Obama's Economic Plan: Middle Class America First
By bluegal Wednesday Oct 15, 2008 8:00am
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As embarrassing as McCain's campaign has been of late, Obama has continued to make this a campaign about issues, even though he is the only adult to show up to the Presidential Campaign. Case in point is his economic plan (which in contrast to Bushco's "Throw Me the Money" and McCain's "Let's Only Help Rich Seniors Like Myself" plan) actually starts with the economic problems of the middle class and how to solve them. [Aside to McCain: If US News and World Report goes out on a limb and says the Right thinks your economic plan stinks, you're in trouble.] I'm not the only person who has commented that in light of McCain's failures, Obama hardly needs to be so detailed, goal-oriented, and well, wonky at this point in the campaign. He is anyway. Ben F. Turton:
So far ahead in the race, it was unexpected that he would release such a bold, detailed plan. But more than that, it was truly shocking to see, for the first time in a generation, a politician hit a mark so directly on the head. Delivering exactly to the true middle class, rather than to either the poorer people or the richer, Obama's simple, relatively cheap economic rescue plan, if enacted, would immediately and significantly alter the course of the American economy for the better.
The rest is well worth a read.
And never to be outdone on the tech nirvana front, Obama's team has put together an online calculator so individuals and families can see how his plan would affect their taxes specifically.
Perhaps the McCain "Really Rich Seniors" abacus will be forthcoming sometime before November 4?
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to see how O's plan will be distorted at tonight's debate.
"...abacus..." Now THAT was funny.
Obama would be stupid NOT to mention this calculator tonight!!!
Well, if you are trying to convince the Republican crowd to do the math, you are asking for quite a bit. You might as well try and ask them to embrace biology, physics, chemistry, geology, and any other sort of devilry. Just tell them that Obama's economic plan is found with a secret code somewhere in the Bible.
This is making the news wires: It seems that cancerous blob in Cheney's chest he's euphemistically calling a heart is acting up again. Darth Cheney has been rushed to the hospital about an hour ago.
I just heard he is still at the white house and is scheduled to go to the hospital either this afternoon or tomorrow.
Looks like you're right. Just saw another news report here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
[edited. We wish no physical harm to anyone, anywhere on this site. See KO's special comment last night. - Sitemonitor]
... that Cheney does just fine. (We're not the nasties on the political scene.) But let's also hope that people will consider Sarah Palin, note that Cheney is seven years younger than John McCain, and figure the probabilities.
Obama is up front about everything. Just like putting the calculator on line. That way you can see for yourself, no hidden details, it's there.
On our local noon news they had some guy on who is supposed to know everything about how to win debates. He said that McCain should just walk up to the camera tonight and tell the public that he was the one the country needed now during two wars and economic problems here at home. I guess this guy didn't know the candidates will be seated tonight and for McCain to get up and walk over to the camera would make him seem totally insane.
McCain's been trying to do that, but it hasn't worked. Do they PAY this so-called expert?
Shorter McCain: There's an economy that doesn't involve lobbyists giving me money after I cut their horriblly unfair taxes?
In the way that only the undead can be - rising at sunset to drink the blood of puppies and kittens.
I wish the American voter was mature enough to understand that taxes are needed to support the commons. We are now over ten trillion dollars in debt and every year a huge part of the budget is interest on that debt. We can always postpone the reality of our debt year after year and politicians from both parties can get elected by promising to lower taxes. At some point we will need to pay for all of these budgets that are vastly over drawn. If the republicans get their way we will pay by drowning the programs for the people in a bathtub. The two terms that I cringe when I hear from both sides are "lower taxes" and "affordable health care".
Obama just needs to stay focused and not let McCain rattle him or sandbag him with ACORN or Ayers. McCain is in deep trouble now and I imagine it will show. Just don't give him any openings and glide thru the 90 minutes. Game over for McCain.
I wonder if he saw any of these:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/be...
the last one's the best.
out there!
I can see the McCain version now:
Question 1: Do you make more than $5,000,000 a year?
Question 2: How many cars do you own?
Question 3: How many houses do you own?
McCain did say yesterday that he knows how to fix the economy.
He seems to think he knows how to do a lot of things. Does he know how to shut Palin the hell up? He better learn how soon because she is sounding like a looser cannon every day.
Every time McCain says he knows how to do something, it drives my husband nuts. He always says the same thing. If you know how to fu*king do it, why haven't you fu*king done it?
McCain must know that he sounds like every other know-it-all braggart when he says that stuff.
Or that it's one thing most Americans have had experience with - there's always the office genius, the guy who's 'in charge,' or the management team that has 'contingency plans' and 'mission statements' ... and then there's the quiet person in the closet-sized office with a workload that would give Atlas a hernia, and who really *does* know how things work.
The worker in the closet sized office knows that unless there are jobs, the middle class will not spend. And what did the big honchos determine---diddly squat!
Moderator: "Senator McCain, please discuss in detail your economic plan for the Nation during these most difficult times". "Well Bob, I have not pal'd around with a terrorist, sat for twenty years and be influenced from the pew of an America hating preacher, nor did I conspire along with ACORN to steal this election".
Sen. Obama, please [edited - sitemonitor] this sad ass excuse for a Presidential candidate tonight.
Slightly off topic...
Doesn't anybody think that the use of the word "whip" is slightly inappropriate?
"McCain has Obama right where he wants him and is ready to give him a good whippin"?
No, I see nothing wrong there.
No, but I see a McCain/Palin gaffe-filled video set to Devo's Whip It on YouTube in the near-term future ...
... or a parody of Bill Withers' Ain't No Sunshine with a recut of McCain's, "... and I know ... I know ... I know ... I know ... I know ... uh ... I know ... I know ..."
I'd prefer it from sarah.
Tonight the debate will be held at Hofstra University located in Hempstead, LI. Some enterprising reporters got there ahead of time and took to the streets and homes to interview some of its citizens. The result is heartbreaking.
THIS is what the Bush administration has brought to America -- one out of every twenty homeowners whose homes are being foreclosed, and many more people who are losing their jobs. It's real and it's devastating.
May they rot in hell.
Can you join in helping this woman, since Washington isn't concerned about people losing their homes or their sons in Iraq?
Readers at the Huffington Post and The Daily Kos are sending money to Jocelyn Voltaire in the hope that she can keep her home, which is sceduled for auction in two days, on Friday.
bail out the Middle Class.
Gas and heating oil cost too much.
Food is costly and getting costlier.
State university tuitions are out of sight.
A little bit of tax cutting for the Middle Class is largely meaningless in view of the expenditures they face.
You didn't read the entire article. I suggest you do so.
i'm looking for a strong debate tonight by obama. there will be plenty of theatre by mccain. mccain now
will mention middleclass and jobs. which we heard more of after debate#2. obama has to crystal clear
about ayers(short and sweet) and he needs to be very clear about taxes.
early voting starts this weekend where i live...........here we go!
McCain can't even control his campaign. He can't both provide it direction and run around speaking.
So how's he gonna come up with anything as preznit? Another absentee preznit.
Fortunately, he will lose. And he will get his ass kicked tonight in the debate because he doesn't even know what prezinitial behavior is. Look for more pissed-off old man shit. And not much else.
He's done. And doped up too. He'll be as unrecognizable in one year's time as Reagan was once out of office.
I'm happy to see Obama take on the call for trickle up economics. For the last few decades it's been proven that trickle down economics has been an outright disaster. Those at the top are oh so eager to hang on to all of the wealth at any cost. Golden Parachutes, Tax Breaks, and outright corruption have been a plague on this nation for too long. Trickle up works as a simple economic idea and although he's not calling it "Trickle Up Economics" that's exactly what Obama's plan is and it's about time.
I'd say that Barack Obama is accessing some pretty good advice!
In fact, I have been a bit surprised that he doesn't respond to the quesetions regarding his relative lack of appropriate experience for the job as president by saying something along the lines of: "Look, it is acknowledged that nobody is really qualified to be a president (except perhaps an ex-president!), but what really matters is how he approaches his job. It is not a situation where the POTUS is one man running the country. The POTUS is a CEO, who has access to the best minds in the country (or even the world). What matters is how well he forms a capable team that covers the requirements of the job by accessing appropriate skills, and building a capable executive team. We understand that, and have lined up an outstanding team to run the country who can bring a different approach to that which has gotten us into so much trouble."
I don't know.......
That was Reagan's shtick - that's he's an effective CEO, but doesn't have all the answers himself, so he'll put the best minds in the best positions - and just look at the disaster that was his administration.
While that CEO idea may very well be true (as long as one doesn't appoint idealogues, like Reagan did) I'm not so sure that approach will work as a selling point.
The reason being that people will take the 10,000 out of their retirement portfolios and either buy a big screen TV, or they will pay off their debts and then run out and buy a big screen TV. Or porn. Lots and lots of porn.
Americans have to get out of the debt servicing mentality and back into the only spend what you can afford mentality. That isn't going to happen overnight.
What's mcgramps doing with his thumb and forefinger,
Describing the size of his penis?
)O(
I can't wait
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 09:04 — Blue Lensman
to see how O's plan will be distorted at tonight's debate.
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Isn't that The Story of O?
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[Deleted. Republic Party talking points. If you don't know who Senator Obama is after 20 months of microscopic vetting, you are probably too stupid to find your way to the polls. We can hope, anyway-Sitemonitor]
for spewing this crap around teh net. If not, then you've completely lost your mind.
It's nice to see we have a recent graduate. I truly wish for the day when the electorate is self educated and not led by their leash by any in the media. Reminder: there are a plethora of news sources and tv/radio are just a piece of that pie. btw I have counted 10 mis-leading or outright lies in this post and at least two blatant racist comments or charges.
You subtle, ignorant, racist bitch! When you say "our" do you mean your fellow bigots who love this Nation so much that you're willing to destroy it because you have clearly psychotic problems with other Americans(black people). You are a dumb racist bitch and a lying, disingenous coward!
Where is the legal evidence YOU were born on this planet? I know things like reading make your brain hurt, but try researching every so often and stop taking your information from the hillbilly heroin addict. Go ahead, and like your VP nominee, believe that the world is 8000 yrs old, that our ancestors saddled up the dinosaurs and rode them, that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and that Jesus was from Iowa.
You have a great future in fiction writing. Most of your sentences are complete. You have a vivid imagination. Unfortunately i think you have lost the plot. Work on that, will you please?
hey DUMBASS mad woman,
"vivid" and "Imagination"?
if you do in fact have 5 or 6 dollars to your name, you should buy a thearusus!
you are most positivley..... a DUMBASS!!
gasp of pondscum and bottom feeders. It's so much fun.
Just come out and say you'd never vote for a black man. You'll feel better and save bandwidth.
I will never understand the Log Cabin Republicans (openly gay Republicans) , black or Hispanic Republicans- As Republicans want to keep the power in the hands of white Christian men.
In the words of the great Mike Malloy, the Republican Party is a hate group, no different than the KKK or other white Power groups.
Condi rice and Colin Powell were in positions of power, but neither of them were respected by the administration, or had any real control in their hands. They were used as puppets, nothing more.
Just watch, the closer we get to election day, the louder the 'Michael savages' will be..and all euphemisms right wingers use to describe their deep seeded hatred of black people will be dropped, and the 'N' word will be widely and openly used when refering to Obama..
i am black, and have long hoped for a black President.
but not this middle-eastern muslim who sold black america a look-alike!
Where do I begin? The poster above is either a troll, or a typical ignorant right winger.
Obama WAS born in the US (Mccain was not by the way).
Have you lived in a cave the last 8 years? The Republicans were in charge, and destroyed our economy- Bush took us from a massive surplus into record deficit, and brought us into a war based on lies. Billions of dollars that go unaccounted for continue to be poured into Iraq.
The war in Iraq is a large reason why the economy is in the tank..
And how about the voter fraud commited by Republicans in 2000 and 2004? Did you forget about that?
Why do I suspect you were one of those Bush apolgists who found an excuse for all of GW Bush's crimes, and when a decent man such as Barack Obama runs for president, you engage in classic Freudian projection, and accuse Obama of all the negative things a Republican would do?
What is wrong with admiring European countries? Jesus, are you one of these right wingers who can only look at the rest of the world with scorn and contempt? The fact is much of Europe, particulalry Sweden, have superior health and education programs to the US.
I'm sure you sit there eating your 'freedom fries', wishing we could nuke Europe.
Regarding Acorn, that was started by a Republican, and McCain was very cozy with Acorn- It's clear from your post you are full of hatred.
Of course I suspect what offends you most of all is that a black man may soon be president of the United States-
Get used to it, Obama WILL win!
snobama, the self-serving hate monger, will lose.....
it will be, at least as embarassing as the spanking john kerry took 4 years ago!
snobama, the self-serving hate monger, will lose.....
it will be, at least as embarassing as the spanking john kerry took 4 years ago!
please spare the drama. we've heard this same rhetoric for several months. your list of: Acorn,Wright,
Farakahn,Rezko.......amount to NOTHING for voters that are curious. for those that sit in front of the box
and listen to hannity that's a different demographic. Acorn:voter registration fraud(mickey mouse),Wright
who cares,Ayres: Obama was 8yoa....will hear more tonight. Ayers is on the same allenberg board as obama so what, Rezko: Obama returned money no wrong doing. the republicans have given these characters much attention then is deserved in order to describe Obama as an exotic,angry terrorist type.
regarding making the government "bigger" please look at the REPUBLICAN BUSH administration. they defecit has doubled and spending is out of control. the BAILOUT has brought to us from the BUSH administration capitalize the profits and socialize the losses. NOW we're NATIONALIZING banks under the BUSH administration.........this ALL BIG Government under BUSH administration. if your looking at fannie/freddie to blame for this your looking at the wrong institutions. YOU need to look at Wall street. CREDIT default swaps are to blame. a financial instrument developed by financial engineers of wall street.
Obama is fully aware of how european countries feel about the united states more importantly he understands that we NOW have a global economy as we can see now. problems in the united states effects the world. he wants to improve our relationships with the world so we can work together on ENERGY and MONETARY issues.
please take your NONSENSE propaganda elsewhere. we are tired of that hannity playbook. i thought
obama was born in hawaii and mccain was born in the panama canal zone. i'm still waiting for mccain
to provide tax returns of his wife,have his medical records look at by physicians and i'm still waiting for an
explaination about RICK davis and his relationship with freddie mac.
are you still waiting for snobama to exlain why 3 of his financial advisers were forced to resign from freddie mac and fannie mae, and they are facing criminal charges? !ouch !
mcgramps wasn't born in America either. So in either case it would lay with their Ius Sanguine, and the constitutional provision that one be natural born citizens (or citizens at the time of the Constitution's adoption),
And no, that doesn't mean they were born from their mother using the Lamaze method.
)O(
Although i'm a lifelong Democrat, and agree with the economic views of the left, I have noticed the middle class is the only group being discussed- what about the poor? There are many people in America living on the poverty level - why aren't the needs of the poor being addressed?
Obama is winning with his middle class message and wouldn't dare talk about the impoverised now not with this big a lead. McCain, well he just doesn't care about the poor. Make no mistake though Obama does care and his policies and ideology will benefit the unfortunate in our society.
obama cares about.......obama
While i agree the poor have been left out of American Politics since Ronald Reagan was elected i think you will have to agree that all of the working class have been as well. We need to push the stone in the best direction on this teeter totter or we will never find any balance.
Thanks for solidifying my vote for Obama/Biden 08- Thank you for reminding me that McNasty/Failin ticket-represents everything we are trying to purge from our government - abuse of power, secrecy, corruption, lying, and snarky nasty hate-mongering, not to mention an extremist right-wing religious agenda.
the only thing that skanks worse than a mad women, is an ugly mad women!
thats almost ALWAYS why she is mad!
Sarah Palin is HOT, You, oh large ugly female, are not!!
i live in the great liberal state of Massachusetts- But our health care system is whacked. Mine is the one state that *requires* people to purchas health insurance (Thanks, Mittens). If you don't buy insurance you'll be fined $912. For those, like me who are working poor and can't afford health insurance, its cheaper to pay the fine. I have yet to hear either candidate articulate how their health plans will help those who can barely pay the rent- they talk about the middle class, but act as if the poor don't exist.
I do think Obama will try and help the poor- buy how?
The position of Republicans is that the poor can go fu*k themselves.
during the last 8 yrs. we have seen a progressive widening gap between the have and the have NOTs. obama
wants to rebuild the middle class hopefully the middle class demographics will bring people out of the
lower economic classes with the availability of jobs and education. another issues i believe will help the
poverty level is approporiate veteran benefits/healthcare.
this gap between the rich and poor has become too big. Greenspan has talk about this gap as becoming a serious problem.
personally and i know this isn't a popular stance on this site, i feel the influx of cheap labor has hurt this country. NO, not in every case but i believe overall it's cost us.
Of course cheap labor hurts all working people. The fact that companies abuse the system, that the Labor Department will help companies break unions and outsourcing jobs to the lowest bidder all over the planet is killing us.
Is traditionally politicos made a distinction between the deserving and the undeserving poor. The former were widders, orphans, disabled vets and pensioner; the latter were "shiftless bums and losers." At one time they spoke of genteel poverty, my guess it means they can make their hungry stomachs growl in French like Maurice Chevalier. Now of course you have the working poor, which no one wants to address. The idea that one could have a job or even more than one, and not be able to make ends meet disturbs them enough to ignore them and hope they go away.
)O(
nor Country First...
but Country Club First!
put the crack pipe down, and pay attention!
snobama is a self serving snake!
politics as usual with snobama - biden
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