching for cockroach manure losers never sleep. Obama '08. Learn to like it!

Another fine example of an over confident Obama supporter. The hate that flies out of your mouths is stunning. You forget that this is only the Primary and not the general election. Not only do I listen to what Obama has to say but I also read what his supporters think. Your viscous attacks on Hilary supporters is going to push people away from voting Obama in november. I'm on the fence about Obama because of his lack of experience. What you guys write makes it harder to support him.

Crooks and Liar's reference to Norman Solomon's War Made Easy is extremely relevant to the whole Scott McClellan issue, since the film shines the spotlight on how the government has, for at least the past fifty years, lied to the American people concerning the reasons why it was and is [supposedly] necessary to go to war. Even more egregiously, as the film point out, is the media's role in not challenging the government's casus belli in sending American troops needlessly into harm's way. It is also reminiscent of the documentary Fahrenheit 9/11, when Katie Couric proclaimed on the air, without the least hint of objectivity, that, during the illegal invasion of Iraq, "Navy Seals rock!" Apparently just another instance where critical journalism takes a back seat to knee jerk patriotism and flag waving.

www.wanttoknow.info/warisaracket

the more things change..... the more they stay the same:

Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933 by General Smedley Butler, USMC

"War is just a racket. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty-three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

Left&Left @ 31:

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Be honest. The race card is all people like you have left. If not for perceived racial elements, what else do you and like minded fools have?

I thought he was just being satirical. Bud, please say you were just being satirical.

Bud @ 41:

Left&Left @ 11:

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Obama's problem? Hey asshole, Obama didn't say or do shit....just like the last time. You desperate searching for cockroach manure losers never sleep. Obama '08. Learn to like it!

Another fine example of an over confident Obama supporter. The hate that flies out of your mouths is stunning. You forget that this is only the Primary and not the general election. Not only do I listen to what Obama has to say but I also read what his supporters think. Your viscous attacks on Hilary supporters is going to push people away from voting Obama in november. I'm on the fence about Obama because of his lack of experience. What you guys write makes it harder to support him.

Oh, so now you're "on the fence" about Obama ? Well, at least we're getting thru to you.

:)

Even if EVERY SINGLE Hillary supporter votes for McSame, he will STILL get his ass handed to him.

And the same could be said if Hillary wins the nomination and Obama supporters go with the old guy.

Bud @ 41:

Left&Left @ 11:

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Obama's problem? Hey asshole, Obama didn't say or do shit....just like the last time. You desperate searching for cockroach manure losers never sleep. Obama '08. Learn to like it!

Another fine example of an over confident Obama supporter. The hate that flies out of your mouths is stunning. You forget that this is only the Primary and not the general election. Not only do I listen to what Obama has to say but I also read what his supporters think. Your viscous attacks on Hilary supporters is going to push people away from voting Obama in november. I'm on the fence about Obama because of his lack of experience. What you guys write makes it harder to support him.

Take a long look in the mirror and pay attention to what flies out of your pie hole hypocrite. People like you(and Hillary disciples) say whatever you want no matter how mean or UNTRUE, but when we strike back with equal force, then you want cry foul. No acceptance of any culpability. Your deflecting bullshit doesn't work anymore.

Big E @ 43:

www.wanttoknow.info/warisaracket

the more things change..... the more they stay the same:

Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933 by General Smedley Butler, USMC

"War is just a racket. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty-three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912

ah the some of the origins of the Bush crime family, they have a long history.

I missed that Dan Abrams piece the first time around. Thanks for revisiting it.

Jesus, I get sick when I think of what could have been had only the people warning against attacking Iraq given equal air time.

I, for one, NEVER bought it.

Big E @ 43:

www.wanttoknow.info/warisaracket

the more things change..... the more they stay the same:

Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933 by General Smedley Butler, USMC

"War is just a racket. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty-three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

Excellent citation from former Brigadier General Smedley Butler. What particularly stood out to me were the lines that read:

"Like all members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left military service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups."

Butler's observations [as well as my own when I was in the military] simply confirm how extremely easy it is to go along with the program. All the more reason to hold in very high regard people like Lt. Watada, who has refused to deploy to Iraq because he recognizes that the occupation is illegal and immoral and Camilo Mejia and Kevin Benderman, who refused to take part in that occupation and were thrown in jail for their beliefs. It also confirms how much more courageous it is to question illegal orders than it is to simply obey them.

I was against the war/occupation when Bush first proposed it. I was sure they were lying about their reasons to invade Iraq. They seemed to be in too big a rush to invade, not wanting to wait for any assistance from our allies. I did not trust them.

And not to make excuses for the MSM but if you remember at that time the Bush administration was making it very difficult for anyone to be "against the war." They would not tolerate anyone who dissented, calling them unpatriotic. I can imagine that there were some MSM that had their doubts but to give up their careers and be labeled unpatriotic, probably forever, was too high a price to pay. (ie Dan Rather) Rove and Bush knew exactly what buttons to push. So many people went along with their story rather than be blackballed for life. I can remember how I felt, being cautious in talking even to friends and relatives at the time. Kept my feelings to myself rather than make life difficult. Cowardly? Yes.

Bud @ 41:

Left&Left @ 11:

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Obama's problem? Hey asshole, Obama didn't say or do shit....just like the last time. You desperate searching for cockroach manure losers never sleep. Obama '08. Learn to like it!

Another fine example of an over confident Obama supporter. The hate that flies out of your mouths is stunning. You forget that this is only the Primary and not the general election. Not only do I listen to what Obama has to say but I also read what his supporters think. Your viscous attacks on Hilary supporters is going to push people away from voting Obama in november. I'm on the fence about Obama because of his lack of experience. What you guys write makes it harder to support him.

And yes I am confident. I'm confident because I think that the American people see that McWar is an old, dishonest, pandering, Bush apprentice, lobbyist salad tossing, war and death loving, example of what's wrong with our nation. Sure, some people will bolt and vote for four additional years of misery, but not enough to win for Crazy Johnny.

Left&Left @ 46:

Take a long look in the mirror and pay attention to what flies out of your pie hole hypocrite. People like you(and Hillary disciples) say whatever you want no matter how mean or UNTRUE, but when we strike back with equal force, then you want cry foul. No acceptance of any culpability. Your deflecting bullshit doesn't work anymore.

Your acting like a complete asshole and defending hate-whitey rhetoric has little to do with striking back with equal force. When Obama loses you'll be even happier then than you are now; it's why you relish in turning would-be voters away. Obama apologizes and backtracks; you soldier on full speed ahead and pretend to act like it's just a stupid distraction. If you were so confident you wouldn't be here crowing.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of the ones in the audience cheering wildly at Trinity United when Pfleger did his embarrassing Rev. Wright imitation.

bert @ 38:

Shame on Abrams. He should do the right thing and man up. He should have Mike Farrell on and apolagize to his face.
But I won't be holding my breath because the it appears the MSM is just as arrogent as the White House. Birds of a feather.
It's all so sad. This used to be a great country.

In the past I have emailed Mike Farrell (and Helen Thomas, and Amy Goodman ) THEY ALL REPLIED think any Chickenhawk douchbag reporter/toady would do the same? uh uh...

Bud @ 2:

Odd that you're not talking about Obama's latest pastor problems. What's up with that? Trying to hide it under the carpet because "all those white people are crying too?" Lame

Clarification: This clown "Bud" is NOT me - just for the record...

Mike Farrell is a great guy and has written for C&L...Please keep this thread on topic...No primary stuff....I'm trying to dig up video of the press. I have footage in my archives since the end of 04 only. And I have a lot of videos to dig through..
I have a War Made Easy clip coming up

Dan Abrams
Born: 20-May-1966
Birthplace: Manhattan, NY
Gender: Male
Religion: Jewish

dennis @ 53:

Left&Left @ 46:

Take a long look in the mirror and pay attention to what flies out of your pie hole hypocrite. People like you(and Hillary disciples) say whatever you want no matter how mean or UNTRUE, but when we strike back with equal force, then you want cry foul. No acceptance of any culpability. Your deflecting bullshit doesn't work anymore.

Your acting like a complete asshole and defending hate-whitey rhetoric has little to do with striking back with equal force. When Obama loses you'll be even happier then than you are now; it's why you relish in turning would-be voters away. Obama apologizes and backtracks; you soldier on full speed ahead and pretend to act like it's just a stupid distraction. If you were so confident you wouldn't be here crowing.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of the ones in the audience cheering wildly at Trinity United when Pfleger did his embarrassing Rev. Wright imitation.

I defend Obama because he's done nothing wrong and has tried to keep race out of his campaign. It's people like you Dennis who have tried to back door this divisive shit on Obama's door step because he was winning big. You're used to having things your way and the fact that progressives aren't laying down(like Kerry in 2004) anymore pisses your sorry ass off. When you come here with facts I'll be silent. When you bring bullshit propaganda just to plant doubt because you're bitter because Hillary BLEW IT, I'll challenge you on it.

So Abrams did not have the foresight of a Mike Farrell or a number of others, but if that is the most egregious example of mindless cheerleading by Abrams then he is way ahead of the curve, relatively speaking.

Way ahead.

FA Smith @ 57:

Dan Abrams
Born: 20-May-1966
Birthplace: Manhattan, NY
Gender: Male
Religion: Jewish

We were born three days apart. To quote Johnny Carson: "I did not know that!"

How great would it feel to be an American if Scott initiated a flood of tell alls and an examination of how the media is/was an utter failure in informing the public, and how the White House lies as part of official policy.
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This is exactly what is going to happen! And, this is only the beginning!

You see, military generals earn close to $14.000 a month. Quite a few of these general officers were against the war from the minute they knew it was coming. But, remember, there is Honor, Country and Duty, that's a given. But more importan is, fuck all that! There is lots of money to be make. And they did, because more important than anything else is is the next promotion, kids must go to college, the house must be paid, and who knows? Probably a polical career shows up after retirement. That's what keep these from resigning. They sold their soul to the devil: Bush

So, if you are against what your leaders are planning, there is no way in hell that you're going to walk out of that kind of income plus all the perks (sex) that go along with it, like kissing ass to world leaders, travel, luxury, favors, etc, etc, etc.

Take for example the CNN military advisors. It nothing else than extra fucking income! Besides that, it makes them feel like they're still "in".

America, Democracy? Fuck all that. Those, (Janis Joplin), are only simple words for nothing else better to say. It all boils down to the amount of money they are able to earned. And for Bush administration it is the only thing they can offer. Money! Lot's of it. Pay attention to the people sorrounding Bush. They are all rich. And most of them brand new rich. Money "earned" in the last 6 years. Their loyalty is bundled up with money.

McClellan got simply fed up of being the laughing stock of America. Imagine, constantly lying to make look goods all those assholes in the White House. He knew, that the American public at large was on top with the truth. So, he simply got fed up of being being played like a Gambe Boy, and realized that he can really make money by telling the truth.

So, all these fucking idiots who are crying a river, that he should have resigned if he was feeling betrayed, are in the same predicament. Sooner of later they will say: "The only way to reinvidicate myself is writing a book". Because yes, there are more books coming. Maybe that take us via impeachment.

Then again. That might be too late. Bush will be living in Paraguay. However, remember former bishop Fernando Lugo, is the new President of Paraquay. He doesn't like Bush.

This shit is getting fucking interesting.

Bravisimo Scott!

I do have to give Dan Abrams credit though, because while he was egregiously wrong in 2002, he's making lots of headway for the side of truth now, especially with the Siegelman case. I have no sympathy for those in 2002 that did not take a stand against bushshit and went along with the popular crowd, but give credit where credit is due that he did not continue down that course into today, unlike some of his media co-horts (Matthews, Gregory, all Faux News). Abrams would boost his credibilty by leaps and bounds if he DID have Mike Farrell on and apologize on air. I think there's a possibility of that happening, but I'm not betting the house on it.

dennis @ 53:

Left&Left @ 46:

Take a long look in the mirror and pay attention to what flies out of your pie hole hypocrite. People like you(and Hillary disciples) say whatever you want no matter how mean or UNTRUE, but when we strike back with equal force, then you want cry foul. No acceptance of any culpability. Your deflecting bullshit doesn't work anymore.

Your acting like a complete asshole and defending hate-whitey rhetoric has little to do with striking back with equal force. When Obama loses you'll be even happier then than you are now; it's why you relish in turning would-be voters away. Obama apologizes and backtracks; you soldier on full speed ahead and pretend to act like it's just a stupid distraction. If you were so confident you wouldn't be here crowing.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of the ones in the audience cheering wildly at Trinity United when Pfleger did his embarrassing Rev. Wright imitation.

Clairification: I am from Chicago, but I don't go to church. I don't agree with everything Wright or Pfleger said but they, just Savage and O'Reilly on your side Dennis, have first Amendment rights. Your blind accusation of me enjoying the two Reverends "hate whitey" speeches proves my point about you and others race baiters...you keep falsely accusing Obama of indirect racism because you're desperate. The last act of Hillary's failed kitchen sink theory. That's all you got.

FA Smith @ 57:

Dan Abrams
Born: 20-May-1966
Birthplace: Manhattan, NY
Gender: Male
Religion: Jewish

And your point is what?

Ted Kennedy has been vindicated. The progressive blogs have been vindicated. The anti-war crowd has been vindicated. Now its time to make the other side pay at the polls for running our nation, military and budget into the ground for a senseless built on lies with no end in sight.

Ted Kennedy has been vindicated. The progressive blogs have been vindicated. The anti-war crowd has been vindicated. Now its time to make the other side pay at the polls for running our nation, military and budget into the ground for a senseless war built on lies with no end in sight.

I have a solution to the media's problem in finding the resources to actually do "investigative journalism" instead of parroting talking points and dutifully practicing stenography.

Take away the cocktail party invitations, take away the 10's of millions of dollars in salary given to the vapid empty-suit media stars like Gibson, Gregory, etc, and give the money to a team of actual journalists. Take away the job offers from the vacuous high-school Heathers.

And hire McClatchey to show the news team what journalism is.

Its funny isn't it--- the rest of the administration and the entire media apparatus are puzzled by Scott McClellan's revelations about the Bush Junta. The simple fact of the matter is that Scott has just answered the questions that were never asked by the very people who are charged with asking those questions to begin with except for Helen Thomas who showed them what real journalism is! They ignored Ted Kennedy just as they did everyone else that knew them to be the traitous murderers that they are and the media is complicit in their crimes. For them to now act like they are surprised at his actions are unbelievable and just trying to cover their own guilt in this horrendus and despicable situation that they helped happen. Your guilt will not be forgotten.

Almost all of these cable news gas bags were pro war int he run up to the invasion. Now they are slithering away from their sins.

……….It is unfair to castrate Mc Clellan for coming out. He deserve more credit than that. Granted he is Republican but he realizes he is an AMERICAN first. It's to tell the truth and nothing but the truth. That is the only way to redeem himself from being associated with those he (we) thought were patriotic but actually CRIMINALS. The complicity goes deeper than the public know it to be. (Powerful GOP and DEM politicians are in the mix). The threat of exposing the guilties are tremendous. The truth seekers are determined, focused and united in this mission. It would be weel advice for those insiders to come clean and blow the whistle before they become deeper involved in the GREATEST coup perpetrated in AMERICA's government. It's best to detach themselves NOW from the wrongdoers or face the consequences sooner or later. The whole world is watching and the truth will prevail. CRIME does not pay....it will ultimately catch-up. There is no escape, for we are all ONE...ONE WORLD.

We have been waiting for some insider to have the courage to uncover the insider crimes of the Bush Administration. Now we have it; people is still criticize (GOP and DEM alike).

Unlike “deepthroat of the Nixon Watergate”, Mc Clellan was and is in his book….was forthright….and had documented and accumulated and gathered all the misgivings, deceptions, falsifications, manufactured NIE, manipulations, and the unseen threats being secretly done behind close doors of the White House.

Sure he should have been loyal up to a certain point. But how can anyone in his position do that when he knows that his life as well as his family may be at risk of perhaps assination?

By coming out publicly; he accomplished several goals. He outed the crimes behind White House doors; Outed Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Bush Administration and Media complicities. Doing it publicly in essence gave him some security that if there is any attempt to assinate him for disloyalty; the public will know who would be prime suspect. It would be crazy for anyone make such an attempt……..

The more he remains in the public circle and in the media; the more he remain SAFE.

He is very well advice to accept Congress call for him to testify. This would give him more SECURITY……since he will be seen as KEY WITNESS……..