GOP Lies About Chinese Drilling For Oil Off Cuba
By Nicole Belle Thursday Jun 12, 2008 5:40pm
To gin up support for off-shore drilling, the Right has an ace up its rhetorical sleeve: the Chinese in Cuba. Here's Vice President Cheney.
"[O]il is being drilled right now 60 miles off the coast of Florida. We're not doing it. The Chinese are in cooperation with the Cuban government... Even the communists have figured out that a good answer to high prices is more supply. Yet Congress has said... no to drilling off Florida.''
"Even the communists" is a nice flourish. Mix the red scare with the yellow scare and get Uncle Dick's own Orange Scare. Guaranteed to freak out Americans concerned about their energy security. Here's House Republican Whip Roy Blunt (R-MO), piling on:
"Even China recognizes that oil and natural gas is readily available off our shores; thanks to Fidel Castro, they've been given a permit to drill for oil 45 miles from the Florida Keys."
Adds House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), "Right at this moment, some 60 miles or less off the coast of Key West, Florida, China has the green light to drill for oil in order to lower energy costs in that country."
Problem is, that's all false. Like, completely false. China is not currently drilling off the shores of Cuba; in fact, it doesn't even have a off shore drilling contract. What is does have is a permit to drill on Cuban land. "China is not drilling in Cuba's Gulf of Mexico waters, period,'' Jorge Piñon, an energy expert at the University of Miami's Center for Hemispheric Policy, told the Miami Herald. In fact, it is not yet drilling on Cuban land, either.
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so .. when did FACTS get in the way of the GOP's PROPAGANDA ?
Quote du jour:
"If Liberals REALLY hated America they'd vote Republican."
Cheney and Bush will say and do anything in order to drive up crude oil prices.
they lie and their rationale is they know better than the public........tell me something i don't know
Fox News parading this story this morning. No surprise it is false.
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Yes…
Richard B. Cheney is a LIAR…
… What’s new about that?
Got WMD’s…?
Got SMOKING GUNS…?
Got IMMINENT THREATS…?
Got SADDAM’S TIES TO OBL…?
Got RADIOLOGICAL and NUCLEAR MATERIALS…?
Got NOT OUTING A CIA UNDERCOVER OPERATIVE…?
CHENEY = LIAR!
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Breaking News... Tim Russert dead.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBIT_RUSSERT?SITE=PAPIT&SECTION=A...
The FACT is that most of the oil being pumped from Alaskan fields is going to China, it is is the NeoCon Republicans and their oil industry masters who are responsible. Who Cuba sells its oil to is none of our business. Who the US sells to is--especially when gasoline prices are syrocketing in the US and the US oil companies are whining that we have an oil shortage and the only way to get those prices down is to allow more drilling in Alaska and other US sites. It's time to nationalize the oil industry.
Sorry C&L... I see you have the Russert story up below.
This country is getting JUST what it deserves by electing these horrible sub-humans.
Cheney will seize Anwr and the both coasts before he is done. Call it a emergency or something like that. Carpe oil
I don't know what Cheney was thinking mentioning Cuba, other than damn can we switch the conversation so that my buddies in the oil business can continue screwing the American people by proposing new drilling in the US along with heheh....some additional subsidies. Cuba does have oil and China was interested but lost out to a European group. No one is drilling but the reserves are thereand the chinese are interested.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14095881/
US oil companies are pissed at missing a great opportunity right under their noses due to the fucking embargo supported by Cuban American Miami fat cats and their republican shills.
they(gop) are trying very hard to dilute the crude price issue and place blame
the reasons for price of crude
weak u.s. dollar
inflation
speculators
supply and demand/geopolitics
for people looking to place an easier/propaganda reason for crude prices they use the dems. fault...ANWR total nonsense...this is for a less sophisticated audience
What maroons.
Why is Cheney not in jail? I`ve heard that is what happens to horse rustlers in Wyoming.So why not war profiteers? How dumb does he think the population is?Just because they snowed them about Iraq,FISA,totrure,Gitmo,the "war on(of)terror,"outing a CIA agent,and on and on....Can`t somebody make a citizen`s arrest?
david blimmo @ 7:
Sorry but there is no oil shortage. The oil companies have plenty of oil. They just don't refine it to drive the price up. Btw peak oil is a myth. Introduced by an engineer from Shell oil.
I would like to point out, since it only happens just so often, that a REPUBLICAN actually called out Cheney on this. Not sure about this guy beyond that...
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/12/mel-martinez-v-cheney/?sortby=toprated
It's shocking.
Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled programming of Cheney lying his martha farking ass off.
The Chinese government is no more communist than Stalin's was. Are the women and children making your basketball shoes the ones' running the shop through a workers' committee the members of which they elected? All evidence points to the contrary.
Entertaining how these "commie" stories seem to be increasing.
New Slogan:
Republicans: Commies and Turrists. BOOGA BOOGA!!!
there are many variables...banks and financial institutions are making money(hedge stratgies)..hoping to recoupe losses credit crunch/subprime...countries with nationalized oil are busy collecting money from high price crude they are dealing with inflation also so they welcome they high prices...we should remove tarriffs for sugar base ethanol(brazil) compete a bit with crude
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=84354
Things must be worse than first thought to have a Republicans resorting to telling the truth.
Can any Repug tell the truth? Lying is second nature to them. I can't beleive these guys have so much power. WTF?
Mean Jean spreads the GOP lies for their puppet masters Big Oil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-7JN7z2cUg
P.D. @ 21:
Republican maybe......NEOCON no
Cheney's still alive while Russert, and many others, are not.
There is no god.
I couldn't figure out why Mel Martinez, a republican would make such an effort to dismiss Cheney and make such a big deal about the Chinese. Then it dawned on me that Mel who is a part of the Cuban mafia wants to divert attention away from the fact that Cuba has substantial oil because that could provide a strong incentive to lift the embargo. Many layers to this story.
Cheney looks out his window and says, "The tuth! It's out there! Because it sure as hell is not in here."
My theory about the high gas prices and false stories like this is that the Bush/Cheney machine wants to reward its buddies with offshore drilling at ANWR before they leave office. They know there's no chance under President Obama. The idea is to get the public good and mad about the high cost of gas, then hope the flaccid Democratic leadership capitulates in an election year to not be blamed for gas prices.
Notice Cheney is careful not to say the Chinese is drilling oil. He implies it, but never explicitly says it.
The others are less careful.
Cheney was forced to admit that he lied... but he wasn't very
apologetic...
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/13/cheney-admits-oil-lie/
So Shooty McGee's answer to the energy issue is to—wait for it—emulate the commies?
I'm reminded of the following exchange:
Red Forman: "So you two are going to fix your marriage my dating other people?"
Midge Pinciotti: "Well when you say it like that it just sounds stupid."
Red Forman: "Okay, Midge…say it so it doesn't sound stupid."
You know what is so sad. All those poor people flooded and not a peep from the White House or Administraiton. He we have a disaster, and nobody seems to care!
They would sell their mother and children into prostitution for the right to drill any where.
Scy @ 9:
Actually, no! Al Gore won in 2000, and I don't care what pigface Tony says - I am not getting over it.
we can solv da oil peroblum with drillin and nukular cus rush sayed so. and yu commy librals leetistsists are commies.
"It ain't a lie if you tell it enough..."
-Wackiavelli's "Mislead the People, Mislead the Sheeple"
Talk about phoning it in. The twisted SOB's aren't even trying anymore.
Ok, so witch MSM outlet will have this first? Amy Goodman?
LibertyLover @ 29:
Why woukd cheney admit he lied? When has he ever done this? You guys and most of the press including Maddow are missing the point. Cheney stepped right in the middle of two of the most important republican support groups. The oil companies and the Cuban american cabal in Miami. The oil companies want cuban oil but that would require lifting the embargo, the last thing cuban american cabal wants. The chinese have good relations with Cuba. Of course they want the oil. However they don't have the technology to do the deep well drilling that is required. In the near future China could team up with a european company and drill off the cuban coast. That pisses Exxonmobil off .
the "conspiracy guy" in me says that gas prices are being hiked this election season as a last ditch effort to push for off-shore drilling before the inevitable changing of the guards. the "everyday joe" in me says that it is because of the iraq war, the election season, and increased world demand (in that order). but unfortunately, the "christian" in me is talking the loudest...the anti-christ is finally in control.
Isn't China drilling in ANWR too? [snark]
Comrade Rou @ 15:
In what way is peak oil a myth? Is oil somehow replenishing itself at the same rate humans are using it?
P.D. @ 31:
Cheney is probably vacationing at an undisclosed location, Condi is probably buying shoes and Bush is probably doing what Bush does or doesn't do.
cheneys lips were moving.....you know the rest.
Chris H. @ 41:
Even the Arabs don't pump out of every well.
Nicole, do you have the video from earlier today where the hysterical Faux commentators were outraged because "China is Drilling For Oil Off of the Coast of Cuba"?
Ron @ 44:
But there still will be a demand for it, even if they don't pump out every well; prices will go up if production is limited. Either way, peak oil or not, we will have to find alternative resources.
Chris H. @ 41:
Until a few years ago Peak Oil was supposed to be in the year 2050. Imagine a bell curve with the apex at 2050 and increasing production around 2010 or so and dropping completely off by the year 2080 or so.
Then, for some ODD reason, Peak Oil was moved up to the year 2010.
My view? I think oil companies paid a few advertising and research firms to manipulate the market and so-called "studies" so that they can justify hiking the prices even higher while whining about shortages, blaming it all on Peak Oil.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363683,00.html
BARNES: It won't help McCain, for sure. And Obama's position is that he is not for any increased oil production at all.
The public is smart, though. They understand supply and demand. That's not a difficult concept to understand. Demand is high, and supply is constricted.
And I think Republicans have an argument that I think it can be an actually politically winning argument that brings them some benefits. One, President Bush has to keep pounding away that we need the increased production, and point out that, look, in Florida, you're not going to drill off Palm Beach. You're going to be drilling 100 miles out offshore.
HUME: Where in Cuba China already is drilling.
BARNES: China is 60 miles offshore drilling there for the Cubans right now.
So this is an issue that I think Republicans can do a lot with, but they do need McCain to switch as well.
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Good to see Faux carrying the White House message....as usual.....
Both Limbaugh and Hannity repeated this lie this week. Guess they're all getting the same emails...
Chris H. @ 46:
Of course, if we have alternative sources they wouldn't be able to have a lock on control of energy prices.
Ron @ 50:
The Saudis are exporting enough oil. It's the oil companies who are keeping the crude in reserve so as to create the illusion of shortages, instead of refining it as they get it.
Plums @ 47:
I've repeatedly heard OPEC officials say they don't need to increase production. The problem is resulting in part from the devalued dollar, Bush stocking the national oil reserves and market manipulation.
Cheney Acknowledges He Lied About China Drilling ‘60 Miles Off The Coast Of Florida’
Oops.
Chris H. @ 41:
There is much more oil than oil companies would like you to know. The Saudi minister of oil recently declared there is plenty of oil. US oil companies like to promote the idea of peak oil for obvious reasons.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm
Cavuto Repeats Cheney Lie About Chinese & Cubans Drilling
Chris H. @ 41:
Dr. (terrorist fist jab) Matt @ 55:
Did he do a "terrorist fist bump" with Roger Ailes after he reported this?
Leslie [Hussein] @ 52:
The oil companies have also been reducing refining capacity and blaming it on environmentalist. You artificially reduce supply and prices go up.
Also regarding high oil prices add: war in Iraq, threatened war on Iran.
Leslie [Hussein] @ 52:
Precisely. The current "crisis" is due to political reasons. It has nothing to do with natural resources.
Here's what needs to happen:
1. The government needs to start regulating oil prices again instead letting speculators run wild.
2. Ask Iran and Syria for help to resolve the political instability in Iraq.
3. Pressure the Israelis to comply with international law and allow the Palestinians to establish a state.
4. Open diplomatic channels with Iran.
The results will be:
1. Political stability in the Middle East
which will help
2. Reduce the price of crude oil
3. Re-Establish America's standing in the world
4. The dollar and the economy will bounce back as a result
Chris H. @ 41:
Try again. Sorry. Gas Price Manipulation And Gull Island Oil
Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 57:
I'm sure there was some sort of fisting action going on with those two. :)
Lindsey Williams on oil at Gull Island.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147
Cheney said he got his information from George Will!!!
Imagine that...George Will!!!!!!!!!
Underground Pirate @ 64:
First he had one of his minions leak the story to George Will and then he says that he read it in George Wills column. Same thing they did to Plame, the Iraq war and Iran nukes.
Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 61:
Joel Skousen is pretty nutty, [Deleted. Site Monitor]. Is it possible to get a source from a reputable newspaper, maybe the New York Times—or are they in on this conspiracy too. I am not disputing that speculators aren’t driving up prices, but to suggest the peak oil is a myth, especially when it is widely known oil is not renewable, is a tad extreme. Maybe it could be argued that we won’t get there as fast as experts tell us or that it is being blown out of proportion; however, I don’t understand in what way the overall theory is flawed.
"GOP lies." Now there's two words you don't hear too often. [wink]
I still have not seen this on the MSM. Does this surprise you?
Chris H. @ 66:
I gave you a link that if you watch it Williams will tell you that there is enough oil in that one discovery to last more than 200 years.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147
Why?
Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 37:
Amy Goodman MSM??
ROGLMAO
GOP Lies About Chinese Drilling For Oil Off Cuba
And that surprises you????? The GOP lies about everything. Who even listens to them anymore. Their party will soon be next to the Whigs.
Chris H. @ 66:
Sitemonitor:
I apologize if you were offended by my views of him. I just don’t find him a reputable source.
Chris H. @ 66:
This is a difficult question to answer but the fact that peak oil as we know it from propogandist from big oil is BS. here's alink to a Palast article that covers the idea that we can produce oil from many sources.
http://peakoil.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-palast-is-wrong.html
The central issue IMO is that oil is abiotic ( renewable)
"The Scientific evidence also flies in the face of the peak oil theory. Scientific research dating back over a hundred years, more recently updated in a Scientific Paper Published In 'Energia' suggests that oil is abiotic, not the product of long decayed biological matter. Oil, for better or for worse, is not a non-renewable resource. It, like coal, and natural gas, replenishes from sources within the mantle of earth"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm
hope this helps..my brain hurts......
Now, now, we all know there can't be oil under Cuba! If there were, the US would have invaded and 'liberated' the Cuban people (and their fossil fuels!) long ago.
The answer to high oil prices is lower demand.
The answer to more oil company profits is to increase supply when prices are rising.
Vernon Twinburger @ 79:
hehehe........we only heard about it 10 years ago and the technology to drill deep water wells is still new. I'm sure as the cuban people's demand for freedom increases and their oil becomes more accesible that "liberation" will become more attractive.
Comrade Rou @ 80:
Doesn't Cuba have WMD or something. Oh I know. Osama Bin Laden is there hiding. We'll have to go find them.
To set the record straight, I believe there is or will be peak oil lest anybody be confused about anything I have posted today.
Cheney's wet dream will be if we can invade Iran before his term ends. Mission Accomplished.
Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 78:
Of course they do. They've got biological weapons aimed at the US. Fidel or Raoul gives the order and a thousand rubber duckies can be launched carrying deadly bacteria . I don't know about Osama but they do have few Husseins there......yikes!
How's that embargo going?
Maybe if relations between US and Cuba had been "normalized" to some extent, US companies might have had a better chance at drilling there than China, if there really is anything on or near the island.
yeah and all these chinese oilmen bonking beautifull cuban doctors and nurses too on universal healthcare!!
Damm you evil commies!!
As Cheeney says .... SO?
Don't these idiots realize that it's 2008 and the Internet allows us to research everything. That we can see their lies 2 seconds after they are told on YouTube?
What a bunch a Marroons.
fastfeat @ 82:
There's a lot to be had in Cuba but our good friends in Miami have made sure you damn yanquis go through them first. You see Fidel nationalized certain assets in Cuba that once belonged to individuals who are now heavy contributors to the republican party. The Helms Burton Act of 1994 makes investment in property once owned by a cuban national with ties to the republican party impossible unless said national gets a juicy cut of the pie. It gets better, you don't even have to be a US citizen to force the US company to pay you hence Bacardi a bahamas based company can sue you if you try to buy one of their old distilleries from the cuban government. Followed to it's natural conclusion we need to make reparations to the british subjects whose land we seized during the american revolution.