June 24, 2009 07:30 PM
Open Thread
You needed to escape FROM the bubble, Governor? Clearly, the bubble that Sanford escaped TO is the one that got him in trouble. An average cheating spouse can use a cell phone and email account to cover his/her affair, anywhere in the world. Sanford did more than travel and cheat. He consciously disappeared. That is a form of hate toward anyone who cared about him or depended upon him, at work or at home.
There is something psychotically narcissistic about a need to disappear from the world in which you have real-life obligations.
Open thread below....
REPUG = HYPOCRITE
Some stuff you can't make up!
the asshole who demanded others resign
will not resign.
fuck his even worse HYPOCRITICAL BULLSHIT
Exodus
Strange how you threw this right wing extremist link up just as I logged in........My Sheriff Department has harassed me and violated my constitutional rights all my life.
FBI needs to take a look at this poster!!!! I am sure I am being Paranoid, but maybe not, that Christian Gamer clan have stepped up the Harassment right back into full fledged 24/7 tracking me again, they even know my mothers health conditions, I don't get it, I turned them into the FBI 5 times now, nothing happens only more hacks and more hidden messages to me threw all internet media.
in the south, they take off the sheets to go to their day jobs. FBI inaction is no surprise.
Some stuff you can't make up!
It sounds like there is an interior maladjustment there Nowwhat. Do you hear voices?
or something like that.
Gov, do you want a salad with your meal?
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
Virginia Abortion Restriction Is Upheld
U.S. Appeals Court Votes 6-5 to Back 'Partial Birth' Ban
By Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 25, 2009
A sharply divided federal appeals court ruled constitutional yesterday a Virginia law banning "partial birth" abortion that was overturned four years ago, bringing the state in line with a federal ban on the controversial procedure.
A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit overturned the Virginia law in 2005 by a 2 to 1 vote, finding that it did not allow for exceptions to safeguard a woman's health. The Supreme Court ordered the appeals judges to revisit the issue when it upheld the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act two years ago, a law passed by Congress in 2003 that is similar to Virginia's ban.
Although the Virginia law permits women to choose various abortion procedures, it specifically makes it a crime for doctors to perform a rare midterm abortion that involves partially delivering the fetus before crushing its skull to ease removal.
Man smart, woman smarter.
Since when did we start expecting a repug to be responsible, much less considerate?
'Inquiring minds' and all that...
Some stuff you can't make up!
in Sanford and Son. "Angelina, I'm coming. It's the big one." as he grabbed his heart.
Elizabeth?
at the new Sanford. I don't know what the new girl's name is.
Come out, come out, wherever you are Maria de Argentina...
I've never seen change without a fire
is her name.
think its Maria.
This is actually one of Ward Sanford's touching family commercials so he could get elected. Scum Bag!
Script of "Boys" (TV) (On screen: Mark Sanford: Republican for Governor) MARK SANFORD: Jenny and I try our best to teach our four little boys Christian values, character and honesty. You'd like to think that those values apply to government, too. And that starts with keeping your word. When I ran for Congress, I said I'd support term limits, never take a dime from special interests and not waste the taxpayers' money. I kept those promises. South Carolina needs a return to real, honest leadership in the governor's office. (On screen: Mark Sanford: A leader, not a politician; Paid for by Sanford for Governor)
threw up in my mouth a little bit.
I mean, while we're making things up, it's possible he could have actually been trying to end it since he was thinking about running for president, and she told him the only way she'd be quiet is if he came and saw her one last time.
But neither of us know.
Now that's funny.
it was so fucking good he said: "fuck South Carolina, the whole goddamned state! I need me some of that 'other woman'. fuck the wife and kids. I got the stimulus right here!"
Some stuff you can't make up!
That was a real kicker for me.
What "family values" guy needs to get away from his precious little boys on Father's Day???
Such a great photo op and all.
Fool.
Maybe that old line is true. Every man's brain is in his c@#k.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
That was a real kicker for me.
What "family values" guy needs to get away from his precious little boys on Father's Day???
Such a great photo op and all.
Fool.
Maybe that old line is true. Every man thinks with his c@#k.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
him into flying to Argentina and forced him to have sex with her in a variety of positions over a period of several days. He was just an innocent white God-fearing victim of a wanton hot-blooded Latin seductress, probably.
Can't anything like that ever happen to me?
Or he could have been kidnapped by aliens who told him they would destroy the world unless he made up a story about a hot latin mistress in Argentina, we'll never know for sure
...pretty good 'spinn' on the story there! Sanford is toast.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
His bubble busted?
Seriously. Why would he risk everything just for a booty call? If he was really desperate he'd figure out a way to get her here, if anything. I just think it's more likely that there was some way he was trying to salvage his presidential ambitions.
In my opinion, ditching the world for six days when you're governor is only something you do when you're playing long odds. And even aside from that -- immediate demonizing is exactly what a lot of conservatives do.
Ah, really I shouldn't bother. Something like this comes up and I feel compelled to try to be a voice of moderation here, and then I get shouted down anyway -- just as if I would try to do it on a consie forum.
to defend this man. NO EXCUSES.
He deserted his post for his own private crap. Not even dignified crap like a disease or an illness or death. He was so full of himself he thought he could just run off to fix his problems and no one would know or care. NO EFFING EXCUSES!
Concern trolls should be concerned elsewhere.
.........should be concerned about the $$$$$ this bubblehead spent on Argentina, and related costs that this PUKIE GOV. used taxpayer funds to finance his junket to Argentina not once, not twice, but many, many, many, times!!!
he is just another low life slug, contemptible, hypocritical- xtian, cheating scum, lying, back-stabbing, (R)ethuglican filth-bag, and I hope his wife takes him to the cleaners, and the people of S. Carolina think twice before voting for a smug, louse filled rodent like this again.
Like most troll's, you have completely missed the point.
If these conservative blowhards didn't fly around on their bible's throwing damnation and scorn on everyone else, they wouldn't be in nearly as bad a situation.
There is nothing more disgusting than a fake "values spewing" hypocrite. That is the reason they deserve to be kicked when they are down. They are freaking evil!
No money for unemployed working people who can't feed their kids because that's "socialism." But I will bet you donuts to dollars this bastard has spent a small fortune of taxpayers money diddling his girlfriend on the slide.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
No money for the needy of his state, but, the state can sure pay for his trysts in a far away place. Next up, is the Samford and Haggard Show. The first episode will be reading from the bible while snorting meth off of a eunuch whore's back. F these hypocrites: church on Sunday and whoring and drugging Monday morning.
and self-sabotaged the whole mess.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
She was his nanny. I wonder if he talks to her in the voices of his children while she's changing his repressed folded wrap around underwear?
I wonder if she knew Terry Shaivo?
(R) says it all. see mark sanford. see the guy who screwed his aide's wife and gave her son a 100k job, but won't resign - this after railing on clinton to resign.
Some stuff you can't make up!
that's most likely defending someone that you like.
Fly her to the U.S.? Ha, ha, ha.
If you are going to say things that are definitely denial and border and stupid then please don't be surprised when you are called on it.
These assholes set themselves up as the party of God and the party of morality, I for one do not give a shit what he does with his personal time, however, when an asshat like Sanford positions himself as being above the fray, he better well be above the fray.
you remember a guy named Clinton?Don't go all double standard on this.That guy was RAKED over the coals.
He chose to leave his 4 kids during Father's Day weekend. For me, that's especially telling of his ethics. Or lack thereof.
On a Sunday no less.
Well Praise Jebus! Sounds like one of them conservatard holly rollers.
Let's be honest, this guy is just f**king stupid!
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Selfish, uncaring, and hypocritical.
Republican family values, dontcha know.
(R) say it all - unless you're FUXnoise!
Some stuff you can't make up!
.............'misidentifies' a PUKIE in full dress hypocracy as democrate! SURE!!! just an honest mistake???
Just a note about those who choose to have affairs…
I don’t care.
Really, it’s none of my business. American’s are so preoccupied with sex: Gay-sex, hetero-sex, extra-marital-sex, celebrity-tabloid-sex, politician-sex. People have sex – good for them.
Sanford isn’t a bad Governor because he has had an ongoing affair for over a year. That makes him a bad husband. He’s not really a bad Governor just because he left his office for a few days (it’s not like he was standing post and went AWOL in the face of an enemy attack). His absence is irresponsible, but understandable.
Sanford is a hypocrite because he told the people of SC to vote for him because he was the arbiter of morality. Sanford told voters that he and he alone in the race for Governor, knew “family values” and how to have “correct sex”. “Vote for me, my penis is spiritual…” Well, we now know that was all a charade. But this also does not make Sanford a bad Governor, just a bad hypocrite.
I tried to look up some info on Sanford to determine if he was a bad Governor. It appears his political career was financed by his wife – not a great thank-you there, Mark. But aside from his failed grand-standing on the stimulus money for SC (“stupid is as stupid does”), I come up with a big zero. Nada.
After getting his MBA, Sanford worked at a bank. That was his only job prior to politics. I don’t know what Mark will do after his term in SC is over, but his political career, and his marriage, are over.
I will not cry for him because of Argentina. The truth is, I don’t care.
defend Bill Clinton in this manner?
I, for one, did defend Clinton.
I have no use for Sanford -- or his politics -- but these comments are over the top and suggest hysteria and unfamiliarity with human nature.
"Psychotic?" Hates his children?
What shall we say next? That adultery and lying are genocidal?
We are all hypocrites.
Republicans have fed the entire Nation their bullshit morality(filled with violence, missogyny, anarchy, racism, etc.)
Sanford FUCKED UP! He was completely derelict in his duty as Governor, while going MIA over a piece of ass! Now if you wish to apologize for the inexcusable acts of this POS, feel free. Just don't try and deflect responsiblity as if Liberals are somehow equally wrong.
My point was that the opening comment seemed hysterical. Your response seems beyond hysterical, and an overly aggressive way to address a stranger.
But yes, I am a hypocrite.
--Hypocrite lecteur,-- mon semblable,-- mon frere.
I think both are in violation of the 10 Commandments. Clinton was set up Sanford was not. Clinton never ran on family values,Snaford did. Thats what makes Sanford a hypocrit.
Now that's funny.
are all these men really that stupid to think that no on will ever find out about their affairs? They are elected to run some type of "government", yet can't even figure out how to run their own lives.....Surely he will resign...........won't he???
yesterday, the immediately preceding scumbucket met with a repug round of applause. the most amazing thing to me is that the Dems need to be 'bipartisan' with scum like that.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Depends how many of those Dems are currently having affairs of their own.
that had to go to another continent to get laid.
But that's not the point, is it?
We, of course, don't know what happened. Maybe Sanford went to Argentina to end it. Or maybe he went there to beg his mistress to take him back so he could be with "the love of his life," and she refused. Or maybe he just got caught. Are there Democrats doing the same thing. You can count on it.
I'm not going to pass judgment on him for having an affair. What annoys me is the "I have the right to pass judgment on others because America is the land of family values" perspective--which then sees that individual caught up in his (and usually it is *his*) own infidelity.
People are human. They make mistakes. That doesn't mean their wives (or husbands, or whatever) are obligated to forgive them. But it also should serve to remind us that we're fallible. Using something like this to score political points can often come back to bite you in the ass.
Keep your eyes on the prize. Doing the work of the people is why you got elected--not to be somebody's moral superior. Time and again, those who railed against Clinton's infidelity have had this return home to them. Get the hell out of our bedrooms and concentrate on your job.
I thought Clinton was concentrating on the b job.
What did Clinton say--"I put it in a box over here so I can concentrate on that over there."
Or something like that. It's been long ago now that I don't remember. ; )
when getting one. It's really hard when driving without cruise control.
"Parenthood."
; )
Officer to Steve Martin...What were you doing before you went off the road?
Martin to Mary Steenburgen....well, show him honey....
'Talk to the hand'
He left his post as the highest official in the state. No one in state government knew where he was. When the Lt. Gov tried to reach him, he couldn't. THAT is why he is scum. Screwing around with his whole family values crap hypocrisy is icing on the irresponsible cake.
He potentially put how many South Carolinians lives in jeopardy. He was grossly irresponsible.
Hi Joanne. On first reading your post, I thought saying that Sanford put the people of his state at risk might be stretching it just a bit. But then I got to thinking. Russia invaded Georgia last year, and South Carolina is just a stone's throw away from Georgia...
j/k
"But it also should serve to remind us that we're fallible."
No, it also should serve to remind us that Sanford proved he's a fucking jerk.
When a man runs for office and a big part of his platform is that he is morally superior then we must also include liar,hypocrit and Bad judgement into his life. He was the one who ran his mouth so let him be judged on his fallabilty.
and realize that having an affair doesn't mean bupkis about your ability to govern. Bush was faithful and Clinton fooled around. JFK got almost as much tail as Frank Sinatra. Thomas jefferson fooled around with his slaves. I would take any of them over the mediocre politicians that are "faithful". The only reason I think this is newsworthy, well two reasons one is for the hypocrisy value since Sanford was a big Clinton BJ basher and two because its so darned funny.
You summed it up well.
Exactly. I'm all for calling him out for being a hypocrite. But these people saying he's a scumbag for having an affair, it seems over the top.
for deserting his post...stop focusing on the sex.
Eh, I guess. For that I'd say "grossly incompetent".
You'd just be happy with giving him a slap on the wrist and saying poor baby, I take it.
Eh...to you and your concern trolling.
Gah! No, seriously! He did a stupid and wrong thing. But again, if you think conservatives have the monopoly on ..
ah shit, nevermind. Whatever. Carry on.
NO they keep reminding us they have the monopoly on "family values" some of us are sick of it. it's negative framing saying we are the party of family values insinuating the other party does not/is not. get rid of the (r) put an (h) in their instead for HYPOcrite. sometimes the high road doesn't feel right.
Yeah, I agree. But my comments are somehow getting distorted into "you think he should get off easy", so whatever.
he should just resign. character,morals and values are important we all make mistakes but when you decide to tell others how to live throught the government. people get pissed. i thought (r) were about personal freedoms/independence not really. most of us wouldn't care if the right weren't routinely as a strategy using the culture war to win battles of governing this country.
a bitch to deal with.
i guess one of the e-mails he sent suggested he had the hots for her tan lines.
It would be interesting to read this thread if the god-fearing, family crusader Sarah Palin took of for 6 days to see her Toy Boy in Russia.
What might Americans say of a "good Christian woman" doing the same????
(I just know she's been checking out those hot Russian guys from her kitchen window.)
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
makes you look like a 20%. If Obama flew off to Argentina for four days, should he resign?
Some stuff you can't make up!
I think if Obama did it, we'd hear a very different story from the GOP. I think it would sound like, "IMPEACH."
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
where's your goddamned list!
Some stuff you can't make up!
Divert, deflect, distract, etc. same old bullshit.
Yup, gotta love those "family values."
tell anyone what their values were until it's necessary to have a press conference.
Perhaps they could update their list of "family values"......but a blank page isn't going to be too convincing I think....:)
Hats off to his wife. Judging from her response of "I have no idea where he is, I'm here for my kids", perhaps she'll be one of the first political wives in recent memory to let her man take the shame all by himself (and sparing us one of those disingenuous united front photo-ops)
Remember the look on David Vitter's wife's face. She looked like she wanted to kill him in front of the press, just for the best photo angle.
Who could blame her?
she looked angry at the press for exposing their dirty diapers.
The hell with this cheater, her concern was correct, for her family. If it were me, I would tell the b*stard to get the hell out of the house, then I would have the locks changed. He cheated on his "job" as well as gov - he cheated on his constituents. The fact is that cheaters are liars, and liars are cheaters. There is an old saying about scorned women - and we N-E-V-E-R forget.
It's like none of you know how much it takes out of a person to have to FIGHT with their entire body and SOUL to refuse free money that would help the state you GOVERN!
Those cheap political points can really cost a guy, don't you know?
It's like none of you know how much it PAINED Sanford to miss his children!
On Father's Day!
He had to give that up, and he had to go "hit it and quit it" with his mistress, just one more thing really TAKING it out of him...
Have you no compassion for this noble civil servant, protector of marriage, family values, and apple pie?
To The Other Woman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLXuBfPQXLw&fe...
PUKIE 'values' that have been used to bludgeon everyone else, yet somehow don't apply to Gov. Sanford,PUKIE sen. Foley the boy-lover, Kissenger the war criminal, Cheney the war criminal, BOTHBUSHES the war criminals, etc., etc, etc, just these little inconsistencies left flying in the wind..........
rep.barney frank is the wrong guy to fxxk with..........right o'really
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/bill...
I wonder if he used his governor's email to send and receive those messages with Maria?
Also wonder if he used state funds to pay for any travel expenses when he had his trysts with Maria?
Another thing I'm trying to figure out is that apparently, his wife knew about this 5 months ago and requested 2 weeks ago that he leave the house. If this is true, what I don't understand is that he went anyway to meet Maria last week, and today, he said that he was "sorry" to his wife and kids.
How can he be "sorry" so soon, if his wife already knew about it, and he did it again? It's because he got caught.
at rawstory.com (if I recall correctly) and according to it, yes, several of his trips to Argentina were paid for by the citizens of SC.
gov't funds....... oh ohhhhhhh
I've been laughing hysterically about Sanford all day. Can't help it -- it just cracks me up.
There is a young woman (very cute by the way) standing behind Sanford. She realizes she is in the shot and is trying to look all serious but at various points you can see her turning red and barely holding back a grin.
I notice the corporate media and blogosphere have stopped talking about Limbaugh. It's nice not having to waste time with the infamous hate jock. It shows that even if his disgusting show is still on the air, we don't need to hear about it or waste precious time discussing his trash.
The internet is full of bogus 'American patriots', posting from places like Latvia, Qatar, and Nigeria.
I like Olberman but it was getting monotonous his constant skewering of LImbaugh. I agreed with all his criticism but after a while LImbaugh is essentially saying the same stupid things and its not really news worthy.
he's f'd his mistress, f'd his wife, f'd his four young sons (and that is despicable that he would humiliate them is such a public way), and tried really hard to f**k all of the residents of SC - but the court said, no thanks.
The good news is he's also Fu**ed his own political career and life.
Buh-Bye!
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
verrrry interesting ..
Rachel Maddow: Sanford and Sin
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
Bush knew those D.C. trains needed to be replaced. Will Barry still tax our health benefits? Looks like Iranian fundies are as good at hacking our computers as the Chinese commies. Here's a story to make us feel a bit better about our situation: We just kicked Spain's ass in soccer!
Obama gives Syria an ambassador again. Bad test results aren't always reported to patients.
Grats!
Great game!
I hoped some people in the US might actually watch it too. And that the news was mentioned in some places, like this site, perhaps.
But Americans seems sadly to be brainwashed not to appreciate the beauty and exitement of top level soccer. My theory is that it has everything to do with the commercial-unfriendly format of 2 x 45 minute period.
I have a wish that you might come around some day. The American soccer team is actually pretty good. As thoroughly demonstrated by last nights performance.
In '90 (the first year I was old enough to watch the World Cup at bars), I watched the games with African guys. Pretty much the same in '94. I was the only native-born American in the bar watching the games. But every year since, I've watched games- whether World Cup, Champions League or EPL- with a growing number of Americans.
I think John Amato put up a football/open thread during the European Championships last year. I know he follows the game, because we write each other about it all of the time. Maybe he'll put up a thread for it on Sunday if we ask nicely.
BTW, who are your teams- league and national? I support the US, of course, and Manchester United since the days that Eric Cantona played at Old Trafford.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Good to hear that soccer is becoming more popular in the US.
Yes, I remember John putting up the soccer thread during the EC, so I almost expected to see something about yesterdays great match here. Beating Spain, which is ranked number 1 (!) in the world in a serious cup semi final is sensational! Also, it was a great game with lots of exitement. A miracle that Spain never scored, but it takes nothing away from the effort and skill of the American team. Always fun when the underdog wins, although the USA team is getting better and better. I wish more American people would support it.
Also cool to hear that you watch the English Premier League. It's the best league in the world right now, and it's where you find the best football, imo. Sometimes the mix og sheer speed, quality of players and coaches and the physical and direct style with highly developed tactics there outmatches even national tournaments and parts of Champions League.
I am Norwegian, so on international basis, that's of course my team, but somehow, watching other teams can be more enjoyable. :P (Norway had a great period in the 90s, but it has been downhill since.) But I will mention this: Norway is the only nation never beaten by Brazil in soccer. Yay.
The club team in my heart is Liverpool, so in that manner, we are sworn enemies, Andy. :P
That's ok. To err is human. :)
But I must admit that I have good feelings for other English teams as well: The London clubs Tottenham and Fulham (the latter has a bit of an American connection, it seems.) are teams I like and especially enjoy watching, but also frankly anyone who plays good soccer, has interesting players etc. I am also watching some MLS when they send matches here, btw. Young speedy athletic players coupled with some South-American oldtimers and talents, an attacking style of play and some lack of defensive routine makes it a fun league to watch.
I know I'm preaching to the choir when it comes to you, Andy, but for others; here is my selling pitch why I enjoy the game so much:
The simplicity of the physics of soccer (the human body minus arms plus a round ball), the elegance of the great technicians and the geometrical/spatial play on the pitch coupled with the endless tactical possibilities and the psychological aspect of the team game makes it such a great sport. It's simple yet deep. Also, I think one of the things that makes it so great is that there is room for all physical builds. You can be small and agile or big and strong, tall or short or any combination and excell at the game, using that which nature gave you. It's "rock, paper and scissors" in a way, and good teams always have complementary traits in their squad. And in the end, it's all about what goes on inside the players' heads.
I will also make an argument that the low number of goals in soccer makes the sport interesting. Compared to some other team sports where the amount og goals are high and the laws of statistics mean that the best team always win, the low number of goals gives the game a random factor. (I think this is worth the occational boring 0-0 game.) Anyone can beat anyone, given the right circumstances. "The ball is round", as people way. Luck is a factor, although skill, determination and positive thinking are the major factors of success.
(I had to go though my comment and replace all the times I had written "football" with "soccer" to be polite to you Americans. D4mn j00! :)
Jenny Sanford, millionaire whose family fortune comes from the Skil Corp. power tool company, nows says that she kicked him out two weeks ago.
Yet in another AP article, she says, "I believe Mark has earned a chance to resurrect our marriage." How did he 'earn' that, by flying to Argentina to bang his mistress?
Lady has got issues.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
Rich, Republican heiress kicks out rich, Republican presidential-wanna-be instead of covering it up for the financial advantage of them both.
They're both lucky one of them didn't end up dead. Sounds like it could easily have gone that way. Money corrupts; so does power.
Sounds just like an episode of "Dancing with the Stars," dunnit?
I thought part of her statement was she kicked him out as a trial separation so that he could get his act together. I think she said something along the lines of they, ahem, he was supposed to be working on his part of the committment or words to that effect? She kept it quiet until he took off like a teen with puppy love.
Watching all of these christiofascist republican hypocrites, is like watching an episode of the worlds dumbest criminals.
Why didn't this moron just wear her underpanties on his head at the news conference, and clench her bra between his teeh?
It may have been more discrete than his actions.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Wasn't it King George who gave up his turn at the throne in the early 1900's so he could be with the woman he loved? It does happen.
Maybe Sanford really loves this woman more than Mrs. Skilsaw. Maybe she gets him. If so--and assuming he's honest about it--I wish them both well.
I don't care what the man does, as long as he doesn't shove his version of morality down everyone else's throat. His personal life is between his wife and him--and his mistress, of course.
I think you're thinking of Prince Edward and Mrs. Simpson.
He was King Edward VIII by then.
If this guy was a normal work a day sort, he would have been fired by now. Why does this man still have a job? This is the height of irresponsibility. Oh that's right, he had a good cry and a "forgive me I have sinned" moment so it's all good now, right?
Because it's late, and I'm bored, etc., I'm going to try a little experiment I think. Going to see if President Obama's genealogical info is in OneWorldTree yet, and call up the list of famous relatives if it is.
You see I'm mainly curious as to whether that list will turn up Richard Nixon, since that would be irony of ironys after today's post about Dick and abortion. (For those who didn't see my reponse in that thread, I am a distant, distant cousin of Dick, and I am mixed-race. Needless to say I was not amused)
I've never seen change without a fire
..but don't worry, you are obviously from the deep end of the gene pool. ;o}
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
*
I've never seen change without a fire
does have connections to James Garfield and William Howard Taft however (as well as a crapload of other interestng people). :)
I've never seen change without a fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaoM0YiG1B4
A man named Ray!
I like to dedicate this youtube to the Sanford Apology Tour Press Conference. I can't think about Sanford without thinking about Steve Martin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htTLWC1unMc
From The State - a daily morning newspaper published in Columbia, South Carolina, owned by The McClatchy Company - the largest newspaper in the South Carolina.
Hunch leads to airport and tired, troubled Sanford
E-mails detail intimate affair
Exclusive: Read e-mails between Sanford, woman
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
It's obvious the guy screwed up and screwed up big. Republicans and Democrats do it. You do it and I do it. He's paying for it and he apologized. All of this stone-throwing is really just a yawn festival.
You're certainly free to yawn .. even nod off if it pleases you.
I for one am quite pleased to see intrepid journalists stick it to the high and mighty self righteous hypocrites who do so much to damage the lives of the people whom they govern, people they could instead benefit by doing their f'ing jobs responsibly.
Yawn if you like .. and even nod off ..
But I'm truly grateful we still have intrepid journalists like Gina Smith.
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
someone for the same screw up.
Vitter and Sanford were throwing some stones of their own. lots of 'em.
I really don't care that he went and dipped his wick with someone other than his wife. I do care that he left without telling anyone where he was. That's what is the real issue here. He is a governor. He should understand he has responsibilities that he can't just walk away from. He needs to resign for that reason, not his infidelity.
totally irresponsible. if someone tipped off a reporter on the emails and where he'd be, that someone had the same opportunity to tip off someone who might want to do him more harm. really estupido to go AWOL.
How many public officials have gone AWOL during their term of office???
hypocritical, presidential-wannabe, in the pool.
It means, not that you apparently care, that this asshat, who set himself up as a moral authority and figure, will likely have no further chance to legislate how the rest of us should live.
I can speak for no one else here, but me, however, I am a much more moral person than this turd: I have a rock-solid marriage of 20+ years; I don't have affairs; I'm a good mother and wife; I'm kind to those less fortunate than I am.....
hey I know how much you guys like Red Eye on Fox. Watch this interview. They finally got a guest on that matched their mentality.
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?ma...
I wanted to smack Chuck Todd for saying wow, human nature is just so fascinating and we ought to lay off and look at John Edwards...he had a point, but generally, it's the Republican politicians trying to bring down the dems on the morality plank. And the press helping them. I don't hear dems screaming all the holier than thou anthems right now that we do from the Vitters, Ensigns, and Sanfords. Give me a break.
What do you guys think of the Obama Live at 9 (central ;) )? Did he sway people on the fence? How do you think ABC did? What did you think of the questions?
on the west coast. How are you?
Getting ready for bed. How boring am I? :)
are never boring.
no.
I have a few other words to describe you.
Boring is not one of them.:)
What is your conceptual, continuity?
they are kind words. She is very thoughtful and a real intellectual.
And thanks Ron. You're too kind!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18FMGc7-gsc
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Not that boring! :-)
That chick looks like Sandra Barnhardt (sic?).
Personally, I kind of wish the story about hiking naked along the Appalachian Trail on the summer solstice was true. It would have been a more interesting story! Heck, we've already had Ensign and Vitters.....this is getting kind of old. It would have been nice to spice it up with the neked story to add variety to the Repuglicans self destructing!
Who cares that he cheated. He left his post as Governor of the State of South Carolina. Not even a 7/11 employee can leave the store unattended. He is supposed to be in charge. If his state needed the militia to be called or declare a national disaster, someone has to take that call 3am Friday to 3pm Wednesday. This is friggin hilarious. Everyone knew where Bill Clinton was when he was gettin a blow job. In his office. This guy's freakin in Argentina. this is too rich
"Sanford did more than travel and cheat. He consciously disappeared. That is a form of hate toward anyone who cared about him or depended upon him, at work or at home... There is something psychotically narcissistic about a need to disappear from the world in which you have real-life obligations."
I agree with anyone who would say this was pretty lame. But it's also terribly romantic. People do stupid things when they're in love and lust. I think it's a stretch that it's a form of hate.
And they leave town, turn off their cell phone, don't return emails, you have NO IDEA where they are, you try not to fear the worst, they're gone and you have no idea if they are alive or dead, for six days.
That's the cruelest thing I can think of, to do to a loved one. Separated or not, that's what happened to his wife and kids.
Now imagine if you were a boss and one of your employees did that? Would you call the police and file a missing person report or just assume he didn't want his JOB anymore? The people of SC just had that happen.
As I've posted elsewhere in this thread, this HAS happened to me recently. And it is indescribably painful, and seems intentionally hurtful and irresponsible.
But I still believe that at the end of the day, it's an exercise in extremely poor judgment...not psychosis. Where is the goood in portraying him as a monster, when the plain facts speak for themselves? Of course his actions demand swift repercussions and, one hopes, the end of his political career. And of course his actions will inflict damage on his family that will echo for years and years. I think what's unfair is to deliver an armchair diagnosis a man who has exercised EXTREMELY poor judgment as being mentally ill.
...but now that it's all sunk in, um, yeah. It's totally irresponsible to his family, his job, and the people who rely on him to serve their interests. Sure I may have a bender sometimes and be a bit slow or take a day off, but not if I have commitments to deal with, or without talking to someone. I don't have kids, but I called all my Dads on Father's Day because I love them and they are a part of my life. And this guy is off running around in South America with young kids home on Father's Day? Totally screwy.
In fact, when he said it on TV that first time, he just seemed stupid. I just hope it was some sweet, sweet lovin' he got.
With IOUs.
did a fraking number on that great state didn't they?
1) deregulated the electric grid
2) protected enron while they raped an entire economy
3) used the two items above to push out a dem governor who wanted regulation and investigations
4) put in a rethug fraud who took california's ingenuity and redirected it into self loathing....
5) These folks keep governing us into the dirt, why in the heck are people still voting for them?!
electronic voting!
Some stuff you can't make up!
The Simpsons.......Homer takes out a home equity loan to throw a party ends up being foreclosed, but his nice Christian neighbor, Ned, buys the home, fixes all kinds of problems, and lets Homer slide on rent. To see the full story link at bottom.
Marge and Homer, were acting very strange in this episode. Also a christian Neighbor buying the house for a non-Christian seems a tad far fetched to me. Very very Strange, the Simpson's sneaking some FOX news propaganda. Just out of curiosity, how many houses has the church of ladder day saints bought for familys in Foreclosure? How many Christian Neighbors bought houses next door about to be foreclosed on, to save thy neighbors?
They are sitting and waiting to buy the houses at rock bottom prices to make a profit off their neighbors bad fortunes, that's all I am seeing, am I wrong?
http://www.hulu.com/watch/61224/the-simpsons-...
I agree with uraniumwilly.
Sanford's disappearing act was irresponsible and disrespectful NOT hateful.
Sanford's disappearance was totally reckless and irresponsible. He is the chief executive of a state, which is no different from being the chief executive of any major corporation. In fact, I'd say it's a bigger responsibility in many ways. The other question that comes up is how he funded these trips to South American to visit his mistress, although it turns out, Sanford's wife is loaded. So apparently Sanford is another GOP opportunist who married a rich heiress to jump start his political career.
It's not the scandal, it's the hypocrisy.
Yes, Republicans are hypocritical liars .And when you point out it's about the hypocrisy.......... why its time to change the subject.
Family Values Platform, and all that preaching noise that makes our ears bleed, while secretly sneaking around in the middle of the night with their mistresses.
I am so sick of the GOP liars pretending to be the ones who hold the moral high road!
Yet another republican hater getting caught.
Governor push the big red button marked self-destruct now.
LuLu
There is something psychotically narcissistic about a need to disappear from the world in which you have real-life obligations.
Sanford is without a doubt yet another conservative hypocrite, but this statement is naive. Everyone wants to disappear from their "real-life" obligations on occasion. If you think otherwise, then you probably don't have any real-life obligations.
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