We've heard of politicians battling demons, but this is ridiculous
Newsweek has an item in its current issue about John McCain’s search for a running mate, and how the Republican senator will likely put personal interaction at the top of his list of priorities. Washington lobbyist Ken Duberstein told Newsweek, “He is not going to pick a clone or a crazy.”
It depends, I suppose, on the meaning of the word “crazy.”
It’s hardly a secret that Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R), at the ripe young age of 36, is drawing serious interest for the GOP ticket. McCain had Jindal over to one of his houses for a barbecue recently, and prominent conservative voices have been talking up a McCain-Jindal ticket for quite a while now.
There are plenty of drawbacks surrounding Jindal. He’s barely constitutionally eligible (Jindal is literally half McCain’s age); he’s ridiculously conservative; and he’s held statewide office for a grand total of six months.
And then, of course, there’s the exorcism thing, which Eric Kleefeld and Kate Klonick reported on yesterday, noting that it’s part of Jindal’s background that “hasn’t gotten much attention.”
We’ve discovered that in an essay Jindal wrote in 1994 for the New Oxford Review, a serious right-wing Catholic journal, Jindal narrated a bizarre story of a personal encounter with a demon, in which he participated in an exorcism with a group of college friends. And not only did they cast out the supernatural spirit that had possessed his friend, Jindal wrote that he believes that their ritual may well have cured her cancer.
Reading the article leaves no doubt that Jindal — who graduated from Brown University in 1991, was a Rhodes Scholar, and had been accepted at Yale Law School and Harvard Medical School when he wrote the essay — was completely serious about the encounter. He even said the experience “reaffirmed” his faith.
It occurs to me that this might seem like satire. An Oxford-trained governor and VP possibility really wrote about participating in an exorcism?
Yes, he really did.
The whole report from TPM is worth reading, but Jindal — who was a high-priced corporate consultant when he wrote the piece — explained that he had a classmate, “Susan,” who was acting strangely and was surrounded by “sulfuric” smells. After she reportedly suffered a seizure, Jindal and some friends began an exorcism, which he claimed lasted hours, and during which “Susan” tried to leave, causing the exorcism team to hold her down.
From Jindal’s essay:
It appeared as if we were observing a tremendous battle between the Susan we knew and loved and some strange evil force. But the momentum had shifted and we now sensed that victory was at hand.
While Alice and Louise held Susan, her sister continued holding the Bible to her face. Almost taunting the evil spirit that had almost beaten us minutes before, the students dared Susan to read biblical passages. She choked on certain passages and could not finish the sentence “Jesus is Lord.” Over and over, she repeated “Jesus is L..L..LL,” often ending in profanities. In between her futile attempts, Susan pleaded with us to continue trying and often smiled between the grimaces that accompanied her readings of Scripture. Just as suddenly as she went into the trance, Susan suddenly reappeared and claimed “Jesus is Lord.”
With an almost comical smile, Susan then looked up as if awakening from a deep sleep and asked, “Has something happened?” She did not remember any of the past few hours and was startled to find her friends breaking out in cheers and laughter, overwhelmed by sudden joy and relief.
Best of all, according to Jindal, after ridding “Susan” of her demon, her skin cancer disappeared.
Now, I have no idea how the typical American voter would perceive all of this. I find it odd, but who knows, maybe mainstream voters think candidates for national office who’ve experimented with exorcisms aren’t especially controversial.
Either way, if Jindal is chosen for the ticket, expect to hear a few questions about this in the fall.
I'm pretty sure this would help him get elected. Everyone knows that the best way to fight the forces of evil is with a good exorcism.
The bottom line is we are being KILLED by inflation-speculation (gambling) on the energy and commodities market. Then of course Iraq.
How we are taking this shit is beyond me.
you can't make this shit up!!!
Then why would he run for office with a demon?
That is just what I would expect from a maverick....
Buck up LA, At least the Supreme Court did something right. They didn't cave in to Georgie. But you are right, If McCain wins, we can kiss the middle class good-bye!
Oh please oh please oh please. Pick Jindal.
Let's see here:
36...check
Foreign looking...check
Oxford elitist...check
Part-time exorcist...check
We have a winner, John!
What could possibly go wrong?!
He was trippin on acid.
I fully support Jindal, the Ghost Buster, as McGrampa's VP choice. Instead of a decisive Obama victory, we'll see a complete and utter Democratic landslide.
Who ya gonna call? Ghost Busters!
Is mccame young enough for a good sexorcism.
After all, wife is a c$nt.
But if McCain pick Jindal, then who are the racists going to vote for with brown people on both tickets?! Barr? Paul?
displaced @ 12:
The reich-wing base will claim, "Our brown people are better than your brown people".
Can he make oil appear out of thin air and drop gas prices with a snap of the fingers?
I wish we could keep this stuff under wraps until Jindal is picked. No sense disqualifying him now. Let McCain have to kick him off the ticket later.
That's why McCainiac is going right to Christ!
casper46 @ 8:
Thank you for making me spew my Dr. Pepper all over the desk.
Let me just add this.
Hifrigginglarious!
McCain would do well to make sure that particular story is buried so that it never is shown the light of day. If he picks Jindal as a running mate and if that story comes out, some right wing, Protestant ,Conservative Evangelical Christians might overlook it or even support Jindal's faith but many others will condemn it. It is well known that there is extreme hatred for anything Catholic in many Protestant denominations. McCain is already seen as a "Liberal" by many that make up that group and they may see Jindal's story as another strike against him. I bet if Hagee or Parsley see that they will blow a gasket in response.
Speaking as an atheist, and to be fair, New York Times Bestselling author, M. Scott Peck, of The Road Less Traveled, which spent 500+ weeks in the top ten of that list, wrote another book afterwards in which he describes 2 videotaped sessions he participated in where he performed exorcisms.
The book came out in the same time frame as Jindal's essay did, so maybe this was a meme that was floating around that environment then.
~Nyc
The devil made me do it. Now I'm president.
Welcome to AmeriKa, Bizarro Land Central.
Just like Bush, McCain has no clue whatsoever as to just how ridiculous he is becoming. Again like Bush, is he surrounding himself with the most incompetent people he can find? I suppose one could never accuse Jindal of not being a colorful character.
He's crazy.
He's perfect.
wow......heavy stuff...extreme.. well i guess he's in the appropriate political party
Che's Lounge @ 22:
No shit! It seems like the republics would want AT LEAST ONE sane person on the ticket.
It shows that he's serious about winning the global war on the Boogieman...
if McSame picks this young man he will effectively be eliminating a cornerstone of the repube strategery to defeat obama. they could no longer raise the question of Obama's (nonexistent) lack of experience. But i am sure they would just make something else up to replace that .
Joe O. @ 18:
Indeed, but this exorcism is anything but Catholic. In fact Mr. Jindal, a professed Catholic, has violated Cannon Law by participating in this insanity since he is not an ordained priest with explicit permission from a bishop to perform the exorcism (which would only be granted after an exhaustive medical and mental evaluation).
Exorcisms? Cool, let me try!
I swear this actually happened, but I wasn't in law school.
Me and the Dalai Llama were knockin back some beers during a Celtics game a few years ago, when we heard some loud moaning coming from my stepsister's room. We eyed each other knowingly, but then there was the sound of broken glass against the wall. I beat him to her door by a tenth of a second. Whipping the door open, there was my stepsister, half naked on the bed, writhing in obvious distress.
"Help me, Jimbo," she moans, "I think the Devil's got my young, nubile body in his evil clutches!"
"Yo, Llama..."
I turn to the Llama but he just shrugs, "Dude, this is just weird. You're on your own."
Thinking fast, I run to my room and grab an old Larry Bird poster off the wall over my bed. I dash back and start shakin' Larry over her head.
"Yo Satan thing, here's Larry Bird, come to kick your ass, like he did to Magic Johnson's Lakers in 1985," I says.
You should have seen that series, it was great. Man, those Celtics were the ugliest mofo's I ever saw, but could they play hoop or what? You had Bird stealin' passes, whippin' it everywhere to Chief and McHale, a little turn and it was automatic from the pivot! Then you had Ainge rainin' threes from downtown all day, plus Dennis Johnson out hustling that stupid "Showtime" bullshit for all the tough points when they counted.
Anyway, my stepsister coughed up a whole apple pie, not a scratch on it, and wouldn't you know I still had half a can of whipped cream in the fridge.
All's well that ends well.
I had a similar experience as "Susan". Except, I do not believe I was possessed. When I was 14 years old my mother insisted I attend a Christian summer camp. When I showed up with a Metallica shirt on the Counselors decided I was possessed by a demon. They took me to a room away from the rest of the campers and held me down to anoint me with oil. Well, I was 14 and pimples were a real concern for me, so I told them not to put that fucking oil on me as I knew it would cause me to break out. They ignored my protests and held me down and put the oil on my forehead and spoke in tongues, praying that the demons that possessed me would leave. This continued for over an hour, until I threatened to call the police for false imprisonment, they were not going to let me go. I basically had to escape the room and call my parents to come pick me up. However, my mother refused and thought the experience would be good for me. uhg. This was just another step on my way to realizing I am an atheist. I hope McCain does pick this guy it will give the racists something to think about. A Secret Hindu vs. Secret Muslim? :-)
btw, I did get the biggest pimple of my life, right in the middle of my forehead. :-(
jimbo92107 @ 28:
where's the bong this frickin funny
Well, Mr. Conservative Jindal has already flip-flopped. He said he opposed a pay raise for state lawmakers, then decided to allow the pay raise to become law. He said the legislature was an independent body and responsible for it's own pay. He didn't bother to veto the bill which tripled the pay of state lawmakers. Same old, same old.
bigbrother2084 @ 4:
every team has a mascot
Jay @ 29: Sorry to hear about your abuse at the hands of wackos. In Africa you might have been killed for being a witch. Mysticism is destructive by nature.
I think 'Susan' is lucky that Bobby and her other 'friends' diagnosed her as 'possessed': they could have gone with 'witch.'
Didn't Jindal name himself -as a kid- after Bobby from 'The Brady Bunch'?
joeedugan @ 34:
Even if he didn't, it makes a wonderful rumor.
Ya know, the exorcism, is the most endearing thing I've heard about a a Repug.
He might be a scumbag otherwise, but the mind and spirit of humans, is not all a known quantity, so if he had said he saw a UFO, or such, at least there is an open mind to SOMETHING.
But, seriously, he'd be a hoot to have in the race.
As goofy as the exorcism story is, it conceals an even bigger fatal flaw in Jindal's character. He's clearly the kind of guy who, when confronted with a friend who has fallen into a seizure, takes it upon himself to diagnose, and try to cure, the problem. The fact that his "cure" involves shoving a bible in her face and making her proclaim her love of the Lord is secondary to the fact that HE DIDN'T CALL 911! Is that the kind of guy we want a heartbeat (and a very OLD heartbeat at that) away from the Oval Office?
Barleymash @ 37:
Sorry, I meant "reveals" a fatal flaw
When I was in college I had a friend who had a "vibe stick." When he was feeling good he would rub his stick to bank the good vibes against times when he was feeling bad. When he was feeling bad he would rub the vibe stick to feel better.
What he didn't know was that I and others would pick up his vibe stick when he wasn't around and put the meanest, saddest vibes into it that we could work up. Oddly, he never seemed to notice them when he later rubbed his stick.
(And yes, I have deliberately employed the phrase "rub his stick" repeatedly because I am a Stephanie Miller fan with an eight-year-old's sense of humor.)
Ed in NJ @ 15:
Exactly! Shhhhhhhhhhh . . quietly, people.
The bible speaks of laying hands on people, so it really depends on your faith. It really is not uncommon. Those that doubt it, probably doubt the ability to speak in tongues, and may agree with tying people up that do on a stake in the middle of town to barbeque (only now we do it electronically). I don't like Jindal, but we're really pulling at straws to criticize this piece. There's plenty of other topics to discuss about Jindal than this.
Jindal's barely constitutionally eligible status is most probably more genuine than John McCain's constitutionally eligible status since it has not been legally determined whether McCain is a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution states and requires.
Why does it seem that all of these sick bastards come out of the Ivy League?
Was the evil spirit Darth Cheney?
When does Fox News start running his picture with a 'D' next to it, then?
lyleleander @ 45:
Right after he's caught buggering little boys. In three... two...
karl @ 30:
Oh, I forgot to mention. You know my stepsister? What ever happened to her, right?
Well, since then she gained a lot of weight, but that thing on her foot? I think it actually got smaller!
I believe only an ordained Catholic Priest can conduct an exorcism. From what I've read, only the Roman Catholic Church still acknowledges the existence of demons as sentient beings, and that only reluctantly.
I'm relatively sure that a layperson, no matter how devout, cannot lay claim to having performed an exorcism. To a Catholic, that seems about akin to saying that he performed a marriage, or converted bread to the body of Christ. It is a power granted by the Lord to His ordained, not to whoever feels like doing it.
It may sound ridiculous to us, but it will probably be a big selling point for many Republicans.
Imagine, two warriors on the same ticket -- one to crush our earthly foes and the other to battle Beelzebub and the supernatural forces of evil. Sounds like a winner to me.
What will their campaign slogan be?
The Armageddon You Deserve
hm, healing skin cancer. he might try that on McCain, who is ... old. Hellooo, President Jindal.
Pawn @ 41:
Right . . speaking in tongues. Here's where I learned all about that..
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20278737/jesus_made_me_puke/1
Am I the only one that got visions of Jaye tied up in her bed while the nun is holding a knife over her to exorcise her. Reference to Wonderfalls by the way.
Gah, the guy is a loon. Perfect fit I guess.
Insane McCain and his demonically challenged friends (and running mates). These guys are the gift that keeps giving.
I wonder how LA feels now that that book came out and it was shown how the Goopers played politics while people drown, gathered in the Super Dome and had no water and were raped, how help was there but either went away (or was sent away) all because of politics. Yeah, Jindal is the perfect running mate!
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If Jindal was a dem the right would keep asking "is he a Hindu"?
(He's not - he's a Catholic convert from Hinduism)
Brian @ 48:
You said it better than I was going to. You're right. I'm not Catholic, but I've done some research into exorcisms and demonology by the Church. (I just found it an interesting topic at the time).
However, the Bible does charge believers: "These are the signs that will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;" (Mark 16:17).
The Bible also has such nonsense like: Thou Shalt Not Lie, Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Wife... and forbade practices of eating pork. So, you can take that for what it's worth.
yet another Conservative/Evangelical running of the tired old trope "...but GOD is on our side!!"
heh...if you believe in an omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient God, then I suppose yes, he may be on your side....and mine, and Osama's, and Mao's, etc.....because HE's everything to everyone, everywhere.......
I love battling the bull sometimes.....
If 999-year-old McCain thinks choosing a 36-year-old for VP is a good idea, fine. That will make it harder to plausibly argue that Obama is too young or inexperienced.
McCain's 2,000-year-old mother aside, having the oldest first term president ever, especially one with his lousy health history, kind of enhances the likelihood of the VP moving into the Oval Office.
If Jindal took over, would it be constitutionally permissible for him to conduct exorcisms in the White House?
Jay @ 29:
Ooh, any other cool stigmata?
Personally, I don't think all blacks are voting for Obama because Obama is black. Sure, some are. But I think the overwhelming majority of them understand what's been going on in America over the last 20 years and understand who is better for them and better for this nation. In other words, most of them have not been hoodwinked by a very clever media. And they haven't been hoodwinked not because they are smarter than white people, just because their experiences have taught them better bullshit detection techniques.
Now, if Jindal as VP is an attempt to get this "ethnic" vote to go with McSame, they are totally blowing it. First off, "African American" is not a skin color, it's an entire set of experiences that Jindal just doesn't have. For that matter, I suspect that Obama doesn't have many of those experiences either considering his being raised in rural Kansas.
McSame will only lose the racist white vote.
As for the racist white vote, I see two kinds of racists. There are the complete racists who would prefer to just hate all blacks no matter what. Then there are the "racists" who only hate blacks that they don't know. The former group will vote McSame, but they won't vote at all if Jindal is on the ticket. The second group will come around and nearly all of them will end up with Obama, once they actually hear him speak full paragraphs and not just the sound bites the corporate media wants them to hear.
Personally, I think this election is going to be a blowout for Obama. I just hope the people (D) also win the house and senate by 60+% margins as well.
Blue Lensman @ 51:
Does Bronzed Aged mysticism belong in the White House?
The answer to that is a huge NO!
The fellow is insane. No amount of claiming otherwise will be able to change that fact.
Imagine that you put that on a resume, and gave a copy to the average employer?
Example: Master's in Fine Arts. Hobbies: Demonic Exorcism.
How many offers of employment do you think you would get?
So, don't go trying to tell us how 'normal' his behavior is.
It isn't. 'Nuff said.
Speaking of religious nuts ---> Huckabee joins Fox News.
Good to see Faux staying with its "fair [snicker] and balanced [snicker x2]" mantra.
they realized that Susan was not a witch because she was not made of wood.
Blue Lensman @ 51:
The story loses me at John Hagee who poisons the waters of evangelism. Not the best example to provide. Was there some humor you were trying to get across?
Here's what really happened:
Susan and her college friends were partying. Maybe doing bong hits and sitting around watching classic movies like 'Cool Hand Luke.' They get the munchies. Somebody decides to cook up a whole bunch of hard boiled eggs - like Luke eats in the movie. Susan eats a lot of eggs - people are yelling 'Go Susan' and encouraging her to eat another and another. Susan gets sick. Susan lays down. Susan has gas. Susan has smelly sulfurous egg farts.
Square, gullible Indian-American grind 'Bobby' shows up. Is told the smoke in the room is from 'incense'. He goes with that, but can't understand why he smells sulfur. Someone says 'Uh dude, it's Susan. Somethings wrong. We think that she might be possessed or something.' Two girls can't control their giggles and run from the room, trying their hardest not to pee their pants. Bobby and the other kids perform an 'exorcism' on the very stoned, very sick 'Susan'. At the end, she passes one last voluminous parcel of egg gas and awakens, her painful stomach cramps gone and much of her high dissipated.
Bobby goes away with his faith reaffirmed. The other kids go away with a great story about how they put one over on the hyper-ambitious humorless Indian kid.
Now my story is TOTALLY made up. Jindal's story is supposedly true. Even knowing that my story is B.S., isn't it about a million times more believable?
*grabs bag of popcorn*
While Alice and Louise held Susan, her sister continued holding the Bible to her face. Almost taunting the evil spirit that had almost beaten us minutes before, the students dared Susan to read biblical passages. She choked on certain passages and could not finish the sentence “Jesus is Lord.” Over and over, she repeated “Jesus is L..L..LL,”
*munch, munch, munch*
...often ending in profanities. In between her futile attempts, Susan pleaded with us to continue trying and often smiled between the grimaces that accompanied her readings of Scripture. Just as suddenly as she went into the trance, Susan suddenly reappeared and claimed “Jesus is Lord.”
where's the head spinning? the crawling on the ceiling?
still, though, this is some good shit...
oh wait... he's serious?????
crikey yikey!
please, mccain, pick this guy, please!!!!
numinous @ 60:
I agree, politics and religion don't mix. If your evangelising, you speak provide testaments to people to convert them to christianity (whether you believe or not is a whole other discussion). People get mad at churces for bringing politics into their sermons, but where is the outrage of politicians bringing religion into politics. The outrage seems to come from the sermon rather than the actual comingling of 2 very seperate institutions. I can't stand how faith is so important in making a political decision. If your a politician, stick to the issues. If your a priest, teach the bible.
Pawn @ 63:
No, I was quite serious. Although the story is quite humorous, somewhere towards the end a preacher describes the practice of "speaking in tongues" to the author and how might improve his own abilities in that area by practicing at home when he's puttering around the house.
Are Dem operatives running McDoofus' campaign?
Pass me the popcorn, Samson.
StirFry Belvedere @ 68:
the mccain campaign has reached 'tim and eric' levels of awkwardness, somewhere romney is licking his jet-black lips and preening his coat....
*passes bag*
salt?
hahaha, tim and eric. maybe we can call mccain/jindal the beaver boys. Shrimp! and White wine!
Are you kidding me???!!! Our current president talks directly to Jesus every night in his presidential jammies, and he thinks his truck will be "unmanned in case of rapture".
Casting out demons would be a bonus for a republican candidate.
Plus, most americans will think that he's M. Night Shyamalan. Of course, he is mighty brown. That could go in our favor.
StirFry Belvedere @ 70:
sportin' round town in their skin-tight all-white outfits, doing the beaver bounce~
hey everbody, look! its the mcbeaver boyz!
johnnypunchclock @ 71:
Yeah. The Bible Belt is going to be a problem. A lot of those people will believe anything with the world 'Jesus' in front of it.
And people in this country look down on VooDoo...
Blue Lensman @ 67:
I am non-denominational in my faith. I believe in speaking in tongues, and the power of the holy spirit (many of you will probably have alot of deragotory things to say, so be it). I don't know about practicing speaking in tongues other than practicing letting the holy spirit using you as a vessel in praising the lord. Speaking in tongues is the overflow of the holy spirit exiting through your mouth. It is really exhilarating if you allow yourself to be taken. I'll just say that I doubted it up until the moment I had a holy woman lay hands on me at my church. It took a while, I tried to tell myself to let go and let it out. She would say that's no tongues I've ever heard. A short time later as pastors and her were praying around me, I found myself laid out on a pugh speaking in tongues. God bless those that doubt the power of the Holy Spirit, and may you find Jesus.
The larger point I was making in my initial comment is that we should be going after this mans political mistakes and corruption. This is small fries compared to things he's allowing to happen in LA. Now commingling church and state is a big issue, but what he wrote wasn't even in a political arena. We talk trash about those that mention a fist bump between Obama and his wife, what is the difference in this. Let's stick to the larger issues that truly have an impact on all of us, there's lots to talk about.
Like it or not forces we don't understand do stalk the earth.
Pawn @ 75:
Ohhhhhhhhhh PLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASSSEEEEEEEEE
And it wasn't a fist bump, it was a "TEERORIST" fist bump. Get your talking points down first.
He looks like half guys that work at 7-11's.
Honesty is an effort driven process of putting facts into proper context. In contrast, spouting off about "truth" comes automatically to about anyone.
That "exorcism" sounds an awful lot like like an admission of kidnapping to me. Generally speaking, there's no statute of limitations on kidnapping.
CD @ 76:
Like what? What are these forces we don't understand? Tell us how the forces beyond our understanding are somehow understood by you well enough to know that humanity isn't capable of understanding it?
I just love you religiocrazies. They make claims, usually when you have no idea how something works.
That claim is usually; "God did it".
That's usually the good enough for you. That's sad. Thankfully there are people in the world that aren't satisfied with mystical beliefs.
If we followed your kind of logic we'd be back to burning witches.
I'll pass. Go drink some Kool-Aide.
Rob J @ 80:
Now that I think of it, you could be right.
People should be taking a good look at that. After all, we don't want a politician in office that would approve of kidnappings. Think of how horrible that would be.
Oh. Wait.....
CD @ 76:
Of course they do. And they merit scientific study, not a faith-based approach that begins from the premise that we do understand those forces, who is behind them, and why.
This story is just hilarifying.
And I'm supposed to respect these religious beliefs? No, thank you. I respect religious people, and their equal right to believe what they believe. But respect these beliefs? Not a chance.
Numinous @ 81:
Nice put downs.
A good friend of mine once saw the night sky torn open like it was a piece of paper and a blue light shine through.
In less than a minute the gap mended it's self but he saw it none the less.
CD @ 76:
You are right. I don't understand Bush or Cheney.
Karen @ 83:
"And I'm supposed to respect these religious beliefs? No, thank you. I respect religious people"
yeah right.
xoites defends Constitution @ 85:
ROTFLMFAO
Can we give the man an award for that post???
bong hits for shiva @ 78:
Charming.
CD @ 86:
You can choose to impugn my honesty, CD, but it's wholly unfair for you to do so.
If you'll remember, a while back, I was the atheist who spoke out against the sickening anti-Christian jokes permeating one of the threads.
You applauded me for it.
So, go ahead and make your rash judgments about me. It only makes you appear prejudiced.
It's bat-shit crazy!
I like the jindal pick for VP. It totally negates the Obama inexperience argument.
How can they bash Obama's inexperience when they want to run a guy with even less experience for a position that is a heartbeat (and a weak one considering McCain's age) away from the presidency.
McCain/Jindal it is!
Karen @ 89:
Ok you do have a track record.
I was wrong.
Rob J @ 80:
False imprisonment, perhaps. I'm not sure there's kidnapping.
McCain was impressed when he heard about Jindal's capacity and Susan's story to beat the demons.
McCain asked Jindal if in some way he can get the demons out of the national debt and help the dollar; since McCain knows nothing about the economy.
Jindal promised McCain also that he can do exorcism on Ahmadi Najad to avoid war.
McCain thinks Jindal will be a good asset for his campaign
Jindal looks very young and that makes McCain the experienced, the wiseman.
McCain is so old that he addresses Obama who is 46 years of age as the young man.
The reality is, any candidate is a young man next to McCain.
CD @ 92:
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Who ya gonna call?
Ghostbusters?
Randy @ 94:
Ron Paul sounds he's 60 next to McCain.
Karen @ 95:
No seriously I acted like a dick.
I suspect I need a break from the net.
Later.
CD @ 98:
Hahaha! This conversation is none of my business except to say that I have given myself time-outs before as well. Don't feel too bad, CD. When bashing yourself later, remember that you apologized and K accepted. It helps, believe me.
Have a good break. Ice cream and a walk outside...that's the ticket.
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Bluntly - I still respect Dennis Kucinich despite his saying he saw a UFO. I find it awfully hypocritical to vent on this man just because I already disagree with him on almost everything else in the world, and instead of a UFO he thought he interacted with a demon. I can make an argument he should have called a doctor, but that is between him and the otehr person in question, and frankly, not the argument I'm seeing made.
I have seen phenomena that convince me, personally, that there is validity to the concept of consciousness that exists without being held in matter, but detectable by other conscious being around them like us. Whether this is an indication of consciousness as a quantum state, a hyper-computer, something that exists outside of but interacting with the normal universe is beyond me.
I will grant for purposes of argument that it is possible the instances I've seen were some unrelated phenomena spawned by electromagnetic fields affecting the human brain, or a genetic defect resulting in in an overdose of some neurochemical in some portion of my cortex. But since there is no way to *disprove* the possibility of a hallucination in some form, it really doesn't qualify as a scientific explanation.
All that said, whether a hallucination, or a real phenomena, enough people of worth have encountered such events that I think it's a mistake to assume incompetence based on that alone. I'm not planning to quit respecting Dennis Kucinich because he saw a UFO, nor am I going to start respecting Mr. Jindal because he saw something he believed qualified as a demon.
My respect, disrespect, or other feelings on these men is, and I believe should be, based on their policies, ethics, willingness to tolerate disagreement, and a dozen other things based in the reality that is firmly rooted before us. If Mr. Jindal insists on performing exorcisms before congress, then we can revisit the issue, other than that, I really doubt we know enough to pass judgment based on this.
Khemb, your doctor had a reason for prescribing those meds. You really should take them.
For the rest, I'm hoping for Romney as VP, though I doubt anything will happen of it. That would be two consummate crawlers willing to say anything to get elected, for one large price. The Obama campaign would have a field day attacking them.
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CD @ 98:
you're point is well taken, but how can i respect a man who's stoned
out of his gourd on goof balls?
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Jonnan @ 101:
I saw something and I defer identifying it VS I Mashed Her With A BIBLE.
Oh sure McCain.. I love it... I really do... You do that old man, pick a guy with what? Six months experience in office who liked to participate in exorcisms and other hi-jinks while in college... which was apparently not that long ago...he is only 36 after all... Nevermind that whole exercisms that cure cancer bit... Yea, Johnny boy, that'll work right out dude..... And then lets do get all the playaz together in one of them town hall debates and talk about who has what kind of experience... Obama is suppose to be too young, too inexperienced and McCain is picking this guy to be his numero dos??? Uh huh...riiiighhht....
On another level, how did this Jingle guy end up a Rhodes Scholar??? who greased those wheels and why. Another Ivy Leaguer ehh... Say, isn't that one of George's big claims to fame too?? I'm beginning to wonder what the big deal is with the Ivy league when they are turning out these kinds of 'big haha intellectual brains'.......sheesh, ya really can't make this shit up....JD
that looks a whole lot like a TERRORIST FIST PUNCH !!!!!!
Oh hey! The Dems seem to be doin' purty good with that ethnic lookin' youngin. We gotta get us one!
Baddog @ 105:
rofl!
I cast out the demon of Anal Fissures!!! and Philosophy!
Matt Taibi is the best.
When you're as decrepit as McCain succession becomes the uber issue of your party.
G.O.P is scraping the bottom of barrel.
When your Very close friends,with the Grimreeper it does.
Did you see that... Did ya?
I swear, in that picture Mclame is performing the ultra secret, half-a-terrorist-fist-jab.
His co-conspirator is just a little out of practice. Out of sync, I think.
oh god...i hope jindal gets the nod
forget the excorcism thing
with him on the ticket the wingnuts wont be able to go after obama's name or his father's or stepfather's religion anymore
bobby's real name is Piyush....he took the name bobby because he relates to bobby brady
his wife's name is Supriya Jolly
he was born a hindu, but converted to catholicism in hs
and lets not get started on outsourcing....cuz jindal made his bones working for Arcelor Mittal
Shows you how much you know about Jindal. He just turned 37. Typical media - get your facts straight! :)
CD @ 84:
Yep. It's a put down.
I fully admit that.
Notice that you take on blind faith that what you're friend said actually happened. No question. No doubt. Nice a gullible.
Just the way the Authoritarians like them. Weak in mind... strong in spirit.
P. T. Barnum would love you. There's a sucker born every minute. You're a whole hour's worth in one big bundle.
It has to be said. If you find it insulting, do something about it. Learn to question.
Then I wouldn't have to say such things to you.
Grow up.
Numinous @ 117:
You know what really bothers me? It not just that you're gullible and delusional. It's more than that.
You're making other suffer for you insanity. You support blatantly evil men, just because they say 'god says I'm right'.
That's good enough for you. Who pays? The whole world.
You don't even care. Not one bit. After all.... you have an invisible big buddy telling you that you're right... and in you're mind, the rest of us can go to hell.
That's what bothers me about you.
If you say something idiotic like: "But I'm just trying to save you!"... I'd say, you can take your salvation and shove it in the appropriate place. We sane people don't want to be like you. None of your passive aggressive preachings will convince us that we should be.
Is Jindal's religion enough to redeem his being brown?
Methinks McCain's base doesn't think much of brown people of any faith.
Does this mean no photo ops with cheney?
Y'all need to give credit to long-time Louisiana blogger Greg Peters of Suspect Device who broke this and posted a pdf of Jindal's rantings 5 years ago, when Jindal was first running for governor in Louisiana.
Brad @ 97:
Ron Paul is history on the campaign trail, but his political revolution is just beginning.
Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
Mayor: What do you mean, "biblical"?
Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
“He is not going to pick a clone or a crazy.” Not to be overly picky but is this not being redundant?
First off, won't the Roman Catholic church have to investigate this claim of exorcism if he's to stay a congregant
second won't the fundie right wing have a problem with the fact that Jindal was raised Hindu and converted to Roman Catholisim instead of a protestant faith
third won't they have a problem with his "actual" name of "Piyush" if "Barack" wasn't too strange enough for the middle of the country.
fourth, OMG this guy is bad news
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doesn't having a guy standing next to you who you are old enough to be his father JUST emphasis how old you are?
it also doesn't give the impression of a partnership more like a mentorship
clytemnestra @ 125:
emphasize
Isn't Jindal supposed to be Catholic? The Catholic church has strict rules about exorcism. It is my understanding that the practice may only be performed by a priest with the explicit permission of the local bishop. A medical examination must be performed first.
It appears Bobby Jindal is performing rituals not authorized by his church. Or is this a case of a student abusing a sick person.
I thought the Republicans had a problem with Obama's lack of experience. Barack Obama makes Bobby Jindal look like a neophyte.
the irony of a great era of earthly occupation of the history of this planet is that we will be done in by our backassward superstition. Seriously, listen to all the fucking science. Its 2008 how could somebody vote for someone who believes in this shit? fuck. really.
America is retarded.
McCain's lobbyist handlers are tossing Jindal's name around for one reason and one reason only...
He's got dark skin and looks young, Period.
The GOP is as scared as they have ever been.
clytemnestra @ 126:
Technically speaking, McCain is old enough to be his GRANDFATHER.
Here's a joke:
Question: Why do some people think that McCain could be lying about his age?
Answer: People had trouble reading his birth certificate. Seems like few people these days can read Sanskrit.
Please, Please, Please pick Jindal!!! Whoops, McCain already picked the governor of Florida, my mistake.
John H @ 128:
Jindal was performing a exorcism based on the Thuggee religious cult. Looks like a job for Indiana Jones, KALI-MA!
It is incredible and pathetic that adult human beings, supposedly intelligent, actually believe this crock of supernatural hogwash and religious bullshit.
Jindal would be a nice pick for the U.S. His religious background may have a concern, because he could be an emissary of the Pope cult. The exorcism can be performed by anyone who has enough faith to counter the evil. The only person that terrifies me are the Papacy, the intellectuals, the socialist.
I would vote for McCain and Jindal this November!
Agent M @ 133:
Good one.
And John H you're right. I'll bet Jindal doesn't get on the ticket. What votes are Jindal going to get McFraud that he can't get on his own? He's going to either get another Southern male conservative or a republican Governor who happens to be a woman to dilute Hillary's base. Maybe Mel Martinez from Florida. That would be a considerable problem.
EZ @ 135:
I can tell you're a dangerously insane person. Let me point something out to you.
What Jindal did is considered assault and kidnapping. If you think that people have a right to commit such acts because an invisible sky man tells them, you deserve to be in a insane asylum, or a prison cell.
Jindal should be in jail, or under serious psychiatric treatment. He certainly should not be in a position of ANY power.
Jindal is also showing signs of psychosis. He's obviously delusional.
You religious nuts are mentally diseased, and do not belong among civilized human beings.
McThuselah and the rest of the right are delusional, they all need shots and straight jackets.
Jindal's conversion: at least praying to three gods in stead of praying to a bunch is a step in the right direction: praying to no gods.
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