When Villagers Attack....
By John Amato Sunday Jun 29, 2008 5:00pmThe media should start their own McCain Defense PAC to help John McCain. They do it every chance they get. Maybe Joe Klein can be the chairman of the board. Where were all these media trolls and Villagers when John Kerry was swiftboated for winning medals in Vietnam? They sure didn't mind those very real attacks against his service.
Wesley Clark on Face the Nation: CNN accuses Clark of “Swiftboating”
Fox's Henneberg deceptively cropped Clark interview.
Duncan is absolutely correct...
"Gonna be a long election season."








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MSM knows where their bread gets buttered.
FUCK the GOP!!!!
There's a price to pay for bullshit
Even the Theater of the Absurd must have a floor show and some razzle dazzle to keep the prols interested.
This Scene 2 Act 2, where the villagers chase the monster into the abandoned castle, carrying torches and pitchforks.
The monster is the TRUTH about John McCain, the villagers are the MsM, the torches and pitchforks are the articles and sound
bites, the castle is the political constructed created by the military industrial complex and it's minions.
I say Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war, and shit!!
I've heard many MSM figures use "swiftboat" in the past week, ignoring a crucial element: the charges are false. There's also the element of the attacking group being an astroturf organization. Everything Clark said was true.
The GOP are such a pack of crybabies. Gack!
WEENIES!!!
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Gonna beIt's already been a long filthy election season.”FIFY, Duncan
Small comment, FWIW.
Served in Viet Nam. Took some hits, nothing serious.
Wanted to sleep in a closet with a gun for 2 years after.
My point: Never saw anyone have film taken of him, as Kerry did.
Never accepted my bronze star medal, so never had to throw it over the wall.
Suggestion: Bush didn't beat Kerry in 2004 because of swiftboating. Kerry failed as a candidate.
Another media created story. It began this morning and has been snowballing all day. They all seemed to have missed what Gen. Clark said about how he honors McCain's military service. Then to top this whole mess off, McCain trots out one of the original swift boaters to defend him.
Well, we always knew that it would be Obama vs McCain/ProfitMedia.
Hey little pepul. They're only holy-grams. (Firesigne theatre)
Expect the wierd to be considered normal. It already is. "I'm only lying to tell the "real" truth".
Don't believe me?, ask Colin Powell.
VietVet8666 @ 8:
Massive election fraud in Ohio, documented, proven, and not acted on.
Kerry sucked, so did Ohio!
Clark isnt a liberal anyway...
VietVet8666 @ 8:
No disrespect, but Bush didn't beat Kerry, period.
marko @ 12:
Right on!
VietVet8666 @ 15:
There we go!
+1.
Ok, let me be frank. These media types feel insecurely wimpy, and they think that it adds to their manhood by being associated with Republicans. This phenomenon is similar to how many wimpy types claim to like Hemingway, and eschew, e.g., Camus. That's why they gave Bush a pass on his numerous character flaws in 2000 and 2004, and that's why they give McCain a pass this time around. And women do this, too. Consider Ann Coulter, who even encourages "manly-manly" behavior. Thoughts, anyone? (I had to be brief, because I had to drive my son someplace.)
Bonkers Fist Jab @ 14:
Bonkers,
Agree completely with you, in particular, because of the vote stealing and fraud in Ohio in 2004.
Travesty Alert:
Bush will speak at Monticello on July 4th. What would Thomas Jefferson's ghost say?
My is guess is he would be plenty mad.
Call the private Foundation that manages Monticello at 434 984-9822 and hit zero to comment. or e-mail at monticello.org
jeez... never thought i'd hear it from rachel, but she just cropped the schieffer/clark exchange to only clark's response... she's doing the 'race' show now... was she obliged?
oh my!
My question is - when McCain is elected - who is actually going to be President? Certainly not this doddering old man who is trotted out and repeats as much as he can remember of what he was told to say. So who is pulling the strings?
Jersey Jon @ 17:
That doesn't explain the Log Cabin Republicans who apparently adore being told they're not fit to serve in the Military and although rich - don't mind being second class citizens.
Restore the Constitution @ 19:
called and emailed
missmarple @ 21:
It would be very much like the Reagan administration, a doddering old fool manipulated by a committee of neocons and lobbyists.
Obama caved and threw him under the bus.
It really sucks now that Obama didn't support him!
Restore the Constitution @ 19:
Last year was the saddest Fourth I can recall because Bush had conveniently commuted Libby's sentence just days before the holiday. No one in the press will be bringing that up.
With all due respect, I think all of the psychological analysis of the MSM and why they are so beholden to the GOP goes a little to far. Sure, that's where most of their paychecks come from, but the explanation for their big circle jerk today over Clark's comments, as well as Obama's recent "shift" toward the center (I don't think it's a shift at all, but that's an argument for another thread) is much simpler. I mean come on, Occam's Razor, people!
Axiom: The goal of the MSM is to produce the highest ratings possible.
Premise: The closer the presidential race is, the more the uninformed masses tune in to the MSM to tell them what to think.
Result: Cherry picking of "news" items from the MSM in order to artificially influence the "closeness" of the election.
It's a simple enough formula. We saw it all through the primaries. When it looked like Barack Obama had become unstoppable, the MSM started pounding Rev. Wright 24/7. When Hillary looked to be pulling too far ahead, we heard a few news cycles of the trumped up Bosnia trip.
All of these new distractions are just v2.0: General Election Edition. The MSM saw Obama making a surge in the polls, so they kick up some dirt on his end of the court. Now the only telling thing will be what they will do when the polls start swinging back McCain's way. Whatever the case, the MSM wants this race as close as possible for as long as possible. Period.*
* - Except for Faux News, who are a bunch of partisan hacks.
Bonkers Fist Jab @ 6:
Limbaugh has made a career of being a whiney, pissy, crybaby, spoiled brat.
Guess we can add "liberal media" to the oxymoron hall of fame....right next to "military intelligence."
Anyway, Clark has been hung out to dry by Obama. Not the first person to be quickly dismissed by Barrack if it serves his political purposes. This is becoming a disturbing pattern of behavior.
Restore the Constitution @ 19:
Called. Why would Bush, who refers to the Constitution as "that damned piece of paper", want to...oh hell,Bizarro World, right?
katy @ 20:
More info please, what does she say?
When did Clark "Swiftboat" McCain, you stupid simpering fuckpoles?
God, if we're just going to make stuff up, I want to know why McCain strangles kittens on a special secret kitten-strangling ranch he had set up.
The Truth Hurts @ 30:
Oh, you can find liberal media, but it is practically underground at this stage of our democacy.
The big problem is that we are more willing consumers than we are patriots for our own cause.
Clark argues that merely having been served in wartime and having been a POW do not, by themselves, qualify one to make foreign policy decisions, and Schieffer responds, "Really?!" He seemed honestly stunned. Notwithstanding the shameless political machinations -- Republicans and their pseudo-journalist babblers will literally say anything they think will help them win an election -- there is something really strange about the response to Clark's argument.
Yes, Swiftboating a Democrat means lying about him, while Swiftboating a Republican means honestly criticizing him. But the media's defense of McCain -- and failure to defend Kerry -- both seem to stem from an actual conviction that "war hero" status really is a great thing for a candidate to have on his resume. Not for political reasons (it's obviously helpful from a strategist's point of view), but because it genuinely means he's qualified to make executive decisions about war and peace.
It's perversely fascinating that the original Swiftboaters didn't just say, "Yeah, Kerry's a war hero. So what?" Instead, they had to lie, and say that he's not actually a war hero in real life. True or false, it was determined to be the better line of attack. Might the media have leaped to Kerry's defense had they tried the honest (and argumentatively valid) attack? Perhaps not, but sometimes I wonder.
Schieffer seemed like he was truly shocked at the very idea that merely having served in a war does not make one qualified to be the president. Truly shocked. I have a feeling a lot of other people were honestly shocked as well. It appears to be one of those "naked emperor" notions that we're not allowed to question.
Just one more clear example of how this propaganda network operates. Cut and paste...take it out of context.....take a snippet of a line, or a gesture..and they have more ammo for their propaganda spewing.
Those scum suckers are disgusting creatures. Do they think they are "patriots" or "lying sacks of shit"? I wonder.
Karen @ #35:
See my post #66--Wesley Clark on Face the Nation........Veterans have faired poorly in the last 4 Presidential elections.
Military service does not seem to help a candidate.
I stopped watching the Schieffer clip when he choked on Clark's assertion that "getting shot down" isn't a qualification for Presidency.
sheeeeeesh!
I've posted this before (and had it deleted once for being off topic, but it was so fresh in my mind I had to say it):
If the "enhanced interrogation techniques" the US has been using on "enemy combatants" are not "torture" ..
Then John McCain was NOT TORTURED by the Vietnamese when he was a POW ..
Now who has the testicular fortitude to say THAT ?
I'm kind of tired of the "villager" moniker.
Radically Moderate @ 37:
Certainly, status as a veteran does not guarantee an election win. I hardly think it's a disadvantage, though. As you noted, Gore did not actually lose to Bush. Arguably, neither did Kerry.
In any case, what really fascinates me is the seemingly genuine conviction among so many in the media that "war hero" status actually does qualify a candidate for the job he seeks. It is a facially absurd notion.
"Fox’s Henneberg deceptively cropped Clark interview."
So did Fox's Laura Ingraham this evening on her Fox show, "Just In".
When John Soltz of Votevets.org tried to mention what Clark said before the bit of carefully selected video clip she aired, Ingraham went ballastic on him. She wasn't going to allow him to point out her dishonesty.
spell check - went ballistic
Loonie @ 33:
Holy crap when he start doing this? I completely believe it because I read it on the Internet!
I bet he makes that botoxed barbie wife of his watch while he keeps repeating "I do this because you are a c*nt".
BTW back on subject Clark did NOT attack McCain's patriotism. That is the biggest crock of shit I have heard in quite some time.
You seem to forget Clark is a war criminal. Bill Clinton gave him an illegal order to bomb Serbian cities, and he followed that order.
You seem to forget that Obama is part of the "club", his ivy league education and meteoric rise have been planned, his image groomed, his course plotted, and his place reserved.
You seem to forget for the past 2 weeks Obama has been telling the American people to go fuck themselves, oh and to give him money.
You seem to forget that the Presidential election is the "Theater of the Absurd" a highly orchestrated and professionally choreographed passion play where the "manufacturers of consent and opinion" allow us the mirage of choice.
You seem to forget that the outcome of this election was formulated years ago.
You seem to forget that yes, the progressive netroots movement can influence small time elctions, but when it comes to the "big circus", we don't exist, except as sideshow clowns for the kids to throw popcorn at.
Now I want you to remember these wonderful and glowing days of summer. Cool breezes and light showers and birds and beaches. Because these are the salad days. In a few years, before I die, we will see civil war, hunger, sorrow, pain and death like can only be imagined.
Not an apocalypse but a disintegration, not a cataclysm but a slow long decent into nothingness.
And they will blame it on a black man.
Is it a surprise that the MSM has a love fest going with McCain? They did it for Bush, not once but twice! The MSM is mostly responsible for shaping and guiding probably 50% of the voters of this country. It is a damn shame that the written and televised media is letting McCain go scott free on his flip-flops, a damn shame they are not questioning his less than accurate statements. The media did it before and look at the condition of the country after 8 years. I honestly thought the media had a responsibility to inform the public, what a shame to realize the media is actually taking advantage of the public by misguiding and misleading them.
MSM = Mewling Shit-Mouthers
zakly
The various and sundry members of the Press Corpse are all still dutifully lined up and eagerly awaiting their turn to service the McCawk so that he will anoint them with his pearls of uhmm...wisdom (yeah)
Karen @ 35:
Agreed, McC*nt is the MSMs dream warrior candidate,
If John Rambo can shed his zimmer frame and rip peoples throats out while juggling his bus pass and 'meals on wheels' vouchers plus a .50,
what could 12 years his senior McNasty do when hes angry, turn green and topple tall buildings !!?
We have geriatric MSM owners and execs fondly living in a 35 year old dream world where their heroes of past decades are the titans of today (in their minds)
Duck and cover kids. The 4th estate is bound to elect McGramps. Try watching the national news, (if you haven't eaten recently).
will someone please tell me who the "villagers" are? Is it just the mainstream media?
It looks like the new third rail in politics is John McCain's military and senate service to his country. Lets not forgot how the MSM tripped over themselves rushing to defend Johnny's honor when the NYT said Johnny might have banged a lobbyist. Of course the MSM never did defend Kerry quite the same way or with that much sincerity. No the MSM bought the lies and never searched for the truth. Now Johnny has the gall to have swift boat trash defend him against Gen Clark. Gee I guess Gen Clark has a point about McLame (the media darlings) judgment
No matter how much truth comes out on the desperate and corrupt Reslugs they will habitually lie, flip-flop and twist the truth as they have through the ages.
Well if you haven't noticed. Its mostly the same press that continuously praise Rove as some guru mastermind genious. The same that were and most still are in deep love with George Bush but now are a bit skittish to openly admit it (at least blatantly) that is.
There is two ways to do this go after the reporters and the ad people who support the MSM, look at ABC it has really taken a big hit, and so has Faux Noise their rating is down, people are listing to us we just got keep up the hard work.
I do disagree with Gen. Clark on one statement. He said "He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war....."
Is it me or has the term 'hero' been downgraded? I used to always believe, actually still do, that to be a hero you must have done something 'heroic' and I don't see what McCain has done to warrant that title.
He finished near the bottom in the Naval Academy (894th of 899), destroyed several aircraft before he was involved in the disaster of the USS Forrestal. His capture was something that happened to him, not something he did. That is not an heroic act. After his return to the US from Vietnam he opted out of his marriage preferring someone rich over someone who had faithfully waited for his return, then entered into politics.
As a lawmaker I have doubts about his knowledge of the subject, since he does not seem to even understand what the function of the SCOTUS is. He said: " .... Assured of lifetime tenures, these judges show little regard for the authority of the president, the congress and the states. They display even less interest in the will of the people. and the only remedy available to any of us is to find, nominate and confirm better judges"
Does McCain not know that the sole purpose of the Justices is to validate a law as to its constitutionality, regardless of presidential and public opinion?
'Hero' should be reserved for those who by their own choice have done something very much beyond the ordinary.
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