July 14, 2008 05:30 PM
Did you hear John McCain's Woman/Rape/Gorilla Joke?
Do you think John McCain has a little problem with women? His Chelsea Clinton joke was as tasteless as it goes. And of course his answer about birth control and Viagra was classic.
But this 1986 joke during his Senate run is just off the wall.
I managed to dig up this gem from his 1986 race for US Senate, as quoted in the Tucson Citizen:
Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, ‘Where is that marvelous ape?'
I find rape jokes are always a sign of class, don't you?
Pretty disgusting if you ask me. Here's the pdf.
he heard it in POW camp
Now he's SURE to have locked up the women's vote.
For Obama ! :)
Oh, this one ought to be funneeeee.
Oh, I thought there was going to be a link; the joke is right here.
Yeah, that's a good one. So...are Norm Coleman's people going to take McComedian to task or do they save all their pious indignation for democratic opponents? NVM; I know the answer. Flaming hypocrites, every last one these rethugs.
A person who tells a "joke" like that would get his teeth kicked out by my wife.
As much as I'm against digging for skeletons in the closet, this goes way too far. And I don't get even get the joke.
You know what else is funny, the fact that this decaying sack of shit can't straighten his arms.
Oh I'm sorry, was that tasteless? Guess you now know how that feels, right McC*nt?
C_nt be true!
Hillary women are you there?
Now,
if you can't vote for Obama for whatever your reason, please just stay home, this November.
Do you need more?
Don't forget, John McCain--class act that he is--called his wife a "c$*t."
Lest we forget:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Euu_DMhsXQo
Funny thing is if it were Bill Clinton caught with this one the left-wing bloggers would be in damage control full speed, "he was just joking... jeez!"
How is McCain even polling at 40%?
On the other hand, who hasn't called his wife a c*** at some point? Oh...wait...maybe those people are the 40% who support McSame.
Oh McShame. Waka waka. The yuks keep coming.
keep your day job. On second thought, don't.
It must be awful dealing with athlete's mouth.
Fuck me.
The guy was running for Senate and told that joke?
Spread his joke far and wide make sure every woman in America hears it and is outraged by it.
McCains campaign is toast.
Maybe McC*nt has some hidden personal issues which are the source of his anger.
Joe! @ 11:
What a ridiculously mindless and unsupported thing to say. Care to provide any evidence to support this claim. Of course not -- yer talking out of yer a$$ and you know it. Please, if you can't say something intelligent just keep your idiotic blathering to yourself.
The only reason McCain ever passed the sniff test is that he has never run for a high-enough office for any but his immediate constituents to really give a shit.
America hasn't taken congress serious for decades.
And personally, I see no justification in taking them seriously today.
They are now, and always have been complicit in the crimes of the administration. The people are no longer represented; electing a new president will not change this. The Senate and Congress work with uncanny regularity to render each other powerless, proving that representation is but an illusion.
Nothing short of a revolution which replaces all three branches of government will give the country back to the people, but the majority of the people don't seem to have the spine for it.
At this point,only one thing is certain - America as we (thought we) knew it has passed away, and all that's left is to see what she is replaced with.
May she rest in peace.
John McCain has never grown out of a kind of adolescent locker room sexuality that shows both a fear and a contempt for women. McCain may be sexually heterosexual but he is romantically a lover of powerful men. Hence, all the people he really admires are men who have been able to dominate him. His bush-love is a transference of the never to be expressed feelings he had for his dad. I wonder if he even realizes that the repubs have put him up as a sacrificial lamb (or maybe goat would be more appropriate) this time around while they prepare bush the younger for a try in ‘12 or ‘16. Poor John McCain. He may be execrable but he is also so pitiful.
If you read the article, Gorilla wasnt the first word used but a substitute word, maybe it was N*gger or Negro,
that would fit in with the drunken white frat boy meme of the joke.
Joe! @ 11:
Does Bill Clinton have a reputation for telling jokes like that, or are you just a somewhat slow individual?
Hopefully we get this race out of the range of the corrupt media polls and election machines. Here's more information on McCain.
John McCain is an Unstable, Hot Headed Liar, Unfit to be President
http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2008/06/john-mccain-is-unstable...
THE MOST FLAWED PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN HISTORY
http://www.wclt.com//news/special/articledetail.cfm?articleid=23261
McGrampa has the same sense of humor that preznit W has.
They say things that they laugh at, but nobody else does.
The only difference is that McCrazy's jokes are meaner.
They are always about killing Irainians or putting down woman or people younger than him.
And, almost everyone is younger than McGrampa.
So, no one will laugh at his shit.
JinIll @ 16:
Have no doubt I'm against McCain for president. This joke is disgusting and tasteless, especially for a politician to use but taking a 20 something year old piece of dirt and throwing in the campaign circle today is the tactic of slimy politics for both sides of the aisle. You know what I said is true. When it comes down to it, most of us are partisan first and usually not fair.
Even when it's tasteless and crude and offensive and just plain sick, there is usually some vague indication why a joke might be considered 'humorous'. This one I don't get. Why would even the most unreformed Neanderthal consider this funny? I'm asking in all seriousness, where's the joke?
If this is McCain's sense of humour - regardless of how disgusting the content is - he would make a lousy President.
and the other joke at the end of the article, where McCain referred to the retirement community 'Leisure World' as Seizure World.
It's also Racist joke where I grew up in the south mid-west the words Gorilla an Ape are other words for N****r's.
Slaw @ 12:
LOL. Then again, one poll question is astronomically inflated to 72%. According to the Washington Post/ABC News poll currently being bandied about on MSM, that poll allegedly has McCain at 72% to Obama's 48% in regards to " Who would be a better Commander in Chief "
Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
Maybe the woman of the joke troweled on make-up like a trollop and got what she was `askin for. /end snark
Everyone under the age of 90 knows that rape jokes are only funny when it involves a clown.
allinterenettraditions @ 10:
Great clip. Needs to be repeated. True story.
RickMack @ 27:
lol yeah, I guess they polled all 120% of the population to get those numbers..
If you're going to tell tasteless jokes, at least make them funny.
dave @ 26:
That was my take on the use of the word Gorilla in this context.
wow...a really classy guy....I guess we can't even blame it on his age either since it is from 20 years ago....pretty sad that the Internets stores ALL those Memories for him....
Joe! @ 11:
I doubt Bill Clinton would tell a joke like that even in private.
He actually likes women. Lots of them. As often as possible. But he really does like them.
Tasteless cuz it's just not funny.
John Tighe @ 15:
Ole McNasty obviously has a lot of anger issues about women -- commits adultery against his first wife, calls his second wife a trollop and a c*nt, tells derogatory gender jokes, and then jokes about how much a woman raped by a gorilla liked it? He needs to undergo heavy Freudian psychotherapy and explore his relationship with good ole mom. [Deleted-Sitemonitor]
How is this abomination of a 'man' still a presidential candidate ?? How is it possible?? This is sickening.
I have a funny joke though: In Australia there is a frozen food manufacturer...called 'McCain'... and guess what their advertising tagline is?...
...'Ah McCain, you've done it again'... now THAT is funny.
This won't hurt his base.
Republicans care more about 1 cell blastocysts
than rape victims.
Joe! @ 23:
I'm glad to hear you're not voting for mccain. still, can you provide any support for your assertion? most left wingers were never huge fan's of bubba and i certainly can't imagine any left winger or progressive defending anyone making a joke even remotely like this.
and no, i don't know what you said is true. if clinton, or obama, was ever caught making a joke like that, they'd be history in very short order.
and last, this isn't a twenty year old irrelevancy. combined with other well documented jokes, insults as well as his voting record, it paints a disturbing and utterly consistent story of a man unfit to be dogcatcher let alone potus.
At least we now know why the Republicans rejected McNasty back in 2000 and chose the Chimp instead.
I bet a few Repugs back then hit the bottle in disgust at having to pick from either of them.
What is it about the Republican party that so many retarded egotistical malcontents rise to the top in it.
Joe! @ 23:
The 'Bill Clinton' allusion gives the impression that you are some sort of Clinton-fixated ditto-head - which you are not. Since '86 he has made his Chelsea Clinton joke, but that is the only thing else in such poor taste as this gorilla joke, so I would say give him the benefit of the doubt. I think all those years in prison camp really arrested his development. McCain is the old dog who can't learn new tricks yet he is immature at the same time. Weird.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 19:
ehhh... hard to imagine that...
i wouldn't think it would be funny, especially for older white men, to even THINK about a woman enjoying sex with a black guy... isn't that a touchy subject?
an aside, yet related, i wonder if that isn't the big problem that southern whites have with obama -
not so much that he is black, but that his mama had sex with a black man...
know what i mean?
BennyP @ 29 - Everyone under the age of 90 knows that rape jokes are only funny when it involves a clown.
A clown would make this funny? Okay, how about...
...John Wayne Gacy.
Man, you're so right! Now it's hysterical.
McCain will win in November because the American people are the dumbest and most gullible people on earth. Also, women will not be able to resist McCain's animal magnetism.
People in America are attracted to anti-intellectualism and stupidity (witness the current Prez - although he did get a Harvard MBA paid through by his family's endowments).
God, what is it with Republicans and humor? Really, guys, stop trying, it never works for you. Just repulsive.
This reminds me of Clayton Williams - guy was running for Gov. of Texas in the late 80s and joked that rape was like the weather or some such shit - that you're supposed to just "lay down and take it"
Ann Richards kicked his ass
BennyP @ 29:
Or "The Captain and the Cabin Boy..."
Cap'n sez: "Ahrr, little Johnny lean over the rail there and look at them porpoises below." (pronounced por-POYzez)
Cabin Boy Johnny sez: Gee whiz, Cap'n...I don't see any por-POYZEZ!!!!!" (emphasis on the last syllable like when a broomstick or cannon ramrod is shoved up your...well, you get it now...) I wonder if that happened to McCain't in the Navy?
Note: Canadians will recognize that as a very old "Captain Hind-Grinder" joke.
Did you hear John McCain’s Woman/Rape/Gorilla Joke?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwHWbsvgQUE
How is it possible that America has produced another candidate for president even more blood thirsty,tasteless,insensitive and stupid than Bush?
Jesus wept.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 40:
Pliability.
Reagan was losing his marbles before he was elected, the handlers knew right away even tho it didn't became (blatantly) obvious to the population till near the end of his term.
Clinton put the final bullet into the fairness doctrine which turned the media into the administration's most powerful weapon of mass destruction.
GW is a complete retard, I don't need to elaborate.
That leaves daddy bush who did big-oil's bidding and produced Act 1 of "the grand corporate takeover of America". Is he one of the handlers, or just a fool? The possibility of "both" remains.
Anyway... I think it is historically proven that the presumptive candidates are chosen by the shadow group based on how easy it will be to turn them into sock-puppets.
To be honest, I don't find humor of any kind to be representative of a person, especially in a negative way. I know John McCain for what he is, and his humor doesn't shape my view of him one single bit. I find most of you hypocrytical for ganging up on him like that, but perhaps it's the broken PC society you live in (assuming most of you are US citizens). From outside, it seems like you'd be defending Obama for a crude joke mishap if he was being attacked by the right.
Humor is humor, nothing is off limits. If you find humor 'tasteless', perhaps you should reexamine yourself and become a conservative/republican/value voter.
I do see this as potentially very damaging for his campaign, but that's another story. It has nothing to do with the moral implications of his choice of jokes, but with the political world you (we) live in, where soundbites shape everything, and the negative ones linger longest.
Lolaprincess @ 37:
Just like my favorite cartoon series of the 60's, "Mr. McGoo," whose frequent refrain in praising himself - "Ach, McGoo... you've done it again." It usually followed after he'd screwed something up royally, or driven the wrong way down a one-way street, but he was too myoptic and bullheaded to understand what he'd just done. That fit's McCain't to a "t"! Thanks for the trip down memory lane. (:>
Hillary/McGrampa supporters don't care.
What a crude person McCain is and he wants to be President? OMG at times he sounds worse than Bush if that is possible
Although I can see McCain telling just about any off color joke, I'm not convinced that he said this one. Neither source was contacted by the paper, and there doesn't seem to be any articles later.
The Killian Memo was a milestone for me, and I certainly don't need all the skeletons in a candidate's closet to form an opinion about them. This McCain joke may be confirmed as fact in other follow ups, but I don't need it for proof— I already know that McCain is a misogynist and I'm not voting for him for plenty of other reasons.
Joe! @ 11:
Hahaha,...Clinton!
You're not from around here are ya, laddy?
Nikola @ 51:
do you honestly believe jokes people tell say nothing about them? that's pretty naive don't you think?
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 53:
Oh just wait till the feminists hear about this.
They will care.
I'm guessing if that woman is still alive today, she is one of the %5 who think Bush is doing a good job.
Q: Which has the largest penis, the human or the gorilla.
A: The human…
Q: Which is more faithful to its mate, the human or the gorilla.
A: The gorilla…
Q: Which is more intelligent, the human or the gorilla.
A: It depends…
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Rape and violence towards women is not something that you should joke about with anyone.
Can you imagine the shitstorm if Barack Obama said this?
JinIll @ 57:
Naive?
Let me put it this way;
Just as being shot down in a fighter plane and being a POW doesn't make someone automatically fit for President, so having a 'crude' sense of humor doesn't make one unfit.
Nice to see that that walking piece of human waste Torie Clarke was involved in his campaign.
And the joke aside from its tastelessness isn't funny on any level. Did anyone even get where the funny was supposed to be?
Jokes like this are all the rage at the country club...
Gorillas for McCain.
Nikola @ 62:
I guess I'm the naive one who would like to vote for a president who will have some respect for others. It's sorely lacking at the moment. These types of jokes are simple putdowns and bullying in nature. I've had enough.
The Truth Hurts @ 7:
Q: Why is John McCain so sexually frustrated?
A: See above
(I despise him more each day!)
CDR @ 38:
So, so sad but true.
60 Alice X (Chomsky Nader) status quObama - change you can pretend in - Says: Q: Which has the largest penis, the human or the gorilla.
A: The human…
Q: Which is more faithful to its mate, the human or the gorilla.
A: The gorilla…
Q: Which is more intelligent, the human or the gorilla.
A: It depends…
Isn't mccain in Depends?
Nikola @ 62:
if his sense of humor was merely crude, that would be one thing. but this indicates a misogyny and acceptance of violence toward women that marks him as an emotionally stunted wretch.
btw, what nationality are you? are you not insulted by jokes about your nationality, ethnicity, religion, etc? i highly doubt it...
By the way, the joke is just a cruder version of any number of jokes, which you can find everywhere.
It obviously references a difference between 'rape' and 'ravish'.
A: The woman was ravished.
B: Raped?
A: No, ravished.
B: What's the difference?
A: Noone complains after being ravished.
Get it?
Perhaps you should get off your high moral horses and start criticizing McCain for the things that matter. God knows that there are plenty of his policy suggestions to disassemble.
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Maureen Meyer @ 197:
Take it from me, a man who makes a sexist joke like that is invariably a crappy lover.
In fact, a man who insults his lover in front of reporters is also a crappy lover.
New bumper sticker idea below:
Don't Vote McCain: Lousy Lovers Make Lousy Presidents
How about Flush the John 2008.<<
http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/flus...
DivaBabe @ 66:
maybe the chicken hawk chicken-wings it... lol
Nikola @ 62 - Just as being shot down in a fighter plane and being a POW doesn’t make someone automatically fit for President, so having a ‘crude’ sense of humor doesn’t make one unfit.
Just a wee flaw in your logic there. Bad luck wouldn't make someone unfit for President. Bad judgment, however, certainly does. And this joke is certainly evidence of bad, bad judgment.
Not only is he an idiot, his sense of humor sucks too. Don't you hate it when someone tells you a joke they think is just hiliarious and you fake a laugh to be polite even though you think they are corny?
Nikola @ 75:
Then do us all a favor here and stick to your own kind. No one here appreciates your appreciation of that "humor".
Nikola @ 70, re: the difference between raped and ravished. At what point in 'attacked, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die' can it even remotely be confused with 'ravished'?
You've now crossed the line between just mildly offensive to full-blown repugnance.
I don't get it.
This is the guy who also joked in public about beating his wife, kicking his dog, and bombing Iran.
McNasty is a mean old man with a sick and demented sense of humour.
nonny mouse @ 78:
He's just trying to be provacative. I say ignore him.
(I doubt he's from Croatia, btw.)
seth @ 74:
I don't laugh at jokes that are not funny. McCain's joke was not funny, it was stupid.
Nikola @ 75:
That's a good one! LOL
Gorillas run around all the time. That makes it so realistic.
Almost as good as the "bomb bomb bomb Iran" or the classic "let's kill the Iranian's by selling them more cigarettes". What a cracker!
Chuffy @ 77:
That's because it's not funny.
Ron @ 80:
You know what? I want names of who thought it was funny!!!
When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, ‘Where is that marvelous ape?’
Here's her reaction that follows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP_NKCV_Dn0
Joker @ 82:
Can you imagine the backlash if Obama called McLame a cracker? (sorry, couldn't resist)
Captain Hind-Grinder: "Ahrr, little Johnny, have you ever been in a storm at sea?"
Johnny the Cabin Boy: "No, Cap'n Hind-Grinder, but i've been blown ashore!"
Another one for the Canadians out there.
(Sorry about the off-topicness" of this post...I couldn't help myself.)
Nikola is a repub troll -- they're always so obvious. looks like it's been banned...
JinIll @ 89:
i guess it's not banned.
I value women and don't find "rape jokes" funny under any condition.
I don't find jokes about Black people eating fried chicken and watermelon funny either.
If a public official does,it is a clear reflection of his world view and all the reason I need not to vote for him.
Its quite simple.
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Nikola @ 52:
Yeah, yeah, comedy is dangerous etc.etc. Only if you are a COMEDIAN!! Is that what McCain is? Oh, wait......
What a crock of crap. "Humor" if you would like to call it that, is very telling. Especially in instances like this. If a person running for publix office feels comfortable telling a racist, mysogynistic joke, (in public, no less) it is because he is a racist and a mysogynist.
Get it?
Pontificate all you want about our overly pc culture blah blah blah. Where are YOU from that this kind of joke would fly from a public official?
nonny mouse @ 24:
Where's the joke? It's supposed to reveal the secret truth that all woman are just wanton sluts who love to be beaten and f*cked till they pass out, no matter what they say *wink, wink* Isn't THAT funny?? Real Presidential, isn't it?
If McCain truly said this and thinks this is funny, I'd say he's a real Bastard, not just a horrible candidate. And I feel sorry for his daughters, not to mention his wife (wives).
And I have a whole new reason why McCain gives me the creeps.
how about digging up the memo McKeatingFive wrote when Obama reached across the aisle to try to get co-sponsorship for a bill in the senate.
This senile pig said that he "knows how to win wars." to the press today. To McCain I ask this: Oh, do you mean the war called Vietnam that you evidently won single handed from a bamboo rat cage and forgot to tell the world? Jeebus bitch, let's see the list of the wars,(yes he said war in the plural) you've won.
did you hear the joke about the senator who took bribes from a crook to quash an investigation into the crooks business dealings. the senator should be getting out of prison about now except he was above the law and never had to go to prison.
JinIll @ 91:
fair enough. notice how 'joel' disappeared just before 'nikola' showed up. this is sorta off topic but also sorta not: i'm guessing it was the same gop troll...
Yep, what America needs is another sadistic fool in the White House.
Capt. Bat Hussein Guano @ 95:
I originally wrote this as "This fucking senile pig......", when did the language police show up? I find the word fuck useful in communicating the depth of emotion I have for a given issue/person/situation. WTF?
I think we need to get real.
When Clayton Williams made his rape and weather joke it was WHILE he was running for governor of Texas.
None of us are the same as we were 22 years ago
Some weren't born yet
And as for myself
I used to be a real stoned out sicko.
Nikola @ 96:
samdog, we canucks appreciate your sense of humour very much, hehe.
First with the Obama/New Yorker cover, now this.
Was this "tasteless"? Not really. My father tells much worse jokes, and I don't clutch my pearls and gasp when he does.
Can this be used as an attack against McCain? Holy F. Yes!!! Use the shit out of it, hit him again and again with it. But, it's a joke.
nikola,
if you're not a troll you sure do a good impression of one, talking points and all. please spare us the lectures about sparing the lectures. jokes are a reflection of the people who make them and who find them funny. again, if you can't or won't grasp this simple truth of human nature, you're not in a position to pontificate to others.
calgarylady @ 78:
Its the same with child abuse, parent beat theirs kid, the kid is more likely than a non beaten kids to beat their own kids when they are adults.
Ditto with PTSD and long term POWs, McNasty shows all the traits of a beaten person, he gets his revenge on others for slights done to him in previous years.
Its mostly in tasteless jokes, bad attitude and behaviour to others and Congressional power, nobody has shown him to be anything beyond a cowardly bully, he says FU to people he knows wont hit back or even say the same back out of deference to his warhero record...
McNasty a classic cowardly bully in the traditional sense, they only attack people weaker than themselves, a Republican trait.
ysbaddaden @ 100:
McCain would've been 50 freakin' years old when he said this!!
Joking that women secretly want to be raped and beaten isn't funny. Period. And anyone who thinks it is, is wrong in the head. Period.
McCain's more recent attempts at humor don't indicate that he's changed much...
JinIll @ 104:
What???
Oh please. George Carlin, Lenny Bruce, Bill Hicks and Richard Pryor are rolling over in their graves.
One very important thing, theres a world of difference between telling a sick tasteless or not quite PC jokes to your drinking buddies in private,
and telling the same joke to a mixed audience in public.
Ditto with sex in public and private places, notice its the Repugs that generally get caught doing naughty things in public places.
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ferrofluid, so true. McNasty is so much like dubya ... the thought of him in the White House, settling old scores, is terrifying.
ysbaddaden @ 100:
Whatever you did 22 years ago is irrelevant, but McCain's attitude towards women does not show any sign of significant evolution.
I came to the conclusion the only way to fight the Repugs is to fight them just as dirty.
All you need is a Rove like person.
These guys will do and say anything
Jesus Hussein Christ @ 107:
And none are running for president.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 105:
So very much like Bush......
Capt. Bat Hussein Guano @ 95:
Thats in the same league as when Chimpy said to a NBC camera crew at the 1988 RNC convention (video on Youtube), how the TANG could have won the Vietnam war "IF they had been there".
Of course Chimpy being the AWOL repug scumbag he was, didnt know that his fellow TANG (and other ANG) pilots were over there in Vietnam dying while he was boozing and partying away the nights in safety in the US.
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When will the media report the truth about John McCain? We actually would win all 50 states if they did.
site monitor,
sorry, didn't see your request to stop. i'm done with it.
Jesus Hussein Christ @ 107:
But they were comedians, and clever, and funny. They weren't your racist uncle at a backyard barbeque. Who then decided to run for public office and use his same yuk yuk backyard jokes on the campaign trail. I suppose ultimately I don't care as I am not voting for him anyway, but there is a difference.
Dave from queens @ 117:
Wouldn't that be nice? Think of all the other ways we could spend our energies and money!
Funnier than a Mexican donkey show. I'm sure he's just demonstrating that the hair is gray but the heart is still all soldier.
Fanon @ 119:
I don't believe that makes a bit of a difference. "clever" and "funny" are subjective, so there's no standard.
As for McCain being a politician and telling this particular joke, I don't think anyone cept for a few pearl-clutchers were "hurt" by it.
The "bomb iran" joke is very, very different because McCain may in fact bomb Iran!! However, McCain is not going to promote ape-on-woman sexual affairs. And therein lies the difference between a joke, and a completely fucked up thing to say.
But, as I said before.. Anything we can use as ammo to demolish this asshat and keep him away from the shiny-red-button, bring it on!
Jesus Hussein Christ @ 122:
Evolve, already! Do you seriously think that any rape victims thought this amusing? How about any rape victim's family or friends? How about rape counselors, law-enforcement, medical personnel who help rape victims? Not to mention evolved humans who find that type of violence repulsive? Do you really want to keep your stupid rant going????
Jesus @ 122
Well, I guess we'll just disagree. I don't think of myself as a pearl clutcher, I just think if you want to propose that you are capable of being the leader of the nation, you should be better behaved than a frat boy at a kegger. Look what happened with the last one!!
Oh, and you should probably be able to tell the difference between Shia and Sunni and know that there is no such country as Czechoslovakia anymore!
I was raped in 1983. That was a long time ago. Not funny in 83. Not funny in 86. Not funny in 2008. Perhaps being a POW desensitized him. I was only raped once. Maybe he was raped multiple times and this was a coping device...
Nope. Doesn't make sense. Must be a pri@k.
Fanon @ 124:
That wasn't an attempt at humor and is therefore an open example of his incompetence.
Use the ammo he gives you, don't attack his jokes.
Nikola @ 126:
Bite me
DivaBabe @ 123:
We can debate this forever and ever.
But see, the thing is, that you'd have to eliminate %90 of all jokes on the planet if you're concerned about offending someone, somewhere. Yes, rape is bad, we all understand this. But I guess we'd have to refrain from redneck jokes, polish jokes, blonde jokes, brittney spears jokes, incest jokes (or is that covered under the "redneck" category? anyway..)
Yes, it's bad when a politician running for POTUS uses jokes like this. But, I don't know what percentage of the US population represents the raped-by-an-ape segment. But, it's probably a safe bet it's very small.
And Fanon, I agree with you %10000000000000.
Nikola @ 126:
Why not? A person's sense of what they see as humor reveals much. Case in point-you.
DivaBabe @ 123:
You can find someone 'offended' by 90% jokes told. Where do we draw the line? Why not just recognize it all as humor?
He's a sick f*ck. No doubts.
Jesus Hussein Christ @ 128:
Holy crap are you my twin brother or something?
Ruth @ 125:
My sympathies, Ruth. The fact that you must also endure such ignorant jokes and those that find them humorous is sad, to say the least.
Nikola @ 130:
Nikola @ 130:
Quote your source for the "90%" claim.
btw: I don't even really understand the joke.
Where's the joke part? It's kind of not funny as in it is confusing, not as in it hurts people.
I really can't believe that we have to debate whether someone's sense of humor is indicative of their psychology and emotional development. if jokes weren't relevant, they wouldn't have the potential to be funny to some people. how do some people not get that?
Nikola @ 71:
Oh, God, what an idiot. Well, perhaps a few lifetimes will set you straight. I have a feeling you won't get it in this one.
JinIll @ 136:
Too many un-clutched pearls that need clutching?
Dunno, but I do always appreciate a good debate, just as long as it doesn't turn insulting. I mean, we're all supposedly on the same side here right?
Eventually, someone will be called a troll, and then the obligatory "You know who else told rape jokes? Hitler!!!!"
JinIll @ 136:
Of course it's indicative. Everything is indicative of something. That doesn't mean you interpret it right.
Jesus Hussein Christ @ 135:
King Kong Dong.
John McCain is a douche, but not because of this joke.
Anonymous Hussein @ 137:
Someone should ask him if he would think it was funny if the joke was about his daughter.
Jesus Hussein Christ @ 135:
People who liked to tell a certain type of racist joke back then coundnt say the N word in public,
so they used Gorilla as a code word instead. Is it clear now?
Jesus Hussein Christ @ 138:
oh, leave off with the pearl clutching meme already. that was mildly amusing five decades ago. being offended by hallucinated hitler reference? yer reaching.
is it really your position that sense of humor tells nothing about a person?
It doesn't matter whether or not it was funny to anyone. It matters whether or not it was appropriate, and it wasn't. Go to work tomorrow and tell this joke during your staff meeting and see what happens. It's not appropriate and it shows a lack of judgement and empathy. I guess that's what I really want to say.
I just got a book of "1001 Dirty Limericks", and the entire thing is offensive... to someone.
There's jokes in there about every swath of humanity, and every issue out there. But, it's not a novel, it's not a frontpage story in a major newspaper. It's a book of jokes.
"You know who else told rape jokes? HITLER!!!"
As Presidential Humor goes, that's right up there with Abraham Lincoln and JFK, right?
(ok, not really...)
Nikola @ 142:
I'll be equally generous and let your argument that finding this type of remark offensive is over-reacting be your choice.
Fanon @ 146:
nice. very well said. i'm sure none of the 'it's-just-s-joke' crowd would repeat the joke at work.
And right here is why the repugs win.
Y'all are ripping each other new assholes over a joke that wasn't even uttered by your candidate.. meanwhile, the repugs are cohesive. "Heckova job, brownie. doesn't matter that you blew it like a 2 dollah crack whore, because no matter how often we drop the ball we are all on the same team while them other guys do nothing but bitch each other out". That has been their MO from day one, and they are still doing it.
Meanwhile, the democratic party is squawking about Obama's vote on FISA (which is a major issue) and fighting endlessly amongst themselves over trivial things; and those who were thinking of voting blue are now taking pause because the Dems show all the symptoms of having no idea what direction to go.
McCain is tossing you a steady stream of grenades. Pull the pins and throw them back at the idiot, there is no need to nit-pick given the abundance of legitimate huge McCain/Republican screwups.
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