La Marseillaise was sung at today's D-Day commemoration, but at the dinner table tonight my whole family admitted we know the French national anthem from this wonderful scene in Casablanca. Open thread below....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhui0xzJs2M
I love any movie scene where people use music to make fascists uncomfortable.
... and packed with quotes that people still use, even if they don't remember the source.
"We'll always have Paris."
"Here's looking at you, kid."
"For friends of M'sieur Rick, we have special price."
"Play it, Sam."
"I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling going on here!"
"The problems of two people don't amount to a hill of beans ..."
"Round up the usual suspects."
"This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
--in all the towns in all the world she walks into mine."
--the Germans wore gray, you wore blue."
--to the fight. This time I know our side will win."
10 watch.
Such watch?
"You two will do very well in America".
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
Major Strasser: "Are you one of those people who cannot imagine the Germans in their beloved Paris?"
Rick: "It's not particularly my beloved Paris."
Heinz: "Can you imagine us in London?"
Rick: "When you get there, ask me."
Captain Renault: Hmmh! Diplomatist!
Major Strasser: "How about New York?"
Rick: "Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade."
"I probably would if I gave you any thought." paraphrasing.
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Good to see a prosecution of a BushCo asshole, even if it's not for war crimes yet.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
La Marseillaise in French I in ninth grade. But, I sang it a lot in college with my silly friends who were French majors. It's a much nicer anthem then ours - at least the music - I'm not sure I remember what the words actually mean...!
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
Canada's is kinda bad. So is Korea's, a terrible march tune.
Anyway, anthems are for nationalism, and I don't partake in ANY!
far left loon >.<
Anthems probably go back to the aftermath of 15th century Treaty of Westphalia.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
It's all march music and old. Like it was a fad, and once you had one you couldn't ignore it, and then everyone ruched to have one (probably to march off to war and kill people that listened to other anthems.)
Just another form of brainwashing.
far left loon >.<
http://old.marseillaise.org/francais/english....
Madeleine Lebeau, the actress pictured in the clip, was especially good in this scene, imo--you could read so many emotions in her face as she sang...pride in France, guilt & remorse for patronizing with the Nazis, then courage and resolve to keep fighting...
I get so angry whenever Americans insult the French...calling them "surrender monkeys" and other ugly names. My God, the horrors those people endured during the war...an entire generation of young men wiped out, yet groups like the French Resistence (more often than not, peopled by woman, as most of the men were dead) & the French Underground fought bravely on in the face of devastating odds.
I have nothing but respect for the French people.
I also hate French bashing. In addition to all your points the US never would have won the revolutionary war without the active participation of the French army and navy.
Lebeau, like many of the other extras in this scene, was a refugee from the Nazis. She escaped to Lisbon just before the occupation of Paris, and was stranded for several months trying to get to South America. Quite a bit like those stranded in Casablanca.
Many of the actors have said that filming this scene was particularly emotional and it certainly comes across in the final version. It always brings tears to my eyes, right from the moment when Victor hears the Germans singing and demands that the band play the Marseillaise, and all the way through.
It's a great scene from a great movie.
The director Michael Curtiz also directed The Adventures of Robin Hood, with Erroll Flynn, another story about people displaced, but in their own land.
Michael Curtiz, who was born something like Mihael Kortecz was a Hungarian refugee on a death-list back home, meaning he could be shot on sight, along with other Hungarians as Bela Feranc Dezco Blasco (Bela Lugosi). The latter was even something of a hero from WWI in the Austro-Hungarian Army, on patrol in the Carpathian mountains where he was shot several times.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
The surrender monkey was swiped from the Simpsons. Although it involved French, it wasn't directed at them. Due to budget cut-backs, Springfield Elementary had the veeery Scottish Groundskeeper Willy teaching French class.
So they had a cut-away to Willy in class behind a stand wearing a beret, and red and white, horizontally striped shirt, saying for the class to repeat, "Bon jourrrrr...you cheese eating surrender monkeys!"
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I watched my Red Wings play tonight like I normally see them play. And I watch the Penguins play like I always expect them to play.
Hopefully the Wings took a lot of starch out of the Pens. I'd rather see this end Tuesday than go to a game 7.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Wings definitely got under the skin of Crosby and Malkin, tee hee.
Liberty, Equality and Fraternity once shook the world. These led the spirit of the victory over fascism. They mean something more than driving a prius and using a canvas bag at Safeway. They mean revolutiion for human beings.
The history.
All six verses - in French and English translation.
And lotsa references.
Wikipedia: La Marseillaise
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
I just recently re-signed up for PaperBackSwap.com, an online book club with millions of members that allows you to list books you don't want anymore, and also request books from other members that you want to read.
Anyway, I did finish reading The Eliminationists recently, so that was one of my books that I listed as available for swapping. Turns out at least one person had it on their wishlist and was waiting for someone to enter their copy in the system, so my copy began its journey to Georgia today. I consider it wonderfully encouraging that Dave Neiwert has an audience in the South. It's always good to know there's progressives there and not just a bunch of red staters! :)
And if my subsequent posts in the thread are typed iffy, I apologize, part of my left-hand fingers are covered in almond oil right now...Giving myself a manicure, and yes, I do normally multitask while doing such a thing. ;)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
...and probably the film on most desert island lists.
Great scene, great film. First time I saw it, back in college, I knew nothing about it and the whole thing was a total, Saturday-afternoon-with-nothing-to-do surprise. A bunch of us watched it in the student lounge and we were all blown away.
its so very nice video
This mornig I had the dubious pleasure of waking up to a interview of "heck of a job Brownie" on BBC's Africa service. They were looking for someone named "Brown" to compare to the politically embattled British PM Gordon Brown.
Questions for BBC could include "How many people died of Gordon Browns incompetence?"
As nuetral as BBC tries to be their coverage of US politics and their Washington corespondent toes the neo-con line.
I have it up on my blog somewhere, posted a few years ago. Everytime I see that scene, seriously, it makes me cry. Of course, the whole damn movie made me cry. Bogart, Bergman, great one liners, etc. And probably like most of the commentors, the first national anthem many of us learned (well, aside from O Canada, if you are a hockey fan) as a result of watching this movie.
of the Chris Matthews show. They are concerned about who the republicans will have to run against Obama in 2012. Fuck that. Who cares. Why not work on fixing the things the last republicans in office fucked up. I am so sick of the librul media, whatever that is supposed to mean. Fuck you Matthews.
I can`t help but think about all the wingnuts out there who would be making French jokes about this, even some on our side like to make jokes. If you study the First World War like I do, all of the `surrender monkey` jokes become extreamly unfunny, because then you find out exactly why the military leader of France, Philip Petan, was willing to surrender and avoid a repeat of those awful years of 1914-1918.
A really silly joke that was floating around shortly after the Iraq war began was `how many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?
We dont know, it`s never been tried.`
The real answer is in the number of men called up to the defence of all France in 1914 and throughout the entire war. I regret that I dont have the full mobilization numbers handy now but I do believe that over 3 million Frenchmen gave their lives in the defence of their country in that war, plus the landings on D-day could not have been possible without the assistance of the French ressistance at the time.
Just my thought at seeing the above video.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
I always thought those anti-French jokes and attitudes were just ignorance and stupidity fueled by the likes O'Reilly, and the rest.
I thought the 'after all we did for you!' comments were the dumbest. If someone saved your life would you help them rob a bank or kill somebody else because you 'owed them'?
The French don't 'owe' it to America to go into a stupid and unnecessary war. Don't we all wish our Congressional leaders could have stood up to Bush the way the French did.
Many of the people who make those jokes like to poit out that we 'saved' france twice without really understanding the history behind either war.in the First World war we did not really save anything, our forces arrived in strength in France around May of 1918 and the war ended in November of that year, the Germans were all but used up plus they were begining to see Bolshevik agitation at home in Berlin, they could no longer afford to keep the war going. The American impact on that war was considerable, but it was very tiny as well. Four years of stalemate is what ultimately won the war (if you can call it winning).
marshall Petain was given the job of protecting France from the Germans when Hitler released his Blitzkrieg, the inability to even slow him down sapped all the fight out of Petain who did not want to see a repeat of the Great war. Petain was the hero of Verdun, the longest battle of the First World War, unlike the rest of the French Generals of the time he knew that the modern weapons of war favored the defence and not the attack. All the other generals (including Joseph Joffre the supreme French commander)believed in the doctrine of attack to the utmost. That is why the dead and wounded number in the millions for France. Petain was rightly villified for surrendering to the Germans in the 1940's and then becoming the puppet ruler of Vichy France, he was however spared the death penalty due to his service to France at Verdun years earlier and died in prison, truly sad in my oppinion.
To those who think France owes us, I would point out American history; without French assistance there would be no United States of America. Why do those idiots think George Patton made a special trip to the grave of the marquis de Lafayette;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_du_Motie...
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
that without France helping us against the British, the revolution of 1776 would not have won for the USA, just to restate the most overlooked fact of our history.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
Exactly. Instead of looking at them needing to pay us back for WWII we should look at WWII as paying them back for the Revolutionary War.
Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.
For France;
Mobilized Strength.....8,410,000
Battle Deaths..........1,357.800
Wounded................4,266,000
Civilian Deaths........40,000
Cost in millions of Dollars....49,877
Taken from the compleat Idiots guide to World War One, now you know how many Frenchmen it takes to defend Paris.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
Merci watchdog,
My French Grandmother would have been pleased with your words.
Much of the French bashing in this country is rooted in a long standing Anglo-Saxon hatred for the French.
It has nothing to do with we Americans, the French did help us achieve our Independence, and purchasing the Louisiana Territory from France kept the Brits from taking 3/4 of what is now U.S. Territory.
However the Anglophiles do not seem to want to give it up, and there are many sheep in this country that just follow along to get along.
It is similar to telling Pollock jokes not knowing that they are derived from German propaganda, but hey, they are none the less funny and so we perpetuate the myth.
'Talk to the hand'
Thanks for reminding me, I had forgot about the Louisiana Purchase, I'm not going to go into that one however as it relates to the history of New Orleans (another of my old favorite history subjects) and I can see that my above posts are a bit long-winded already.
All I will say is that historical revisionism disturbs me like nothing else. I cant stand to see all of the wingnut books on the subject, I am refering directly to the Politicaly Incorrect Guides (PIG) that are nothing but putting a conservatard spin on history, I got to see earlier today that Johna Goldbergs Liberal fascism has been released in paperback now. more dead trees for a worthless cause.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
Visit the Yasukuni Shrine in Tokyo if you want to see revisionist history!! They appear to be the heroes of WW II. They liberated Asia from Western evil. The part where they lose the war is a tiny room at the end, but buidling the Empire takes rooms and rooms. And in the bookstore I saw, "The Myth of the Nanking Masacre," for sale.
From Wiki:
300,000 Chinese slain.
far left loon >.<
Some worthwhile links;
http://www.greatwar.nl/
http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/in...
Vintage periodicals from the Great War.
http://www.worldwaronecolorphotos.com/
Real color photographs (not hand tinted but actually photographed in color!)from the Great War.
http://www.ww1battlefields.co.uk/index.html
http://ww1cemeteries.com/
http://www.firstworldwar.com/
http://www.westernfrontphotography.com/main.p...
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/oxford/...
http://www.amazon.com/World-War-I-easy-readin...
A reading list I made at Amazon of some really good books.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
thanks.
Great scene. As I recall, the actress in the clip was French, and so some of that emotion is real.
Why does every video stall and stutter for me at this site but at no others?
Anyone know?
It seems like they didn't used to do that here. They play, but just very haltingly and it makes it near impossible to watch. (I have cable broadband, XP, in fact I've also had the same on my Mac, and all works fine elsewhere)
TIA
If it has the youtube logo in the corner click on that and it takes you to youtube. You can watch it without the stuttering. If it doesn't have the logo...well, I just don't watch it.
Not just me then. Thanks, I appreciate it.
I checked again and it does work better from the Mac. So seems a Windows thing. But not just mine, clearly.
Thanks. That works a lot better.
who was supposed to be mouthing end of the world scenarios that sounded like they came from Glenn Beck while withdrawing $85 K from a bank in St. George Utah wasa arrfested where I suggested he might be...outside a casino in Nevada. Do they promote gambling on FOX?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
...because a kindly, dedicated teacher struggled to teach me French.
That was back when public schools thought such things as foreign language were important enough to support.
before the blues took on the New Zealand All Blacks some time ago. Look at the ferocity of the passion in the people's eyes. Americans need to open their eyes to the fact that France is our oldest and best friend. I'd certainly prefer to have a critical friend like the French in my corner in a tight spot than any other country. Freedom fries my ass! Cut and paste the link:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=marseil...
They colorize classic black and white films
When can we expect digital additions like
Nude scenes for Ingrid Bergman?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
It never fails to bring tears to my eyes. Casablanca never gets old. I own a copy, but it's still one of those movies that makes you stop everything and watch it if it happens to be on TV.
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