Open Thread
By bluegal Thursday Nov 05, 2009 8:30pm
[cartoon by Claus Seidel]
Michael Bloomberg spent a reported 105 million dollars on his re-election campaign, the same amount Norway donated in 2007 to The World Bank for a health care initiative for the poorest nations.
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won't be giving Bloomberg the Nobel next year?
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Being ripped off to the tune of $60,000 for car antennas as bomb detecting devices.
http://sniffexquestions.blogspot.com/2009/11/...
Seems that on the coat tails of the legitimate sniffing devices, some UK company called ATSC decided to do a scam selling car antennas as detectors, and 'selling' them on a no-bid basis for mega bucks to the hapless Iraqis.
The sad details are in the link above, they made $70 million dollars from the sales. Company website closed down now, and they are not answering their phones.
They are using these quack devices at the hundreds of checkpoints in Baghdad, so no surprise the number of suicide bombings are ramping up.
I mean, shouldn't the US be doing this instead of the Brits??!
in the past, for drug detection by cops.
Not an electronic device which sniffs the air, but a divining rod thing.
Polygraphs have been used for decades as quack interrogation devices, prob inspired by the Grey Lenseman box in E.E. 'doc' Smiths 1930s novel.
Some Police departments use psychics if the reality TV shows are to be believed, prob as a cover for results from illegal searches. But I cannot imagine any court in the US or Europe accepting into the record any psychic evidence.
I've done it occasionally. But they can't go to a judge for a warrant on a psychic impression.
You've used a psychic in the course of police work? Whatever for?
There is not a single scientifically verifiable case of any psychic providing any helpful information to any police department anywhere in the world.
There is absolutely no evidence of any psychic ability of any kind. Most self-described "psychics" are frauds.
The few who actually believe they are "psychics" are, in fact, psychos.
my psychic tells me that I will win millions. She just can't nail down when yet. She wants me to come back next week and she's sure she will be able to give me the answer then. She is sure every time she tells me that.
Just because there is no "empirically measured scientific proof" does not mean something doesn't exist.
The fact is, there are more than a couple of cops will say they have solved crimes using tips and clues from psychics.
Bull Shit, you are parsing words...no empirical evidence means absence of evidence ergo non falsifiable. Scientific or double blind study or any controlled study renders Psychic abilities within the spectrum of serendipity. Can any Psychic produce a cancelled check from any law enforcement entity for Psychic services???
I meant no animosity towards you NoGWB. I could have chosen my words more carefully :-)
The old Carl Sagan quote is "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." That's true. But the corollary is that there is NO REASON TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING WITHOUT EVIDENCE. You don't get to turn the concept into, "Therefore we should believe, and act on, any notion without scientific evidence for its existence."
Yeah, some cops claim that they have solved crimes using psychics. They're either lying or they're deluded.
Some cops might also claim that they have solved crimes using the help of witches and fairies. Would you invoke the same paltry argument about the absence of evidence in that case?
Got a link on the US drug application?
The "bomb detection" thing is shameful. KBR must be envious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T_jwq9ph8k
http://www.ih2000.net/ira/quad0422.htm
http://www.skepdic.com/quadro.html
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ATSC (UK)
But Global Technical still has its website up, complete with pictures of the dowsing rod.
Perhaps some Sheriff Johnny Thunderpants from East Hayseed Nebraska engaged a self proclaimed psychic to help him find his car keys, other than that police do not use psychics for any reason.....well perhaps for the amusement factor.
However when it comes to dowsing rods (auto-motor response), or psychics (looney tunes), they would be better advised to save themselves the trouble and flip a coin.
There has never, never been a documented case of a psychic being used by law enforcement to solve a case......it's all hype folks!
The reality is that Psychics, much to the annoyance of said law enforcement, impose themselves on law enforcement and are typically turned away, or given some false lead to get them away from the real investigation.
While you may be right in general, the fact is that some psychics have helped solve cases.
There is no evidence that any Psychic has helped solve a case other than making a coffee run for the guys doing the real work.
First there was Wendell Potter who resigned his executive career at CIGNA to tell the truth about health insurance deceit.
And now there's Andy who "did all the damage I could being a spokesjerk for Blue Cross Blue Shield" and now tells all:
Was I hired to stand in the way of health care reform?
From Brave New Films at YouTube.
the media and the alleged shooter's next of kin that he was dead all day long and into the evening, then suddenly the news comes out that the shooter is alive and in stable condition??
Plus, I would think there would be video tape of practically everything that happened at Fort Hood today in relation to this horrible tragedy?
I mean, why would the authorities tell the alleged shooter's cousin that he was dead when he was only wounded and in "stable" condition? During press reports the cousin refers to the shooter as "he WAS a good person"...etc.
And one more thing....on a different topic...
I heard today on NPR that Pelosi is planning on having a vote on H.R. 3200 this Saturday. Does anyone know whether or not the Weiner amendment will be allowed to be debated prior to the vote?
Also, is there any word on the results of the Congressional Budget Office's scoring of H.R. 676??
Thanks!
Here it is:
From Congressmen Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers
Dear Friends,
We thank you for your continued devotion to the cause of health care for All Americans. We have worked together for many years to write, promote and campaign for HR676, a single payer, not for profit health care system. Your work, in communities across America, has been instrumental in helping at least ten states create single payer movements, with many more states to come.
Tomorrow, the House of Representatives is scheduled to consider a single payer bill. As the two principal co-authors of the Conyers single payer bill, we want to offer a strong note of caution about tomorrow's vote.
The bill presented tomorrow will not be HR676. While we are happy to relinquish authorship of a single payer bill to any member who can do better, we do not want a weak bill brought forward in a hostile climate to unwittingly accomplish what would be interpreted as a defeat for single payer.
Here are the facts: There has been no debate in Congress over HR676. There has not been a single mark-up of the bill. Single payer was "taken off the table" for the entire year by the White House and by congressional leaders. There has been no reasonable period of time to gather support in the Congress for single payer. Many members accepted a "robust public option" as the alternative to single payer and now that has disappeared. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has scored the bill scheduled for a vote tomorrow in a manner which is at odds with many credible assumptions, meaning that it will appear to cost way too much even though we know that true single payer saves money since one of every three dollars in the health care system goes to administrative costs caused by the insurance companies. Is this really the climate in which we want a test vote?
While state single payer movements are already strong, the national single payer movement is still growing. Many progressives in Congress, ourselves included, feel that calling for a vote tomorrow for single payer would be tantamount to driving the movement over a cliff. The thrill of the vote would disappear quickly when the result would be characterized not as a new beginning for single payer but as an end. Such a result would be seen as proof that Congress need not pay attention to efforts to restore in Conference Committee the right of states to pursue single payer without fear of legal attacks by insurance companies.
We are always grateful for your support. We are now asking you to join us in suggesting to congressional leaders that this is not the right time to call the roll on a stand-alone single payer bill. That time will come. And when it does there will not be any doubt of the outcome. This system of health care injustice will not be able to endure forever. We are pledged to make sure of that.
Sincerely,
Congressmen John Conyers and Dennis Kucinich
"Scheduled to consider" is all I need to read. I trust Kucinich and will downplay any spin the worthless media whores try to put on this.
Fight for single payer in your state.
But this is awful. That's it? That's all? We should not only give up on single payer (for now) but actively ask our congressional leaders to give up on it?
Um, no.
Single payer gets its strength from size. I don't see a small state plan being able to compete with a chain of pizza joints let alone Wellpoint.
This is a lot to digest... and it's not sitting well.
I can hear Pelosi say, I planned on having the vote but not enough people showed up. The interest just isn't there for HR 3200.
Michael when I look at you I want to Puke !
You may have made a lot of money but to twist the world
Common, you are a sick elephant !
mil on an exercise in self-aggrandizement.
But of course, that doesn't make it any less sickening....
My favorite is when fellow residents of NYC say, "He's been a good mayor." That's debatable, and in the history of NYC mayors we've had our share f horrendous ones, so in comparison Bloomberg ain't bad. The problem with this logic is that these rules aren't in place to keep out the good ones, they're in place to protect us from the bad ones. Imagine if Guiliani had gotten a third term as many people wanted. I swear, some folks just don't understand the purpose of rules, they're not to protect us from good people, they're to protect us from bad ones.
Webster Tarpley interviewed by Russia Today wrt recent Italian conviction of CIA officers for kidnapping.
Tarpley says the same CIA station chief sentenced to 8 years for his role in the kidnapping was also involved in the forged documents purportedly showing Saddam's efforts to buy yellow cake from Niger.
Italy turns the tables on the CIA
Corriere Della Sera again. I've only recently begun to learn Italian so it was a little hard to follow the article on the CIA convictions, but they did call our government delusional, I believe... :S
yet Obama refused to support his opponent?
hmmm ? care to find out why?
Maybe cause BBerg 'donated' $100M to Obama's buddies ...talk about a sellout ...
Heres the transcript from Amy Goodman:
AMY GOODMAN: And the role Canada played in Obama not coming to New York?
JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, reportedly—the New York Times reported today that Canada called Valerie Jarrett at the White House in recent days to try to persuade Barack Obama not to campaign for Bill Thompson, the Democrat, and that Valerie Jarrett and the people in—and the White House operatives assured Canada that the President would stay out of New York, would not campaign for Bill Thompson, the Democrat, so that—
AMY GOODMAN: And he was right here, Obama—
JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, yes.
AMY GOODMAN: —because he came here for the weekend for Corzine.
JUAN GONZALEZ: He was here—he was here in New York.
AMY GOODMAN: In Jersey.
JUAN GONZALEZ: And he was also campaigning in New Jersey. But he agreed not to campaign. So you had a situation where these personal donations that the Mayor has been giving to virtually—you name the nonprofit in New York, and they all have an anonymous donation that they all know was from Michael Bloomberg. So he has been essentially buying the entire nonprofit community of New York City, donating at least $100 million a year of his personal money in philanthropic contributions for the last decade. So I think the combination of his philanthropic giving and his own political campaign spending means that he has spent money like no one in history has ever spent for political office.
AMY GOODMAN: And, of course, Bloomberg News. I mean, we’re also talking about the media here, Tom Robbins.
TOM ROBBINS: Yeah, he’s ever-present. I mean, you know, this is a man who named, you know, a television station, a radio station. And now he’s got BusinessWeek magazine. Maybe he’ll change that to Bloomberg BusinessWeek. We’ll see what happens.
I mean, his ability to be able to use his money, surely in effective ways—I mean, the fact that he was able to—I mean, some people—Corzine, who’s also a incredibly wealthy individual, was not able to get there. Bloomberg has used his money to be able to reach people that he knew—like Canada, like Calvin Butts, people who he knew were influential and that he could basically—I don’t know if they buy their support, but he could use it—as Calvin Butts said to a Bloomberg biographer earlier this year, it sure doesn’t hurt to be able to get that money.
AMY GOODMAN: And the unions’ closeness to Obama and not coming out for William Thompson, Juan?
JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, you had two of the biggest, most powerful unions in New York City, the teachers’ union and the SEIU 1199 union—both of them stayed out of the race, unusual for these powerful unions that are always the kingmakers in many of the political races. They stayed out of the races, which was, in effect, again, helpful to Mayor Bloomberg in his efforts.
So, when you look at that five percent margin, given the fact that the entire political establishment of New York, virtually all of the newspapers, dailies and weeklies, with the exception of the black-owned Amsterdam News and the Spanish-language El Diario, supported Bloomberg and that the major unions and the national Democratic Party basically turned its back on the race, it’s astonishing that it was so close.
AMY GOODMAN: And, of course, William Thompson would have been the second African American mayor of New York. We’re talking about now a 50,000-vote difference, Obama coming out for the former CEO of Goldman Sachs over and over, Jon Corzine, coming here repeatedly over the last weeks for different events, but not campaigning for William Thompson.
BO is nothing but a Political POS ... period.
Tonight it's On the Origin of Species, in preparation for Darwin Day. And no, my copy is not one of the delibrately disinformative ones that are being handed courtesy of Kirk Cameron. ;)
GNA! Hopefully tomorrow's a better day than this one...
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... oops sorry wrong day ...
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So it is claimed.
And I thought I was the only one that felt like killing after eating those things...
the brown acid?
kinda.
and asked for their "killer hashbrowns"...
Senate Dems flip off the Repugs and support their half-assed emissions bill, anyway. Cali's short on H1N1 flu virus vaccines, and the Wall Street execs get priority. An interesting theme is that it's private organizations being allowed to handle the distribution of the vaccine. What good's an "improved" economy, if employers use it as an excuse to force more hours on current employees, rather than hire new workers? Young voters didn't care about the races, and gay voters felt alienated by the lack of activism from Obama in Maine. Pay raises are considered "saved" jobs. Schumer finally speaks up about out-sourcing. Funny that he only cares when it's in regard to the stimulus...Senator Cockburn hates our troops.
It is often said that there aren't any real differences between the Democrats and the Republicans. I beg to differ, and a simple survey can illustrate my position.
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Your party has just been ushered into office with a mandate for the kind of change you promised and on which you campaigned. What do you do upon assuming office?
Democrats: In the name of bipartisanship, make as many concessions as possible to the opposition, even if it means giving them everything they want and undermining our entire agenda.
Republicans: Shut out all opposing voices in Congress and embark on the kinds of foreign wars and imperialism we derided in our campaign in order to line our already overstuffed pockets; clamp down on Constitutional protections in case the public begins to object.
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Your base has lost its enthusiasm and energy now that you have proven unable to deliver on your promises, while the base of your opposition has become energized as midterm elections approach. What do you do?
Democrats: Abandon our base, and try to appear as though we actually agree with much of the opposition in the hopes that enough of those who are currently energized will mistake us for the people they are planning to vote for.
Republicans: Ensure that our friends in the media will report everything as though the opposite is true, that our base is not only the energized one, but actually the vast majority of the public; rig voting machines.
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Your opponent has entered the ring with brass knuckles and other illegal weaponry, but the ref isn't calling him on it. What do you do?
Democrats: Insist on playing by the Marquess of Queensbury rules, hoping someone will give us credit for being the honorable ones as our teeth are knocked out of our heads.
Republicans: Cry foul in the most over-the-top histrionic fashion imaginable until the ref not only takes away the brass knuckles, but postpones the fight; shoot opponent in the back as he walks back to the locker room; plead preemptive self defense.
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Party leaders have just distributed talking points for the day. What do you do?
Democrats: Consider the merits and faults of each one thoroughly in order to present a nuanced, individual opinion to the media and constituents, even if it means muddling the party's unified message.
Republicans: Practice the syllables verbatim in a mirror enough times to be able to recite them while sleeping; repeat them verbatim on the chamber floor and on the media.
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Allegations of wrongdoing on your part have been leaked to the public, and are garnering considerable media attention. What do you do?
Democrats: Grovel and apologize regardless of whether we're guilty in order to nip the problem in the bud; resign if necessary.
Republicans: Kick and scream about liberal bias in the news, noting that we didn't do what we're accused of, even if we did and that even though we did it doesn't matter because God is on our side; conduct further opposition research to shift attention to the other party's wrongdoings; make stuff up if necessary.
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Hey- I've seen so many Conservadumb ads on this website... if I set it up so my computer automatically clicks on the ad and closes the site automatically over and over would the advertisers have to pay for that? Namely the jerks whose ads that keep telling me my campus is too liberal or if I want to get a copy of Palin's book or whatever? I would love to hit them in the pocketbook...
Today was the first day I noticed fly-out ads on this site. There already seems to be a lot of problems with the loading and running of C&L pages, but this is getting out of hand. the Jack in the Box commercial started playing three times before I could get to the next page.
Firefox + AdBlock Plus + Noscript = what ads?
Thanks miss kitty and fast feat. I should have figured that out long ago. I'm assuming what you mean by noscript is java script disabled.
Thanks again. Over advertising is why I quit TV.
with NoScript (Firefox) here at C&L, but a lot of stuff has been "leaking" through on other sites.
"Non-responsive" scripts have been the bane of my existence for the last couple of months, despite having most blocked via NoScript. No virus detection with Avira in months. But I've lost track of how many times I've had to simply turn the power off and reboot. Pissing me off!
And no Jack in the Box here in FL!
right before I do a Spybot search and destroy, and click on some of the ads, stay on the sites, to give this site money. I'll open in another tab, then do something else, because I heard somewhere you have to stay awhile for the referring site to be paid.
I'm wondering if Avira is insufficient? Also, what does AdBlock do that NoScript doesn't?
I just took 20 gigs of stuff, mostly porn, off my computer and it runs just as slow as before...
I use AVG, the free version, but if I have to reformat, or save up enough money for Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Full (I only want the most expensive one :P) I'll probably switch to Avast. I hear it's better, and it's piratey sounding.
I don't have massive amounts of pr0n on my computer, but then, I'm not a guy. Just puppies and kittens...
I've just been test driving avast! anti-virus after using Symantec for quite a while. It seems to load faster and be less of a resource hog. The free version can't schedule scans, but I do that myself anyway. Oh, and there's a slightly annoying voice that lets you know it's been updated. Over all I like it (yarr). C-Net likes it too.
I like that voice.
I put Avast in when I bought the computer about 6 months ago, and I have had ZERO problems. The tech guy at my school said it is best (cuz I have no idea whatsoever.) You can download a user guide from the net. It's free.
I second that on avast. Run AVG on my laptop. Both work good but I have had a ton of viruses lately. Malwarebytes seems to catch a completely different set of problems.
The internet is a dirty place.
As soon as I dumped it and installed Avira, it found ten viruses AVG couldn't find.
My concern is that Avira hasn't found any problems lately. I always get concerned that "everything's OK" when I'm sure the streets are no safer...
Maybe Avira's a double agent?
have a motive. Free installation, only $39.95 for an upgrade after you start having problems.
Comodo Internet Security package kicks butt. It only requires a couple of user preferred tweaks. It is rated #1.
Free for personal use. Get it here.
Jesus, I think if I had Norton + Vista, my I'd have no resources to go net trolling. Shiat. I had Norton on my xp box, and it was as about protective as a paper bag against a tsunami. I got really fast at backing up my files and reformatting, though.
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/
I do that and AdAware by Lavasoft. There's all sorts of shit that can slow your box down that ISN'T 20 gb of pr0n...
Make sure it's Lavasoft, because there's fakes out there. Bith are free. I used to like AdAware better, but now I think on a new system, I'd just go with Spybot S&D now. Totally free. AdAware has a free version, but it's like they hide it in a closet-the free link is always hard to find.
... then it started locking up on me - especially when updating. Switched recently to iObit 360 and have been happy. It's free and has even more of the Windows tools I liked to use with SBS&D, but I still miss the familiar format.
You're definitely right on the AV: I'm not missing Symantec at all.
There are so many things out there supposed to clean things up but wind up installing their own sh*t. I can't keep up with what's good and what installs malware. I did have some sort of program on my older laptop that conflicted with Symantec or Norton that I uninstalled it.
Thanks for the info.
I'm so reluctant to install any new programs. Vista will say that some of these programs aren't proven to be trusted. Not a direct quote.
You know what doesn't work on Vista? My HP printer program. Assholes.
a lot of programs don't work. You have to buy new equipment to be able to be up to date.
Newer than this Vista crap. In fact I got it because my old one didn't work. Turns out since this one didn't work either, I could have used the same crappy default Vista program I use to run the new one. This printer was supposed to work with Vista.
I hope I can get windows 7. I think it will work then.
of HP but have you gone to their site to see if there is a download for vista?
Yes and its called XP.
/snark
I called their 'help' desk? "really? It's supposed to work. Hmmm I don't know what to tell you. Just use the default program in vista. Bu-bye"
Vista came with my new computer (HP), but the tech guy at my school (my hero) said it is total crap and he put in Windows XP instead.
Can you still get XP on new devices?
I don't know shit. When I think I've got it figured out, they change everything. GNA!
I know a little, and sometimes that's more dangerous.
Later.
But if you have the right equipment ;) you can have Windows 7 and XP too.
Got any idea how to get rid of this 20meg POS I never use? I've tried uninstalling from "Add/Remove Programs" and from Disk clean-up, but all that happens is NOTHING or it updates it?!
A partitioned drive? Now you got me curious.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It...
The download thing-you know the SP2 nightmare, hours to download on a fast connection...I never did it...makes this scary, but the reviews are all happy happy, joy joy.
I think the school buys a contract for multiple computers. He made me a pirated disc from his resources??
I just know he put it in, along with about 20 other things (free). Hey, it's Asia. Pirating is a way of life here.
I didn't ask a lot of questions. I know he knows his stuff.
they are on the up and up. I gave to link because there are ones with similar names that do install malware. I just check cnet and they aren't wild about it; they like Ad-Aware better. But if you aren't running a good anti malware program, taking all that porn out isn't going to speed you up. P.S 3 guesses where it all came from, and the first 2 don't count...:)
You seem to know some things in this department. If I have Avast installed, should I install Spybot too?
I know I probably will. I don't know THAT much. I have a pretty narrow scope, based on what I've done. You could read about it here:
http://download.cnet.com/Spybot-Search-amp-De...
I trust cnet reviews, they aren't as fond of it as I am, but about 11,000 readers who weighed in like it better than the editors do.
I also recommend Ad-Aware, which cnet likes better than Spy Bot:
http://download.cnet.com/Ad-Aware-Free-Anti-M...
Avast is your anti-virus. You probably also want the Spybot S&D for malware. It catches stuff that isn't necessarily harmful (like spyware) but that you want to get rid of anyway.
OK. Thanks. Better do the Spybot thing.
I like their little blurb ob their site. Can we make the Spybot people president?
Here:
... the program was dedicated to the most perfect girl in the world. Or something like that. I think it was hidden in the licensing agreement.
Thanks. I read the Spybot tutorial this afternoon, and was considering it. I just worry about bunging up my system because I know almost nothing. I'll check out the links you have provided.
of xp?
Cut a new disk using nLite freeware, it slipstreams sp2 onto your installation disk so it will recognize larger hard drives.
The leader of the minority party in the House does not know the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
medium-cherry wood stain...
harr harr tee hee :)
You back home? How are things?
Things are OK. I couldn't swing the work visa within the 90-day Schengen Zone limit. The Czech Republic has added more red tape to the process, yet again, since joining the E.U. So, it was either leave or overstay my (tourist) visa, which authorities don't take kindly to (especially in the post 9/11 world)!!!! I almost did it, but that doesn't count.
I did have a magical, if at times stressful, three months in Prague. I found a job and was working (shhh... illegal). I also the coolest little flat right in the centre of the old town, at the Charles Bridge.
I'm back in Seoul. I'm back in my old apartment with my partner, and he is happy. (I'm not unhappy, but it isn't Prague.) I'm unemployed too, but that's not a problem for me here. Lots of jobs.
I'm thinking about going to Thailand before I take a new job.
We only live once. What the hell. Why not?
Well, at least someone's got employment opportunities!
BTW, how many languages do you speak?
One. I can navigate my way around town in Korean, but not have a conversation. I understand more than I can speak. (Korean is extremely complicated.) I can read and write it.
Warning to newbies: The golden era of ESL teaching is OVER!!! It was great back when I got into it. It was so free and easy, but more and more it's going "professional" with red tape, regualtions, need for credentials, and awkward and frustrating visa applications (in the post 9/11 world.)
It's still OK, but the freewheeling fun days are gone and it's all about profits now.
I have opportunities because of my vast experience here in the ROK. And I know the system well.
...and stop electing capitalist pigs?
a Boner was some kind of a prick.
My guess is NEVER. They've been capitalist pigs all my life.
No discussion on Prejean's court case ending sex tape?
No sex tape?
I heard its pretty dirty.
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If ms prejean's been as busy as people say she's been, it might add up to 60 gigs
The article on prejean
"It was very graphic," Richie tells E! News, "and our lawyers wouldn't let us put it on the site."
from thedirty.com
Hope it doesn't involve a cup.
drift.
She's being a bad little evangelical, masturbation's a selfish act that doesn't lead to children!!1 Or so we have been taught...
And isn't that one of the complaints evangelicals have about gay couples...that their relationships don't lead to natural children?
Hypocrite, thy name is Carrie!
Anyone with a life-threatening ailment wanna wait six months to four years to be covered by public or private insurance, respectively? The jobs which are out there don't have enough people who are qualified for 'em. It's funny that the LAPD has time to go after the poor and/or minorities, but it's behind on investigating rapes. Unemployment goes global. Mont Blanc loses 18 inches of snow.
and everyone is pushing to pass this health care bill that is basically going to be a demanded tax on the middle class and a fine if you dont pay it. a fine NOW. later to be ammended im certain requiring non payers to serve jail time to scare the public into compliance.
there are so many holes in this health plan im afraid to see it pass. even more im afraid to see all the democrats pushing for it and all the republicans against it. its like no one cares if it will work or not. its all of us against all of them !! and thats all that matters.
Facist US
The people are not qualified is total bullshit!
It's just another way for the criminals who ruined our country to blame the victims. Nearly everyone in my family is unemployed. These are people in their 40's and 50's with college degrees and very successful careers until Bush was elected. Suddenly they are not qualified? Bullshit!
Shame on you for even posting that crap.
of receiving more Govt. welfare, they say they're trying to hire but aren't really, to get more tax breaks and/or stimulii
Looks like he's got the piles.
I just cannot stand and tell someone out right lies! I have never met a republican that could tell the truth. Or except it when told the truth. It is as though they have been kept isolated there entire life in a room where they were never allowed to see the truth.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
follows Adolfs country back in the 30's we will all be good little bund'es in future generations. We're already a semi-morphed take off of Benito's country.
God bless Boner and his reading of the Constipation...or whatever he was reading.
..............is it just my cable or does everyone notice how many more movies, 'documenteries', etc. they are showing on WWII? Many, if not most look like AIPAC propaganda with the theme, 'Poor, poor, poor, poor Jews, they went thru so much.....blah, blah, blah' 'Can't possibly blame them, the whole world needs to feel guilty of a crime that is more than 70yrs. old´ ...........blah,blah,blah´ With the current track record that BLOODYISRAEL has, I would like to just add that that was then and this is now. I do personally admire the courage of those people 70yrs ago, when I was a big, big, supporter of Israel until I lived these last 50yrs. and saw what it has become, a FACIST,warmongering, apartide, vicious, predatory, whore.
Schindler's List again recently, it seems the ones that went through it and survived aren't the ones running things today over here or there, they have no clue evidently. The grand kids turned out to be little racist assholes.
Yeh, I liked Shindler's List and still admire the courage, humanity, strength, etc. of those people and what those brave people went thru and survived! But, after that generation......................where did all the whores come from trying to ride on the tails of those brave people? Running propaganda trying to capitolize on the horror of WWII pushing predation, and FACISM for EMPIRE FOR BLOODYISRAEL. It's just as appalling as one of the PUKIES, Bloomberg comes to mind, still propagandizing 9/11.
I can't watch another Holocaust movie. At one time they were interesting. Now I'm just sick to death of the Holocaust at every turn. Yes it was terrible, we all know. Telling me 150,000 times doesn't change a thing, it just turns me OFF.
Will we be watching Holocaust movies in 2100?? (Yup.)
Sorry your move didn't work out. To me, it seems that this whole paperwork thingie is made to squeeze out the free wheelers like you and me. Happily I moved before Booooosh, long enough so that there was still space to move in. Had a bad feeling abt. your move before you left. Seems like Korea worked well for you. Glad you're back where you belong. Bienviendo/welcome.
Totally sick and totally turned OFF to AIPAC and anything vaguely similiar except for J Street, the liberal Jewish counter balance to AIPAC(Fux Snooze with yamulka)
Jon Stewart does the Teabagger's favorite nutbag.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/jon-...
Signs from the Crazy Conservative White People's March.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/05/the-...
Why does a person spend 105 million to get a job that pays 250 thousand? Have you never ask yourself what is wrong with that?
It shows that our system has been hijacked, stolen, perverted, and almost destroyed.
It shows that all the people that run for office are not there being public servants! But public criminals.
I this we need some vigilante justice. We need to clean out washington. Break the two party system. Even if it means burning washington to the ground to get it done.
per CNN. It wasn't me...
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