The Media loves to read anti-Obama pieces on the air
By John Amato Wednesday Jul 02, 2008 4:01pm 
I've noticed a disturbing trend for a while now. Whenever a Conservative or MSM columnist writes an anti-Obama piece, it's immediately read to TV audiences as if it's conventional wisdom. There was the David Brooks piece on the two Obama's. Then we had a Dan Baltz column read on air that attacked both Obama and McCain, but of course only the negative Obama segment appeared. David Broder had one of his too and now of all things a WSJ op-ed that was read on Hardball yesterday. (It ran on a few shows yesterday)
You would never make the mistake of thinking that the WSJ wouldn't have an agenda, would you? It wouldn't be so disturbing if they ever read anti-McCain position papers, but magically they never appear.
It would be even more interesting to see a negative McCain piece written by a liberal columnist read on all the TV shows for a change. Fat chance that will ever happen. And I don't mean some screed that the Villagers then would attack . MoDo usually has one of her sick pieces read almost every week.
Let's keep track of this, shall we?
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John,
Did you voice these same concerns when ALL the media ripped Hillary apart 24/7 with their misogynist tone and Clinton hate, and oddly didn't touch Obama at all, never vetting who the guy REALLY is?
ariuszme Says: John,
Did you voice these same concerns when ALL the media ripped Hillary apart 24/7 with their misogynist tone and Clinton hate, and oddly didn’t touch Obama at all, never vetting who the guy REALLY is?---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The constant whining about poor Hillary makes it sound as if she didn't run a shoddy campaign and beat herself. Get over that stuff. The last thing we needed was a whining woman in the White House. That is for her whining, sore loser supporters. Get on board or just go get a life.
So as Obama begins making headway on winning over centrists and independants, we learn that the powers that be will pull out all stops to prop up McBane and knock down Obama. Meanwhile, the left is busy sawing away at Obama's ankles because he's not progressive enough.
Thus the snatching defeat from the jaws of victory begins.
Today ought to have been a goldmine for McCain editorials after his campaign shake-up. For the most part, all I've seen is video of McCain saying that it was "not a big change" but not one telepundit challenged that obvious lie. He didn't hire a new chauffeur. How can you remove your campaign manager and replace him with operatives of Karl Rove and pretend that it's no big deal?
John McCain - NOPE
Yes. Thank You. John.
ariuszme @ 1:
What pathetic self-pity saturated lie. ALL media ripped Hillary and NO one touched Obama? You are so full of shit! I am so glad you people lost!
The conservatives should be attacking Sen. Obama for his position of promoting unconstitutional legislation allowing the executive branch to spy on its citizens.
Keeping track -- good idea! Start with how the BBQ Media slice'n'dice Obama's remarks today here in Fargo about refiniing his Iraq policy based on consulting with military experts on the ground there. No policy change says Obama--reiterating: we must be as careful getting out as careless getting in.
What, the McCainiacs want Obama to Deciderate by reading his own entrails like you-know-who does?
Corporate media whore.
How come no mention of Obama's change of plans regarding Iraq on this blog today?
ariuszme @ 1:
You sorry fucking anarchist loser! Still can't accept the fact that DEMOCRACY spoke and sent Hillary home.
There are attacks on Obama in several directions almost daily on WashingtonJournal, CSpan, where the usual barrage of callers repeats talking points. Also, the host/hostess often reads out of newspapers that make negative remarks. Of course, the same also occurs wrt McSame.
Left&Left @ 6:
Obama Might ‘Refine’ Iraq Timeline
Hope. Change.
And Refine.
He doesn't deserve any criticism at all.
Come on. I mean, really, come on. Who here doesn't know that corporate controlled or "mainstream" media isn't PROPAGANDA. Welcome to the Fascist States of Amerika.
Left&Left @ 11:
Explain the difference between Obama and Clinton.
I dare you.
Again..why pay attention to Brooks et al? They are never going to speak well of a Democrat and so are of no value to intelligent discourse. Brooks can make a fool of himself with goofy salad bar comments but expects to walk away from it while he holds others feet to the fire for words they have never spoken. Why every time one of these predictable guys utters his predictable utterances do folks jump up and down about it? Brooks is going to say nothing good of Democrats tomorrow and next year and for the next decade. He is going to champion the most incompetent of Republicans over the same time frame. So why the fuss?
Actually what Obama is doing lately is totally fucking disgusting...
All he had to do was keep doing what he did to Win the primary.. and now he is doing the exact opposite...
Instead of being an agent of change.. he is one of more of the same...
The one thing that will change perhaps via this election and his doomed to fail presidency.. Is to show the teeming MORONS in this country .. who really controls this country.
Its not you... and its not me... Nor is it Barack Obama... Who is already becoming more of an embarrassment to the left then Kerry was and is.
How do these people go from Fighting for US and Truth... to the hallowed out shells of shit they are now??..
It is because the real powers behind the scene give the orders...
Yeah yeah.. I know .. put on your Tin Foil hats.. right you stupid fucks??
Make no mention of how I have been correct for years...
dennis @ 13:
I never said that Obama doesn't deserve criticism and you know that Dennis. Check my last five posts on FISA and you'll read that I haven't been happy at all with the Senator. But for that lying moron at post #1 to have the gall to say ALL media attacked Hillary and NO one came after Obama( Rev Wright, bitter comments, Michelle Obama, Resko, etc.) is a world class lie on the Bush, Cheney, Rice level.
mudshark @ 15:
Obama won the primary and sent Hillary's ass back to NY.
ariuszme @ 1:
ariuszme @ 1:
Yes, I attacked the media when they took that stance. I ripped Russert, Todd, Matthews, FOX, CNN...Search my site. A CNN dude apologized on air after he said it was OK to call women a "bitch" when they deserved it.
complain about distractions and not talking about the issues, but you create the distractions
Left&Left @ 19:
Nice way to skirt the question Left. Is that it? Is that all you got? lol.
You can't answer the question, can you?
AHHahahahahahahahahahaha!
Obama is doing great, and he is going to win.
It is going to be a great day when Bush leaves office and Obama steps in.
Basically, we're looking at a Democratic Congress passing legislation and Obama signing them.
If Obama accomplishes nothing else, this will be an overwhelming positive for America. If he manages to accomplish anything beyond this, so much the better.
Richard @ 16:
I wrote this because it's the Villagers that respond to Brooks unfairly.
Sure they do because they're all Bushiva prostitutes.
The difference between Obama and Hillary is this:
Hillary says, "You need someone like me to solve your problems."
Obama says, "Get off your ass, get organized and solve your own problems."
Other than that, their platforms are almost the same. But, Obama's message has more potential.
David @ 10:
Excellent point. Obama's latest stance, unfortunately, should come as no surprise as he tries his best to appeal to that elusive middle in order to gain the most votes. At that press conference today, Obama now says that he wishes to reserve the right of how many brigades to bring home each month, claiming that it now depends upon conditions on the ground. That position is the last thing that the troops wish to hear, as they in all likelihood want the politicians, even the alleged antiwar politicians, to remove them from that abattoir as quickly and as rapidly as possible. But with Obama seemingly vacillating on every issue, that hope now seems ready to be dashed upon the rocks of despair. the hope is that liberals the troops should finally realize is that Obama appears to be selling them out instead of bring the troops OUT post haste.
BigT @ 26:
That's about the way I see it too. Obama says "we" a lot, meaning it's up to all of us to work for a better future for each of us.
Obama responds to FISA critics.
That Obama chose to give such a personal, reasoned, and sensitive response, and specifically on Huffington Post, where a lot of the vitriol toward his recent actions originated from, speaks to his authenticity as a different kind of politician. Right on, Barack!
BigT @ 23:
Yes Yes.. that is true..
The sucky thing about him and this whole debacle ... is the only reason I am voting for him is to inflict severe pain on Repiglicans...
Face it.. that's all there is about him...
As he has flipped away all the hope.. and flopped off the change...
Barack deserves criticism for his recent policy changes. McCain deserves criticism for pretty much every position he has.
Vote for Tweedledum or Tweedledee, and a framework of debate narrowed for you, courtesy
of the ultrarich and a media that filters out any voice that challenges their power.
(like Nader bounced in Boston by state troopers because he don't speak for oil tycoons and bankers who's pursuit of happiness and liberty demands a rhetoric of fear to be the litmus test for viable heirs to the phony drug wars, trumped up rouge states and the permanence of a war economy.)
Correction on comment #27-
The last sentence should read "The hope is that liberals and the troops should finally realize that Obama appears to be selling them out instead of bringing the troops OUT post haste."
Any sensible person has to know that all of our troops can't be taken out of Iraq in one day. It's going to take careful planning in order not to leave some troops as sitting ducks. This is not the kind of plan you can draw up one morning while you're having coffee. This will have to be a big, well coordinated deal.
The reptiles will have a new president whether they like him or not.
mudshark @ 22:
What else do I need? The people have spoken. Your girl and her agenda lost. The majority of the Democratic party and America seems to be siding with me Mudshark. Yes, Obama has screwed up lately but he'll be alright if given an actual chance to be Prez. Just remember...Obama's not President yet, he hasn't done anything wrong, yet. You go back and beat that dead horse...
The Candidate of "Change".
I didn't realize he meant while he changed/flipped on his positions.
I suppose he does use "we" to get us to stand up and get things done. He doesn't seem interested in helping, though.
Left&Left @ 35:
Are you sure your not in politics? The way you spin things is impressive. You know I'm supporting Obama. I asked what is the difference between the two. And you can't answer that now. Who's beating a dead horse? You are.
But hey, keep on spinning. One of these days you'll see that all politicians are alike.
Your responses have been pathetic.
BigTallMatt @ 29:
It'll be interesting to find out how many who are daily bitchin' and moanin' at this site will bother to read what Senator Obama said.
The only voice we, the public have, is to boycott ALL MSM 24 hr. cable TV stations
and, if known, do the same as to their sponsors/advertisers. Talking about thier biased/slanted broadcasts is not doing any good...they will not change since BIG
Business/Corp. control all of them. Fuck them all and the horse they rode in on.
Good article (from a conservative no less!) on Obama's base erosion
As a Hillary supporter by process of elimination
I don't like what's going on with the Obama coverage
It's so slanted against him
In an obvious non "liberal-media" way
And there's no Fairness Doctrine
Not that that ever applied to cable.
And L&L your sort of commentary will convince people not to vote and only aids the mccain camp as much as the media.
Even Obama knows this, and why he's making some overtures to their camp.
And even Obama's own moves toward faith-based initiatives, sickening use of religious phraseology, and waffling on the FISA will dampen enthusiasm that he's anything different from the usual school of politician.
doggiebobo @ 39:
We all know that they slant the news and they aren't gonna miss us if we leave. It's the rest of the American public who looks to them for news and information, who will fall victim to their bs.
Exotic Blue Lensman @ 40:
The only thing that can destroy Senator Obama's base are the people in that base. Much like what some seem to be trying to make happen right here on this site. In something like politics the only time divide and conquer works is if you can cause the divide in the other party.
The ironic thing is despite the fact that Obama supporters argue that he's not running as the race candidate, at this rate, that may be all he has left.
It will be said that those that vote against him, or not at all are racists.
pissed off patricia @ 38:
pissed off patricia @ 42:
POP: I hear you, but I made the decision over a year ago NOT to tune in to any of the
MSM(Main Smear Mechanism), and have not missed the "entertainment' whatsoever. I
get my news from Democarcy Now, Bill Moyers Journal, CSPAN(political), the Guardian,
BBC, and of course from this site. I have found that my temperment/attitude is oh so
much better(not finding it necessary to cuss/yell at the TV set). Maybe they don't miss
me, but I can guarantee you I most certainly don't miss them...and I am feeling better.
ysbaddaden @ 44:
That's what I'm waiting for________________to return.
ysbaddaden @ 41:
Nice post, yw - much more verbose than your usual one-liner.
As bad as Obama's FISA capitulation was, it's simply not something that the average joe/sally care or knows that much about. I've seen plenty of eyeballs glaze over at the mention of telecom immunity. At this point, I think Obama's strategy is two-pronged: avoid giving the repugs more "weak on national security" fodder, and go right into the heart of red-states to win votes based on domestic issues.
Progressives are just going to have to bite their tongues and hope that Obama delivers when and if he gets into office.
ysbaddaden @ 44:
No one has brought up race but you.
Obama is doing a better job of destroying his own credibility.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25519279/
pissed off patricia @ 43:
Exactly, and the point of my post @3 (they never seem to come across as clearly as I'd like).
Today Obama was giving a speech where he was basically cribbing from JFK's, "Do not ask what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country," but without the elequence nor the syllogism.
Left&Left @ 49:
Do you really think we've forgotten how many times you've brought it up .
I don't know why so many people seem to be up in arms over Obama's comments on his Iraq policy. This is from The Guardian:
From what I can gather, all he's saying is that if new information is presented to him that forces him to reassess his plan, he's willing to listen. That seems pretty reasonable and beats a "my way or the highway" approach like the one that has gotten us in so much trouble during the Bush administration.
Also, from the New York Times:
Since McCain keeps changing his positions radically, the GOP is going to claim Obama is a flip-flopper whenever there's even a hint of nuance on his part. This is just more of their usual playbook and I don't think we need to help them out and go ballistic because Obama isn't perfect and we don't always all agree with him. Heck, I disagree with myself sometimes. People on the left have been absolutely brutal to each other and their candidates throughout the primaries and it really needs to stop.
John, the idea of media drivel frequency tracking is spot on. I've been describing the weak shelf life of these sorties for a few weeks and now I'm beginning to think it is like long sustained artillery bombardment of well made trenches.
Essentially it is less effective over time because everyone takes cover after the first hour or so.
But the corporate media is losing its mind like spooked souls firing all they have into the foggy dark because a squirrel rattled a can. This is one jittery time all round.
I have a calm confidence in the demise of the Neo Feudal GOP and the Corporate world that owns it. So rather than getting wrapped up in the soap opera de jour, I am trying to see the long view and underlying forces driving the monsters clumsy self destruction.
For the past 30 years, this "Left leaning Media" has been listing to the far Right and it seems it may have gone unnoticed by you until today. Its always nice to see someones lights come on John.
If the Republicans and the corporate controlled media can do to the Democrats what they done to the UNIONS well have a lot smaller ballot in the near future.
49 Left&Left Says
Don't play dense.
I was referring to Bubba Clinton using the historical analogy of when another "outsider" was running on a wave of enthusiastic thongs, and won South Dakota, but eventually didn't get the nomination.
Suddenly, it was about his being racist.
Mario Cumo's shuck and jive comment was taken way out of context. Here in Texas we have a chain of oyster cafes called shuck and jive.
Ferraro's was more problematic, however, her second sentence did condition her first, but I think she was depending more on her elder statesman status than common sense.
My dial-up is slowing down so I mayn't be able to comment much further.
But Obama's recent overture to Bill Clinton may help him off-set his self-inflicted injuries.
Bubba's considered an expert at running campaigns.
I wish Wesley Clark ran for president
But what's happening to him now regarding his comments about mccain's qualifications for the presidency by the media
Reminds me of how Hillary and her supporters was treated by Obama's supporters.
mudshark @ 52:
Mudshark,
From time to time, I have had no choice but to deal with racial matters here because I noticed during the primary, dog whistlers like you, ysbaddaden and abob, left me with no choice but to address it. If you, or any of your subliminal race carding friends cross that line again, I'll answer you accordingly.
At least David Broder got the first line right: He wrote, "God, Republicans are saps. "
Left&Left @ 58:
Nice try, but it ain't gonna wash.
AH HAHAhahahahahahahahahahaha!
I really believe that the new generation, the new wave of Americans, "the youth", ages 1-18 will be the last nail in the coffin. They will have no analytical skills whatsoever, won't be able to reference any historical facts to understand the present and dream up their idea of what the future should be, because they will be totally brainwashed, left to what we, Americans are supposed to do and know best, consume. I guess that's why the media call the American citizens - the consumers. Not to mention that the Constitution no longer means and warrants what it used to and the word patriotism gets so much confused and exploited.
I wish the media pundits had a chance to visit the modern US public schools to see how "messed up" the young American people are (not in a negative, but a regretful sense), how the young ones talk, behave, make use of the useless "pop-culture" gadgets marketed to them as essential cool things to buy, slogans they use, slang language they talk, sounds, beats and screams they make, the young once who won't be able to afford college education under McCain (thanks to Bush), actually, thanks to the Bush’s legacy, Obama may not help either, because the young ones who are supposed to compete in the future in the global economy and decide what the image of America is like 10 years from now (when the retirees die, the smart ones retiree, the smart teachers get older and the new teachers from the idiot's lot with no basic fundaments to build on start their “mothafuckin’ e-ducation;)”, being brainwashed themselves and not even knowing when, why and how that happened). These young ones are bred by the 24-hour media with news designed to be forgotten one day later with such a determination and precision that it's simply sad to watch (unfortunately the inner city youth show the worst symptoms of how Idiocracy comes to being.) Just look at the numbers, the test scores and the trends.
Fine, one can make an argument that in America the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and there’s nothing unjust about that. A lot has been said lately about the country club memberships, elitism, what it means and how it may not help an average folk in America. The media are like these brats of the country club members, enjoy the elite status, pretend that their America is like that daddy’s villa and backyard and the poor do not exist because the media doesn’t show them and they happen not to personally meet them. Why would they? Government of the people, by the people and for the people seems to work only for the rich folks anyway, so why would they give a f**k about anybody, the poor or the soldiers who are of course not supposed to be war serfs for the elites in the first place. How foolish of them. Chaneys of centuries ago, if exist, are by definition to be found only in rouge regimes such as Zimbabwe and North Korea, because the US Constitution specifically forbids to have people like Chaney in power exploiting US Army for financial reasons.
I guess all the empires have tended to fall when there was no other way to spin the truth but to tell the public what the truth is. So basically the breaking news or Fox News’ Obama Watch exist solely, one might argue, because if they didn’t, the news would read more or less like “here’s the truth now f**k off and deal with it”, “eat rice and pasta if you can’t afford anything else in the world’s only military superpower”, “join army and go fight Arabs” or “buy as much gas as you think is needed so your family doesn’t starve to death and by the way, there’s no such things as the Enron loophole because Enron is such an old story you have no way of remembering it and by now you’re supposed to be dumbed down enough so why am I talking to you about Enron anyway?!” Life without distractions demands honesty sooner or later, so no wonder the media focus on million things or one thing that’s totally, absurdly not newsworthy such as a celeb story or a car chase during one day news cycle, over and over again so it’s not worth thinking and remembering anything. Can you imagine the news without the “breaking news”? I can’t. This is gonna be fun to watch unfold, the ultimate blame game, because as with everything in life, the culprits will have to be called for from Congress, to the media, to the Fed, to the White House, to the corporations, because people had enough and won’t take it anymore. For real, inflation 100% (milk, bread and butter), gas prices 100% (pump) in 7 years, wages stagnant, annual average worker raise of 5% which would add up to 35% or stagnant for service workers with dead end jobs, vs 100%, which gives the “having enough” a totally new meaning, does it not?
So let’s keep drilling because there’s nothing better than getting wet and dirty for another century, I’m sure “there will be blood” if we dare to go eco-friendly from a dedicated opposition, because as we all know, wind turbines, bio-diesels and clean and delicate solar panels are for Swedish and German pussies, ain’t they, and this is America in which government of the people, for the people and by the people knows best what’s good and comfy, and what gives immediate gratifications not for all, but for enough.
ysbaddaden @ 56:
If you think that all this race bullshit that has infiltrated this campaign is just a misunderstanding and not because a black guy is running and a lot of people have a problem with that, you're the one who is "dense".
What a load of crap! The media hasn't been this far in the tank for a candidate since Bush ran in 2000. As soon as the cable news comes up for air Obama is going to sink like the Titanic.
from TP:
Marie Says:
Can you imagine the field day in the press if Obama had abandoned his first, ailing wife; if he had carried on an affair before he divoprced her; if a multimillionaire had to pay for his first wife’s medical bills?
Can you imagine if Obama’s had spend $750,000/month on credit cards?
So much is made over Michelle Obama’s $140 b/w dress for “the view” — who’s talking about the $3,000 german-designer suits for Cindy?
What would be said if the Obama’s were lobbying against MADD?
katy Says:
all good points, marie…
and how many of us could get away with NOT paying RE taxes, on at least one of our 7 san diego properties, for 6 years???
eh? mcCHUMP is getting free ride, all right…
Marie Says: ...
McCain’s just bought a Boeing jet for themselves and the press is salivating over it because they can get a ride now and then.
Why isn’t anyone talking about Cindy McCain and her son actively lobbying against Mothers Against Drunk Drivers? What do you think the Bible Belt would think of that?
all KINDS of stories like that...
the meedjia just doesn't want a landslide...
This virtual worship of a candidate, and refusing to see problems, we've seen before
In bush supporters.
Personally, I don't think the MSM can do a thing at this point, not as long as McCranky and Bush continue to open their mouths, they are toast. I am not 100% behind Obama's policies right now, but there is no fucking way that I am voting for another four years of a nimrod like McCranky to run this country further into the ground.
This thread has been entertaining to say the least. Remember to save the ultimate comeback toward the end of the argument when you just can't take it anymore: fuck you and the horse you rode in on! (thanks to George C)
I think what irks a lot of people in the net activist community about Obama is that he is not an ideologue. He doesn't work from a clearly identified set of theoretically-based truths.
He wants to talk to people, see what they think, negotiate a little, and work up a position.
After so many years of Bush, I think I would rather have someone a little more pragmatic rather than a Liberal ideologue (especially since the popular ideologies have been formed as oppositional ones). I want a new ethos to emerge through the will of the American people.
ariuszme @ 1:
As I recall there was NOTHING negative about Obama, except his skin colour, his wife, his church (Wright)-- (when he wasn't a Muslim, of course), his name (Hussein), his elitism, his associations with "known terrorists", his inexperience, his naive dreams for America (ponies and ice cream stuff), his being out of touch with blue-collar, white, working class Americans... did I miss any? You're right. They gave him a pass.
dennis @ 13:
What is this? Some kind of contest to see who can be most disingenuous?
Okay. Let me drop some knowledge on you fools.
Amato and others were all over the media when they were unfair to Clinton. And does that have anything to do with the media being unfair to Obama?
Never vetting Obama? You must have been in some kind of asylum if you haven't heard about Obama's former pastor, his ties to radical Islam, anti-semitism, and dirty Chicago politics - and that's even before we learn he has mad terrorist fist jab skills.
Seriously, there is no argument about this bullshit WSJ editorial masquerading as analysis - Citing three issues on which Obama has made overtures at Bush's supporters as somehow proof that Obama is more like Bush than McCain is? What a crock.
And what did he say about Iraq? That conditions on the ground would dictate how fast he would withdraw troops, but he remained committed to removing the vast majority within 16 months? That's the same god-damned thing he's said since the beginning.
And, Dennis, like you ever wanted any of Obama's hope or change. You're still convinced that McCain's ties to EADS had nothing to do with the tanker contract.
I'm sick of these disingenuous trolls. Obama was always the centrist Democratic candidate and the only thing he has done recently is tone down all his leftist expectations. He hasn't even gone along with FISA yet - and he has said he opposes telecom immunity. The "faith based initiatives" was blowing smoke for the religious. Obama has always been on the fence on guns and the death penalty. All the rest of this crap is smoke and mirrors.
Edwin Hussein @ 68:
His bowling - don't forget he can't bowl worth shit.
48 Exotic Blue Lensman
Your right of course about the lack of attention of the American public, and their being easily distracted.
"Progressives are just going to have to bite their tongues and hope that Obama delivers when and if he gets into office."
Ultimately, a strong chance still exists that will be the case, but we still need the independents (many of whom are more correctly called the apathetic), mccain's own somnolent speaking style, but weren't we hoping for a sense of excitement and real change?
ysbaddaden @ 57:
ysbaddaden @ 65:
Please, ysbad. There's no worship going on over here.
And I still don't know what Obama supporters were so mean to Clinton.
Anyway, enjoy your fourth.
Exotic Blue Lensman @ 3:
All ideologies are blind to new ideas. I'll hazard to say, being "progressive" to the nth degree can also blind one: the world does not revolve around us-- far from it. Obama is taking a pragmatic approach to the reality of the American voting population: he's in it to win. I thought a progressive attitude encompassed the realization that sometimes we need compromise for efficacy.
I certainly wouldn't be voting McSame, for any reason (plus I'm Canadian, so... )
The lessons I learned today reading this thread ---- If you plan not to vote for obama -- you are a racist and prejudiced ---- closed minded. Besides who could vote for a septuagenarian with a pronounced chin waddle/turkey goozie??? Being a POW is way over-rated. And obama is not --- not--- changing his positions --- he is just clarifying and elucidating. I learn so much here and realize how wrong I can be on the issues. I am so grateful to know the truth and right way and what to believe.................................may I have some more kool-aid, please
To pare down my argument further from comment 71, which was trying to say too much.
We were hoping for a sense of excitement and even inevitablility this election. Insted it looks like yet another case of holding your nose while voting.
kasinca @ 2:
lets hear it women is this the kind of treatment your going to get from these women haters? or cant you take up for yourselves? my wife would pull pull this guys balls up thru his tonsils!
ysbaddaden @ 75:
been there done that with kerry , done holding my nose ysb!
I'm noticing a real shift in the manner the media is treating Obama - just on Race To The White House with Joe the Douchebag, they had 4 pundits with the combined IQ of sauerkraut talking about how Obama flip-flopped because he suggested that "conditions on the ground will dictate the speed of withdrawal". Rachel Maddow, of course, was the only one to point that out, and when they showed a clip of what he said in March, they all pretended like it was irrefutable evidence that Obama said "withdraw in 16 months no matter what!" So the 4 morons all ganged up on the one smart person, making it seem like she was the crazy one. BTW, this wasn't on Fox News.
ysbaddaden @ 75:
yeah, well, whaddagonnado?
some people are easily duped.
But I do think Obama can do a good job, if he gets elected. The man is bright.
He's pulling tactical political moves to garner more votes. In the proccess, he burst the bubble of those who blindly supported him.
I do think the man is very intelligent. And is capable of doing the job. Probably better than most. That said, HC was also capable of doing the job, probably better than most. We'll see how this all plays out.
douglas in oklahoma @ 74:
douglas, you forgot "blame Clinton". Either one.
if the media causes obama to lose like they went after gore and kerry....then im done.
the gloves are off. interpret it how you like. i'm not living in this phony "democracy" nightmare anymore.
80 mudshark
We'll have to wait and see about the effectuality of an Obama presidency.
He has a tendency to confuse people, some see nuance, some see maneuvering for position.
That might cost him support even in a Democratic Congress.
His campaign maligned elder figures of the party, some still quite popular.
Remember, Jimmy Carter was an outsider who came in to reform Washington, but couldn't get along with a Congress of his own party. He's better as an ex-president than as a president.
carefulwiththatAXEeugene @ 82:
Yes, the same media who built him up - like Time magazine proclaiming him the next POTUS while Sen Clinton was still in the primary race - the same media will tear him down. Well, except for Olbermann.
ysbaddaden @ 83:
yah know i voted for kerry even though he was a hawk on the iraq debatchery, but thinking hey hes a democrat surely after hes in office we can change his mind , now i know better these guys are owned by the corporations and thats all they listen to, were just so much crap to be used by these slocks ,
ysbaddaden @ 76:
I can agree with that sentiment.
How many fucking time do I have to say this. It is not the Main Stream Media. We are the Main Stream, brooks and his ilk demonstrate nothing but contempt for our rights, livliehood, and wellbeing. They promote the Fascist agenda of their Corporate dictators, they are the talking puppets and pimps of CORPORATE MEDIA.
Left&Left @ 11:
Now that's funny!
lolo @ 88:
lets see how much your laughing next year when your dear leaders sold out the country to the corporations! hillary might look better then
Another front for the Zionists. Get a life, David, we're wise to you.
Left&Left @ 59:
Please, folks. "Media" is a plural noun. It's "Media LOVE...etc." not "LOVES"
The media biased you say? Really? Reading hit pieces on air to create wider distribution? I had no knowledge of this until you posted it on your website...
Not only does the FCC need to be thoroughly cleaned, fumigated and restored to integrity, but we need a truth-in-reporting law. The shit these propaganda outlets are doing comes close to being actionable under RICO for wire fraud.
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Okay site monitor I'm sorry, you're right. It seems everytime I debate Mudshark, he tries to falsely label me as a bigot....which is also abusive. It's cool, I'm done with him.
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