America needs to stop whining about home foreclosures and start whining about homosexuals!

politis @ 2:

America needs to stop whining about home foreclosures and start whining about homosexuals!

Is "foreclosure" some sort of S&M game?

barnes another insensitive over-paid ass-wipe.
these jackasses that have over-rated payscale jobs
would not know what is it like for a family of three or four
to live on minimum wage even if both parents have jobs.

he can suck the big one!

This is high comedy.
Reslugs have turned the country into a fascist dictatorship war machine and made the population indentured servants to the state and when the peasants stop watching the latest crap reality show long enough to say something, the new ruling class tells them to stop whining.

But wait! I'm SURE they're just shaking in their boots because there's an election coming up. They're not? Could it be because they own the DoJ and the elections commission too? Not to mention they control BOTH parties?

Yeah.
You're fucked.

I agree, this is straight talk about what these idiots believe is good for us. Barnes is a tool and we should listen to every word he says.

Audio exists of the gramm remarks, there is this...dnc should but a minute of time and just run it. No embellishment, just play it again and again. There is so much to work with, I don't know what they are waiting for.

that's all part of the plan right record profits at Wall-fart(china-mart) and cosco......big box,low paying,no union,put smaller stores out of business....kind of stores..
mission accomplish.....

Barnes can speak for himself.

The dumbf*cks that watch Fox News can only afford to drink one six pack of Bud/night instead of the usual two so I guess they are whining about the economy. These folks may not vote for Obama and they won't show up to vote for Bush either.

When Obama used the term "bitter" he was called an elitist. Now McCain's supporters are calling us "whiners" and they are linking this to the McCain screwball express, so McCain is an elitist.

So, are we bitter because we are called whiners or are we bitter because of guns and jesus? And were we better off before the boy Bush and his thieves took office?

Why is this professional blathermouth whining so much about whiners? I guess anyone who can't think for themselves would actually waste their time listening to this blowhole telling them how to think. Unfortunately, most of the cable news channels are full of these 'strategists' and sundry 'analysts'; equivalent of Broadcast News Deadwood.

constituent @ 12:

that's all part of the plan right record profits at Wall-fart(china-mart) and cosco......big box,low paying,no union,put smaller stores out of business....kind of stores..
mission accomplish.....

I have to differ with you on the costco thing.They start people at 11 dolars an hour.Not sure,but I think they get benefits too.

Give Fred Barnes a break; his main job has always been to be a kiss ass.
Watch any of his predictable reporting, he's a Tony Snowjob clone (my prayers to his family) (he nonetheless was a piece of propaganda work).
Fred was born a homely child, well lets be honest a ugly geeky nerdy child; and overweight to boot.
His words are mere expressions of good hard working ass kissing.
It's not as if he has ever represented himself as a talented, insightful reporter. Mouth pieces don't do that.
I think at least he is an honest and loyal spokes hole. So let the dork talk. Quit bullying him.

I think this is an excellent strategy for the McCain campaign, nothing gets votes faster than insulting the electorate. Keep it up Fox News, you're doing a GREAT job.

sully18 @ 22:

constituent @ 12:

that's all part of the plan right record profits at Wall-fart(china-mart) and cosco......big box,low paying,no union,put smaller stores out of business....kind of stores..
mission accomplish.....

I have to differ with you on the costco thing.They start people at 11 dolars an hour.Not sure,but I think they get benefits too.

no....your right i've heard that about costco....i thought i heard somewhere it requires 15 an hour to be above poverty(highest level)

sully18 @ 22:

constituent @ 12:

that's all part of the plan right record profits at Wall-fart(china-mart) and cosco......big box,low paying,no union,put smaller stores out of business....kind of stores..
mission accomplish.....

I have to differ with you on the costco thing.They start people at 11 dolars an hour.Not sure,but I think they get benefits too.

Sam's club would have been a better analogy. Cosco actually supports Democratic causes. Sam's is Republic all the way.

I love it. Just like when McCain complains about social security when he has been sucking at the American tit since the 60's. First it was the navy, then vet disability, then the senate, divorce an ill wife, marry a young millionaire, run for prez going back and forth on taxpayer money to fund his campaign.

Liberals should react to Barnes and Gramm with the same screechy phony sanctimoniousness that would certainly greet THEM (care of the usual gang of idiots)were the tables turned.(as they usually are)You know:"why do Republicans hate Americans sooooooooooooooooo much??"

same old Republican bullshit.

It's all the government's fault unless we control the government, then it's your own damn fault for having your expectations too high. And then to whine about it? What we need is some more tax cuts and a new country populated by brown people to bomb. Then maybe we can get out of this malaise.

recent speech by San Francisco Fed President Janet Yellen laid out the Fed's view that higher commodity prices are bad enough in themselves. But even worse would be the development of a wage-price spiral, in which workers are able to demand higher wages to offset higher prices, but only by forcing their employer to raise prices in turn for their customers. Such an inflation spiral would be devastating, Yellen said.
In the past, the Fed has looked closely at core inflation (which excludes food and energy prices in order to see broader trends) to gauge whether higher energy prices are spilling over into a generalized inflation.
Now, Crandall said, the Fed is going "beyond the core-price concept" to look directly at wages. If wages rise quickly, the Fed will act, even it means pushing the economy over the cliff by raising interest rates high enough to kill off inflation.
The Fed's view could be political dynamite. Hard-pressed workers must sacrifice their living standards. But the people haven't really accepted the bad news yet: We are poorer because of the surge in food and energy prices, and no one -- not Uncle Sam nor Uncle Ben -- can change that.
"The only way to deal with the oil price spike is for real incomes to go down," Crandall said.

ysbaddaden @ 31:

4 St. Vitus Says: politis @ 2:

America needs to stop whining about home foreclosures and start whining about homosexuals!

Is “foreclosure” some sort of S&M game?
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Once the whips start flying we'd all be doing the St Vitus dance.

Don't know, you'd have to ask a Republican. They're gayer than me.

i guess it must be pretty difficult, for barnes, to settle for a 6 or 7 figure salary, a home in the city and in the country, and, by his own admission, a comfortably low tax rate.

bryancri @ 42:

i guess it must be pretty difficult, for barnes, to settle for a 6 or 7 figure salary, a home in the city and in the country, and, by his own admission, a comfortably low tax rate.

Exactly! What's everyone whining about, I'm doin gggggreaaat!

There is the fact that under Bush, corporate profits have enjoyed the greatest percentage of GDP ever. Seems to me that means that people who rely on unearned income have made out, while people who rely on earned income (wages, saleries) haven't made out.

Then, there is the issue of the Bush years relying on borrowing. We have been borrowing year after year since Bush took office. At some point this borrowing is going to have to stop, and the economy will then have to pay for the present and the past. I think we're already beginning to see that with dollar devaluation.

I think the first President Bush, George H.W Bush , lost the 1992 election in great part by denying that the economic problems were that serious, leading to the statement "It's the economy, stupid". Whether the recession at that time was serious or not, the public had concluded that it was. Since Bush wasn't acknowledging that, people didn't think he would get on the case to resolve the perceived problem. That hasn't been lost on anyone running from President since then. So, naturally, McCain is going to distance himself from Ghramm because the Ghramm position is a losing proposition.

I think this time around, the economic problems are much more serious. Borrow and spend economics have boxed the Fed into a corner. If they lower interest rates, the dollar weakens, oil becomes more expensive, and the economy tanks. If they raise interest rates to stem inflation, costs of borrowing increases, and the economy tanks.

The government is poised to present a $300B mortgage rescue program, which sounds nice. But where is the money coming from - more borrowing? So, does that mean that the Federal government is going to be competing with companies and individuals for funds in a time where there is a credit crunch? Or are they going to simply print money?

Right now, the Americans may be "whining" about the economy. But, they better start demanding answers. The fact is, something has to give, and one issue that needs to come forward, front and center, is the turd in the punchbowl that no one wants to talk about, which is the inordinate amount of money we pay to play the world's policeman, roughly 50% of the world's military expenditures. The whiners need to figure out that we can't have it all, health care, social security, and world hegemony. Something has to go.

pinkobait @ 34:

Liberals should react to Barnes and Gramm with the same screechy phony sanctimoniousness that would certainly greet THEM (care of the usual gang of idiots)were the tables turned.(as they usually are)You know:"why do Republicans hate Americans sooooooooooooooooo much??"

Now that's the spirit. But have you thought of this?

Go over to REDSTATE. Grab you a name like "TexIsTuff" and write verbatim what Barnes said. Then denounce MCain for throwing a true patriot like Phil Gramm under the bus.
Accuse MCain of backtracking on his promise to get right with his base. Curse him for not recognizing that, except for those Messikins we lock in all night at WalMart to make sure they are not stealing the Chinese merchandise after they mop the floor, we need to build that fence now so those autoworkers can find jobs in our lettuce patch.

Let em know you will not be voting for McCain until he lets Phil and Rev. Hagee back on the bus. Screw up your spelling and grammar for authenticy. Dare the MSM to give as much coverage to McCain's problems talking down to the redneck community as they do trying to help Obama by giving Jesse Jackson and other friends of Obama so much coverage.

If you need practice, just read some of the attacks on Obama by "progressives" on this site. It will give you some clues for the appropriately stupid behavior.

bryancri @ 42:

i guess it must be pretty difficult, for barnes, to settle for a 6 or 7 figure salary, a home in the city and in the country, and, by his own admission, a comfortably low tax rate.

Only because his intelligence numbers have not been keeping pace.

Here is some straight talk.

The Republican party HATES the common citizen, and they actually believe that we're all a bunch of whiners!

Vote for that!

Fred is proof of McCain's straight talk when he said Americans won't pick lettuce.

Why does Fred Barnes hate America?

dennis @ 55:

I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen. They all to a man laughed and said not by a long shot, that's it's been so good for so long that most people don't even know what a real recession is like. Are we whiners, I asked. Every one of them said without a doubt we were.

Hmmm, those guys sound like republicans. I can't remember healthcare in this country being as bad as it is now.

dennis @ 55:

I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen. They all to a man laughed and said not by a long shot, that's it's been so good for so long that most people don't even know what a real recession is like. Are we whiners, I asked. Every one of them said without a doubt we were.

In fact, that's probably pretty accurate for Boomers in their 50s and 60s, which is why McCain's support is solid in that demographic. For people who established their careers, paid off their mortgages, and started their retirement investment plans in the late 80s or beyond, things are pretty good at the moment, especially with lower taxes. Ask the same question to people in their 20s, 30s and 40s. (Also, ask those older guys what period they think WAS the toughest time we've ever been through, and see what they say. My guess is they'll probably say 1977-1983, or somewhere in there. That's when those guys were in their 30s, had probably just bought a house, and were actually VULNERABLE to a debt, mortgage or credit crisis when both interest rates and fuel prices went up.)

Also, it's not really a fair comparison. The older you get the more you tend to think young people are whiners anyway, whether it's true or not. I notice myself doing it, too. It's just human nature.

Nicky @ 48:

Go over to REDSTATE. Grab you a name like "TexIsTuff" and write verbatim what Barnes said. Then denounce MCain for throwing a true patriot like Phil Gramm under the bus.
Accuse MCain of backtracking on his promise to get right with his base. Curse him for not recognizing that, except for those Messikins we lock in all night at WalMart to make sure they are not stealing the Chinese merchandise after they mop the floor, we need to build that fence now so those autoworkers can find jobs in our lettuce patch.

Let em know you will not be voting for McCain until he lets Phil and Rev. Hagee back on the bus.

If you need practice, just read some of the attacks on Obama by "progressives" on this site. It will give you some clues for the appropriately stupid behavior.

Hahah! Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what most of the 'Progressives' who come to this site and slam Obama for not being far enough to the left, and betraying his 'base' are really doing. I'd even suspect it was Fred Barnes who was doing it, but I don't think he knows how to use the internet. It's more likely some of those second generation chickenhawks in the College Republicans who are honing their skills for becoming the Karl Rove of 2020.

Pericles @ 45:

Haven't these people ever heard of Marie Antoinette?

"If you're having trouble covering your short-sells on the stock market, just suck it up and sell your Maserati! So what if you're forced to drive your Viper for awhile. Stop whining!"

Republicans: Government by the rich, for the rich.

I think it's time to dust off the guillotine and storm the Bastille.

Indeed. At one time, I'll bet John Wilkes Booth was considered a whiner.

Fredie "the Beatle" Barnes, ladies and gentlemen!

Fuck this punk! Whinning? Are you kidding me? So, would you tell someone, lying on the side of the road after being hit by a car, that he is whinning? Fred Barnes, I suggest you not come around my neighborhood and voice those comments -- you might not come out in one piece, you bitch!

Walter Reed wasn't infected with black mold and rodents - it was just in their mind.

cg @ 70:

Walter Reed wasn't infected with black mold and rodents - it was just in their mind.

The rodents?

Dr Acula @ 65:

55 dennis Says: I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50’s to 60’s, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen. They all to a man laughed and said not by a long shot, that’s it’s been so good for so long that most people don’t even know what a real recession is like. Are we whiners, I asked. Every one of them said without a doubt we were.

Let me guess, Dennis. This happened at your golf club this morning.

Doc, man, wtf is your obsession with me and golf all of a sudden? Do you hate the game, or just people who play it? I don't get it, it's a great game and Republicans and Democrats alike play it. It's not even all that expensive to play compared to a lot of other things people do for sport and leisure these days.

Whoever it is you hang out with or live near by or whatever, I doubt if you sampled a group of 50, 60 and 70 yr olds, you'd get a much different overall answer. I didn't say things weren't tough or that the pain and suffering people are experiencing right now isn't real, it's just that it's very likely older people think things have been almost too good for a lot of people for a while now and that most of them went through far tougher times than these, and that we'll weather this storm as well.

dennis @ 55:

I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired......

(emphasis added).

That says it all.

Straight talk for Fred Barnes: You are one stupid dipshit who has no idea what it is like to have to choose between taking your medicines that keep you healthy, paying for food, or paying your gas bill. Oh wait, you are right. I should not be whining about trying to stay alive.

Sheesh, he is such a prick.

Saint Augustine @ 75:

dennis @ 55:

I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen. They all to a man laughed and said not by a long shot, that's it's been so good for so long that most people don't even know what a real recession is like. Are we whiners, I asked. Every one of them said without a doubt we were.

Dennis is a lying piece of shit. I'm 64 and I have never seen it this bad. I talk to young people all the time and remind them that they will probably have to register for a draft if McInsane wins.

By the way, did I mention that Dennis is a lying piece of shit. I read it on the internet, it must be true.

FU, St. Augustine. I don't lie and I'm not lying about the people I talked to. It's just anecdotal; nothing more, nothing less. If you think there is no way a group of older men would think we whine way too much you don't know much about human nature. Most guys I know that age are just glad to be alive and their loved ones are healthy because they know it can all change very quickly.

And you're an asshole. I read that on the internet too.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ha HA!

There's no doubt the economy is bad? After all the water-carrying and dancing about trying to preserve Bush's 'legacy'?

And it's OUR fault?

Isn't this the same as insisting we're too stupid to recognize the greatness of the man called W?

Straight talk, then, Freddie, would be about solutions - not 'yes, it's true, we're in the toilet, shut up, you crybaby!'

Oh, puhleeze! Americans are not supposed to complain about how the Republicans have ruined this country. When we are told that shit is ice cream, we are supposed to lap it up and say "yummo" like Rachel Ray. They're trying to tie it in with Obama's bitter remarks. If you are a real American, you never ever complain about your disastrous government. Ferchrissakes, what more do we want? We have our guns and Bibles.

I was a pup in the late 60's and early 70's and there was one big difference between then and now. We we're unquestionably the king of the heap despite OPEC and Japan.

Now we have much stronger competitors in the EU, China and India.

Before we could have hope things would improve.

That's lacking now.

And before regulations were seen as sensible

Now as interferrence.

Dr Acula @ 77:

I like golf as well, Dennis. I just remember someone, probably Dr. Matt, busting your chops.

That dude is bizarre. Please don't be like him. There are quite a few people I enjoy sparring with and you've been one of them, Doc. Please don't take anything I say personally.

And yes, it was on the golf course when I did my 'random' sampling. At that age they've already gotten their kids through college and married and their mortgages paid and aren't worried a whole lot about their regular monthly bills. But they all feel like they've paid their dues in life as well and so should everyone else. I always kid them that they've gotten through life at the right time, their peak earning years corresponded with a booming stock market and the houses they paid 50,000 bucks for back in the late 60's are worth a half million to 750,000 now, not to mention having 401 k's AND pension benefits, and college wasn't so expensive as it is now. They tell me to STFU in their own way, much like a few people here do too.

If you're ever in Virginia, let me know and we can play a round or two. On me.

the 4 and a half dollar gas isn't in my head, it's in my wallet! This guy, along with EVERY Republican should just go and fuck themselves.

And they'll never admit that Republican economics has been a disaster from the start.

dennis @ 55:

I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen. They all to a man laughed and said not by a long shot, that's it's been so good for so long that most people don't even know what a real recession is like. Are we whiners, I asked. Every one of them said without a doubt we were.

Are you for real? I am 65, and my husband is 67. Most of our friends are in the same age bracket. We are not whiners but angry as hell at what's happening to the country. We have children who we don't want to see fall through the cracks, even from beyond the grave. BTW, most of us are not rich but comfortable (not quite so much now though). We're the people who love this country and don't want to see it go down the tubes. I wish I could meet with you and your chums. I would take great pleasure in kicking your goddam selfish Republican asses.

Nicky @ 91:

Hey kid's. I'm back from Nicole's show where I was dead serious. Looks like you folks are feeding trolls again in the form of Dennis. Don't feed trolls. Flush weasels.

And then you brag about trolling on conservative sights and encourage other people to do the same.

Very classy, Nicky.

Scratch that.

It should read, "My ancestors used to be in the government of Virginia while it was still a Royal colony."

naschkatze Hussein @ 94:

dennis @ 55:

I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen. They all to a man laughed and said not by a long shot, that's it's been so good for so long that most people don't even know what a real recession is like. Are we whiners, I asked. Every one of them said without a doubt we were.

Are you for real? I am 65, and my husband is 67. Most of our friends are in the same age bracket. We are not whiners but angry as hell at what's happening to the country. We have children who we don't want to see fall through the cracks, even from beyond the grave. BTW, most of us are not rich but comfortable (not quite so much now though). We're the people who love this country and don't want to see it go down the tubes. I wish I could meet with you and your chums. I would take great pleasure in kicking your goddam selfish Republican asses.

They love their country too and don't want to see it go down the tubes, either. None of their lives are perfect, far from it, and they all have children that they worry about too and what life will be like for them. I'm not at all selfish and neither are any of them. Most of them are quite selfless and do a lot of charity work and donate generously. Why you want to kick someone's ass for their beliefs is mind-boggling to me. And to hear it from a 65 year old woman is bizarre to me as well. It's really why I can't bring myself to see eye to eye with a lot of posters here, and I've honestly tried.

You know, I think that somehow even Fox's braindead viewers are not likely to buy this line unless they are so wealthy that the downturn in the economy and gas prices are leaving them unaffected. Usually the right wing is good at presenting a faux populist facade, but Barnes seems to be rather off message here. How do they think this sort of approach will help McCain at the polls?

Kanan @ 99:

dennis @ 96:

Nicky @ 91:

Hey kid's. I'm back from Nicole's show where I was dead serious. Looks like you folks are feeding trolls again in the form of Dennis. Don't feed trolls. Flush weasels.

And then you brag about trolling on conservative sights and encourage other people to do the same.

Very classy, Nicky.

FYI

I believe the word you're searching for is "sites"

It's no wonder the old men laugh at you on the golf course

No, Kanan, I meant sites. Short for websites.

Thanks for looking out for me, though.

These fascist pigs are nothing but asshats for the crime family of Bush and McSame.

dennis @ 90:

Dr Acula @ 77:

I like golf as well, Dennis. I just remember someone, probably Dr. Matt, busting your chops.

.... At that age they've already gotten their kids through college and married and their mortgages paid and aren't worried a whole lot about their regular monthly bills. But they all feel like they've paid their dues in life as well and so should everyone else......

I think everybody agrees that we should not give people a free ride and that people should earn, in one way or another, a means to keep their heads above water. Most of us also understand that there are people in our American family who need as much support as we can provide to them. However, when government policies are stacked against people who do everything and anything to support themselves and their families ("paying their dues"), but yet they fall further behind, something is very wrong. I applaud those who have worked hard and are happy with what they have accomplished, but it is not whining, when people speak out against a system that has been rigged by those who receive special favors from their government in the form of tax breaks in the thousands of dollars when they clearly do not need them.

Poor Fred, if he had a brain he'd be dangerous. What a FOOL/TOOL for the reichwing Republic party.

fux: the compassionate network
they can't suppress their nazi leanings

myshadow @ 12:

Audio exists of the gramm remarks, there is this...dnc should but a minute of time and just run it. No embellishment, just play it again and again. There is so much to work with, I don't know what they are waiting for.

Two years ago Granholm trailed Dick DeVos in our Governors race going into August. Around labor day, they started playing commercials of how the repuke DeVos loved him some Bush, and that DeVos was really just another Dick DeBush. On election night, Granholm was declared the winner at 8:00 p.m. when the polls closed. Final statewide tally was 58% Granholm, and 41% for the republican Dick.

I think Obama is smart. I am waiting for these adds to come forward in the last 60 days of the campaign. Many people are trying to enjoy summer and vacation right now. Get a little escape from the republican misery they are enduring. Come labor day, when they are unemployed and the kids are back in school, I expect to see this republican "let them eat cake shit" all over the tube. They better, because the corporate MSM is going to drop it down the memory hole!

In Michigan, the MSM corporate whore bastards screamed fowl on Granholm's campaign and tried to cover for evil Dick. They literally said it was unfair to bring up NAFTA and outsourcing on our local television shows. They even claimed it was not at all related to what was going on in our state, even though the polls showed that 2/3 of the people thought so. 
 
But they were not fooling anyone. SOB's!
 
They were practically in tears the week after the election. They couldn't believe that the people didn't realize that the Bush economy was great everywhere but Michigan. That was the last time I ever watched the local repuke bastards. 

Please fix your links. - the Winap is a Quicktime link which crashes my computer.
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Nicole: Fixed.

This is one reason why Re-puke-lics have run the country into the ground. The average American means nothing to them. They care NOTHING about the real problems, difficulties and hardships we are facing.

To this privileged butt-boy, everything is just hunky-dory - he isn't experiencing hardship therefore no one else is. We're "whining" ~~

Barnes - you're an ass-hat.
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dennis @ 100:

naschkatze Hussein @ 94:

dennis @ 55:

I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen. They all to a man laughed and said not by a long shot, that's it's been so good for so long that most people don't even know what a real recession is like. Are we whiners, I asked. Every one of them said without a doubt we were.

Are you for real? I am 65, and my husband is 67. Most of our friends are in the same age bracket. We are not whiners but angry as hell at what's happening to the country. We have children who we don't want to see fall through the cracks, even from beyond the grave. BTW, most of us are not rich but comfortable (not quite so much now though). We're the people who love this country and don't want to see it go down the tubes. I wish I could meet with you and your chums. I would take great pleasure in kicking your goddam selfish Republican asses.

They love their country too and don't want to see it go down the tubes, either. None of their lives are perfect, far from it, and they all have children that they worry about too and what life will be like for them. I'm not at all selfish and neither are any of them. Most of them are quite selfless and do a lot of charity work and donate generously. Why you want to kick someone's ass for their beliefs is mind-boggling to me. And to hear it from a 65 year old woman is bizarre to me as well. It's really why I can't bring myself to see eye to eye with a lot of posters here, and I've honestly tried.

The point is Dennis, that you are as dense as lead!

Everyone I know, even people in their 80's from my parent's generation say the same thing; this is the worse shape they have seen this country in since the last Republican Great Depression. And whether you want to admit it or not doesn't matter, because every major economic indicator is at, or near levels of misery not last seen since the great depression!

Even upper-upper middle class people I know (who always were swimming in money) are now worried, and many have lost small businesses they have had for 25-30 years!

But that was the intended result of 30 years of deregulation from the sociopathic republican party (and Bill "DLC" Clinton). They now have the vast majority of people between a rock and a hard place, and they are laughing all the way to the bank.

Even a college education cannot gaurantee people a shot at the American dream now. That's why the 80 year olds say this about the economy; there is an absolute feeling of hopelessness for most people today, just like in the 30's!

If you have not picked up on this yet, you are either a complete idiot, or a repuke sociopath! It has nothing to do with political debate and opinions. That is why old women want to kick your ass! When Grandma is FIGHTING MAD, you know things are SERIOULSLY fucked up! Unless your name is Dennis.

you should see the way Freddy whines when he is off camera. He is a consumate whiner...he's almost a DC landmark to see him whining in a restaurant...or whining while he walks down the street.

freddy is a little bitch.

I am so sick of this fucking moron and the rest of his Neocon slime. I'll say this much. If our leaders write up a bill this weekend to address the bailout of Fannie and Freddie at our expense ( the tax payer ) then there should be calls for a national strike. Just walk out. If that doesn't get their attention, then make it a one week walkout. Shut the country down until such time that government again works for the people instead of against them. If that doesn't work, then the Constitution allows the government to be dumped and we start over again with a level playing field for all.

Travis Austin @ 121:

Let's see how much Gramm, Barnes, and the rest of these submentals "whine" when we all vote Obama into the White House.

If you really want to hear them "whine," wait till we bring back the 94% marginal tax rates! "Grover, get off the window ledge!"

So it's wrong for Obama to say people are bitter but it's OK for this hack to call Americans a bunch of whiners. It's pretty hard to believe there are still people out there who watch and absorb the shit that pours out of FOX Noise. But I actually know some people who do. Unbelievable.

Little FreddyBarnes is a PUTZ.

Whine?

Hell, I don't whine ... I VOTE!

Obama '08

Never since after WWII 1940 has it been worse than this. The 50s were boom years. The 60s were boom years the 70s sucked but the foreclosures and medical care affordability was not worse than now ans the price of gas was not this bad and the 80s were the Ray Gun years and the 90s were the Clinton years. So where is all that was it worse than now? Asshole lying sack of shit.

There is an AP article today about how Bill Clinton discussed the polarization of the American electorate. Americans no longer try to live together or relate to each other outside their own political groupings.

I believe it. I have absolutely no feeling for right-wing pigs like Barnes who don't contribute or produce a GODDAMN thing for the human race. They just show their fat little faces on television and make millions of $$$$ running their mouths spewing right wing propaganda.

These pigs are parasites of the lowest order. Fuck them all.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 115:

Spicegal @ 107:

How do Rethuglicans get away with this kind of crap??? Can you imagine if a Democrat had made that kind of comment?!?!

Sure! Barack Obama would repudiate them and nancy and harry would sponsor a resolution condemning the statements and the statesperson(s)

Exactly!!

There is something very wrong with the Democratic parties communication strategy!!

dennis @ 55:

...I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen....

Your own post betrays you as either a prevaricator, or an individual who seeks out the company of those suffering from early-onset Alzheimer's disease.

Your undoing is the age of your 'five or six guys'. If the oldest was 70 years of age, he would have to be born in 1938, long after the Great Depression. Assuming he was quite sharp, worldly aware, and had an early interest in economics and finance, we'll be extremely generous and say that he became aware of contemporary economic conditions at the tender age of 16, or 1954.

Considering that the federal government just closed IndyMac Bank yesterday, which was the second largest financial institution to fail in American history, when was it exactly, between 1954 on the present day, that your 'wise old sages' say conditions were worse!?!

Why don't you even know how many 'guys' you spoke to, anyway? Can anyone else see the 'guys', or just you?

I used to be bitter, but now I've taken up whining.

dennis @ 80:

Saint Augustine @ 75:

dennis @ 55:

I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen. They all to a man laughed and said not by a long shot, that's it's been so good for so long that most people don't even know what a real recession is like. Are we whiners, I asked. Every one of them said without a doubt we were.

Dennis is a lying piece of shit. I'm 64 and I have never seen it this bad. I talk to young people all the time and remind them that they will probably have to register for a draft if McInsane wins.

By the way, did I mention that Dennis is a lying piece of shit. I read it on the internet, it must be true.

FU, St. Augustine. I don't lie and I'm not lying about the people I talked to. It's just anecdotal; nothing more, nothing less. If you think there is no way a group of older men would think we whine way too much you don't know much about human nature. Most guys I know that age are just glad to be alive and their loved ones are healthy because they know it can all change very quickly.

And you're an asshole. I read that on the internet too.

Anyone in that age range is a baby-boomer. There hasn't been an all-out depression. The reason they are retired is because they did well in the good times, as their investments grew. How about young people starting out? Or those less fortunate, trying to pay the bills today, possibly in debt, and fearing for their job security, with scant wages, realizing they'll maybe never own a house.

Edwin Hussein @ 142:

Anyone in that age range is a baby-boomer. There hasn't been an all-out depression. The reason they are retired is because they did well in the good times, as their investments grew. How about young people starting out? Or those less fortunate, trying to pay the bills today, possibly in debt, and fearing for their job security, with scant wages, realizing they'll maybe never own a house.

I was born in 1944 and I am not a Baby Boomer. The children of returning soldiers are the Baby Boomers. I was a going away present not a welcome home love child.

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 129:

Saint Augustine @ 75:

dennis @ 55:

I talked to five or six guys today, all in their late 50's to 60's, most of them retired, whether this was as bad as they had ever seen. They all to a man laughed and said not by a long shot, that's it's been so good for so long that most people don't even know what a real recession is like. Are we whiners, I asked. Every one of them said without a doubt we were.

Dennis is a lying piece of shit. I'm 64 and I have never seen it this bad. I talk to young people all the time and remind them that they will probably have to register for a draft if McInsane wins.

By the way, did I mention that Dennis is a lying piece of shit. I read it on the internet, it must be true.

Dennis is full of shit. When in the last 50 years has it been this bad? When?

What a coincidence, I too talked to those same 5 or 6 guys and they told me that Dennis is full of shit.

What a small world, eh?

The Dude @ 147:

Hulk @ 131:

Yeah....hell, we should be dancing in the streets. Since the fat cats got a nice hefty tax break, and the price of food and fuel has gone through the roof...we should be HAPPY for the fat cats. They aren't even feeling it.

What an asshole.

I was once told that the ones telling us common folk to tighten our belts are them fat cats, who wear suspenders.

And those fat cats know of what they speak (well, at least when they say crap like that), because it means we're about to get screwed (THEIR form of foreplay).

Nicky @ 105:

See, when you feed a troll, they slobber around the table begging for more and unlike dogs and cats cannot be trained to do their business outside or in a box.

Also, since they never walked through snow to school in Texas they don't understand sarcasm.

Little known fact: Most patriotic America loving guys in their fifties and sixties gave up golf either because their President told them too or they finished walking through the snow to school and figured out what a stupid waste of time it was. Like feeding trolls.

dennis @ 104:

Kanan @ 99:

dennis @ 96:

Nicky @ 91:

And then you brag about trolling on conservative sights and encourage other people to do the same.

Very classy, Nicky.

FYI

I believe the word you're searching for is "sites"

It's no wonder the old men laugh at you on the golf course

No, Kanan, I meant sites. Short for websites.

Thanks for looking out for me, though.

dennis @ 96:

Nicky @ 91:

Hey kid's. I'm back from Nicole's show where I was dead serious. Looks like you folks are feeding trolls again in the form of Dennis. Don't feed trolls. Flush weasels.

And then you brag about trolling on conservative sights and encourage other people to do the same.

Very classy, Nicky.

I don't like to gloat. But note that after my description in #105, and despite some people continuing to offer food from the table, the troll left. Do not feed the trolls.

BTW Nicole, thanks for posting on the other gutsy story Rachel ran on COUNTDOWN on Friday. I have been critical of her elsewhere today, but that story took the kind of cojones most MSM personalities will never have and Jesse Jackson couldn't cut off in a million years. I didn't comment on that thread because my sense of humor and more mundane political outrage were not appropriate for that horror story.