Progressive Senator Doctor Zaius prepares to vote for the health bill thingy. Open Thread below...
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work for the insurance companies; they are about to reach-up our asses with government sanction.
Bend over!
And have a lovely weekend.
let's hope when the two bills are merged
that this royal fucking the senate is giving
the middle and poor classes in the USA is
resolved.......being required to buy unregulated
health insurance without any hope of competition
is criminal and should be unconstitutional because
it is forcing US citizens to buy from a monopoly.
sums it up beautifully. Any bill can be improved later. Another failure to pass anything will probably delay HCR until the Republicans regain the house or the senate at which point nothing will be accomplished.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Any bill is good bill. Please support the bill so republicans are defeated and democrats are victorious.
I mean, the democrats must be acting in our best interests, right?
This sis about political face more than health care reform. Please help the democrats save their ugly face.
any bill is good. I said any bill can be improved later. This bill has enough in it to make it worthy of a presidential signature.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
No it is not. You have several key reliable democrats saying it is crap and needs to die. It is a give away to the insurance companies which cannot be taken back. It stands to criminalize a huge class of Americans, most who are already saying screw the bill, fine us if you dare.
evidently you don't have a vigina
with the menfolk who don't realize that allowing women to buy insurance with abortion coverage if that's what they prefer is not some insignificant little matter...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Curtilingus cares about viginas.
Did you named yours?
Actually, don't tell. Cba.
Wodan Heerst
sticking your nose into other peoples viginas? Wait, don't answer that.
Where is for the vice squad to figure out ron. The important thing is, I get off.
you don't have to answer that.
i sure like to get close and personal.
Wodan Heerst
How much later? Another 40 years?
Whatever they end up passing, we'll be stuck with it a long time so I would prefer we fight for what we want now.
at what both social security and medicare started as and what they've become then the proper strategy becomes obvious. Most industrialized countries achieved universal health care before allowing private insurance companies to become monstrous and powerful entrenched interests. Sadly the US did not. If you think there will ever be the political will or the popular support to deal those interests a fatal blow with a single bill you are dreaming. The dragon will have to be slain piecemeal, one limb at a time.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
medicare part d?
when is that going to be revisited?
when they put the same provision of high prices and non-negotiability into the h/c bill, do you really have any expectation that they will revisit medicare part d?
Some stuff you can't make up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBaZHPkOY68
far left loon >.<
they seem to have grasped the concept of volley fire. The marksmanship could use a little work though.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
What? It's a snowball fight.
[edit: more video in now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAgQKJuriIo&fe... ]
far left loon >.<
Monday I'm supposed to be going to my new mental health clinic to get a fresh screening and talk to my new pdoc. I just hope it works out because the other day I got a letter from Medicare saying that after having cancelled my Medicaid, now the state of California doesn't want to cover my Medicare premiums... Ahnold! *sigh*
Then, when I get home, I have to get on the horn and make arrangements for myself and my uninsured maternal unit to get swine flu vaccinated. In her case, I have to see if that's even prudent to do since she hasn't been able to see a doctor in years. But she is concerned about swine flu, so I promised I'd see if she could get vaccinated and then go be moral support since she's hated shots since childhood...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Tell her that it's not like the Spanish flu or the bubonic plague. relax and have a drink and a laugh ;)
Wodan Heerst
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Don't try to tell her that, just doo eet! And if she doesn't buy it, have her a drink to make her forget about the thing that might kill her.
If we have to think about the things that might kill us we shouldn't drive, breath, get outside or....er riding a bike. (that's dangerous in some cities though :) )
Wodan Heerst
Matthews' part when he attacked the Netroots and basically said the Netroots weren't "grown-up Democrats?"
I ask because, I think, because besides Tweety's being an establishment lackey, since the Netroots are often associate with 20 and 30 somethings, he was turning up his nose at that too?
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
that the younger voters actually want SOMETHING done while the fossils in office want to keep things business as usual?
Looks we won't see real change until those cowards are replaced.
NOBODY 2012
... by John Emerson at OpenLeft entitled: Stupid Voters, Pt. 2
He examines the oft heard meme that "people vote Republican because they are stupid." His analysis might not be what you expect, but it is certainly insightful and well thought out.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Thank you for the link but I beg to differ somewhat. The piece is narrow in outlook and he fails to follow his own analysis:
Alice: Small farmers have been displaced dramatically and tragically. Workers are no longer in manufacturing but the working class still makes up over 60% of the population. I define class according to the power to define ones own work. Not by income, although there is something of a relationship, or by education, though again there is a parallel. The working class has no power to define its work, the middle class (Doctors, Lawyers, middle managers) has some, the upper class has considerable power to define their work, which is mostly making money with their money, IE Capitalism.
The cataclysm of the Great Depression forced FDR very much to the left, which is not precisely where he started. John Maynard Keynes wrote to FDR encouraging government spending not because he thought Marx was wrong in predicting the fall of capitalism, but that he was right.
The left, as in socialist, did not undertake a revolution but they did pull FDR towards their point of view, the Wagner act was a major step forward.
There has since been an unrelenting push back which really got a leg up with the Republican congress of 1947. The National Security Act and the Taft Harley Act were two of their gems.
The NSA set the stage for the perpetual war machine and Taft Hartley through the 'right to work' provisions and the ban of secondary boycotts guaranteed a future of ever weakening labor.
But even before that the Big Money had not ceased their propaganda, and since then the social bearing of the Democrats has been whittled away until they again were captured by big money, the DLC is the great agent of that.
So my point in short, he observes the coalescence of the duopoly up through 1932. He fails to see that it has been thoroughly restored.
The Republicans and Democrats are again two heads of the same snake. The melodrama of the push and shove between them and its observance is what is trite.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
All it does is force uninsured Americans to get insurance. People who already have insurance are going to get reamed the same they always have if not worse.
Insurance stocks went up (mysteriously). Wonder why?
far left loon >.<
hit the table for "reform" earlier this year. After their stocks crashed last fall with everyone else.
Leave it up to the conservadems to fuck up HCR so badly, that people will hate them for the piece of shit they are about to foist on them.
The only reason for any of this shit, is that some morons in the Senate thought it would be a great idea to require 60 votes to govern. It is the ultimate con in the perpetuation of minority tyrrany, and big money corporate interests.
As if the Senate wasn't fucked up enough with its equal representation from podung red states with about 100 redneck inhabitants; now we have to get 60 votes to even discuss progress. This filibuster bullshit needs to be filibustered. Where would Americans be today if this asinine cloture rule was always in use?
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
It takes only 67 votes to change that 60 vote rule.
Could be worse!
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
the latest Dean basher
"Real reform would create competition in insurance markets. The Senate bill does precisely that by establishing insurance exchanges that will create competition for enrollees, and by requiring that all insurers provide standardized information to consumers so that they can comparison shop for the best insurance product available at the most affordable price."
Pick whichever tentacle you want; it's still the same octopus.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Communist ;)
(red scare)
Wodan Heerst
Single payer, universal health care - off the table
Public Option (non-profit) - off the table
Buy into Medicare - off the table
Lower enrollment age into Medicare - nope
Re-importation of lower price medicine - Dems voted no
Negotiate drug pricing - no
Regulatory control over doctor/hospital fees - nope
Preventive care - nope
Clean water - no, one third of drinking water is health hazard
Regulation of contaminated food. medicine, and tainted products from China - no
"Clean water - no, one third of drinking water is health hazard"
While the other things you said are serious at it's own i think this one really is one of the most important things in live.
I mean, WTF!!!! Clean water is one of the thing we should get for granted.
WTF, is America a 3rd world country? Looks like it.
Wodan Heerst
New improved health insurance.©
Now with fines!
. .
according to axelrod they're just fees.
that term sounds a lot cheaper doesn't it?
to stay out of jail, you STILL won't have any health insurance.
UNLESS YOU DECIDE TO JUST GO TO JAIL!!
THEN YOU HAVE FULL COVERAGE INCLUDING EYES AND DENTAL AND THREE SQUARES A DAY.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
ho's, scum
they suck our blood,
then they sell us sum.
- Jacovs and Beancounters -
...stalking and pruning season approaches upon continuing broaches of the golden rule...
The GOP Wanted Private Insurance To Control Healthcare and Not the Government – Done
The GOP Said America’s Private Health Insurance is best in the World and thus should not be tampered with. It has not been tampered with at all. – Done
Republicans wanted private insurance to Cross State Lines – Done
Republicans did not want any type of single payer – Done
Republicans did not want the Public Option – Done
Republicans did not want any Medicare expansion or based on age – Done
The Republicans WON!!!!!
The Liberals/Progressives LOST AND LOST AND LOST THANKS TO RAHM EMANUEL, EZEKIEL EMANUEL AND BARACK OBAMA AND HIS MINIONS IN THE DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED HOUSE AND SENATE!!!!
WHO ELESE WON? HMMM – The Private Health Insurance Industry WON TOO!!!!!!!!
They get 30-40 Million New Customers Mandated to Buy this health insurance or Face Fines, Penalties and even possible Jail Time if such Insurance is not bought.
Americans will now be mandated to buy —- Private Health Care Insurance and called the Individual Mandate. Yes, the Obama administration and governments in the future will Make you by Force and Law to buy Private Insurance but NOT BIG Government-Led Health Care.
FEEL GOOD ABOUT OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS TONIGHT? GONNA KEEP VOTING FOR THESE SCOUNDRELS CALLED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY? THESE DEMS STILL DESERVE YOUR VOTE AND LOYALTY AND SUPPORT?
Fester. I'm gonna go out and elec sum gude ole boy republikuns.
Lurch to the right Addams site more...
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P2B?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
5...urrrr
:}
good to see!
Some stuff you can't make up!
CoIntUS
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*snap snap*
NOBODY 2012
Yes, but as I'm told, we'll never get the chance to appease and capitulate to the Repubs and Blue Dogs ever again on this, so it's necessary to swallow the bitter pill now.
Sunday, December 20, 2009 - "Sunday News Shows" with many verbal b.j.'s to one another and then of course many, many phonies to boot who are out touch. These are the yahoos you can waste your time listening to Sunday morning:
CBS’ "Face The Nation"with Bob Schieffer Interviews
Senators Lamar Alexander (R-TN), Olympia Snowe (R-ME), Mary Landrieu (D-LA) and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).
NBC's "Meet the Press" with David Gregory Interviews
David Axelrod - White House Senior Adviser
Dr. Howard Dean - Fmr. Chair, Democratic National Committee
2004 Democratic Presidential Candidate - Fmr. (D) Gov. of Vermont
Joe Scarborough - Host, MSNBC's "Morning Joe"
Markos Moulitsas - Founder and Publisher, DailyKos.com
Ed Gillespie - Fmr. Chair, Republican National Committee
Tavis Smiley - Host, PBS's Tavis Smiley & PRI's "Tavis Smiley Show"
ABC’s 'This Week' with George Stephanopoulos Interviews
President's senior advisor David Axelrod
Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Il., and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.
'FNS' with Chris Wallace Interviews
Sens. John McCain, R-AZ, Kent Conrad, D-ND, & Amy Klobuchar, D-MN
to hear what Markos has to say.
Thanks for the heads up WizardLeft1.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Roger Ebert's favorite movies of 2009
Considering all the movies I watched this year I was suprised I'd only seen one, and that was "Knowing" terrible movie IMO but the rest of the list looks great.
I have not even see one on the list. But they all sound like shite tbh. Not even worth downloading.
Wodan Heerst
Cohen brothers a serious man is supposed to be pretty good. heard great things about ingloriuos bastards. Did you see the indie list? Some of those might be worth researching on IMDB for second opinions and downloading.
I admit, i did not look at the list.
"indie" list, srsly?
Wodan Heerst
Independent movies. A viable alternative to Hollywood trash. Not indie as in music.
Ah, like that.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114787/
Underground.
Great movie!
(i hope you like sub titles :p )
Wodan Heerst
That's funny I was thinking of a couple to recommend to you. This is a Russian I saw this year and it was an intense, epic movie. Sean Penn noticed it at a film festival many years ago and helped it gain some notoriety.
Come and See
Another one that takes place in Serbia during the recent war in the 90's is called No Man's Land. This was an incredible movie, exceptional acting with no one we know and one of the best, most memorable endings I've ever seen in a movie.
Haven't seen that one but i heard about it. Going to be on my list.
Wodan Heerst
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/842...
"Copenhagen climate deal meets qualified UN welcome "
Wodan Heerst
What infuriated me most about the Copenhagen Conference was the attitude by many that Global Warming can be prevented.
People are already losing their livelihoods to global warming.
People are already losing their homes to rising sea waters.
Global warming is already here.
The opportunity to prevent it has passed.
From here on out we must focus on how to adapt to it.
Cutting back emissions and limiting population growth are still very important, and are part of the solution. But we're already over the brink.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
while we do not want the lead based toys i really think that we should adopt the Chinese one kid policy. But as i do not want to sound like a a-hole i like to limit it at two kids :p
Wodan Heerst
I call BS. you're probably in a polar bear suit at a starbucks as you typed that. :P
1. noone is losing their livelihoods due to AGW. Sure, annual flood are raping coastal lines across the planet... as they do... ANNUALLY.
2. Sea levels are not rising. (lie, or ignorance, pick your weapon.)
3. BS - it's getting colder.
4. does not even apply.
5. Adapt to focussing on REAL polution, plastics in the oceans, mercury in the water, dying reefs... you know, things REAL enviromentalists are concerned with.
Al Gore, UN IPCC in the same sentence looking out for our well being. DOES. NOT. WORK.
Face it, you're being lied to.
Bend over folks . They failed , plain and simple but are desperate to pass ANYTHING just so that they can tell us they succeeded and passed healthcare reform .What a surprise , Pharma and the Insurance Industry made out like bandits and we the people get screwed royal ( again ) , this is their healthcare reform . Change we can believe in ? Right . At this point I don't know what to make of Obama , I really don't . Lately I've been telling myself not to blame him personally , cut him slack , he's working hard and trying , gotta realize it's politics and he has to play the game , he's facing corruption , sabotage and treason ... opposition at every turn and doesn't have the power , the backing necessary to do what he wants / as he wants , but man , it's getting real hard to keep giving him a pass . For one thing , the deal he cut with Pharma ? WTF ?
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
As frustrated as the base of the Democratic Party may be in this late stage of the health care reform battle, few have reflected on the force behind every legislative battle this year: Rahm Emanuel.
In a blunt remark to the Wall Street Journal, the White House Chief of Staff tipped his hand on how he planned to get 60 votes in the Senate: bring left-wing Democrats on board early to generate enthusiasm, then turn on them in the end game to woo conservatives.
In other words: Get 'em, then gut 'em.
Responding as to whether or not the White House was concerned about "noise" from liberals, (i.e., threats that liberals will "kill" rather than vote for a health care bill that includes a mandate, but no public option), Emanuel made two very telling statements.
First, Emanuel gestured to the vote tally by saying,"There are no liberals left to get." In other words: liberal Democrats committed to supporting the White House early in the game, such that Emanuel has long since given up in interested in the concerns of those who support left-wing Democrats.
Second, and in jarring contrast to his first statement in the Wall Street Journal interview, Emanuel then blamed liberal Democrats for every failure to pass a health care bill in the past, "Every time they've gotten close to the deal, they've passed up the opportunity and chosen to walk away from a particular [sic] where they've lost the forest for the trees." By referring to the liberal Democrats as "they," Emanuel makes it clear that to bring on conservative Democrats in the Senate, he is willing to split the party into two sides: those who are working to pass a health care bill, and those with a long record of blocking a bill--us and them.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Obama supported LIEberman over Lamont in Conn.
Obama went to copenhagen with a plan for corporate tax breaks.
If someone shows you who they are, believe them!
Some stuff you can't make up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN3uPrJR7IY&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hByy-rVnGcY
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Terrible ys, you just made me jump of a bridge to escape that horrible sound!
Thanks a lot! :s
Wodan Heerst
Here are some of my faves, making you feel any better?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiQt1gj1DFQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nateDeHd44w
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
FFS, why do you think that is going to make me feel better?
That just made me addicted to crack, coke, acid and PCP at the same time.
Wodan Heerst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr28JGnQHbY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kQ5xJAJFw
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
--but with the major differences between the two bills--and with all this back and forth about what's in and what's out--what finally goes into deciding what's in and what's out and what new stuff can be added in or old stuff taken out when the two bills are "merged"? Some of the stuff seems a little incompatible.
left on this planet if my health holds up that long and I don't succumb to some accident. I may or may not see the complete crumbling of this nation, but its started, its started since St. Ronnie got his hold of the wheel. The ship has been off course since.
Off course that is for the regular folks. Some sort of Armageddonian style global hell doesn't seem too far out to consider actually.
I hope my grandkids are prepared and I hope I don't end up attempting to keep up with a refugee line when I'm eighty.
under Noxin. He ignited the fires of hate.
Reagan stoked them.
Bush2 poured kerosine on them.
Obama is warming his hands with the fires as (R)ahm pumps the bellows.
Some stuff you can't make up!
controls what percentage of the wealth?
Hi, C, btw :)
Power in America
Wealth, Income, and Power
by G. William Domhoff
September 2005 (updated October 2009)
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/pow...
Some stuff you can't make up!
Thank you for the informative link on wealth and income distribution
And the one below - - - here
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
swirling around seem to be taken very seriously. I choose to wait and see if there is any fact based ones. We all know how the MSM and the neocons work.
into a neoMSMcon swirly
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?ter...
they must be republikuns too.
for any contard to be swirly'd pre-Cephalanalectomy
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?ter...
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could be and are swirlers.
post-Cephalanalectomized have been known to voluntarily self-swirl to clean the last vestiges of concrap out of their aural/cranial cavities and achieve full liberalizattitudinationhood....
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to see if you were the real P2B. welcome back friend.
with your test.
A test tickle like that takes balls when you're dealing with nutz on blogs. We'll have to be gentle, men, or the sm will sac us egg sackly like before-skinning us like a bris kit.... 'dyou wish me to continue?
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he richest 1% of adults owned 40% of the world’s total assets in the year 2000. The richest 10% of adults accounted for 85% of total assets. The bottom half of the world adult population owned 1% of global wealth. (Source: World Institute for Development Economics Research, The World Distribution of Household Wealth, 2006).
"There were an estimated 7.7 million millionaires in the world at the end of 2003, half a million more than at the end of 2002, as stock markets and economic growth picked up and the rich took more risks with their cash.These wealthy individuals saw their riches increase by 7.7 percent to $28.8 trillion in 2003, recovering to levels seen before the global recession took hold in 2001, according to a survey on Tuesday from U.S. investment bank Merrill Lynch and technology consultancy Capgemini. And the rich are set to get richer, with their wealth forecast to grow by seven percent a year and to exceed $40.7 trillion by 2008, the survey predicted... The survey also highlighted a small, but fast-growing global group of 70,000 super rich individuals with more than $30 million in financial assets. It found that this group was growing at a faster pace than those in the $1 million-plus bracket." (World's richest worth $29 trillion in 2003; Survey: Wealthy now back at level before dot-com bust. MSNBC.com, June 15, 2004,)
Very Richest's Share of Income Grew Even Bigger, New York Times, June 26, 2003
In the late 1970s, the top one percent of the US population held 13 percent of the wealth; in 1995 it held 38 percent. (Levy, Frank. The New Dollars and Dreams ).
In 1998 the top 1 percent of the population owned 38 percent of the wealth, the top 5 percent owned over 60 percent (source: www.inequality.org/fatcsfr.html).
The top ten percent of the U.S. population owns 81.8 percent of the real estate, 81.2 percent of the stock, and 88 percent of the bonds. (Federal Reserve Bank data in Left Business Observer, No. 72, Apr. 3, 1996, p. 5).
One percent of the U.S. population owns sixty percent of the stock and forty percent of the total wealth. (Hawken, Paul, The Ecology of Commerce: A Declaration of Sustainability. New York: HarperBusiness, 1993).
The top one percent of U.S. households owned 42 percent of all stock in 1997...
The top ten percent of households owned 82 percent of all stock-market wealth...
Only 27 percent of households held more than $10,000 in stock in 1997...
57 percent of Americans didn't own any stock at all...
The top fifth of households saw their income rise 43 percent between 1977 and 1999, while the bottom fifth saw their income fall 9 percent....
Since 1973, every group in society except the top 20 percent has seen its share of the national income decline, with the bottom 20 percent losing the most. They have just 3.6 percent of national income, down from 4.4 percent a quarter century ago.
Indeed, the top fifth now makes more than the rest of the nation combined...
Rebecca Blank, who recently left the President's Council of Economic Advisors, pointed out, ‘We've gone back to levels of income and wealth inequality that this country hasn't seen since the teens and 1920s.’" (Source: Merrill Goozner, Crash of '99?, Salon.com, Oct. 1, 1999).
The top one percent of Americans receive more income than the bottom 40 percent. (Korten, David. When Corporations Rule the World, p. 108).
When he was worth $40 billion, Microsoft chairman Bill Gates was worth more than the bottom 110 million Americans (the bottom 40 percent of the population). By 1998, Gates was worth $59 billion; a year later, he was worth $85 billion. Gates is twice as wealthy as the second richest American, Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen (worth $40 billion). (Source: open letter from Ralph Nader (December 1998), citing Edward Wolff of New York University, whose calculations included home equity, pensions and mutual funds, but excluded personal cars, based on Gates' then-current net worth of $40 billion).
In 1995, 358 billionaires were worth $760 billion, the same as the poorest 20 percent of the world’s people. (Korten, David. When Corporations Rule the World, p. 83)
Some stuff you can't make up!
...and what percentage of that wealthy wealth is controlled by "conservatives", would you imagine (or know, if you even could)?
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if not impossible to find...and it's getting late. My point is, do you think Obama knows he's essentially up against all the money-power, and realizes he has to play tri-level chess when most of us can only see the board on the bottom?
Gotta go, will checker back AM...
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I'm getting sick of this 3 dimensional chess bs. If Obama is playing chess he has put himself in a checkmate or loose your queen position. If the health care bill passes the independents and left will leave. If it doesn't pass the independents and left will leave. He has manuvered himself into a no win situation. In my opinion this is not the play of a chess master.
to start the day...
No need to check his mate, M's not going anywhere. Perhaps if he threatens to loose his queen on hc and free her from diplomatic constraints, the wrongright will drown in their own Hillaryhate salivations and drive the Left Indies to shore up his base for smooth sailing from 10 to 12 nots. Perhaps not the play of a chess master, but a master baiter...
One has to admire the bold and brutally subtle creativity of the strategy implicit in your analysis....
-"I never met a man I didn't like." - Will Rodgers
-"I never metaphor I didn't like." - 2b
Chess chastened (chessend?), I now retire from the field of anal-ogy, to thread again another day...
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generosity is in inverse proportion to wealth, so damn few
Some stuff you can't make up!
not at home so if I don't get anotther chance, enjoy the holidays,
turn out the lights, or ken lay around until your appeal is exhausted...
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Gn Ron.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx7KjOyEv8I
Wodan Heerst
If Medicare works for over 65 why the heck won't it work for younger healthier people even better? They have longer to pay into it and less chance of needing to collect!
someone please help me figure out why this doesn't make sense.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Medicare is a pay as you go system as is Social Security.
Medicare and Social Security taxes collected today pay for recipients today (when there is a surplus it goes to the trust fund).
Medicare is a single payer system funded by taxes on the entire population. Part A is hospitalization available to everyone at 65, Part B is outpatient and optional with a subsidized $100 a month premium.
The proposal for the the 55-65 crowd, now shot down, would have been for an actual cost buy in. It would be more than $100 a month, but it would not include 30% overhead for the for-profit insurance parasites.
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But since the republicans have been in control or have been a majority for so many years it is about like living on the planet of the apes.
You have to admit most republicans would be lucky to have as much intellectual capabilities as a monkey let alone an ape!
IN the last eight years all I have witnessed any republican doing is flinging crap and spouting bullshit.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness that is killing America!
WE need to rid ourselves of this stinking festering sespool of willfully ignorant salavating fools! The only question is how?
At this point I don't care if we do it threw the ballot box or the bullit box but we have to do something!
Then get these cowards out of office. Clearly, Barack does not want to be re-elected.
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We need to Kill The Bill. But we also need to work to eject the Corporatist Democrats out of Office, in the House & Senate in 2010 and then again Including Obama in 2012 -- even if it means Risking a Return of Rethuglicans for one or two election cycles. No money for Corporatist Democrats and No votes for Corporatist Democrats -- support only liberal progressives, be they Democrat or Green or Socialist or whatever else (Independent?).
It is time for some serious payback, and finally looking out for Our Interests ...
When I voted for Obama in 2008, I took it as a matter of faith and fact that a former Professor of Constitutional Law would, upon taking his oath of office, actually support the rule of law and redress the multitude of grievances against the misadministration of the Dubya regime. Instead, I find that I have helped to elect a new President who has no more interest in the rule of law or of upholding the interests of "we the people" than his predecessor.
Eleven months into the Obama administration, it is now abundantly clear that instead of electing one who honors the US Constitution, we have placed yet another viper into the lap of Liberty, who uses his Constitutional knowledge to further corrupt those ideals, to enhance his and his cronies wealth and power. Business as usual is not what i voted for - I voted for change, including major changes from the Dubya regime. The longer those same policies persist, the more frustrated and disenchanted I become at all things Democratic.
Whatever short-term, and largely ephemeral, gains that the Corporatist Democrats that now control the Democratic Party accrue, they risk, nay guarantee, the loss of the Democratic Party's liberal populist base; Just as we are seeing the self-destructive nature of the purification of the Republican Party, we are seeing the very same nature in the Democratic Party. The entire gamut of Third Parties are waiting in the wings for the opportunity to gain electoral power.
A welcome intervention, as far as I am concerned ...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
In the television series, Councillor Zaius serves as a government official, with authority over all the humans in his district.
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