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A funny, and all too true, video from the satirical HAARM.ORG (Healthy Americans Against Reforming Medicine).

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Funny, but me and Barry think it's a military coup!

what is hillary talking about?

I think he had ambitions of being a dictator and so apparently did the Honduran Supreme Court and just about everyone else in Honduras.

"SO READY" to jump to conclusions. Google "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised." You might draw a different conclusion. This is the exact same thing that were happened in Venezuala. Wanting to make changes in the constitution does not mean dictatorship. If that is the case, we are under a dictatorship.

Good point. Most of the world leaders I've read are denouncing this coup.

Ron you nailed it. Since the corportist, coup de tat of 2000 the USofBLOODYISRAEL is indeed, just that a dictatorship.

that some people on the left are outraged by right wingers like Bush when they evade constitutional laws by something as expedient as a signing statement but are quite alright with naked power grabs as long as the grabber calls himself a lefty.
Just about every asshole who has made himself a tinpot dictator-for-life has started out as a populist. On principle I'll agree that this particular president has the right barring the Honduran equivalent of impeachment to serve until his last day and not one more.

According to this, the coup plotters may have been involved with the School of Americas
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/kri...

Am I the only one seeing a pattern here.

First Obama evokes the spirit of the Monroe Doctrine during the "debates" with the old man. Obama's inaugurated. Then we see an almost civil war in Bolivia. Then an assassination attempt on Morales. Then Obama and Hilary both threaten Brazil over their economic development meetings with China and possibly getting off the dollar. Now a coup in Honduras.

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For me, all you had to say is School of the Amerikas and I knew that the CIA in cahoots with the rich of Honduras have engineered this coup de tat for the corporations, of course.

To which I would have thought you'd be accustomed to by now.

and that hot sauce induced induced ring-of-fire that makes me thankful I live in a country with universal health care.

Cuba?

But we have hot sauce too.

rule with the firemen from ct...and the wingnuts are all in a tizzy

THIS PROVES THAT SOTAMAYOR IS UNQUALIFIED

they all say

thing is...it was another 5-4 vote and sonja would be joining the 4

oh, and amazingly, scalia voted with the libs today on states rights over the fed on banking issues....who spiked his punch?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

(No direct mention of the new "CFL's" (Compact Fluorescent Lightbulbs) that contain enough mercury per bulb that there's a warning on each box telling the consumer to "don a hazmat suit for clean-up of broken bulbs...leave the room for 15 minutes, open all windows and dispose of all used bulbs at a designated recycling center". Yeah, right. 99% of the average humanoid on Earth will simply toss the suckers into the trash where they'll end up at the local landfill and will eventually leach into the watershed.)

Another GREAT freakin' idea America!!! Right up there with CFC's that deplete the ozone and asbestos!

IDIOTS!!!

And lastly...I LOVE this one....The U.S. Supreme Court protects TERRORISTS!!!:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_go_...

Um

All fluorescent lights have mercury in them and not just the compact ones. Just enough is put in to last the expected life of the bulb. The mercury is slowly absorbed into the glass during this time. The bulb fails when the emission mix is exhausted. An exhausted bulb presents little environmental hazard. When offset against the energy savings it is on balance a good idea. Compared with the heavy metals present in other consumer goods like batteries this is the least of your worries.

That break before they're spent?

The guy at the Pittsfield recycling center was so uptight when we brought him a box full that we wanted to get rid of (brand new) that he said he'd have to don some gloves to handle them and that they had to be put into a special machine to remove the mercury.

I am primarily concerned about people who buy them, break them before they are spent and don't take the proper precautions in handling the debris properly.

Considering the mercury pollution that is already present in the oceans etc. (pregnant women can't even eat ANY fish anymore!!), and also considering that the average Joe and Jane America don't read labels, yes, it absolutely concerns me that we are opening yet ANOTHER catastrophic Pandora's Box of Irreversible Global Pollution.

Next time you're at the hardware store read the labels and then go to the EPA's website on these bulbs.

Regardless of the energy they save, I fear "the cure" will be far, far worse than "the disease".

These bulbs have already been "mandated" in Australia and other countries, BTW.

in these CFL bulbs. There is less than .05% of mercury in vapour form in the bulb, which about 100 times LESS than that found in your average thermometer.

The cleanup precautions are primarily to discourage using a vacuum cleaner to clean up a broken bulb; this disperses the heavy metal into the air, allowing it to be inhaled. As a heavy metal, mercury vapour will settle to the ground rapidly, where it can be wiped up with a damp cloth.

I agree that disposal is a major problem with these; communities are going to have to install recycling drop-off boxes, in order for people to have a convenient place to dispose of broken bulbs. Of course, you could always visit one of the bulb manufacturer's websites and purchase a recycling box (Sylvania offers one for $15 that will hold 50 CFLs, and is postage-paid, so all you do is seal it and give it to your postal carrier. It is delivered to a center that recycles the bulbs, the parts of which are used by Sylvania to build new bulbs).

Or, to be truly Luddite, you could forgo all electric lights and read by kerosene lamp...

Oooh, good to know about Sylvania.
https://recyclepak.sylvania.com/RecyclepakOrder

Of course, since they're getting reusable parts back, it'd be nice if they'd send them cheaper, but whatever.

The new term is "man-caused’ disasters"

She'll be replacing one of the four (Souter).

so sonja agrees with the minority

which will stay a minority....until i die, or there is a miracle

so the justice is qualified

just not a qualified wingnut

the roberts court will not be satisfied until all minority rights are stripped away

sad thing is....in 20 years, it will be the whites who are the minority...

I think it's a great thing that whites will be in the minority. (I don't think you meant that in a derogatory way--that isn't what I'm saying.)

When my wife and I lived in New Mexico, we were daily in the minority (often THE minorities). It was instructive after growing up in a basically lily-white state. And people were pretty friendly to us.

People are people. But it never hurts to be reminded that no one has a lock on civil liberties--unless they guard them.

Living in Korea for 12 years, I have to say the Koreans have been lovely and welcoming (to this white guy.) 99% Korean, 1% foreigners (that's what they call us.)

but it will be fun watching whites trying to get affirmative action reinstituted, when they cant get their kids into state school, cuz all the places have been taken by latins

The FDA eventually found the cookie dough with the E. Coli which Nestle was trying to hide for at least five years, for some reason. GM will still pay you back for its crappy cars. Courtesy of MichaelMoore.com , gay guy gets drain bamage from pigs raiding a gay bar. Fuckitallrod doesn't want to listen to Krugman about more stimulus money needed to save the country. Monsanto poisoned an Iowan water supply. Speaking of Iowa, the NRA helped kill one of its prominent coaches. Oliver Stone and Maher discussion. Iran's as reliable with the votes as Katherine Harris. At least people with student loans will get a break. Do the Right Thing turns 20. Arizona doesn't mind bartenders being shot up, as long as patrons are allowed to have their toys. RI plans to get rid of its slave-associated name. The next generation of Gulf War Syndrome emerges. Snowe is such a ho for insurance monopolies. It took Barbra Boxer's leaning on the EPA to reveal more coal ash sites. After getting away with murder, Exxon says "Keep the change".

TEHRAN – To calm and distract the populace, Ahmedinejad staged a tribute to Michael Jackson.
In an effort to distract his people from the election, Mahmoud Ahmedinejad organized a special tribute to Michael Jackson. Broadcast on state television this weekend, the tribute video was a restaging of Jackson’s Smooth Criminal starring the Iranian Dictator.
Filmed on a government soundstage in Tehran, the video opens on Ahmedinejad, wearing a white pinstripe suit and blue shirt, entering a 1930’s style club. Going to the back of the club he approaches a gangster, Mr. Big, who appears to be an Armani clad overweight version of Uncle Sam.
Mr. Big sits in a large chair atop a cage holding several Iranian children. Ahmedinejad accuses Mr. Big of having stolen the “Hearts and Minds of Iran’s youth” and demands he return them. The villain only laughs and orders his men to shoot Ahmedinejad.
The Iranian Leader throws a coin into a jukebox, which have been outlawed in Iran since 1982, that starts to play. Mahmoud Ahmedinejad leads the gangsters in dancing to Smooth Criminal in a low budget recreation of Michael Jackson’s famous video. Dancers for the video were taken from Iran’s popular show “So You Think You Can Dance for the Glory of Allah?”
Using his “Dance Magic” to distract the gangsters, Mahmoud Ahmedinejad frees the children and escapes. Shortly the magic wears off and Mr. Big orders his men to follow “That cursed yet benevolent man!” Ahmedinajad and the children are soon surrounded by the gangster and his men.
Looking to the sky Ahmedinejad sees a crescent moon and star, and drawing power from the Iranian people, turns into a giant Iranian robot. The robot looks suspiciously like an original 1984 Optimus Prime doll, repainted with the Iranian national colors. In a dazzling stop motion animation sequence cut together with stock news footage of explosions, the giant Ahmedinejad robot dispatches the American gangsters and saves the day.
Ratings for the broadcast cannot yet be determined, but State sponsored media insists that it was incredibly popular despite millions of Iranians saying otherwise.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/9399/iran...

yes, we all know that tv is used to sedate the masses....but iran has turned it into an art

Criticism From Left On Health Care “Doesn’t Move Me One Whit”

'Cause she's full of shit.

For more info on a single payer - watch

http://1payer.net/what-is-single-payer-health...

today on his radio program was thinking of going to Canada to have a town hall on what they thought of single payer, I emailed him and suggested that he have the Town Hall on his new TV show on MSNBC. Email ED and see if we can get it going.

When his bosses at GE aren't forcing him to cover Michael Jackson wall to wall.

So?

What has that got to do with what I suggested. Damn, why do you guys always think that someone that wants to make a diference, can't.

Hold on, now. I'm not saying Ed Schultz can't make a difference...or anybody else.

On his radio show today, Schultz said he'd gotten a weekend's worth of angry emails from viewers because he'd promised to cover something about health care on every show until something got done, but he didn't on Friday night because (in his words) his "corporate bosses" at GE had told him he had to go "wall-to-wall" with Michael Jackson stories.

My point (poorly expressed, I can see, because you were talking about his radio show, not his teevee show) was not that Ed Schultz is a toady or something. Schultz was trying to point out that even the best of intentions often get sliced and diced by whichever corporation controls the particular media outlet. That was all I was trying to say.

I'm sure Ed Schultz does good work.

I just get tired of all the negative BS that people come here with. Regardless of what we want to do, we have a lot of obstacles to overcome. I have lived life and I know that I couldn't approach things with a negative attitude. When I got down on situations, I had to pick myself up to make changes but when we are dealing with what we're facing now, we can't let our personal problems get in the way of what our utimate goals are. I get discouraged sometimes but I don't feel that that the games over.

That video is hilarious and absolutely to the point.

I doubleclicked the embedded video & went to YouTube to play it .. and there in the related videos were several more from Project HAARM .. all created by SEIU.

Great Find!

By Virginia Senator Mark Warner.

He may give boring speeches, but he's got this right.

A Risky Choice for A Risk Czar

Over the past six months, President Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner have worked tirelessly to rescue the U.S. economy from our nation's longest and deepest recession since the Great Depression. As the administration has shifted from crisis management to regulatory modernization, it has sought to vastly expand the powers of an opaque institution: the Federal Reserve. This is a mistake. ..

The events of the past two years have underscored the need for regulation of the financial markets that anticipates and mitigates systemic risk. The events of the past 20 years have demonstrated that the Federal Reserve is the wrong choice as a systemic risk regulator.
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What Madoff Really Needs is Company, and Lots of It

Don't get Madoff, get even: Bernie Madoff may deserve his 150-year jail sentence – but he wasn't the biggest crook on Wall Street

starting with our treasury sec and his predecessor

geitner and paulson can share a cell

paulson and geithner are small potatoes.

what about rich uncle pennybags?

he's the one tap-dancing atop the golden pyramid...

Can we hope they all get the same? I hope so.

Bernie Madoff will have a massive heart attack, be transferred to the hospital, will "die", be cremated, have the wailing funeral with his wailing wife and a "private" memorial.

Then she'll disappear in a few months out of Manhattan never to be seen again.

Truth is they'll be at the beach in the Grand Caymans sipping Pina Coladas with Kenny Boy Lay and his Mrs.

God am I cynical!!!!

Just remember...you heard it here first.

I have always thought Ken Lay is sitting pretty in some villa. It all seems a little too convenient. Look at Dickhead Cheney. He is supposed to have a very weak heart, but the ice still keeps pumping through his veins.

Cynical??? Or realistic? The big question.

Just remember...you heard it here first. Will do.

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do you mean to imply whoever's in charge considers heroin a resource?

They've got some other videos, too, but I like this one.

Saw an Orwellean insurance company propaganda commercial tonight on msnbc. They asked us to call our congressmen on their behalf, before congress stops them from raping us. No kidding. This is getting just too freakin' bizzare for words.

They claimed that the elderly love the prescription drug plan - Medicaid part D, also know as "rapacous corporate welfare, subsidized by screwing the shit out of Grandma and Grandpa" bill.

Funny thing, every senior I have talked to hates this program. Some cannot afford the drugs they need, and they wished Bush's huge corporate giveaway would just "go away."

Why is there no one enforcing a truth in advertising law against these lying bastards. I cannot believe how far down the corporate shithole this country has gone. God I hate these SOB's!

I believe that the SCOTUS has decided to take the case against McCain-Feingold filed by corporations that says keeping them from putting up anti-candidate commercials 3 months prior to an election is a violation of their "free speech." (I may have mangled that, but i believe that's the idea.)

NPR's correspondent said he believed, given the make-up of the court, that SCOTUS was almost certain to overturn this element of McC-Fgold in favor of those wounded "persons," the American corporation.

This country is so fucked.

tonight on dvd. a show about how a virus that changed everyone to a totally obediant slave to a cause. One of the main characters was Daniel Craig, our new 007 star. The time frame was during the GWB administration. I think they are on to something but there are only 20% of the population affected. Damn good thing it didn't really happen or maybe it did. I always thought that the rightwing nuts had to be from another planet.

GNA

Thanks for letting me vent.

We all need it now and then. Good night.

Sheriff investigating incident at Busby fundraiser

A deputy responded to a noise complaint Friday night at a residence in Cardiff, where the party was held. The party ended when the deputy, Marshall Abbott, pepper-sprayed several people and arrested the hostess, 60-year-old Shari Barman, who was cited for obstruction and misdemeanor assault.

The folks at TPM spoke to Ms. Busby:

"You could hear his voice very clearly, it was loud. But as far as the actual words, I didn't hear them," Busby explained. "I heard my name, and obviously derogatory words. Other people heard profanity, and somebody heard something about gays, as well."It should be noted that the event was hosted by a lesbian couple.

"The deputies were telling people that they were taking statements from, that the call came in about noise from a Democratic rally, or Democratic demonstration," said Busby. In fact, she said, she had last spoken at about 8:30 p.m., and the police arrived an hour later when most of the attendees had left. "It was a nuisance-noise call, because there was no noise, and the fact that it was described as a Democratic rally or demonstration indicates to me that this person was calling for his own political motives."

Talk about a police state.

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I think I found the perfect replacement for the Star Spangled Banner for our National Anthem, as it is much easier to sing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipVseQFigvI

Disappointed Europe "Demands More" from US on Climate Action - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/06/europ...
"Which is why I nonetheless view the bill's passage as a victory--perhaps a slightly embarrassing one, but it's something of a triumph considering the obstacles overcome. For the US, passing this bill is indeed a solid, and yes, very tiny step in the right direction. Call me cynical, but I think that's all we could muster at the moment."
I agree with Europe....oooh...does that make me 'un-american' no....it makes me smarter than those who would say that...

Groups Send Obama a Letter Over 2 Degree Temp Increase - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/06/obama...
The places to make this commitment are many. The recent Major Economies Forum would have been an ideal place, as will be next week's G8 conference in Italy. Such a commitment would be viewed by other nations as a strong show of faith that the US is serious abut tackling climate change--much more serious then the recent Waxman-Markey bill would indicate.

Why he was the worst president ever: Report: 85 percent of indicted locally elected officials under the Bush administration were Dems
- http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/06/26/Bush...
That's why the founders were rolling over in the grave during those horrific 8 years, when you politicize justice (Justice Dept, courts) you destroy the very concept & the morality of right/wrong...

Robert Parry: Obama, They Want You to Fail - http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/2009/0628...
Republican 'bi-partisanship' is as useful as navel lint and as practiced as teen abstinence in the Palin household....

What's wrong with our country? Why our current 'Supreme court' is total BS: High court losses stun environmentalists -- Environmentalists are 0-for-5 at the high court this term
- http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?...
What is clear is the Court's heightened interest in environmental law. The justices have decided 15 cases in just the past five terms, but in none of those terms, in fact in none of the past nine terms, have environmentalists experienced a complete shutout.
"This has never, I believe, happened before, and this includes some big wins," said Richard Lazarus, co-director of the Georgetown University Law Center Supreme Court Institute, who argued and lost one of the five decisions this term.
For environmentalists, the defeats were particularly painful because their interests had prevailed in the courts below in all five cases. The justices granted review at the behest of business, even when the solicitor general of the United States recommended denying review.
Based on the five decisions, the trend this term is "business always wins, even when the government's interest is to the contrary," said John Hanson, a partner at Washington's Beveridge & Diamond who represents businesses in environmental litigation.
You can't have an economy, without an environment....

Why we overestimate the costs of climate change legislation - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-26-overe...

Water Wars: A right to rain - http://www.grist.org/article/a-right-to-rain

America's Senator: Sen. Bernie Sanders: We Must Stop the Rampant Fraud in the Health Care Industry - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-bernie-sand...
I live in Georgia, but this man is my senator, whenever I'm asked...he's my answer...

Sebelius Indicates Willingness To Compromise On Public Plan, Offers Support For Co-Op Proposal - http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/29/sebelius-...
In an emailed statement to Bloomberg News, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said she’s open to the idea of dropping a public health insurance option in favor of a medical-insurance cooperative. “You could theoretically design a co-op plan that had the same attributes as a public plan,” Sebelius said.
Healthcare is a human right, not a 'privelege' only those with no souls/conscience would say that....

Blood for Oil update: BP-led consortium takes on Iraq's Rumaila oilfield; that's as in British Petroleum. Any doubt why Tony Blair had such a hard on about Iraq?
- http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/id...
'Mission Accomplished'.....we can pull 'our troops' out because the Iraqis & private contractors can 'protect' the oil Fields...err...Iraq.... Bet the Oil Ministry is happy, eh?

Profiles in fantasyland: "HE KEPT US SAFE" - http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/content/he-...
The only things disagreeing with that BS are the CIA, FBI, reality, and people who think about what they hear (ie/sans about 35% of this country - right wingnut noise machine followers)

For the World's Wealthy, A Setback Most Slight - http://toomuchonline.org/articlenew_2009/june...
Thirteen years ago, two firms that manage the wealth of the world’s wealthy — New York’s Merrill Lynch and the Paris-based Capgemini — began publishing an annual scorecard that tracks just how many wealthy people inhabit our globe and just how many trillions these wealthy have at their ready, available to invest.
Year after year, the two firms tracked these trillions piling ever higher and higher. At 2007's close, their World Wealth Report last year pronounced, our globe’s “high net worth individuals” held a combined $40.7 trillion — and that total didn’t include the value of the primary homes where these “HNWIs” lived or the art they hung on their walls or the jewelry they hid away in their safes.
US has 2,460,000 millionaires.... About 80,000 individuals worldwide qualify as ultras. These super rich make up roughly 0.001 percent of the world’s population. They hold, even after the 2008 economic collapse, 10 percent of our planet’s entire wealth.
Greed is good? No, that was a cautionary tale, and that movie line was meant as a warning....and the latest depression serves as the final nail in the coffin of con-servative 'trickle down' philosophy (the origins of which go back to humorist Will Rogers during the first Great Depression - satirically attempting to 'make sense' of madness, and as with anything they don't fully understand, con-servatives latched onto it and ran with it...)

Worthless pile of .... Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Dirty Energy/GA) has blocked President Obama’s candidate for regulation czar, Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, because Sunstein has argued that animals should have the right to sue humans in court.
- http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/chambliss...
Indeed, in his 2004 book, Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions, Sunstein wrote: “I will suggest that animals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives, to prevent violations of current law.”
More specifically, he wrote: “Laws designed to protect animals against cruelty and abuse should be amended or interpreted to give a private cause of action against those who violate them, so as to allow private people to supplement the efforts of public prosecutors.”

Calling him out, when he's wrong: Obama Opposes Trade Sanctions in Climate Bill - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/us/politics...
Take a look at 'protectionist' China/Japan/Germany, etc the countries that have tariffs that protect their economies from the 'free marketeer' BS that has decimated our economy/treasury/dollar value.... Believing in fairy tales, doesn't make good policy Mr. President....stop the BS, you need to go full out FDR/Teddy Roosevelt and make this nation a world leader again...

Katrina vanden Heuvel: Time to End False Bipartisanship - http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut/446851/t...
The good news is that Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel is now talking about how bipartisanship may need to be redefined downward if the Democrats are going to pass meaningful healthcare reform. In a meeting with journalists last week, Emanuel proposed that health-care legislation could be bipartisan without Republican votes.

Profiles in religious right hypocrisy: What would Jesus build? A religious broadcaster is building a $4 million home in a gated, lakefront community in western South Carolina at the same time that the ministry has cut jobs and reset thermostats in its new headquarters.
- http://www.newsobserver.com/1565/story/158788...

Lieberman Cup (ie, traitor championship) update: Dianne Feinstein: Criticism From Left On Health Care "Doesn't Move Me One Whit" Does not getting re-elected matter one whit? - http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/president-o...
Is she really from California? Feinstein, just another Lieberman...a con-servative (democrat only in title).... I'll be sure to support her primary opposition should she have some...

Liberal groups unleash fire on behalf of America. P.M. Carpenter Exclusively on BuzzFlash for Monday, June 29. What we do know -- what anywhere from 75 percent to 85 percent of the American public knows -- is that a public plan makes public-policy sense, it's long overdue, and it indeed "has become a proxy for the question of Democrats who stand on principle and represent their constituents."
- http://blog.buzzflash.com/carpenter/429

OMG KITTENS! Colorado Biologists Discover Litter of Lynx Kittens - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/06/lynx-...
Spring brought a surprise delivery from the stork: A litter of 10 lynx kittens—the first newborns documented in Colorado since 2006, gladdening the hearts of conservationists.

Political Irony: http://politicalirony.com/2009/06/29/the-ongo...
http://politicalirony.com/2009/06/29/health-c...

Not able to display thumbnails of video clips or page headers in Firefox. Comes up fine in IE. What am I doing wrong?

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If we want to destroy capitalism & Christianity and make our boys and boys and girls and girls marry each other. And a black President!

No, I mean a really black President.

First, we need R. Crumb, Global Warming & the California Free Lunch
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