McCain's Campaign Whines About Mean Ol' Press Fact Checking His Lies
By Nicole Belle Monday Sep 22, 2008 7:30amJohn already linked the brilliantly apt video in last night's Open Thread. McCain's Media is shriveling up and they're starting to point out inconsistencies...what's a campaign spokesman to do? Be a WATB, naturally.
Hah. So. John McCain's campaign got pissed off at the New York Times for reporting a kinda tenuous connection (Note from Nicole: Kinda tenuous? $30,000 a month to lobby on behalf of Fannie Mae is hardly tenuous) between McCain campaign manager Rick Davis and Fannie Mae. So strategist Steve Schmidt, who is increasingly insane and unhinged and so un-Rove-like in his Rovian tactics, held a conference call to attack the Times. "Whatever the New York Times once was, it is today, not by any standard a journalistic organization. It is a pro-Obama advocacy organization that every day attacks the McCain Campaign, attacks Senator McCain, attacks Governor Palin, and excuses Senator Obama," Schmidt sputtered. So, hah, if Politico's Ben Smith's writeup of the call is any indication, this media-attacking will backfire! "But the call was so rife with simple, often inexplicable misstatements of fact," Smith writes, "that it may have had the opposite effect: to deepen the perception, dangerous to McCain, that he and his aides have little regard for factual accuracy"
Watch out, Ben, next thing you'll know, The Politico will be on the McCain sh*tlist too. Glamour Magazine (really, Glamour? What are they doing interviewing McCain?) already is. As the Washington Independent puts it, if you point out their lies, you're in the tank for Obama, as far at the McCain camp is concerned. TRex has a hilarious take...
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Whaddya' expect from a guy who received an early Endorsement from The National Enquirer
The truth is a bitch Johnny. Get ready, cause it's comin your way.
Speaking of the press being mean to the McCain camp, everyone read this. http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=722741
"McCain also took a few friendly questions from the audience, including one from a woman who asked why news organizations had committed so many investigative reporters to look into the background of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, McCain's running mate.
'Shame on you, shame on you,' the woman shouted at the assembled reporters to applause, while McCain looked on approvingly."
This isn't new. The republican meme has been to complain about bias for as long as I can remember
Another nominee for the McCain sh*tlist? Rolling Stone Magazine's feature "Mad Dog Palin" by Matt Taiibi...the graphic of Palin's head superimposed on a pitbull is worth the cover price all on its own.
My what tangled web we weave a hundred times over and these idiots are so callous they think they can still get away with it. They think they are smarter than what 80% of the public. When will the media finally wake up. Will they willingly continue to engage in intentional ingnorance.
My local newpaper editiorial has Bush acting decisively in wake of the economic crisis and they blame, guess who, for putting up a roadblock? Rep. Barney Frank! Can you believe it. It's known as a republican rag aroung here and its the only game in town. But it is representative of the smoke and mirrors going up all over the U.S.
McCain against NYT
Their criticism filled with errors (lies) on Obama and Biden
Politico
Burton Response: NYT's tougher on Obama, Keating 5 anyone?
Press secretary Bill Burton responded today in an e-mail to reporters about the "McCain campaign's laughable screed about coverage in the NY Times," the latest (of many) swings the campaign's taken against the paper this year. Burton writes:
# of probing stories the NY Times has written over the course of the campaign about Barack Obama, his life, his religion, his childhood, his politics, his time in the state senate, his time in the U.S. Senate, his family, his religion, his friends, his fundraising and all other manner of associations: more than 40 (see below)
# of stories the NY Times has written over the course of the campaign about the last major financial regulatory crisis, resulting in a huge bailout, and which John McCain was centrally involved in with his political godfather Charles Keating: 0
First rule of politics, never speak when your opponent is in the process of immolating himself.
"The economy is fundamentally sound" - John McCain
"I think deregulation has helped our economy grow the last 8 years". - John McCain
John McSame, Sara or is that Sarah Palin, a.k.a. Caribou Barbie, and the entire McSame campaign are L I A R S plain and simple. You don't have to dig at all to know that. I also think they're all a bunch of losers too, but that's just my personal opinion.
nel @ 4:
except when it works in their favor, right?
John J @ 7:
Oh no! They certainly wouldn't want anyone to think they play fast and loose with facts!
The lies:
"His son is a lobbyist for the credit card and banking industry," Schmidt said of Joe Biden. Biden's son Hunter is a lobbyist, and once worked for MBNA, but he has never lobbied for banks or credit card companies.
"Senator Obama began his political career in its early stages raising money at [William] Ayers' house," he said. Obama had an event there in 1995, but it wasn't a fundraiser, and Ayers never donated to Obama's first campaign.
"As soon as Gov. Palin was nominated, one of … Obama’s chief campaign surrogates, [Florida Rep.] Robert Wexler, went out and accused her of being a Nazi sympathizer," Schmidt said. Well. Leaving aside whether or not Wexler is one of Obama's "top surrogates," all Wexler did was call Pat Buchanan a Nazi sympathizer, and say Palin supported Buchanan in 1996. Which Buchanan, at the time, was claiming she did! (Palin eventually said she endorsed Steve Forbes.)
right on! @ 10:
Blahhhh Fairness Doctrine is an end to free speech as we know it ... oh wait you want to say negative things about us? BIAS!!!! In the Tank!!!!
Grandpa will be buried under the rubble of Wall Street.
Gas prices going up. Wanna know why. Because the government warned Wall Street not to speculate in real estate, but said nothing about petroleum. So...the speculators are bidding up the prices again in order to improve their balance sheets.
This should be the mantra of the week. Attacking crooks on Wall Street, attacking speculators, attacking public bailouts of failed private companies. Bring up the cost of the war, bring up the fact that the GOP goal was and still is to privatize Social Security. Point to airline deregulation, point to ALL of energy deregulation, bring up the Bush Administration's ties to Enron and tie McCain to it.
Nicole is correct when she brings up the Keating 5. I believe that that issue is going to be raised, just not yet. Barack Obama has run, in my overall opinion, a good steady race. Would I have liked to see more aggression? Yes. But I understand the tightrope he has to walk because of his race. He's picked his spots, and his method of attack. My speculation is that he is holding the Keating 5 attacks in arrears, and simply waiting to use it as a coup de grace. First rule of poker, never show your hand. The McCain campaign is in a panic, and in a panic you make mistakes. I believe that they believe that Obama cannot raise the S&L crisis, because it exposes him on Resco. That, in my opinion is a fatal mistake.
The first debate is on foreign policy, and if I were calling the shots...I would tie the mistake of the war to the problems with our economy and our national budget. I would use the "we took our eye off the ball" argument, and show how those wasted dollars have cost us our economy and essentially lost Afghanistan...AND not made us any safer.
THEN...in the second debate...on the economy...I pull out the Keating 5 and finish off Grandpa and the GOP once and for all.
Army prepares for martial law
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
joshsirjoshules @ 3:
To quote one of my favourite movie websites .... PLANT!
corollary: Maybe one of the reasons they were sending so many reporters is because almost no-one knew very much about her and thought that might be a good idea while she is in the running for what is technically the second most powerful job in the world???
"Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama."
By Republican George F. Will
McCain Loses His Head
Shan @ 15:
McCain appearances are planned. Attendees are invitation only, and you have to have signed your oath of loyalty. Same movie, different ignorant candidate.
You won't see McCain walking through any auto plants anymore. Maybe he should take a walk down Wall Street.
right on! @ 10:
Nah... they still complain even when the SCUM (So Called Unbiased Media; Woody's term, I think) are tossing softballs. Hence the preponderent "Libbrill Media" epithet.
*Breaking*
Wall Street are Terrorists!!
Online Journal
Financial terrorism: US taxpayers bail out Wall Street criminals
LOL
motorfingaz @ 16:
George Will? Oh gawwd...talk about someone who has lost his way. That man hasn't had a coherent thought in 20 years.
I love that all you have to do is tell the truth about the mcstain campaign and they go off like you walked in and threatened them with a gun. It's cartoonish in it's hilarity and very telling all around.
The Trex article was great :D The 'sucking chest wound' reference was apt.
It's really nice to see some of the media waking the hell up. I'd like to see a little truth telling across the board. Who knows, it might start a trend.
It's also nice to hear the mcstain campaign falling to pieces because they can't just lie with impunity any more. Oh the noes! Someone is actually fact checking and telling other people about the lies!
I imagine their first priority is not to stop lying but to find and stop the fact checkers.
Thats the reslug way after all.
Latimes:
Sarah Palin said yes, thanks, to a road to nowhere in Alaska
DC @ 14:
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They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.
Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.
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Why, I thought these were duties typically assigned to National Guard troops...
Uber-conservative George Will picks up the McCain football and deflates it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/22/AR200809...
live by the celebrity press corps, die by the celebrity press corps
Wow. Now if only more people in the MSM could call a spade a spade, and tell the truth about McCain campaign lies more often, instead of whitewashing their accounts.
fastfeat @ 23:
National Guard is kinda busy overseas ... at least their folks and equipment. ok, so is the army, but they'll just delegate to Blackwater ... i'm just not sure yet what kind of "national emergency" will happen between election and inauguration.
It's always the same with the Repukes, complain about the MSM which they know they have in their pockets due to the corporations that own them. To the morons that vote for Repukes they continually get the impression (they are not hard to fool) that the MSM is "liberal". Hey it works.
Now that the repubs have decided to blame the crisis in the economy on loans to minorities, should someone point out that Davis (McCain's man) pushed for loans to minorities.
It must be just a coincidence that Lou Dobbs and Bill O'Reilly also pushed the same mean ol liberal press line yesterday too.
Dobbs, from the Insane Independent Party, really pushed it farther over the top than even O'Really would go - to the point of demanding SNL do a sketch about incest in Obamas family. But he's too starved of brain cells, and ratings, to listen to his own reporter who said (a), the coverage by SNL has actually been pretty balanced and (b), that SNL didn't bash Palin about incest and c) that it was SNL who bashed the uber liberal NYT, in a sketch about the NYT writers doing a fake story about Palin on incest.
BTW, the Insane Independent Party of 2, of which Lieberman is #1 and Dobbs is #2, are in fact as un-Independent as you'll find, being in reality nothing more than blood sucking ticks riding on the backs of any dog who needs a friend - until the tick has it's ass bit, or the dog dies.
As a liberal and a war veteran, I am always shocked by the degree that the war party supporters are pussies.
They cannot handle any criticism. When you try to ask why they don't fight the war they support, they scream that you want them sent to the front (which they normally try to convince people is a far more stable place than it really is).
Accountability? Phhht. It's never their fault.
Despite their sabre-rattling and tough talk, they are really some of the biggest pussies ever.
It is time for all of the media to stop pussy footing around and call McInsane and his campaign's lies what they are: LIES!!! Every statement any of them make which is not the truth, or distorts the truth needs to be called for what it is, a LIE. A person who tells lies has a proper name: LIAR! Clearly, time and again McInsane and flammin' Palin are LIARS! And they need to be named as such without any reservations or hesitation. Will they whine and cry and complain that the media etc are in the tank for Obama? You bet! But let them. It proves to all but the dumbest RETHUGLICANS that McInane and company are unfit to hold ANY public office. Certainly not ready to be President. Send him packing back to his multiple houses and cars. And, GOOD RIDDANCE!
Tim in Japan @ 31:
Here in Phoenix we've had a handful of the ASU "Young Republicans" turn up at antiwar and political rallies as counterdemonstrators.
They look healthy, if a bit doughy, and do not seem to comprehend the irony of their cause.
Maybe they don't know where the recruiters office is located?
I overheard a couple of the pastey pudgy doughballs congratulating themselves on "protecting the integrity of the mission on the home front."
nel @ 4:
Blame it on the "lib'rul media." You know, McCain's "base"?
Blah, blah, blah. "When we're up, it's because we're great. When we're down, it's somebody else's fault."
Sound a little like "privatize the profits, socialize the losses" to anyone else?
what I get from the republicans is that when its the truth, its liberal. They are not complaining otherwise.
Mick Piobr @ 33:
Mick,
I see where you are coming from but I believe it goes further. republicans, and neo-cons in particular, never seem to be able to bring themselves to accept blame or guilt. After the 2006 elections, the thing I noticed most from the neo-con community was not that their agenda was contrary to the desires of America and not that they campaigned poorly. No...after the 2006 elections, they just went silent for about a week and after that, pure denial. It was like Harry Potter mentioning "Voldemort."
However, back to the yellow elephant thing, I am moving back to the United States tomorrow after living in Japan for 17 years. I will also be moving to a strong red state. I WILL be causing some havoc at pro-war rallies, believe me.
Tim in Japan @ 36:
With deepest sympathies, welcome back...
"...quibbling with ridiculously small details when the basic things are completely right.”
Interesting how those ridiculously small details make all the difference in the world between truth and a carefully crafted deception.
I never thought I'd see the day when somebody could top the Bush junta's records for mendacity. I find that worrisome, because it may not just be a group of people who have so estranged themselves from reality with their lies, deceptions and rationalizations that they effectively rendered themselves insane. A more sinister interpretation is the one that happens in every successful overthrow of a free society, in which that society is lost from within to tyranny. Subversion and eventual destruction of a free society is always a slow process. Until the end game is played out, the subverting tyrants in waiting must invest a lot of time, energy and resources in maintaining a public pretense that they are champions and defenders of liberal, free democracy and the institutions ans laws that allow it to continue to exist, while throughout that time they quietly and without much notice cosolidate their power. If they can proceed without discovery or impediment, they eventually reach a point where their grasp on power is no longer vulnerable to being checked by the power of the People. As that point is reached, the tyrants' confidence and arrogance increases. Finally, their grasp on power becomes so secure that they no longer fell the need to maintain their long-practiced public pretense that they are servants, champions and defender of liberty and democracy. And, the pretense is shed. This stage is only reached when the tyrants in waiting feel certain that they are untouchable and the power they grasp cannot be pried from their hands be any means.
At that point, lies are told with malign glee, no longer floated as devices intended to cover or justify shady acts of subversion and power acquisition, but as acts of bottomless contempt and spite. The lying is transformed into a rite of passage.
Simultaneously, liberties continue to be crushed.. but the excuses become progressively more shabby, until none are offered at all. Acts of tyranny are openly and routinely committed, without apologies or excuses offered. The intsitutions and powers of the state become openly repressive, and law enforcement becomes a ubiquitous feature of a government that finally exists solely in order to rigidly control the subjects, whose grand misfortune is to be a citizens of the tyrannical state. Thereafter, government exists to ensure that only the few are benefited and that all others live only to serve those few.
The incomprehensible, in-your-face, leeringly contempuous dishonesty that is coming from the McCain camp may not be the earmarks of the delusional fantasies of those who are deeply estranged from reality, but rather signs of the final shedding of the tyrant's pretense. They may be convinced that they are in the endgame that only they can win.
Watch out, Ben, next thing you’ll know, The Politico will be on the McCain sh*tlist too. Glamour Magazine (really, Glamour? What are they doing interviewing McCain?) already is.
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What about 16 magazine and Tiger Beat?
John McCain declares war on facts.
The MSM is still a bunch of p*ssies. CNN should replace Wolf Blitzer with Joy Behar. I'm still waiting for them to talk about the Keating five.
Tim in Japan @ 36:
Mick Piobr @ 33:
Tim in Japan @ 31:
As a liberal and a war veteran, I am always shocked by the degree that the war party supporters are pussies.
They cannot handle any criticism. When you try to ask why they don’t fight the war they support, they scream that you want them sent to the front (which they normally try to convince people is a far more stable place than it really is).
Accountability? Phhht. It’s never their fault.
Despite their sabre-rattling and tough talk, they are really some of the biggest pussies ever.
Here in Phoenix we’ve had a handful of the ASU “Young Republicans” turn up at antiwar and political rallies as counterdemonstrators.
They look healthy, if a bit doughy, and do not seem to comprehend the irony of their cause.
Maybe they don’t know where the recruiters office is located?
I overheard a couple of the pastey pudgy doughballs congratulating themselves on “protecting the integrity of the mission on the home front.”
Mick,
I see where you are coming from but I believe it goes further. republicans, and neo-cons in particular, never seem to be able to bring themselves to accept blame or guilt. After the 2006 elections, the thing I noticed most from the neo-con community was not that their agenda was contrary to the desires of America and not that they campaigned poorly. No…after the 2006 elections, they just went silent for about a week and after that, pure denial. It was like Harry Potter mentioning “Voldemort.”
However, back to the yellow elephant thing, I am moving back to the United States tomorrow after living in Japan for 17 years. I will also be moving to a strong red state. I WILL be causing some havoc at pro-war rallies, believe me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWPE_VkssEw
40 StirFry Says: John McCain declares war on facts.
The MSM is still a bunch of p*ssies. CNN should replace Wolf Blitzer with Joy Behar. I’m still waiting for them to talk about the Keating five.
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Panssies?
Can someone explain to me why there are supposedly so many undecided voters at this point in the campaign?
How on earth could someone be undecided, assuming they did the bare minimum of research? What exactly would they be waiting for at this point?
I doubt many of these people even know who the candidates are, or what the major issues are? If they did, the choice is clear............four more years of precipitous decline of our economy, our standing in the world, and our country as a whole; or meaningful change that takes us on a different path and far away from the 'trickle down' philosophy of conservative Republicans?
You know what you're going to get with McCain - Palin? How would any rational person think that is acceptable at any level?
McCain-Plain have a "you are either with us or you are against us," philosophy that reveals itself in their response to the press and if they are elected would guide all their attempts at domestic and foreign policy. Anyone disagreeing or pointing out their lies, mistakes or short comings would be blackballed and the effect would freeze any dissent.
FS
fastfeat @ 37:
Thank you for the welcome. I am looking forward to it. I am coming back to take a big promotion where I hope I can do some real good, and get paid well for it. My current and next job are with the DoD and I will have a good chance to fight a lot of the propaganda that is peddled to our troops.
Ever since I joined the Navy in 1991, I have heard nothing about the horrors of a Democratic administration on the military. They talk a lot about how funding will be cut and that the military will suffer. In all fairness, my world was the Navy and the Navy got the royal treatment from Reagan. They were heady days and a lot of old school Sailors base everything on that perception. Also, Clinton DID make a lot of cuts to the military. What is lost in the shuffle is that George H.W. Bush brought us Gulf War syndrome. Combine that with w starting an unnecessary war in Iraq, underfunding the VA, Blackwater causing hate and discontent in Iraq, Halliburton serving the troops overpriced contaminated water and platooning morale by hiring civilians to do the same jobs that were previously done by the military at half the cost, the perception (at least in the Navy) is changing. The troops need to know that McCain has NOT had veterans best interests in mind. He is NOT the candidate of the troops. His record shows that but, because he was a POW, he's been getting a pass on his transgressions against the military. I will be in a situation where (somewhat covertly), I will be able to combat that and make their lives better. That is my goal. As a Vet, it is also something I strongly desire. Yeah, life with rednecks won't be easy, but...if I am successful at my new job, it will definitely be worth the sacrifice. Wish me luck!
The scary thing is the only thing different with the McCain campaign is that they don't have a 9/11 like event to scare the shit out of the press. Bush got away without being questioned because of 9/11. The same tactics don't work anymore. Good for them.
Liberal AND Proud @ 13:
And also mention the enthusiastic crowds that showed up in Berlin to greet Barack. For good reasons, Europeans loathe GWB and the Neocons. Europe desperately wants America to assume their leadership role in the world again by dumping the cowboy swagger mentality and being the peacemaker, conciliator, and willing helping hand that we were after WW II. They remember the selfless, generous, and other centered country that generously offered the Marshall Plan and Berlin airlift. The Neo-morons squandered that legacy through their selfishness and arrogance. It was easier for them to be an authoritarian bully to the world rather than have the patience and tact to facilitate peace, which requires an intelligence that is beyond their comprehension.
Keating 5 is right around the corner.
the problem with the media:
Upton Sinclair American novelist
Tim in Japan @ 45:
Damn! Talk about being in the belly of the beast...welcome back and sincere hopes for your success.
I'd like everyone to take a moment and let it sink in that virtually the only place we see hard hitting interviews of politicians is from a few lefty bloggers, sportswriters, sometimes local news stations, and places like Glamour magazine. That's our country.
Palin bans reporters from meetings with leaders:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080923/ap_on_el_pr/palin_leaders;_ylt=Al_43...
This is so frking absurd and ridiculous. She bans reporters but is allowing photographers and a television crew. Damn, this really pisses me off. And it scares the hell out of me to think that McCain/Palin might win this thing.
At least CNN had the balls to pull its TV crew....hope they stick to this, and hope others do the same thing.
Unfcknbelieveable.
Mick Piobr @ 50:
Ditto!
Harry Truman said "I don't give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think its hell." Harry Truman also said "The buck stops here".
General Jack D. Ripper @ 52:
Guess the all-night meth-fueled cram sessions with Rove are proving less fruitful than planned...
Can't teach an old
dogbitch newtrickstalking points.Harry Truman said "I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth and they think its Hell."
As long as the MSM wants each and every general election in this country to be a "horse race" we are going to be fed "horse shit". You can quote me on this one.
He's a crybaby. He doesn't like it cause they are calling him on all his crapola. He didn't mind the press when they used come to all his barbecues. All of his lies are backfiring on him. He's accusing Obama of things that he's even more guilty of. It's shameful, but he's going up in flames.
Someone should send a big block of (government issued of course!) cheese to McCain's campaign!
55 fastfeat
Methinks it beseems when Al Bundy tried to drill his daughter Kelly with sports trivia to go on a gameshow. For everything she learns she forgets something else. The last question on the game show was who won most touchdowns in the 1966 highschool game between Polk High avs Andrew Johnson Highschools and she couldn't remember.
The answer was Al Bundy, her own father (according to Peggy.)
John McCain is a reprehensible liar, but I'm getting really sick of getting FactCheck reports on all the distortions, half-truths, and spin in Obama's ads. The Republicans are so bad, it ought to be easy to put together totally honest, unassailable ads that are effective.
When Obama spins or distorts something it just gives the media the opportunity to play the phony "balance" game. Then, the message is "they both do it." The advantage that Obama might get by presenting a clear, honest alternative to McCain's lying sack of shit is lost. It's a mistake.
people aren't undecided--they just prefer not to tell you how they'll vote.
Brian Rodgers said they were "in the tank" too.
McCain needs to move to Zimbabwe or North Korea if he doesn't like this thing we call "The Watchdog of Democracy".
"If this were a dictatorship it'd be a heck of a lot easier.....Just so long as I'm the dictator" - G.W. Bush
Anti-Palin Rally in Alaska Draws 1400
http://tinyurl.com/4xy6vv
I don't have time to write a diary about it, but Rachel and Isakof exposed that Davis' firm got $15,000 from Freddie Mac through last month, not sure what he payments were for, but probably access to McCain.
cando @ 66:
Rachel had Isakoff on to explain. Davis claims he ended his $30,000 contract in 2006 and he took a leave of absence from his (own) firm at the same time.
The McCain campaign has used these two items as the basis of 'he's not doing anything, he's not doing that anymore'.
However, the bombshell tonight was that Freddie Mac was approached by Davis to be hired as a "consultant" for which his firm would receive $15,000 per month. That payment has been made to Davis firm every month since 2006, and the most recent payment was just last month. The official at Freddie Mac stated that the contract was for access to Senator McCain.
This thing raises all sorts of questions, the first of which is who's lying? Did McCain know about thse payments? Then there is the issue of just what exactly are these payments supposed to be for? If Davis is not working at his firm since he is with the McCain campaign, what service or product is being provided by Davis' firm in return for $15,000 per month? Given the comments by the Freddie Mac person, the access question becomes even more important for a couple more reasons:
McCain's questionable history with lobbyists (Keating Five)
Freddie Mac's recent government bailout.
Isakoff will be digging diligently, and we can expect to hear more about this in the next few days. Congrats to Rachel Maddow for being the first TV person to air this.
obama is the liar. he lies about everything and says different things depending on who he is talking to. i wonder how anyone can trust him and vote for him. i wanted to take this time ask any liberal's why do you support these radical liberal politicians who are trying to take away our religious freedoms and freedom of speech and to follow consciense? even if you don't beleive in God(which i found insane not to) you can at least beleive in our constitution and defend that. i hope you know that if you pretend taht there is no God then we will face judgement by Almighty God.
"man will ultimitely be be goverened by God or by tyrants" benjiman franklin
"if we forget that we are one nation under God then we will be one nation gone under" Ronald Reagan
I can't wait for his interview with Cat Fancy.
"Meow meow meow meow meow meow, McCain?"
"Grrr! You're misquoting my positions!"
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