Why the GOP REALLY Loves Bobby Jindal
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1961

Bill Clinton says Barack Obama must 'kiss my ass' for his support

[A senior Democrat who worked for Mr Clinton has revealed that he recently told friends Mr Obama could "kiss my ass" in return for his support.]

I agree with Nicole. We took our daughter to see it today, and it was excellent. At the same time I found it profoundly depressing. WHY do we look for TRUTH in a Children's Movie about fictional robots of the Future??? WHY do we depend on COMEDIANS to tell us the news? Our media are so completely blanded and branded and gutted that we have to depend on a Children's Movie to tell us that we're destroying the planet and mindless consumerism is evil Evil EVIL. We have to depend on the likes of John Stewart and Colbert Report to give us an idea of what's actually going on in the world of politics.

This is a completely PATHETIC set of circumstances. I just got back from Europe, and man - the USA is screwed. Germany is ramping up solar and wind like nobody's business. Same with Denmark. The USA is falling so far behind, that it makes Dmitri Orlov's "Reinventing Collapse" seem that much more likely.

And I lay a huge part of the blame with the media. If society is an organism, then the media is its mind, and right now, it's mind is preoccupied with BS.

Ironic isn't it that a movie condemning waste, sloth, corporate garbage (Junk food) is made by a corporation that makes all those things possible. Disney sure knows how to entertain.

Nicole, I kind of resent your comments about people and their TVs. They are searching but cannot find the honest media. Not everyone has a computer. Give them a break. My mother is soon to be 90 and my sister just turned 62 and just recently bought her 1st computer. Don't be so harsh on people that can't get real news.

I loved the movie. It was a great social satire, but it didn't lose focus of the touching love story and the Chaplin-like slapstick. The CGI was also highly-detailed and top notch. Go see it.

Nicole Belle @ 12:

Ron @ 9:

Nicole, I kind of resent your comments about people and their TVs. They are searching but cannot find the honest media. Not everyone has a computer. Give them a break. My mother is soon to be 90 and my sister just turned 62 and just recently bought her 1st computer. Don't be so harsh on people that can't get real news.

You resent my description of a children's movie characterization of what the human race will be like in 700 years?
I regress, I had to go back and read it again. I thought you were referring to the humans of our day. I didn't know you were referring to the movie.
Forgive me, Ron, but that sounds like you're trying to find things to be mad at me for.

Ron @ 13:

Nicole Belle @ 12:

Ron @ 9:

Nicole, I kind of resent your comments about people and their TVs. They are searching but cannot find the honest media. Not everyone has a computer. Give them a break. My mother is soon to be 90 and my sister just turned 62 and just recently bought her 1st computer. Don't be so harsh on people that can't get real news.

You resent my description of a children's movie characterization of what the human race will be like in 700 years?
I regress, I had to go back and read it again. I thought you were referring to the humans of our day. I didn't know you were referring to the movie.
Forgive me, Ron, but that sounds like you're trying to find things to be mad at me for.

I regress, I had to go back and read it again. I thought you were referring to the humans of our day. I didn't know you were referring to the movie.

From SNL: Gerald Ford - If he's so dumb, how come he's the president?

This is offtopic but...

I'm a (currently laid-off) Network Administrator, former PC Support Technician, have worked with just about all parts of network infrastructure, and have built hundreds of PCs, and I still find it really weird that the Amazon.com ad on this site is apparently able to read my browser's Amazon cookies and displays items that match, or are similar to, items that I've looked at or purchased on Amazon's website. Me no like that.

xoites defends Constitution @ 4:

Am i the only one fit to be tied after this week in Bizzaro World? We have a capitualting Congress, A President who is warning us about the dangers of solar energy who want to stick a drill bit in every pore in the planet, a Nordquist who should be in jail but is insted making racist comments about a Presidential candidate and noone cares, a chief of staff to the Vice President who, on television refuses to say torturing the child of a detainee is wrong or illegal and the press jumps all over a Senator for making a snide remark and ignores this shit entirely to top it all off Keith Olbermann softens his stance on FISA.

I woke up a eight days ago and the world imploded. What the f##k is up?

What is up is that we're in an era of a controlled mass media. I saw nothing on the TV to watch, so I tuned in BBC World News on Tvants and saw a documentary on the no-bid contracts benefiting Haliburton. We're in the same boat that the Soviet Union was in, state controlled media. The obfuscated differences is, with the Soviet Union, the government controlled everything, and hence controlled the media. Here, in the USA, corporations control the government, and with the assistance of their FCC proxy, control the media. In a capitalistic system, restraint of competition is the means of driving out competitors, and hence competing ideas. They know that “an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will prevail” - a marketplace where there is a “wide diversity of viewpoints from a multiplicity of sources" facilitates democracy, as pointed out by the courts. On Feb 20, 2003, the FCC changed the rules for unbundled network elements (UNE) which resulted in less competition in internet provisioning. Now we have a duopoly between cable and dsl. Now, we see an introduction to bandwidth constraints being introduced by the cables and the dsl providers. I checked the AT&T uverse channel lineup - there is no news sources other then the FCC regulated propagandists.

The corporations that run this country know that if they can control what you see and hear, that they can control what you think and do, and vote. And, you can be sure that your corporate controlled Republicans and Democrats want to keep your political choices between a choice between bad or worse.

I hope some nerd comes up with some kind of peer to peer wireless (WI_FI) network to get around the constraints on the internet that the government is cooking up. They know that peer to peer television isn't mainstream yet, but that cat is slowly is getting out of the bag. (TVANTS, SOPCAST, TVU).

StirFry @ 22:

Yeah, I thought it was kind of strange that C&L had an ad for Menocu Buttplugs . I guess I should clear my cache. (rimshot!)

Ha ha! Thanks for that!

But the Administration's greatest contribution to the rising oil prices is its steady stream of threats to attack Iran if it does not back down on the nuclear issue. The Iranians have made it plain that they would retaliate by attempting to block the flow of Gulf oil and otherwise cause turmoil in the energy market. Most analysts assume, therefore, that an encounter will produce a global oil shortage and prices well over $200 per barrel. It is not surprising, then, that every threat by Bush/Cheney (or their counterparts in Israel) has triggered a sharp rise in prices. This is where speculators enter the picture. Believing that a US-Iranian clash is at least 50 percent likely, some investors are buying futures in oil at $140, $150 or more per barrel, thinking they'll make a killing if there's an attack and prices zoom over $200.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=61437&sectionid=351020201

four bases built on iran-iraqi border
israel attacks were in and obama could be out

Terry Cunningham @ 19:

This is offtopic but...

I'm a (currently laid-off) Network Administrator, former PC Support Technician, have worked with just about all parts of network infrastructure, and have built hundreds of PCs, and I still find it really weird that the Amazon.com ad on this site is apparently able to read my browser's Amazon cookies and displays items that match, or are similar to, items that I've looked at or purchased on Amazon's website. Me no like that.

find and delete the amazon cookies with your browser's controls.
if your browser has filtering for cookies, you might specify that no amazon cookies are kept.

karl @ 27:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=61437&sectionid=351020201

four bases built on iran-iraqi border
israel attacks were in and obama could be out

coming soon to a theatre near iran, eh?

StirFry @ 30:

xoites defends Constitution @ 4:

Am i the only one fit to be tied after this week in Bizzaro World? We have a capitualting Congress, A President who is warning us about the dangers of solar energy who want to stick a drill bit in every pore in the planet, a Nordquist who should be in jail but is insted making racist comments about a Presidential candidate and noone cares, a chief of staff to the Vice President who, on television refuses to say torturing the child of a detainee is wrong or illegal and the press jumps all over a Senator for making a snide remark and ignores this shit entirely to top it all off Keith Olbermann softens his stance on FISA.

I woke up a eight days ago and the world imploded. What the fuck is up?

I wish more people would wake up . That's part of the problem.

six months and twentytwo days to go. the booshwatch continues...

I saw Sweeney Todd last night. there are a few people I'd like send to the barber.

pixar may be the only great studio currently in existence

and im waiting for the wingnuts to start attacking the movie

this would make them totally out of touch, as it should break all records for a summer movie

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 35:

I saw Sweeney Todd last night. there are a few people I'd like send to the barber.

Hey Cointel, is that movie any good? I'm curious about it but my wife thinks it's a musical and doesn't really want to see it. I've heard about it, and what I've heard is that it's "Strange".

mudshark @ 39:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 35:

I saw Sweeney Todd last night. there are a few people I'd like send to the barber.

Hey Cointel, is that movie any good? I'm curious about it but my wife thinks it's a musical and doesn't really want to see it. I've heard about it, and what I've heard is that it's "Strange".

I got me some Sweeney Todd once, but I'm ambidextrous so it just seemed like the same ol same ol....

;-

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 37:

pixar may be the only great studio currently in existence

and im waiting for the wingnuts to start attacking the movie

this would make them totally out of touch, as it should break all records for a summer movie

Pixar makes beautiful films. Ratatouille was a masterpiece in every aspect.
As for wingnuts, they won't even watch it. They'll hear about the plot and the message and line up like sheep.

NoBuddy @ 21:

xoites defends Constitution @ 4:

Am i the only one fit to be tied after this week in Bizzaro World? We have a capitualting Congress, A President who is warning us about the dangers of solar energy who want to stick a drill bit in every pore in the planet, a Nordquist who should be in jail but is insted making racist comments about a Presidential candidate and noone cares, a chief of staff to the Vice President who, on television refuses to say torturing the child of a detainee is wrong or illegal and the press jumps all over a Senator for making a snide remark and ignores this shit entirely to top it all off Keith Olbermann softens his stance on FISA.

I woke up a eight days ago and the world imploded. What the f##k is up?

What is up is that we're in an era of a controlled mass media. I saw nothing on the TV to watch, so I tuned in BBC World News on Tvants and saw a documentary on the no-bid contracts benefiting Haliburton. We're in the same boat that the Soviet Union was in, state controlled media. The obfuscated differences is, with the Soviet Union, the government controlled everything, and hence controlled the media. Here, in the USA, corporations control the government, and with the assistance of their FCC proxy, control the media. In a capitalistic system, restraint of competition is the means of driving out competitors, and hence competing ideas. They know that “an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will prevail” - a marketplace where there is a “wide diversity of viewpoints from a multiplicity of sources" facilitates democracy, as pointed out by the courts. On Feb 20, 2003, the FCC changed the rules for unbundled network elements (UNE) which resulted in less competition in internet provisioning. Now we have a duopoly between cable and dsl. Now, we see an introduction to bandwidth constraints being introduced by the cables and the dsl providers. I checked the AT&T uverse channel lineup - there is no news sources other then the FCC regulated propagandists.

The corporations that run this country know that if they can control what you see and hear, that they can control what you think and do, and vote. And, you can be sure that your corporate controlled Republicans and Democrats want to keep your political choices between a choice between bad or worse.

I hope some nerd comes up with some kind of peer to peer wireless (WI_FI) network to get around the constraints on the internet that the government is cooking up. They know that peer to peer television isn't mainstream yet, but that cat is slowly is getting out of the bag. (TVANTS, SOPCAST, TVU).

Thank you, that was very interesting. Guess I have some research to do!

For all you future (and past) "Hussainiacs" -

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/us/politics/29hussein.html?partner=rss...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/us/politics/29hussein.html?partner=rss...

I vividly remember to this day an old Mad Magazine cartoon, possibly as old as from the early sixties, that portrayed Americans as beach ball shaped, tiny limbed creatures being overcome by skinny Chinese army men.

"But ultimately Condi had the President's ear and persuaded him that his legacy would be stronger if they reached a deal with Pyongyang," said a Pentagon adviser who was briefed on the battle."

Wrong on how many levels?

speaking for the bush administration... i think WALL-E was a little gay while pandering to the female and black audiance

WE ALL LOVE A LITTLE BUSH @ 55:

speaking for the bush administration... i think WALL-E was a little gay while pandering to the female and black audiance

...perhaps gay in the narcissistic sense, i.e. "He's in love with a man - himself." But unless the slurpies featured were pink YooHoo not sure 'bout the black women...

;-}

Vman @ 58:

Aaron Brown @ 3:

Bill Clinton says Barack Obama must 'kiss my ass' for his support

[A senior Democrat who worked for Mr Clinton has revealed that he recently told friends Mr Obama could "kiss my ass" in return for his support.]

Bill "blowjob" Clinton can kiss my fuckin' ass. He blew it (no pun intended) for all of us by not keeping his Lewinsky shit under wraps. What a fucking asshole. How could he have not weighed the odds and known that, if he lost, i.e. got found out, how totally screwed up (really, no pun) the Democratic party would be? He handed us eight years of hell on a plate, all for a few unprotected, in the global sense, quickies. That was a major league fuck-up. He had it goin' on, gambled, and the rest of us might as well have been swallowing. Fuckitty fuck fuck. Let him kiss Al Gore's ass.

If only Monica would have swallowed his pride...

Hittin’ the road, Jack,”and I ain’t comin’ back no more no more no more no more”…

“Last word, freak.” - Melvin Udall

out

;-}

Breaking: McCain's California home in tax default; haven't paid taxes in four years

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Newsweek is set to publish a highly embarrassing report on Sen. John McCain, revealing that the McCains have failed to pay taxes on their beach-front home in La Jolla, California, for the last four years and are currently in default, The Huffington Post has learned.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

If the US mistreatment of "enemy combatants" hasn't been "torture" ..

Then the Vietnamese mistreatment of McCain cannot be called "torture" ..

The GOP can't have it both ways, much as they'd expect to ..

Kinda sober Christopher Hitchens's take on the presidential candidates. "If the GOP Were a Dog, It Should Be Shot" ...and some other hogwash about the Clintons and Obama.

It's entertaining just to watch Michelle Cottle squirm in her seat while Hitchens spews.

At least 40 years ago it was clear to environmental activists that Americans can't go on being greedy, insensitive, high-maintenance consumers, out-of-touch with the natural world.

It's a real pity the general population is only beginning to get the message.

Forty years ago was the time to switch to alternative energy, local foods, and a lighter footprint. The study "Limits To Growth" laid out the alternatives - radically reduce industrial output & cut population growth immediately (circa 1970) in hopes of stabilizing the world population around 8-10 billion, or face an enormous die-off resulting in a stable world population of 3-4 billion.

By following the path of rampant consumerism Americans chose the second choice, and now the scramble has begun for the few seats in the lifeboat.

Bon voyage!

MountainMan23 @ 69:

At least 40 years ago it was clear to environmental activists that Americans can't go on being greedy, insensitive, high-maintenance consumers, out-of-touch with the natural world.

It's a real pity the general population is only beginning to get the message.

Forty years ago was the time to switch to alternative energy, local foods, and a lighter footprint. The study "Limits To Growth" laid out the alternatives - radically reduce industrial output & cut population growth immediately (circa 1970) in hopes of stabilizing the world population around 8-10 billion, or face an enormous die-off resulting in a stable world population of 3-4 billion.

By following the path of rampant consumerism Americans chose the second choice, and now the scramble has begun for the few seats in the lifeboat.

Bon voyage!

To tie the two discussions in this thread together. I know quite a few indie animators who run their studios on solar power. Pixar doesn't.

karl @ 74 --

I'm convinced it's gonna get a whole lot worse than most people are willing to accept at this time.

The Corporatists who are running the show read Malthus in the late 1800's and have been planning on being the few in the lifeboat when the proverbial shit hits the rotating blades .. along about now.

They've got their gated communities, bodyguards, access to water, food, oil, medical care.

But it just may be those of us who live close to the land and know how to cooperate who will make it through the coming hard times better than the well-heeled high maintenance crowd.

It's the high maintenance crowd without the big bank accounts who will have the hardest time - giving up their addictions and learning to cope without sucking at the corporate tit. But that's precisely the crowd that followed the Consumerist Path that's created a lot of the problem. And that's precisely the crowd that's gonna have to find another way to live - simply.

Look for little plastic cubes of rubbish soon in your kid's Happy Meals. Collect them all! Six different colors! Then throw them away.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 18:

xoites defends Constitution @ 4:

Am i the only one fit to be tied after this week in Bizzaro World? We have a capitualting Congress, A President who is warning us about the dangers of solar energy who want to stick a drill bit in every pore in the planet, a Nordquist who should be in jail but is insted making racist comments about a Presidential candidate and noone cares, a chief of staff to the Vice President who, on television refuses to say torturing the child of a detainee is wrong or illegal and the press jumps all over a Senator for making a snide remark and ignores this shit entirely to top it all off Keith Olbermann softens his stance on FISA.

I woke up a eight days ago and the world imploded. What the fuck is up?

six months and twentythree days till the end of boosh.

lets party like its 1999 :)
gonna be a lot of hungover but happy people on the 6th

i loved the movie. and it takes a lot for me to love a cg-animated feature.

but my favorite part of all was at the very end of the closing credits: right after they show the disney logo with the sparkly castle, they then show the "Buy 'n Large" logo (with accompanying jingle) that so clearly serves as the warning metaphor against walmart-style monopolization. made me so happy that they did that.

eric @ 63:

Breaking: McCain's California home in tax default; haven't paid taxes in four years

Advertisements [?]
Newsweek is set to publish a highly embarrassing report on Sen. John McCain, revealing that the McCains have failed to pay taxes on their beach-front home in La Jolla, California, for the last four years and are currently in default, The Huffington Post has learned.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6424074

either the Huffpo page was removed or the link is bad

69 MountainMan23 Says: At least 40 years ago it was clear to environmental activists that Americans can’t go on being greedy, insensitive, high-maintenance consumers, out-of-touch with the natural world.

It’s a real pity the general population is only beginning to get the message.

Forty years ago was the time to switch to alternative energy, local foods, and a lighter footprint. The study “Limits To Growth” laid out the alternatives - radically reduce industrial output & cut population growth immediately (circa 1970) in hopes of stabilizing the world population around 8-10 billion, or face an enormous die-off resulting in a stable world population of 3-4 billion.

By following the path of rampant consumerism Americans chose the second choice, and now the scramble has begun for the few seats in the lifeboat.

Bon voyage!
===================================

MountainMan is wise. I was a wee bit-of-a-lad back then, and when I used to talk about such things, the "grown ups" told me, "there has to be a little dirt for prosperity. It's nothing to worry about."

My teachers were all "hippies" (well, most of them) so we talked about global warming and overpopulation in class. (Canada) I'm sure many of them smoked pot. They were great teachers too; very enlightening and they knew what was going on in the world. I learned so many cool things from them.

I bet the Chinese whose schools collapsed in recent earthquake had this problem:

http://cbs4.com/local/implosion.coral.gables.2.759197.html

Building in Coral Gables, FL fails to implode because it was too well built.

I read this piece in the today's London Telegraph and was appalled at the possibility that Bill Clinton would actively seek Obama's loss to McCain. I clipped some of the article and added some other comments here....http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/06/i-meanhe-couldn-wouldn.html

Tagg @ 88:

I read this piece in the today's London Telegraph and was appalled at the possibility that Bill Clinton would actively seek Obama's loss to McCain. I clipped some of the article and added some other comments here....http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/06/i-meanhe-couldn-wouldn.html

Then you must have missed the denial-fest that was Hillary's excruciating road to a 'concession'. Hillary is nowhere near as virulent and vengeful as Bill. But then again, bringing up assassination and Barack together might qualify as ruthless, also.

Terry Cunningham @ 42:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 29:

Terry Cunningham @ 19:

This is offtopic but...

I'm a (currently laid-off) Network Administrator, former PC Support Technician, have worked with just about all parts of network infrastructure, and have built hundreds of PCs, and I still find it really weird that the Amazon.com ad on this site is apparently able to read my browser's Amazon cookies and displays items that match, or are similar to, items that I've looked at or purchased on Amazon's website. Me no like that.

find and delete the amazon cookies with your browser's controls.
if your browser has filtering for cookies, you might specify that no amazon cookies are kept.

CoIntelPro, thanks for the reply. I appreciate the suggestions (and already knew that I could clear the cookies), but they don't really address my general disdain for invasive Internet ads. I'm NOT bashing C&L in any way, and I'm not even lodging a complaint against the ad. I just hate technology sometimes and wanted to vent.

I agree with you. I hope the advice can help someone else in any case. The controls in IE11 and Firefox3 affer hope. you need patience, however. Not everyone is like you and me. I'm a bit of a tech freak myself. By vocation and avocation,

(stacks of garbage reach as high as the skyscrapers)

So they filmed it in Naples, Italy then?

Wonderful Movie, and I loved the themes in it too!!

Saw the movie this weekend. It is nothing short of beautiful. The animation and cinematic creativity have never been surpassed.

Wall-e reminded me of a cross between Charlie Chaplin and Woody Allen (the nervous, shaky, self doubting one).

In short I was moved to tears twice and my son thought it was a hoot. One audience two messages. Nice film making.

In short a NPR reviewer said something like "I envy all of you your first view of this movie will be unforgettable".

Go see it and if you are an adult bring a tissue.

Then go dance.