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Earthrise over the Moon first filmed 41 years ago this week.

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Executive Producer of The Professional Left Podcast. On staff at Crooks and Liars since 2007. Master's degree from Harvard. Happy wife of Driftglass. Mother of three geniuses. Obsessive knitter. Blogs at http://bgalrstate.blogspot.com. .
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Mugsy's picture

I was too young to remember the events of Apollo 13 as they unfurled, but when I saw the movie a few years back, the audience actually stood up and cheered when the astronauts made it back... and that was just the movie.

If anyone has footage of people's reaction back in (was it 1971?) when the actual event took place, it would be amazing to see.

Today, I hear talk about ending "manned" space flight and the replacement for the Shuttle going back to using "splashdowns" for re-entry... which seems like a GIANT step BACKWARDS. :(


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Liberalicious's picture

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(spacecraft)

Manned space travel is not ending...they've just gotten spooked over the fact that there's no way to survive a shuttle accident. Sadly, science fiction gives a VERY erroneous view of what true space travel (getting there and back) actually requires.

because there wouldn't be anything very exciting about real space travel. Sit in a can for days or weeks to get to the moon or mars and collect rocks. That would be a blockbuster. And of course in the real world interstellar travel would be VERY different than science fiction since it will take centuries to make a round trip to most places, even with the best technology that is theoretically possible.

Alerta_Alerta's picture

A few years back? Isn't that movie a lot older than that?


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Mugsy's picture

...seems like only five years ago to me. :)


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MGA1619's picture

I've always wondered who had the brilliant idea of putting the launch facilities in Florida. Um, they do get some pretty bad weather there don't they? Wouldn't a better place have been New Mexico,Arizona or the Nevada desert? The number of cancellations because of weather would be very much reduced I'd imagine. Am I missing anything? Anybody got any good reasons why that wouldn't be feasible?

Timjoebillybob's picture

because from FL they can launch over the ocean, so the boosters can land in the ocean rather than on land, which greatly reduces the chances of them landing on lets say a house. Same goes for if something goes wrong they can splashdown in the ocean.

Mugsy's picture

Only partially true.

The primary reason for launching from Florida is that it is in the South, closer to the equator, making it easier to reach orbit (you will notice most launch pads are close to the equator. The ESA launches from Africa (iirc).


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Timjoebillybob's picture
Yep

that is also a large part of it.

Can O Whoopass's picture

Reagan's Amish scientists set the space program back 100 years.

ron's picture

Whasamatter, no fucking oil?

Liberalicious's picture

over resources in space...the key element would be water, not oil.

I'm sure we'll be doing that once we all get comfortable with battling it out throughout the solar system.

MikeD's picture

worth going to war for. It costs something like $50K to get a pound of anything into space, so the moon could be made of gold and with current technology it still wouldn't be worth mining. All the talk about high tech mining in space is just wishful thinking based on speculation to support the aerospace industry. Space mining is to aerospace what clean coal is to the coal industry.

Liberalicious's picture

It's probably best to go by car, bus, train, or ship from now on:

New Travel Restrictions because of some asshat semi-terrorist.

Evet's picture

when you could leave 30 minutes before departure, get dropped off out front the terminal, walk in and be on the plane in 10 minutes . . . those days are gone.

MikeD's picture

no free champaigne in first class anymore

MGA1619's picture

How long until they physically tie the passengers to the seats or forcibly drug them into a stupor? Maybe wrap every passenger in Saran Wrap till the plane lands. The options are almost limitless.

Alerta_Alerta's picture

free drugs? Hmmm, i need to fly some more :) But joking aside, trains and busses got bombed as well.


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Timjoebillybob's picture

reading not too long ago(sorry I don't have a link) about the TSA doing a "dry run" at an Amtrak station or two to check the feasibility of taking over security there. I think it was because of an amendment to a bill that would cut fed funding of Amtrak if they didn't allow firearms in checked baggage like aircraft.

So it looks like I'm going to be driving or taking a bus. Or shanks mare.

Alerta_Alerta's picture

I'm just staying home hiding under my blanket of fear. It's nice and warm, i like it there.

Don't call me, i'm hibernating till 2028.


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Timjoebillybob's picture

at home, I'll just be taking the mode of transportation that allows me to keep as many of my rights as possible.

MikeD's picture

based on the different security measures between Amtrak and the airlines. I took Amtrak a while ago. It was kind of fun with one of those little comparments and a traveling companion, very cozy, as long as you don't mind arriving many hours after your scheduled time. But it was amazing to me that there was absolutely no security at all. I could have had a revolver in a shoulder holster under my coat and no one would have known.

Edwin's picture

They were playing around with a remote taser-like device not long ago.

A: "Flight attendant, may I..."

B: "Back to your seat kiddo" zap zap zap ZAP

Subways are easy targets, and inside a tunnel. 7 million ride in Seoul every day. Real messy when things go wrong.


far left loon >.<

Edwin's picture

We got snow here today. It's pretty. We rarely get any snow to speak of, just cold (grey concrete). I miss snow. If you're gonna have winter might as well have lots (and lots) of snow!


far left loon >.<

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Ape-Man's picture

I'll never forget that night the Apollo Astronaut read the "creation of the heavens and earth" thing from the moon. That was a very hopeful moment, that the whole world could begin to work together as a one. With the enlightenment of Christmas combined with the frightening fragile nature of the planet so clearly exposed.

It was also a new acceptance that God may not reside in heaven after all, but that the world and the universe that the world resides in are works worthy of a god nevertheless.


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Can O Whoopass's picture

I never thought God was in "heaven". I believed God WAS the Universe.

MikeD's picture

What a boring piece of misanthropic crap. Stuff like this reinforces a war mentality. War is man's natural state, we are born to all kill each other, and the only way we can be saved is when our Paternalistic super heros blow up a few cities for our own good.

NoBuddy's picture

From RT:
Dangerous radical Bill Ayres interview
http://www.youtube.com/russiatoday#p/u/80/Dwd...

I've heard people talk about Bill Ayres, but never heard from him directly. If you're in the same boat, here's a how do you do.

Rt coverage of Fox-News reaction to Ayres interview.
http://www.youtube.com/russiatoday#p/u/13/rAl...
----
Dennis Kucinich interview
http://www.youtube.com/russiatoday#p/u/29/M8t...

All clips are flash/youtube format.

VegasRage's picture

What most of us knew about radical religious right, looks like someone made a film on it now. These people are trying to make such things happen and Fox News will be all up in supporting this Kool-aid if grows wings. The far liberal left is scary? I think not.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/wai...


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JohnnyBravo's picture

SEE IT.


NOBODY 2012

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